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On November 07 2013 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi if i join the game and vote you for mayor do i get candies? trust me. You don't want the candies. YOU DON'T WANT THE CANDIES! They are evil... | ||
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On November 07 2013 15:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: /in /give candies to koshi /also give candies to grackaroni - and baby seals Scum claiming already? | ||
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On November 14 2013 12:51 Bereft wrote: cute. but what happens when one rolls scum?!?! We will both be scum this game. | ||
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##Vote: Kushm4sta All who oppose him shall be branded an enemy of the state. | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:24 Hopeless1der wrote: Grack I cannot in good conscience support your candidate. I would sooner vote for Yamato's nonexistent platform. Also your Grackapack seems divided atm. Whats up with that? Of course the Pandas shall vote for the Kushm4sta. | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote: yamato77 will have to back me as well. he knows that I hunt for scum. also we should lynch people who claim mafia, 100% pro town tip LIES AND SLANDER. How dare you accuse an innocent GrackaPack of being mafia. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report your malfeasance directly to the Kushm4sta. Only he may decide your fate. | ||
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On November 15 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote: there's actually stuff you could talk about, you know All I see is dick measuring competition so far. | ||
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On November 15 2013 09:25 yamato77 wrote: that's a cheap cop-out you can actually be useful as town as mafia, well, let's just say you're living up to those expectations currently Nah, more fun this way. When I find mafia I'll let you know. | ||
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On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote: What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush. It's the worst accusation I've seen. | ||
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On November 15 2013 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh my mistake, you mentioned a dick-measuring contest earlier too. I assume super won by your estimation? nah screw that. Grackaroni won the dick measuring contest. | ||
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On November 15 2013 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, so why are you asking him to convince you that Storr is scum? Shouldn't you be like, saying Kush should lynch Mocsta or something? My point is that you broke character for that - like maybe Storr IS scum and you panicked. But you know how association cases go. I'd lynch you before Storr because I think you breaking character for that one clarification/whatever is more telling than Storr playing the newb card. I'd like to talk to him about his case? I'm not role playing or something I just post what I want. | ||
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On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote: O really..... Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor. I can dig that, been there done that. I actually acknowledged this in my post. However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town. Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset. Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him. Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity. Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else. It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion. So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern. Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now. I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points. Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card. He added the word for between hunt scum - wat? He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum? | ||
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On November 15 2013 11:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I know but what you've wanted to post up to now has been "LOL ELECT KUSH WHATEVER THE FUCK" and now that Mocsta has brought up StorrZerg, now it's srs bsns. I know you're not role-playing, it's just a shift in mindset. A SHIFTY shift imo. But was it Shifty or Shifty ? | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:01 Mocsta wrote: Damn auto correct some of the above came out wrong. Ohh well. Storrzerg isn't a noob. Anyways. This is pointless. I have identified my grievances with storrzerg and am somewhat surprised that you and oats are trying to cockblock storrzerg from having to respond. I don't like this from either of you. My suggestion is to shut up and let storrzerg respond. You can reassess your reads from there. In the meantime. Grack. You dodged my question. Who do YOU want to lynch, cos all I'm hearing is who you don't. lol the fuck are you talking about. I'm not preventing Storrzerg from responding; All I had originally intended to do was question you about your case before VE started complaining about me playing the game. I agree with Pandain's scum reads. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not complaining I love it! Please continue! ^^ You have yet to see the Grackaroni in action. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Im gonna quote this again. [quote="DonBixlerZavala"]Oats gets the "worst player of the game" award though for essentially claiming scum this last day when he could have instead easily set up a DBZ/Oats dichotomy for the last team by just shutting the hell up. And this was postgame. Grack why arent you catching scum? Actually yeah grack shot to the top of the LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE list. Remember in White flag mafia? yeah totally different,[/QUOTE] It's different this game Oats. JJD in that game was pretty clear lynch bait. Storrzerg this game is more null. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote: grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro. Shhhhh! | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:01 Pandain wrote: Grack who do you think is town Oatsmaster is probably town. yamato is likely too if he continues on the path that he has been going so far. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: RNG is a dumb as fuck way to approach things. Also Storr cant play the noob card because hes not a newb. Hes been playing for ages. A player being mayor or not before does not mean they will make a good choice. Someone who is clearly making solid choices and decisions is who should get it. If storr thinks he can win with the "noob" card we should lynch him purely on the fact hes not new. Given that he wants to add RNG to the list as well then it seems to me like we have a good solid day 1 removal unless he straightens himself out Storrzerg is still playing in newbies games, and quite frankly his handling of the cop claim with me last game in Hogwarts was rather silly. I <3 RNG. Liking RNG doesn't make somebody scum. I actually think scum should be more afraid of RNG. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:55 OOHCHILD wrote: I think I'm the worst possible pick for mayor given that I'm never ever nked. Nonsense! The mafia shall fear the Kushm4sta. This is history in the making. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I disagree completely. RNG is stupid as fuck. We aren't playing a lottery we are playing a game of mafia. Why would I be random when I can read what people say / what they ignore and base my reads/votes accordingly? RNG when you have information is dumb and clearly not in the benefit of the town. Factor in we have mayor elections and you are advocating giving someone a role that is powerful for no good reason aside from you like rng is dumb as fuck. Also what? how is he still in newbie games. You, my friend, shall have to talk to the hand. The Blazinghand that is when he inevitably pushes a mayoral random lynch and I support him in his endeavors. | ||
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On November 15 2013 14:09 Alakaslam wrote: This was like "we need to find the scum and remove them. With scum remover. New scum remover available for three easy installments of $19.95 a month." What does the epic one have to do with Storrzerg? he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price? | ||
