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On November 25 2013 15:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok, I'm just going to throw my idea out there.
In my opinion, the biggest problem of Day 2 was the lack of thread movement in the first 20 hours. This was frustrating for me and for a lot of other active players. It obviously wasn't ideal and I think we need a way to fix that and force people to lurk less; we had to choose between 4-5 lurkers and they had no reason or motivation to delurk. This is bad.

What is my suggestion to counter this? We form a town circle with Me, Aqua, Mocsta, and Bereft/Sciberia (one or possibly both).

These five have been the most active players in the game and I think we can all put our heads together and force the others to de-lurk.

How do we accomplish this? We should all talk for the rest of N2 and the beginning of D3. We should decide on a lynch within the first part of D3 and all pack our votes on that one player. This would force that person to delurk and we can change our vote or not based on their responses.

I think we need to work closer together and form a temporary alliance for at least D3 and hopefully D4 if enough of the players are still around. If we can get 5 people in our circle, we can force scum to kill either two people in the circle (and either force HF to protect someone in the circle or out him as scum with a fake claim) or we can have 4 people in our circle and bully one other player into voting with us (if HF is town and gets shot).

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Let me know if this is a good idea or if I'm just dumb.

On November 25 2013 15:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
how bout we not talk about town reads and town circles at night

On November 25 2013 16:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
Yes I totally get where you are coming from. I just hope you can understant where I'm coming from. I have a feeling that rayn would've gotten lynched no matter what I, you, or lots of other people could have done. He wanted to be lynched. I realized this after reading his filter after he flipped. During the hours leading up to lynch I stayed in the thread the entire time, begging him to help me see if he's town if he's indeed town. He refused to take me up on my offer until right at the very end, because he wanted to be lynched. That made me feel like my time's been wasted, when townies are trying to get lynched. Then, two people that I thought were scummy during D1 stopped playing. I changed my mind about rean during the night but those two (rean and jampi) were who I planned on interrogating next. That didn't happen because they left. So I was forced to look outside of who I'd planned on looking at, I spent a lot of time looking at aqua and bereft and finally decided they were town. Ok... I'm unable to talk to my scumreads from D1 and the people that rayn suggest looking at, I look at and they end up looking townie. The very next day I was ready to start tryharding, I open the thread up and see you doing exactly what rayn did which is literally claim that you're going to be uncooperative, and this pissed me off because I had a very strong town read on you and I immediately though, "oh no, it's gonna be D1 all over again and we're gonna mislynch Cora." I really wanted to rage at you but I decided that anything I would have written would have only made the situation worse.

What do you think about jampi's play? I want to hear aqua talk about this as well.

Alakaslam I want to know your read on chezinu since you talked to him a bit during D2.

On November 25 2013 16:14 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Thrawn:
First of all, you've seen what happens when my opinion isn't taken seriously:

Rayn flipped town when he was obviously town
JJD flipped town when Onegu was the better lynch

Why do you think I'm going to claim that no one listens to me? If people had thought about my opinion for two seconds, Rayn might still be around (that is debatable, I'll admit) and Onegu would be lynched and he would probably be more likely to roll scum. This happens in a lot of my games and forces reactions after seeing yet another VT flip due to the town not listening and not reading my arguments (at least without me pushing them).

Second of all, you took the post from me and didn't add any context. I wrote it after I had received the 20th post this game that was formatted exactly like this:





Before you go on and simply call me a bully, you need to look at others and you need to understand how bullies are made. Bullies aren't made because they think they are better than everyone else, they are made because they are being bullied by someone else, and they feel like they need to pick on others.

Well here is the cycle. I get picked on for no reason and for no purpose to the thread other than talking about how scummy I am with absolutely no intention to vote for me. Why does anyone do this? It makes no sense to make these sort of comments without pushing any agenda. It serves one purpose: to irritate and annoy me and throw me off of my game. You (and many others both in this game and on this forum) need to understand that bullying is a cycle, and is rarely a straight line.

