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chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:04 GMT
#627
I think you barly made a case
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:10 GMT
#628
My whole though process around this is based upon the fact that DW could only possibly be making these conclusions if he was POSITIVE of theDragoons alignment (either scum or town it doesnt matter). He claims to come to this while having no real position on theDragoon which just makes little to no sense.

The only way he has this information is if he is mafia. Hence, he is mafia.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:26 GMT
#630
These conclusions are that dnyarri is a better lynch target for what is a lot of nothing analysis and lurking, compared to the scummiest looking guy in the thread till now.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:27 GMT
#632
You full on ignore a fucking martyr but a lurking = lynch
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:34 GMT
#636
Your ideas basically don't matter. Your motives do.

You're vote is not on scum #1. It is on lurker #1 (easy target) in a scenario where it is easy to post lurker hunting rubbish to appear pro town, while hunting lurkers in this scenario is pro mafia agenda.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:35 GMT
#637
Scummiest looking guy in thread was ref theDragoon
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 13:36 GMT
#638
and your vote says lurker = lynch I don't need to do that for you
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 14:21 GMT
#643
On January 07 2014 23:12 suki wrote:
Chinstrap I disagree with you that people who are defending theDragoon at this point are more likely to be innocent, because it could also be a mafia team going 'oh shit, this is getting serious'. The action of switching shouldn't be the issue, but rather the motivations of switching.


Reread this:

On January 07 2014 21:44 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 21:38 sidesprang wrote:
Only way that post makes sense if Day_Walker is mafia is if thedragoon is mafia. With 9 votes on a player, why would you try to change the vote in any way if you were mafia, unless the person with the 9 votes were your mafia buddy.

Atleast that is what pops to my head first when trying to see it from a mafia perspective.


Bandwaggoning is the obvious mafia play now. The vote is incred 1 sided, voting for theDragoon doesn't buy towncred now, defending him actually kind of does because you are sticking your head out for no good reason.

The way DW has gone about it though is HIGHLY suspicious, he doesn't target people for any real reason. he just makes a epic long post that says nothing but I want to lunch lurkers cause they lurk even though I dont have a town read on theDragoon.

It is bad free towncred grab.


I'm saying not saying the act of defending = innocence or guilt. I am saying that defending is a way to buy towncred at this point because it is inherently going against the tide (and the innocent child thanks to the timing of the 2 posts i have issue with)

My problem is with the way DW goes about it and how he draws his conclusions. The whole lurker issue is counterproductive and pro mafia as I stated multiple pages ago.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 14:26 GMT
#644
Put it this way.

If i were mafia 2 pages ago I would have been defending theDragoon regardless of his aligment. That in itself isn't a mafia play, it could also be a true town play. That isn't my point that is the circumstance.

My problem is the massive post that, I repeat, makes little in the way of conclusions apart from these are lurkers and I want to lynch one of them because this one is 'the scummiest' by some fluff analysis.

The whole thing is shouting mafia at me in the face with a loudspeaker
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 14:33 GMT
#645
This is going to be a hilariously fun deadline
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 14:45 GMT
#647
Untill DW can propose an elegant reasoning why there is a case making someone look scummier the theDragoon without using the word lurker I will not be moving my vote.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#648
I would also very much like to hear said lurkers opinions and would like any blues (and OWB the SK) to shoot them tonight.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 20:58 GMT
#687
On January 08 2014 05:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On January 08 2014 01:02 TheChyz wrote:
Everybody has to start to make up their mind. IMO Dragoon himself has not cleared his name, the person that has done that for him is DW. His so called defense after the martyr to me felt like garbage and he has done almost nothing to help scumhunt. The current vote on dnyarri IS in fact useless because apart from the votes onto him, there is no information to be gained whatsoever. However Dragoon has played a terrible game and has done nothing productive to the town, infact all he has done is cause confusion (as well as DW), which in this case is worse than dnyarri. His allignment will also say SO much more than dnyarri's will

From the beginning of the game Dragoon and DW have been defending themselves and it has been very suspicious. Personally I just thing DW knows too much and my vote would be on him because regardless if for some reason Dragoon ends up being town, DW will use the "i told you card". He seems very adamant on dnyarri, but it seems to me like he is just hoping that since I voted for him I would be able to help lead the bandwagon on the lurker or somebody else will. To me I find that DW has also barely helped town scum hunt in the fact that he just tries to attack everybody in the game but only a little bit, never with a vote, and has been defensive about Dragoon from the start. Too much defending Dragoon and not enough scum hunting.