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On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote: Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked. The games you quoted are both over a year old; Play styles can change a lot over time. His recent play in Hogwarts also did not match either of the town games you listed as meta, yet he was town in that game. | ||
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On November 15 2013 14:47 Holyflare wrote: I disagree with you: here is his filter for hogwarts: click me! while yes, there are singular lines, there is also hefty content at parts just like the town games I linked, albeit this game is still early so it's justifiable for the near future, I want to hear more from him because right now I think it falls more in line with his scum game (even if it is old) Either way he is not around to defend himself and so I'll move elsewhere for now. Mattchew did nothing at the start of that game. And I'm right that you should be looking at current games. Of course Mattchew is going to start off games more try hard in older games than in recent games when he has played more games . I think that's true for most players. | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:00 Holyflare wrote: Either way, he isn't here and I've linked all that needs to be linked. What do you think of rayn so far. I know you had some back and forths last game. Has your read on him improved because of hogwarts or not? After the last few games it's probably best that I stay away from making early reads on either Rayn or Koshi. Hogwarts was a disaster. | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:06 VayneAuthority wrote: bad assumption to make considering my first game on this site I rolled scum and played a game with my scumteam in IRC to see how shitty I could make my posts until the clues ( this was back in TL mafia 2 where there were clues in the posts) gave away my ridiculously easy name to make clues for lol hahahaha. So you've always done nothing? | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:09 Pandain wrote: Grack to be frank I don't know why you seem so defensive; by defensive I mean you're hesitant to give town reads or commit to scum reads. Your posting sometimes seems forced to me as well. Is something wrong? I don't have any strong scum reads. Maybe Mocsta is scum. | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:33 Mocsta wrote: Stop talking smack All I have seen from you are free town reads and zero accountability on scum reads. If you want to insinuate I'm scum, man up and build a case. Otherwise you are quickly rising to be my prime lynch candidate for mayor. what free town reads am I giving? | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote: Disagree. Everything you are doing is cockblocks. And then hide behind pandain as the source of your scum reads. You don't even comment if pandain is a strong town read for you to be able to share so strongly those reads. So yes, I disagree vehemently I don't see how any of that equates to always giving out free town reads but w/e. | ||
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On November 15 2013 15:52 Mocsta wrote: Unless you are fixated on the descriptor "always" it should be quite clear. Why cockblocks someone in the first place. It's either be wise you are throwing caution or disagree. You chose not to throw caution, so clearly must disagree. Everytime you cockblocks, it's to try and crush someone's case/points on somebody. So clearly you disagree with the case. If you had a null read on those people you would let them defend themselves. Instead you are white knifhting for them. So either you are town with a town read on particulars Or scum that is too scared to push anyone. So yes. I disagree vehemently. You are giving out too many free town reads and further I find your posting forced. At least in Hogwarts your uselessness could be hidden behind a carefree attitude. I can disagree with a case without having a town read on somebody. Your case was bad. I'm not as convinced it makes you scum as I was with oats in White Flag, but If storrzerg would like to comment on why he is hunting for scum rather than hunting scum then he is free to do so. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:01 Grackaroni wrote: I troll and say nothing. BC says nothing but tries to fluff up his posts to make it appear like he is contributing more than he is. Which is scummer? The correct answer is: BloodyC0bbler! ##Vote: Yamato | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded. Your hatred of trolls is irrelevant. If your scum hunting is just long detailed out cases for people being trolls (which is essentially a policy lynch, not a scum lynch than you need to go. You want to look useful but you arent | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ive said quite a bit actually. Thanks for making me read from 95% to a full 100% You're welcome. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I also pointed out points that make you scum. Perhaps you should read it more. I have clear points against you that are more than "he trolled" You also I have been an abnormally active troll. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:20 Onegu wrote: I agree but defending for being a noob is almost the same damn thing. I don't think he's town for being a noob but it makes Mocstas points very weak. I wanted to question Mocsta and then VE got in my face and inplied i was defending Storrzerg for questioning Mocsta. That is why ultimately all of this Grack hate has ensued. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:28 Mig wrote: The first half of BC's case against you Grack is terrible and overwritten but he is accurate in saying you have been worthless this game. In white flag you figured out pandain was town very quickly and zerod in on Oats in no time. This game you have provided nothing. A couple questions, 1) besides bc who do you think is scum, and is bc your strongest scum read? 2) what do you think of pandain this game? BC lengthy uselessness, especially in his attack on me makes him a likely scummer. He cares a lot about appearances. Hopeless/Sharrant have both blended in nicely. They need to be watched out for. I still think Mocsta's case could be scum motivated; it's very opportunistic to grab on to a newb playing the noob card as scum behavior. That's just what new players do. I'm not sure on Pandain but I agree with what he's saying so he's fine for now. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: artanis do me a favour read this for me http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&user=Grackaroni¤tpage=3 tell me how that game differs from this one. Hint, grack was town in that one Friendly advice. It's best to include games from both alignments when trying to make a meta case  | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I think you are red here, so compare this game to that game? Surprisingly they are very different. That is the "meta" case. If I was having issues reading you I would deff have a list of games from both sides to compare to but I think I tagged you properly My play this game is also very different from Golden Sun in which I was scum. Different means nothing. | ||
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On November 16 2013 02:53 Mig wrote: Mocsta- the hunt scum/for scum is possibly the dumbest argument I have ever read for why someone is scum and really seemed like he was stretching facts to make a case. I tried to discuss this. Quite frankly I think VE was the one that was actually cock blocking me not the other way around as he would imply. But I'll try to avoid connections for now. | ||
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On November 16 2013 03:11 Pandain wrote: I'm wondering if I should run for mayor if I can confirm myself as town mmmm would you kill BC? | ||
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On November 16 2013 03:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: so aside from me as a scum read, what are your reads yo? Since being called out you still haven't done anything really but defend yourself and attempt to discredit me nah I did. And I shall consider my attempt successful. Another step toward my inevitable mafia victory. | ||