Back to game matters. I never told you to be a town leader and I never said I was a town leader during D2. I was only town leader due to being the only one active for the entire cycle. I called on you to be more active and while you did step up your game a little bit, it's not enough to help in the scum hunt. I voted for you not just to pick on you, I voted to get you in the thread. My vote for you could've been on JJD or Bereft or Aqua. It was just random choice that I threw it on you (I'd also like to point out that you randomly tried to start a lynch train on me D1, or have you forgotten already?)/

You're not on my train because you aren't active enough. You're doing better than D1 (which is why I don't want you lynched D3) but not enough to be considered for my proposed town circle.

Do you understand how frustrated me/Moc/Aqua are about the lack of activity this game? It allows at least 5 people to lurk without fear. There aren't 5 scum in the game. It's just detrimental to have this much lurking in a game, and it's hurting us in the long run.

Sorry for the long train of thought but that's what I want to say.

On November 25 2013 16:37 thrawn2112 wrote:


Never mind that. What's your read on him?

On November 25 2013 16:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
A(la)ka "Slam"

I take it you've already read rean's filter? Did reading that filter give you any ideas about who might be mafia?

On November 25 2013 17:23 thrawn2112 wrote:


Chezinu's roleplaying has a purpose, it allows him to hide behind what everyone writes off as "trolling" so he can read people, and communicate his reads to his town reads without the mafia team being aware of his motives. I am not familiar with his scumplay but I'd assume that when he roleplays as mafia, he's hiding behind it, trying to make it look like there is no difference between town and scum chezinu. I remember playing scum vs town chezinu and it was terrifying, because I couldn't actually tell what responses I should give him because he hid his real questions so well. I don't think he's committed to his roleplaying as a means to catch scum. I could understand his points about scib but they are overly simplistic and some of the points are misrepresentations of what scib said (scib never called rean town in that post, only implied that rayn thought rean was town) That was what I meant when I said "not enough brown."



style before victory



This is taken from his House of Chezinu guide. What is the style before victory section mainly about? Winning as scum.

dragon and sun

I know I may have shown my hand in regards to my question about the "dragon" and "sun." The dragon and sun are obviously meant to be certain people in the game, that's the explanation that makes the most sense. When Chez roleplays everything he says is a metaphor for something in the game. Why a townie think that winning the game with certain people still in it is worth more than a victory without them? They wouldn't, because they don't know alignments. A scum player would certainly be able to derive satisfaction from winning a game and not killing off certain players whom he deemed a threat to his survival.

What I'm getting at is in that post Chezinu was literally scumclaiming... style before victory, no?

/tinfoil

On November 25 2013 18:09 Mocsta wrote:
Slam.

How would you feel if you were my strongest town read?

On November 25 2013 18:29 Mocsta wrote:

Y surprised?

On November 26 2013 04:44 Onegu wrote:
Rean was replaced by alakaslam right?

On November 26 2013 05:23 Onegu wrote:
@Slam did you read my mocsta case?

On November 25 2013 20:03 Chezinu wrote:

The third triangle, which is totally unique?


Good Morning everyone!! or rather is it night...

On November 25 2013 20:31 Mocsta wrote:

So Unizehc is statign he is scum with Sciberbia.

& Sciberbia is telling him what to do in the scum QT.

Awesome.

On November 26 2013 05:43 Onegu wrote:



Yes I know he had a case on me Ill post my response and my case on mocsta, its long and long winded just so you know.

On November 26 2013 05:42 cDgCorazon wrote:

Because you fail at BBCode

On November 26 2013 09:21 Mocsta wrote:

^^
Lol

/dunked


I wish i asked why you liked it before I posted my response. Cos this post is bad.

On November 26 2013 09:21 Mocsta wrote:

^^
Lol

/dunked


I wish i asked why you liked it before I posted my response. Cos this post is bad.