##Vote: Day_Walker

I agree with a lot of what was brought up here. The more and more I think about it the more I start to doubt the Day_Walker/Dragoon pair. This mostly has to do with how things have played out since Dragoon got a large portion of the votes. I agree that Day_Walker has put forth way more effort into defending Dragoon after his doom seemed inevitable and decided to rally his cause around a lurker that it would be hard to gather support for. If Dragoon flips town DW looks clear, but he seems to have gone out of his way to make it actually look this way. If they were both scum it's unlikely he would be defending him so vehemently.


This is basically the entire rationale around my current vote and my 2 page rant. If Dragoon flips town I would bet bandwagon DW like a motherfucker.

However I believe that scum DW could easily do this regardless of theDragoons alignment. If tD flips scum it would appear to be almost suicidal for scum t try and rescue him now and hence only a townie could be defending him (because a townie doesnt think hes scum, where scum do and know he is dead anyway).
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 20:59 GMT
#688
Saying all that, my current vote was more about gathering information.

##Unvote
##Vote: theDragoon

Dragoon is by far the best lynch for town
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:00 GMT
#689
Its a good job I'm IC, my filter is by far the scummiest in game
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:11 GMT
#691
I always thought the scum pair stuff was pure circular thinking fluff and was actually suspicious of the people who proposed it (and still am to some degree).

However the discussion resulting from it quite usefully led us to where we are now. Your 2 cases aren't really cases. Case 1 is a statement, case 2 is a scenario both revolve around the information leading from the lynch.

I don't care about the information leading from the lynch really. You were my top scum read, nothing has changed my mind about that really, so I think we should lynch you.




chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:13 GMT
#692
And yes I 100% DO THINK that DW would post as he has if you were mafia or town. I have said that like 6 times
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:14 GMT
#693
Because of this:

[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 23:21 chinstrap wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 23:12 suki wrote:
Chinstrap I disagree with you that people who are defending theDragoon at this point are more likely to be innocent, because it could also be a mafia team going 'oh shit, this is getting serious'. The action of switching shouldn't be the issue, but rather the motivations of switching.
[/QUOTE]

Reread this:

[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 21:44 chinstrap wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 07 2014 21:38 sidesprang wrote:
Only way that post makes sense if Day_Walker is mafia is if thedragoon is mafia. With 9 votes on a player, why would you try to change the vote in any way if you were mafia, unless the person with the 9 votes were your mafia buddy.

Atleast that is what pops to my head first when trying to see it from a mafia perspective.[/QUOTE]

Bandwaggoning is the obvious mafia play now. The vote is incred 1 sided, voting for theDragoon doesn't buy towncred now, defending him actually kind of does because you are sticking your head out for no good reason.

The way DW has gone about it though is HIGHLY suspicious, he doesn't target people for any real reason. he just makes a epic long post that says nothing but I want to lunch lurkers cause they lurk even though I dont have a town read on theDragoon.

It is bad free towncred grab.[/QUOTE]
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:15 GMT
#695
EBWOP:

Because of this:

On January 07 2014 23:21 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 23:12 suki wrote:
Chinstrap I disagree with you that people who are defending theDragoon at this point are more likely to be innocent, because it could also be a mafia team going 'oh shit, this is getting serious'. The action of switching shouldn't be the issue, but rather the motivations of switching.


Reread this:

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 21:44 chinstrap wrote:
On January 07 2014 21:38 sidesprang wrote:
Only way that post makes sense if Day_Walker is mafia is if thedragoon is mafia. With 9 votes on a player, why would you try to change the vote in any way if you were mafia, unless the person with the 9 votes were your mafia buddy.

Atleast that is what pops to my head first when trying to see it from a mafia perspective.


Bandwaggoning is the obvious mafia play now. The vote is incred 1 sided, voting for theDragoon doesn't buy towncred now, defending him actually kind of does because you are sticking your head out for no good reason.

The way DW has gone about it though is HIGHLY suspicious, he doesn't target people for any real reason. he just makes a epic long post that says nothing but I want to lunch lurkers cause they lurk even though I dont have a town read on theDragoon.

It is bad free towncred grab.


I'm saying not saying the act of defending = innocence or guilt. I am saying that defending is a way to buy towncred at this point because it is inherently going against the tide (and the innocent child thanks to the timing of the 2 posts i have issue with)

My problem is with the way DW goes about it and how he draws his conclusions. The whole lurker issue is counterproductive and pro mafia as I stated multiple pages ago.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 07 2014 21:16 GMT
#696
Balla you are so wrong.

If theDragoon flips town I'm putting my house on scum DW
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