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On November 16 2013 03:33 Holyflare wrote: You say you are ignoring an unflipped player for the entirety of day 1 = I think he is town. If you then later post that you can't /won't get a read on him till at least day 2 then that is correcting yourself in my eyes. Now that i see the ignoring was based on the fact you can't read him the whole meaning of your posts has changed. It isn't the hardest concept to get your mind around. Other people have also clearly commented on grack than just BC yet you're all over BC for sharing your sentiment. I also pointed out several of his posts earlier but that for some reason has no weight whatsoever on your theory. Does this now change your read on grack? In other news I think artanis? said that hopeless' lack of posting couldn't be so alignment indicative but @artanis,what do you think of what i said earlier about his play in hogwarts/other town games? It is remarkably different even for such a low amount and it's effectively contentless. I think there's a good chance of hitting scum if we lynch him. Will reply to things as best i can till i get back to my pc It's because of the style he used to call me scum along with him the fact that he is normally pretty good. He wrote up an entire page worth of notes showing that I'm useless for his scum read. It's fluffy. | ||
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On November 17 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's not. And you are probably scum. nah you're right. That HF thing you were yelling about was waaaaaay better. | ||
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What did you disagree with from Artanis' Moctsa case. Would you consider voting the man with the blazing hands? | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta does dumb cases all the time as town. That does not make him scum. His first case on Storrzerg was weak as shit. I say it's flimsy and then he moves on to me. He immediately eats the Spaghetti just because he thinks his anti-VE mayor view point will be perceived as unpopular. He is scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:32 Pandain wrote: Grack do you think I'm town I'm engaging Grackapack Do you think Mocsta is scum? | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm still kinda puzzled about people saying someone believed BH's claim. I don't see anyone believing his claim. I believe it. | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED HIS CLAIM I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU!!?!?!? You weren't considering the Blazinghands for mayor? | ||
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On November 17 2013 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Blazinghand who would you execute if you were mayor? On November 17 2013 04:10 Grackaroni wrote: 2 Questions for the Pelican What did you disagree with from Artanis' Moctsa case. Would you consider voting the man with the blazing hands? Rayn you are pretty obviously lying about not believing BH's claim considering you had the exact same thought process as me. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote: Grack vote supersoft with me Isn't he killing Mig? | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:04 Pandain wrote: Yes Mig is suspicious. Note in our last game he was asking questions as well but he was also targeting people and posting opinions. This is just questions. So it's his playstyle without good intentions of that playstyle=scum replicating past playstyle. I don't like how he's not making strong opinions like he did in the past game where he went after people and helped along with me and you lead town to victory. Also he shared his notes Mig's notes also insulted like several people, including Supersoft, and would be pretty dumb to post as mafia. He's also on board with a Mocsta lynch and Mocsta is like the scummiest in thread. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is there no people any more who can fucking think with their brain. Onegu come tell people what my thought process was. You've done pretty good regarding it this game earlier. Brain is overrated. I think with my sock like the Blazinghand. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:14 Pandain wrote: I think if BH is scum, he's scum. Vayne likely too. That's my gut not official. I think that you suddenly being only defensive and caught on this is interesting. What happened to you campaigning for mayor, or you wanting holyflare lynched. Don't think mayor canidates are doing that rayn. Rayn why are you not hunting for scum and instead happy to defend yourself about a troll bh Explain your thought process. Rayn is scum because he instantly believed BH's claim because he knows BH is town. I believe BH's claim and it is because I am on a scum team with BH. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:39 supersoft wrote: okayokay, enough, how about we start to force players to analyse each other: Grack a little comment on the following players would really help: coagulation, Hopeless1der, Storr, hiro protagonist, Risen, OOHCHILD, pandain, mig just a few sentences and a ranking on the following skala: ++ = town + = slightly town 0 - = suspicious -- = scum okay? you got one hour. coag - null Hiro- null Hopeless - leaning scum Risen- Craaaaaazy OOHCHILD- Do not ever lynch in any game ever. Pandain - Fuck knows. His point on Rayn is actually decent. Mig- Probably town Storrzerg - Forgot about this guy. He could be scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:46 supersoft wrote: OOCHILD refuses to vote for me, because he doesnt want to vote for the underdog. What do you think of this. Sounds like the Kushm4sta. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:53 Onegu wrote: Ok rayn didnt <3 BH because he believed the claim. He <3 because BH wins the Game of Trolls. In the Game of Trolls you win or youre lynched. I don't care about Rayn's <3. He seemed interested in making BH mayor, which was also one of my thoughts because BH had a good bread crumb this time. However, Rayn denies ever believing the claim. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:30 Koshi wrote: Maybe you could point out who the scum one instead of pointing out that we are arguing. People have noticed that. It's not that you are arguing; I could totally see you two bussing one another as scum. It's the fact that you omgused so quickly after Rayn attacked you. There's no way you knew that Rayn would accuse you. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:36 Koshi wrote: So much dumb... 1) rayn and I would never buss each other. 2) how did I "omgused". I still dont know.what that term exactly means tbh. Oh my god you suck! (vote someone because they are voting you.) From my recollection you were lightly considering Rayn as scum and then as soon as he called you scum you became much more confident. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is really good Koshi! Soon you will see Grackaroni is in fact scum. :p Nah I'm not scum. Sometimes I just do whatever the fuck I feel like. If you really think I would play scum like this then you should prepare to be disappointed. | ||
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On November 17 2013 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well you are not my top choises for scum but you should start doing something that akes sense if you are town Grack. Fair enough. | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:00 Pandain wrote: Grack please trust me SS is town and a really good analyzer. If you are town he will realize it and you probably won't get lynched anyway I don't care about that. I'm pretty sure I am on Yamato's lynch list and VE's lynch list as well lol. Overall I think SS has bad lynch targets. I can't say I remember who yamato is killing though. Is it still BC? | ||
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On November 17 2013 02:31 Pandain wrote: Yamato if you're mayor I think you should lynch hopeless or BH. I think Storr is good becasue he is playing pretty weird and he is playing the newb card so much when he really shouldn't and it's becoming really disconcerting especially since he also ran for mayor. What was it that made you change your mind on Storrzerg? Before you thought him playing the newbie card was indicative of scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:04 Pandain wrote: Yes Mig is suspicious. Note in our last game he was asking questions as well but he was also targeting people and posting opinions. This is just questions. So it's his playstyle without good intentions of that playstyle=scum replicating past playstyle. I don't like how he's not making strong opinions like he did in the past game where he went after people and helped along with me and you lead town to victory. Also he shared his notes I don't see much of a difference at all between Mig from White Flag and Mig in this game. | ||
