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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:26 GMT
#881
Other than that it doesn't look like they were trying to frame anybody so I don't think we have to worry about that. Maybe trying to frame dynarri OR try to stop jonny from pushing dynarri. But obviously dynarri is a hot topic atm so everyone is talking about him, so it probably has nothing to do with that.
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#882
Yeah you're right. I wish we had another vig/cop shot so we could take out dynarri for lurking. I loath to waste another day/lynch on a lurker.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:37 GMT
#883
On January 09 2014 08:03 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa


Well we can't rule out 0Ts. Just cause we have VTs flip doesn't mean that. But ruling out 6T and 7T yeah


I am terribly sorry. Correction:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather


Which from that, we now 100% know that there were 3 scum. So it's 8 to 2 atm haha. We have 2 whole mislynches now until we get to MYLO.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#884
Just a note: cop doesn't have a shot...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#885
On January 09 2014 09:37 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 08:03 chinstrap wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa


Well we can't rule out 0Ts. Just cause we have VTs flip doesn't mean that. But ruling out 6T and 7T yeah


I am terribly sorry. Correction:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather


Which from that, we now 100% know that there were 3 scum. So it's 8 to 2 atm haha. We have 2 whole mislynches now until we get to MYLO.


Eish this also means there MUST be a mafia roleblocker or there is 100% a serial killer so the above mislynch scenarios would be false. Who got roleblocked???????? Speak up! You get the message whether you have a role or not so do not worry about outing that you have a role.
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 00:50 GMT
#886
oh right, haha my bad. just re-read the roles part. sorry! also, what is MYLO? google isn't helping
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BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 00:51 GMT
#887
found it: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Mislynch_and_Lose
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Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
January 09 2014 02:02 GMT
#888
In Derrida's first post, he give a list assigning colors to everyone who has been active up to the point except Asuna and dnyarri.

Then Asuna points this out
On January 07 2014 03:45 Asuna wrote:

And finally... I'm not on Derrida's list D:


and Derrida comes back with
On January 07 2014 06:51 Derrida wrote:
@Asuna, I missed you out in my list. What do you think about me?


This is an awkward response, and it seems like Derrida really didn't want to give a read on Asuna. So right now my read is Asuna + dnyarri for scum, and I would be happy to lynch either one, with my preference begin a dnyarri lynch.

Assuming Asuna+dnyarri+Derrida scum, I want to look at dnyarri's one big post:

On January 07 2014 05:01 dnyarri wrote:
Asuna is somewhat suspicious to me, but not on top of my list. Asuna's reasoning for accusing JonnyLaw seem pretty weak, like Day_Walker said and Asuna doesn't elaborate on that which seems like Asuna doesn't want to say anything that could be used against themselves.

Derridan is suspicious to me because Derridan gives RED for sidesprang while giving Onlyboywonder ORANGE even though both have been very quiet. Also I don't understand why Derridan rates Day_Walker's list so high.


Under my hypothesis, this shows dnyarri willing to name the other two scum as suspicious. But dnyarri also says

On January 07 2014 05:01 dnyarri wrote:
sidesprang is so quiet that I barely noticed them. Wouldn't mind lynching sidesprang but I'm not convinced sidesprang is scum. After all, I'm pretty quiet too.

Onlywonderboy hasn't said anything for long time so I'm ready to lynch them but let's see if they become more active before night. First onlywonderboy defends Balla24, which I find moderately suspicious. Onlywonderboy hasn't said anything meaningful


so the two people he wouldn't mind lynching and the two people he actually did vote for are not scum.

I think dnyarri's behavior is consistent with the Asuna+dnyarri+Derrida theory, but it's not a home run. Thoughts?

Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
January 09 2014 02:04 GMT
#889
@Derrida
On January 09 2014 07:08 Derrida wrote:
Awww, good bye all, I did enjoy my first game, I wish it lasted longer. Was an awesome learning experience for me, have fun! Thank you LoneMeow for hosting


Hopefully see you next newbie game?
Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
January 09 2014 02:08 GMT
#890
@Jonny

On January 09 2014 02:32 Day_Walker wrote:
@Jonny
I want to hear more about this post:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 06:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Ugh, just realized dnyarri was the first vote on dragoon.

Fuck, sorry I got here so late. We done screwed up.

##unvote
##vote: dnyarri

You seem to be the only person besides me who thought that dnyarri's vote was important, and I'm curious why.


T_T why you got to leave my burning questions forever unanswered? RIP bro T_T
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 02:14 GMT
#891
Why would Asuna point out that Derrida's list was missing her if she was scum with him? To gain town cred for the offchance that Derrida flips?
Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
January 09 2014 02:18 GMT
#892
On January 09 2014 11:14 Balla24 wrote:
Why would Asuna point out that Derrida's list was missing her if she was scum with him? To gain town cred for the offchance that Derrida flips?

Mmm good point. Perhaps it felt too obvious for her to ignore?
probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 09 2014 02:57 GMT
#893
Finally back, catchup time for me.
Tracking NA/EU/KR GM bonus pools: http://gm.probuling.com
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 02:59 GMT
#894
Convenient time to return.

@Day_Walker that posts makes sense to me, but where do we stand on Asuna if dnyarri flips green?
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probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 09 2014 03:10 GMT
#895
On January 09 2014 11:14 Balla24 wrote:
Why would Asuna point out that Derrida's list was missing her if she was scum with him? To gain town cred for the offchance that Derrida flips?

That's reading too much into it haha. I just noticed my name was missing so I was curious o.o

And oh, Jonny was town... well that's awkward.

On January 09 2014 07:53 chinstrap wrote:
Also please note that these are the only remaining possible setups:

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Due to the presence of (confirmed) 1xVT, 1xIC, and 1xballa

I got roleblocked last night as well, so unless it was a townie doing it that (which I doubt it...) that takes out the first setup.
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BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 03:12 GMT
#896
In other words does Asuna look scummy independent of dnyarri and derridas posts?
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 03:15 GMT
#897
BigDad I think you can come up with your own analysis on that, what do YOU think?
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 03:32 GMT
#898
@balla Currently asking Day_Walker to further back the reasoning on his accusation.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 09 2014 03:42 GMT
#899
On January 09 2014 12:32 BigDad wrote:
@balla Currently asking Day_Walker to further back the reasoning on his accusation.


And I'm saying it's pretty clear from his post what he thinks. The whole accusation is founded on the relationship between them and derrida. So it's a weird question...
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 09 2014 03:52 GMT
#900
I think you've missed what I'm asking Balla24. Let me put it in context, day one I was suspicious of Day_Walker however his posts on lurkers and dnyarri swayed me a little to his side a little more. Since then this is one of the more solid accusations I've read, and it comes from a player who I've had previous doubt for. I don't want to fall into a lull. This accusation is essentially an elaboration on his initial theory, which is good. Yet I'm cautious of another mislynch. Essentially I just want to hear some more from Day_Walker before signing up for this particular theory.

Tbh Personally I haven't had an in depth look at Asunas feed in a while, mainly been looking at Derrida, dnyarri and jonny.
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