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On November 17 2013 05:08 Pandain wrote: Mocsta is making awful cases but he does that all the time as town. In fact the effort he's putting into his dumb cases (hunt for vs hunt scum) really make me think he's town. Are you expecting good analysis out of him? He's putting effort into it. Furthermore even if he is scum, if mig was scum it's very likely that he would at least bus one of his teammates whos unlikely to get lynched aka mocsta. Quite frankly I don't care how much effort Mocsta is putting in to his cases. They are opportunistic and Artanis has shown that. It's also not good that his main contribution came early in the day from twisting Storrzerg's words and since then he has fallen under the radar and started become more sheepish. How do you think a scum Mocsta will play? I'd bet that if I looked into his past scum games he puts effort in as well. | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:23 supersoft wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=Mig yes? I see a significant difference at least in basic activity. average post length, quantity etc. Mig is a very reserved player. He will question people endlessly without giving his own opinion until he is asked. He wasn't more active that game than in this game. | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:36 austinmcc wrote: Right now, VE is the mayor and neither Yamato nor SS is lynching ANYBODY. The question RIGHT NOW comes down to who you want protection on, unless you decide you want SS to have the lynch. If your vote is on Yamato, it's currently giving Yamato a vest over SS. That's the only effect (and pardoner but who cares). The lynch is entirely not up for grabs. wait what? Is VE mayor already? | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:36 supersoft wrote: okay lol so you're the deciding vote or what -_- okay tell me your targets and I consider them. I liked Artanis' points on Mocsta; that is honestly the best case in thread. I honestly haven't been looking too hard into the thread but I think lynching one of Koshi/Rayn could be a good idea. Koshi has been playing scared and Rayn's HF push was bad. I also think he honestly might have slipped with how he handled the BH claim when asking him who he would lynch as mayor. He already said he would lynch Vayne so why ask for clarification all of a sudden if he wasn't reconsidering BH for mayor. (prefer Rayn lynch) If it has to be an inactive, I think it should be hopeless. Looking through Pandain's filter I dislike a lot of what he has said recently. I'm ok with leaving him alive I should be able to get a good grasp of his allignment by day2 | ||
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On November 17 2013 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grack is taking both of our sides in the argument.  He calls me scum for what you have, and he calls you scum for what i did earlier on. This kind of casual accusation doesn't help your case. I think you've both done scummy things but I haven't looked closely enough yet to actually figure out which is scum. | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:00 Koshi wrote: No. It helps him greatly. Show where I am scared. Stating that I played scared.this game is ridiculous. The way you went about attacking SS. The fact that you jumped into Rayn's filter and searched your name to see if he had anything on you as soon as he accused you. There was something else too. | ||
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I want to know whether you think BH would claim at a dumb time as town. I want to know why you have Mocsta as a town read? Is it purely based on his effort in the game? | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:17 Blazinghand wrote: it was Fine time to claim I was probably more likely to be lynched than you lol. | ||
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Did he keep using it after people called him out for it or is there something else I am missing? | ||
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On November 17 2013 11:27 Pandain wrote: The thing about Grack is he's acting genuinely depressed. I'm actually worried about him outside of game. Don't you worry, don't you worry child! I think I've actually laughed more from this game than any other game. Sometimes I just find it more fun to troll. | ||
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On November 17 2013 14:04 Blazinghand wrote: someone Mason ed me Hello Blazinghand. let us continue our discussions within the confides of our mason QT. | ||
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On October 26 2013 08:21 Holyflare wrote: The rayn I played with when scum was a dog with a bone, however, that bone was actually a retard stick and he wouldn't let go of it. He was aggressive on really really minor points and couldn't coherently come up with proper reasoning for scum motives. This rayn is different, he's still a dog with a bone but it's a bone that is made of logic and reasoning. Do you think this is an accurate representation of Rayn's meta? You say he is town now for his persistence. How much do you think that really matters if almost all he does is call you scum for not reading the thread? | ||
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On November 18 2013 05:51 Holyflare wrote: I said I thought he was town but now I cannot tell because of all of this stuff that he is doing, I said that to koshi like a page or two ago. Did you say that in Hogwarts because you were scum or because you believe it? | ||
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On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote: I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better. On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Koshi I don't support your reads. Skanj4b: nha Pandain: nha just isn't playing hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha. Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today. Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why? What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers? | ||
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On November 18 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote: His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say. Nothing else in his filter? that exchange looks absolutely fine to me. | ||
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On November 16 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote: I have no problem with BloodyC0bbler. He will come back with a bang, his opening post demands it. On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote: Told you guys he would come back with a bang. @BC StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts. Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum. @rayn Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy. Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum. | ||
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On November 18 2013 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh and NOW you bring it up? He's happy as town and uses phrases that i find funny. Really, that's how i read Koshi. In this game he is sad and serious. I've clearly just been digging through his filter lol. You just posted recently. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote: rofl I am not sad. Maybe serious. Also Grack: Pretty sure that BC his post came between those 2. I know it came between those posts lol. From the first line you seemed impressed by BC's post, which makes no sense if you disagree with all of his reasoning in it for me and Storrzerg being scum. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:13 Grackaroni wrote: I know it came between those posts lol. From the first line you seemed impressed by BC's post, which makes no sense if you disagree with all of his reasoning in it for me and Storrzerg being scum. I am referring to the first line in your 2nd post. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote: supersoft Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post: Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this? Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all. ... You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2? Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm? I don't like this first attack at all. Koshi implies that SS is scum for shitting up the thread and insulting other players but this is just standard SS play. I don't think even Koshi understands why he is calling SS scum. He decides that SS is not really trying to get elected, and that he is scum because of that, but there is probably more motivation for scum players to want to appear pro-town early and become mayor. On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote: Told you guys he would come back with a bang. @BC StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts. Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum. @rayn Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy. This contradiction is a big deal to me. The first line should imply that he is in favor of BC's post, yet he ends up disagreeing with all of his points. It's inconsistent and I think he is just making up his reads out of thin air. On November 16 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote: I just find it odd that you were such a friendly fellow in Hogwarts who was more in the background helping around. It was only after you died N1 that I found out that you were a vet. This game you entered the thread elbows forward and smacked down VE/Yamato and started the early shitfest between you people. Don't know if it is scummy. But it isn't ideal at all. I mentioned this earlier, I don't like the phrasing in this post. He seems afraid to outright accuse Supersoft, but he still wants to cast suspicion on to him. On November 16 2013 05:01 Koshi wrote: Yeah and in Noir I didn't do jack shit till the end of Day 1 and start yelling you were scum. Well, I did make a case on Mocsta about stuff. Aperture I wasn't too awful in early game. I give you townpoints for thinking about a game in which you were town. On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote: ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter. I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird". Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum. Once again I think Koshi is playing scared. Earlier he said that he might be ok with lynching Rayn, and then as soon as Rayn accused him, he started giving him townie points for absolutely no reason. He also rushes in to Rayn's filter and searches his own name and tries to use that as a point against Rayn. After that exchange insists several times that Rayn has to be scum for having a weak case, which isn't terrible reasoning. I don't like how much he uses the fact the people aren't listening to him to point towards him being scum. That is terrible reasoning. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote: Rayn Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads. Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case. Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily. (PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter) Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him. supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though. Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes. _________ What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't. The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that. Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum. When he writes a case on Rayn his reasoning falls short. -Who cares if people ignore his case. That doesn't make him scum. I also don't see him not caring that people disagree with his case. -He says I am afraid. lol you are afraid. -He thinks Sharrant is scum. But he could do this as town. -He has the same SS read as me. -He says he is good at reading Pandain and that Pandain is scum. he should wait longer. (?) -Town Rayn ignores useless players - (I don't know if this is true and I don't actually remember Rayn spending too much time pushing me.) On November 18 2013 04:01 Koshi wrote: Scummers are Yamato, VA, Storrzerg and yourself. The other 2 are within lurkers. Town Koshi is try hard. Koshi's filter this game is completely devoid of reasoning; he makes up scum reads as he goes along through the thread. He's given no reasoning why VA is scum. He's given no reasoning why Storrzerg is scum. He's given no reasoning why Yamato is scum. He's mentioned all of these people being scum several times throughout his filter before. Koshi isn't town. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:32 Koshi wrote: Grack you are wrong. Ok. Explain your scum reads. | ||
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lol. there is absolutely no better case in this thread than mine. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes Koshi did all of those things but until he explains why he thinks i am scum i can't know if he is scum or not because that's all he has done this game, called me scum. He did explain why you were scum and he had shitty reasons. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well that's better than you have done so far. You call some random people scum for random reasons. I have no idea who your scumreads are besides BH. And his case on Grack is better than yours against him. lol I actually agree with this. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:18 Alakaslam wrote: Kush been spending time in a QT. Was it mason or another? I OMGUS freely. Quit trolling. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:22 Alakaslam wrote: Nay, I am serious. Kush is being nuts how could you have been pushing his mayor? Y u troll? To be fair I troll because the juices begin to flo- I mean, well for reasons. I will explain any speifix trollz you ask me to, will you do the sayme? It's fun lol. I'm pretty sure I actually said I would push for a Kush mayor pre-game; he's hilarious and does things randomly. Also if he is scum it's even better for town because he would have to lynch a scummer because he only knows how to bus lol. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:27 Alakaslam wrote: I agree the amusing is amusing amusement However amusing the amusement is found to be however, I question ye;:; what of The  BlazingHand 's case on you? Can you/ have you answered it?Trolls are actually often town lol. I can understand the case coming from BH because he is incapable of playing seriously as mafia and tries to use gimmicks. (His play in Golden Sun as a scum smurf was to create extremely long lists of notes that ultimately say nothing, and he also claimed that he could only post in like a short window of time after work and before he goes to sleep) Basically my early game play style is something that BH would try to use as scum in order to avoid suspicion. But just because BH can't play scum doesn't mean I am unable to play scum. | ||
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On November 18 2013 10:26 VayneAuthority wrote: mocsta scumslips that I am town here, so if you push me from here I will just think you are dumb unfortunately. LOL I actually agree with this. | ||
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On November 18 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also agree with the Vayne comment. Vayne has to be town too. I'm curious how does this flip effect your HF read? | ||
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BH's case on me is honestly better than any contribution I have seen him make as scum in recent days, but I can't remember a single time where BH has fake claimed as town before. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:17 Oatsmaster wrote: as in knowing its fake, or the claim? Again, claiming as scum who is gonna get lynched is NEVER bad. Or sometimes even making a completely random claim when you are already not going to get lynched! That is even more fun. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey grack, is hopeless scum? I don't think he's reading the thread. After being gone for an entire cycle he added nothing. I'm having a difficult time believing that a scum player could be so monumentally useless when he is under some pressure to be killed. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote: So too bad to be scum. Right. I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.) | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote: No I'm done thinking about BH for the most part. I'm not talking about it except to explain what I think about BH. And I can do that without thinking hard while I would have to read your analysis of Koshi, then read Koshi's filter, then read his meta, and so forth which would take like an hour. It's convenience posting for me until I fall asleep It's not just tonight though, even earlier in the day when I originally wrote a case on Koshi all you were doing was attacking BH for making a dumb claim. | ||
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He wouldn't fully flesh out any real reasoning for his mayor lynch targets being scum. The fact that he ended up lynching Skanjab. I also don't like the way he started accusing me of "breaking character" as soon as I attempted to question Mocsta. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:55 Oatsmaster wrote: But hopeless is bad at playing scum. He is just blending man. He posts insightful and useful stuff as town and doesnt do it as scum. And he is TRYING to post its just not very good. I'll look into him then. I don't think I've seen a scum hopeless before. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:59 Pandain wrote: Oh stop he posted afterwards and it makes sense if you don't want to get lynched and don't have time to fully commit day one as town. This is the last I'll post of this since Grack wants me to stop, though I'm a bit irritated he doesn't see that I'm not even concerned about BH that much anymore I know you aren't concerned about BH but you have spent practically all of the night phase saying BH is scum for his role claim and then spent the last few hours arguing that BH is town because it was a fake claim. You just don't seem willing to actually discuss anything important in the game. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote: BH if you did that as town, I will shit on you every time you say you are a good player. I already do. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah the skanjab lynch was weird and bad. So you dont think the 'breaking character' thing is accurate? Why did you change from messing around to playing properly? No I don't think that's accurate. I trolled my way through most of the dick measuring contest and Mocsta's post was the first thing that actually struck me as scummy. I had wanted to try to question him and he pushed me into defending myself and my trolling. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote: it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw because Grackaronis are always town. | ||
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On November 18 2013 15:57 thrawn2112 wrote: you've had a decently long convo with him (oats) so what do you think now? btw I agree with you about koshi. my read on him right now is completely based off the super strong super townie connection I had with him in WC and i'm eagerly looking forward to getting to talk to him 1 on 1 to follow up that read. you were one of the people I was looking at pre D2 but with the direction mocsta seemed tobe heading I'm not so sure about that read anymore. I do have a question for you.... earlier you said this: can you elaborate on exactly what you were thinking at the time you wrote this? obviously mocsta fits that category but who else? there were lots of people on your case, which of them are scum? you must have had a least a few people in mind I'm get a pretty good vibe off of Oats right now. I haven't reread his filter I've just been chatting so far. Comment meant nothing. It was just because I liked that it was scum pushing my lynch and would like to believe that other people pushing me are also scum. Pandain/BC/VE/BH all fit that category off the top of my head. Should actually be a decent number of scum in there too. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar. ##vote grackaroni lol I'm like the only person doing much of anything and you complain that I make comments like I normally do in order to make people take me less seriously. That's absurd. I say things like that every game I play and you play with me all the time. You are full of shit. I went back into Golden Sun. Your entire claim that game was an S = Survivor, which was taken from a random S + Q within your post. When people asked you what the Q was you went. "Whaaaaat? You think I'm just going to leave a random S in my post? Get real!" This claim was more methodical. You didn't just happen to make that reference in your first line in your first post. You pre-planned the connection for a tracker claim. | ||
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On September 15 2013 04:06 strongandbig wrote: Just checking in. Zealos has done nothing to change my read on him and I wish my last minute vote switch push on him had worked. Also a thought - bh could be SK. Lol. How didnt anyone else comment on this. There are many ways his breadcrumb could lead to serial killer instead of survivor but I like this: "SQ stands for Spending Quotient (google "Starcraft SQ"), which refers to the consistency with which you take regular actions to kill your opponent (macro). A serial killer kills every night, taking regular actions to kill his opponent. I am the serial killer." Or alternatively: "SQ stands for Squirtle, a Starcraft player (google "Starcraft sq", Squirtle is the first autosuggestion). Squirtle is famous for all killing fOu in one of the early GSTLs. I am aiming to all kill town and scum because I am the serial killer." I would actually believe either of those over the explanation given by bh himself. Both because it's wrong (there are more than one role starting with s) and because it does not resemble at all bh's usual breadcrumbs, which are both cleverer and often Starcraft based (see the last time he breadcrumbed SK). | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:18 Blazinghand wrote: Well I hate to say it to you grack but that breadcrumb was by far the shittest bread crumb i've ever claimed to have, including the "squm" crumb. Like ok for real 1) "hey" is not a bread crumb 2) the amount of work it took to make "sock-head" into "cop" (which, by the way, isn't even tracker) was phenomenal. I was just making fun of the pant-head meme. The fact that anyone even believed it for a second is just... well it's something all right. If he is going to lie about his fake claim breadcrumb being added at the start of the game then he is scum. This is how BH normally breadcrumbs and he is very proud of the random connections he makes that form his breadcrumbs. He has never fake claimed before as town. BH lynch is a slam dunk. On November 17 2013 04:29 Blazinghand wrote: MYJ is a transposition of MJY. MJY is the initials of the famous bw player savior, so that night I saved Velinath http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=58#1150 beggar man is from John le Carre's Tinker Tailor soldier Spy. As the rhyme goes, tinker tailor soldier sailor and so on and the "beggar man" is the code name for a guy who did not turn out to be the mole, hence was innocent, so i'm crumbing a green check you clearly don't even understand the level i crumb on On November 17 2013 04:30 Blazinghand wrote: sock head, not pant head. the whole idea is sock head is not something anyone normally says, but reading it doesn't tell you who I am until I explain it (ie, sock head -> soccer head -> football head -> arnold from hey arnold is called a football head, the sentence starts with "hey" -> arnold = cops in tl mafia culture -> i'm the tracker) | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Track results? I guess no one cares, and since BH still hasnt posted them I have to assume he doesn't have them. ##Vote: Blazinghand @Austin if BH ends up claiming your actions correctly, you're the only one that can stop us from mislynching. lol I told you guys this wasn't reading the thread. | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: its how I'd read it yes. I can say as someone whos done some filter diving that mocsta wasn't really heavily picked up as a potential mafia by many people until after the bit between the two and grack was one of the more vocal people about the push. Could I be wrong? yes, but its completely out of place reaction type. If you don't believe my conclusion the information I used is open to anyone else to analyze. He didn't seem to like Artanis either but you are right that Mocsta actually does seem really angry towards me. | ||
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On November 19 2013 01:28 thrawn2112 wrote: lo grack wtf is this? are you agreeing with BC that you're scum? I'm actually kind of curious about why he was so angry towards me. I don't think I did anything mean to him this game. Might just be jealous that I saw through his scum play without even trying. | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:38 Coagulation wrote: im gonna vote VE for mayor he has consistently lynched scum day 1 as town mayor at omgus.net I can back it with links if yall want. On November 19 2013 04:50 Coagulation wrote: ve town mayor meta is play balls to the wall day 1 and then mislynch and putz around feeling sorry for himself rest of game. he could be scum tho just not cause hes doin nuthin now. rofl wat? | ||
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The Kushm4sta had this to say: "wat" More to come at 11. | ||
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On November 19 2013 11:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah so is VE. But this is kinda funny. Watch or tell them to stop? I think we ruined the vibe. | ||
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On November 19 2013 11:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Everything hes said to me screams town. I could be horribly wrong and he flip assassin but I don't see any of the interactions possible as scum tbh. which interactions? | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote: this is what BH's case is talking about... how ironic occasionally serious when he needs to push his agenda but include just enough trolling so that nobody is gonna take him seriously I'll give a tldr of BH's case. Grack let's see.... he trolls a lot and sometimes makes serious posts. Clearly his intention is to get everybody to ignore him and slip under the radar because that is what I would do. It's also hilarious that people are actually taking his posts seriously. By the way, his scum play is like, really good. But he's like a weak link so Mocsta bussing him makes perfect sense. He's way too lovable. KILL GRACK!!!!! | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:52 thrawn2112 wrote: grack your suspicion of BH seems to be heavily dependent on him being suspicious of you. I've been right along BH this whole time, what do you think about me? then you haven't been reading my posts lol. | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grackaroni. Could you do soe analysis on other people than BH? Yes his case on you is shit and he is getting lynched for it but if he somehow flips town you look absolutely terrible just because you have refused to do anything at all on D2. If BH wasn't scum I'd still look fine. totally irrelevant because he already claimed scum. I've already pushed at least 2 scum. quit complaining. | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:54 Grackaroni wrote: then you haven't been reading my posts lol. Actually this is very concerning considering I am your top scum read. I thought BH was town for a long time when he was pushing me. my mind changed when got himself caught in an obvious lie. | ||
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On November 20 2013 04:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Rayn, if austin is scum HF is 100% town because they could never fake that whole log. Agreed? agreed. | ||
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On November 20 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote: If it makes you feel better I got them both as town. You too. How can you agree with BH's case on me? You've played with me enough to know better. | ||
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On November 20 2013 04:50 Koshi wrote: Grack made case on Koshi. Grack played a lot with Koshi. #potkettleblack Pretty sure I have been calling you town the entire game. Or at least didn't say you were scum. Lol no you said you were going to listen to BH if he's not scum so you must like his case. | ||
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On November 20 2013 04:58 Koshi wrote: Grack are you afraid BH isn't going to flip scum or something? I want to know how anyone besides BH can agree with any of that. | ||
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Because he promised to kill a 2 shot scum Vigi at the last second at the end of the deadline with no indication of VE being around. | ||
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On November 20 2013 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would VE not come around? Of course VE will come around regardless of his alignment in case he wins mayor election he sure wants to use his lynch. 15 minute window to send a kill? I wouldn't risk it. | ||
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I say SS lynch targets bad/SS bad scum hunter. SS asks me who he should look at instead. I say Mocsta case is best case. SS filters Mocsta. SS declares he will lynch Mocsta. He'd have to be Risen to do that as scum. He could just ignore me as a troll or say he didn't want to lynch Mocsta. | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:12 Pandain wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Might aswell put this here: Pandain: I don't like this post at all: (#1289) Earlier on he "called Mocsta out" for his bad case on Storr. But he uses same (invalid) evidence in calling Storr scum (the newbie-card, which Storr never actually used). Also his stance on Hopeless is shit and what he says does not make Hopeless scum. (#1438) Does not want to vote for VE for mayor because "he might end up lynching non-scum". But earlier on he said VE is better analyst than yamato, and said mayor should be selected by not looking only D1 lynch and who is better analyst overall. Contradicting himself. (#1713) Now Storr is town because he is playing the noob card so much. But he was just scum for it? (#1718) Another bad justification for scumread on Hopeless. Then there is this BH claim thing. I kinda get Pandain from town pov from that whole mess. What i don't get is that he attacks me "for believing BH's claim" which i definitely did not do, then he wastes a fuckton of posts in arguing about the claim, useless. Also does not attack Grack who actually DID say he believed BH's claim lol. "You can never read me as scum Rayn, you have never been close to lynching me." -> This is completely incorrect, in Thug life i told Koshi to shoot Pandain and he did (we were too busy lynching other scum), in Hogwarts i figured Pandain was scum on N1, had no time to lynch him, but saying i can't read him is wrong. This is a kind of defense Pandain uses as scum, saying things like "I have literally been town the whole game" or "You can't possibly think i am scum". Yes that's what he actually says as scum when someone accuses him. "I think Vayne is scum he's playing like ##." Vayne is playing nothing like in ##. Interestingly enough Pandain trust supersoft as 100% town as he has masoned him, but supersoft calls Pandain definitely scum in one of his last posts before D1 end. Pandain's read on me is terrible. He never explains why he thinks i am scum. Last game where i was actually scum Pandain made a big case on me so i would think he feel comfortable in reading me if he is town (while the case was in fact bullshit). Instead of making a case he gives no reasoning but keeps on saying "i could support rayn lynch the most". Pandain's case on BH regarding BH's claim is terrible. Honestly, it's so really bad. Then suddenly, when BH "un-claims" he staright out believes BH to be town for that.. Suddenly he has a scumread on Oats, he has never mentioned Oats before in this game. Read on Austin is "austin's been fine, he's been pushing people and giving opinions", unfortunately that does not mean anything at all - and austin has NOT been pushing people. He says this about BH: "Based on his fakeclaim alone he's actually town. There are better places to argue now" So in case he knows BH is fakeclaiming he can say anything he wants about BH (which he did, like 3 pages of his filter) - and when BH unclaims he can just flush it all away with this. Nothing matters any more. Good plan if they are scum or if Pandain believed BH was fakeclaiming in the first place (he called BH's claim fake in the first place so this actually is true in any case lol). After this he defends BH's original claim (why would scum claim 6h before the deadline) - but earlier on he attacked BH for same reasons? (#3326) This post is totally wrong, supersoft was not "basically mayor already", supersoft did not "want to lynch Mocsta", supersoft brings Mocsta up AT THE FIRST TIME IN HIS FILTER 3 minutes before the deadline!!!! Supersoft has not done ANY analysis at all, his filter is shit. This post is totally misleading analysis of supersoft. Then there is this "this makes Onegu scum but he is town" analysis. TLDR; Pandain's reasoning for his reads makes no sense at all. His play is all over the place and there is no direction. There is no logical train of thought and he seems to be trying to achieve nothing besides just saying stuff for sake of saying stuff. This all have i said before lol. ^^ And like i said before, he is scum. * Post numbers before comments are the post numbers in thread. Can you explain to me how to quickly find the quotes you're referencing so I can just stop this as well LOL. good question. How did he expect us to understand any of that. | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:15 Pandain wrote: Grack do you think I'm town btw I'm actually still unsure  Looking at active players besides BH I would rather lynch BC/koshi than you. Would place you as null with VE/Austin | ||
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On November 20 2013 06:34 Koshi wrote: supersoft might have released the kraken. or even worse, the gracken. | ||
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On November 20 2013 07:10 Pandain wrote: No one else in this thread is going to say that wasn't a real claim Rayn. You're alone and you're bullshitting and you're so retarded in it you're probably scum Rayn is never really this involved as scum. He just talks about unimportant things and plays the Rayn game to build up his post count. Also, bring back the Rayn game that was fun. | ||
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On November 20 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh my fucking god. Blazinghand even called Grackaroni dumb for believing the claim was real. Are you even reading the guys posts you are lynching? lol yeah and he was full of shit. Read the posts where he is talking about how that is a really good breadcrumb because the wording is strange, but you will never be able to notice what the crumb actually means. That is a very real BH belief that he has talked about before this game and the breadcrumb was intended to be serious. | ||
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-Was right about Mocsta and tried to push town towards him. -wrote a case on why Koshi is scum -dunked BH after he claimed scum -I'm smart enough to defend Oatsmaster, who scum will 100% try to mislynch at some point in this game. -I've Played in a way that dumb scummers thought they could exploit for a mislynch and backfired miserably. That's 5 Things. Your turn BC to list your contributions. | ||
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On November 20 2013 07:26 VayneAuthority wrote: from a quick glance of that storm game his play looks similar here, just ad hom attacks a lot and tries to distract people from scumhunting. Insults in pretty much every post really? BC would have to be like an enormous asshole to fake that. | ||
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On November 20 2013 07:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Point 1 valid point 2 is borderline but ill take point 3 doesn't count as everyone can claim point 3 point 4 is something mafia can easily do point 5 playing like a complete asshat is not a contribution. So you have 2 points in your favour. However I do love pfft I was the original Blazinghand killer. Your contributions BC? 5 things. I take that comment back. Doesn't make any sense. Why aren't you angry at CC? He outright said he would lurk. | ||
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On November 20 2013 07:59 Grackaroni wrote: pfft I was the original Blazinghand killer. Your contributions BC? 5 things. I take that comment back. Doesn't make any sense. Why aren't you angry at CC? He outright said he would lurk. BC answer plox. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:03 Mig wrote: Grack can you explain how you know Oats is town? Oats you want to lynch HF/hopeless tomorrow? What do you think about BC? Does anyone know who masond VE? I have a hard time believing town has 5+ masons and mafia none. Oats looks really scummy as town lol. When he's scum he tries to make his posts seem sensible, plays more passively, and tries to avoid getting a lot of attention. This Oats is getting in dumb fights constantly; town Oats is agressive, confrontational, and dumber than scum Oats. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even need to read Grack's filter to know it's terrible. lol no. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he is acting like a baby and every time he posts he whines about me posting so much bohoo too hard to read bullcrap and then says nothing.. Also as i said i refuse to believe scum did not want to run for mayor. so basically.... SS is scum because he complains about you? Sounds logical. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well you called everyone who accused you scum and then basically went afk at D2 start. I agree that if you had known BH is not scum (being scum) you would have probably done something to avoid this situation and that's a point in your favor - i mean if you were scum you would have known BH will flip non-scum and therefore tried to avoid this situation by being more active on D2. I am not calling you scum, i just think you could be more productive because i know you are capable of being more productive. I don't think Koshi was accusing me earlier, but yeah a lot of the accusations against me having been scummy. Mocsta was scummy. BC's post was scummy and he is still scummy. VE/BH were basically scum too lol. I Don't see what the problem is. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey grack you deny that your filter is terrible? vehemently. | ||
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people just say that because I make a lot of random posts. The reads in there are solid. | ||
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On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again? there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch. | ||
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On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta. How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read. lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected. You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum. | ||
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On November 20 2013 12:18 Holyflare wrote: VA already brought up that when SS mentioned he was reading into mocsta austin switched his vote to VE. What do you make of that? I think that's silly. I really doubt it went down like you are implying. SS: "Oh shit Grack said Mocsta. Nothing I can do now but bus Mocsta and hope VE wins mayor and shows up for the mayor lynch that he was trying to give to me" Austinmcc "Daaaaaamn better switch to VE hehe!" | ||
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On November 20 2013 12:49 Holyflare wrote: I am not implying ss is scum. I am implying austin could be. oh I thought you were agreeing with Rayn. idk exact same minute for the vote and SS looking at Mocsta. That's probably just a coincidence. | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:30 Mig wrote: What are your thoughts on Coag then Grack? dunno. He has town reads on me/kush/vayne/alakaslam but everyone else is scum. | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:35 Holyflare wrote: Actually, did grack talk about this mason qt at all?? Did BH reveal assassin/tracker stuff in it? I'm afraid all he did in it was post a link to an excellent ms paint drawing illustrating the difference between pants heads and sock heads. | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:41 Coagulation wrote: wtf. there is no fucking convos look into your heart coagulation. You know it to be true. | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: So hey Grackaroni. Post the mason QT, you said Coagulation was active there. Show us. I'm working on digging up that pants head vs. sock head drawing first. Mason logs come later. | ||
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On November 21 2013 08:33 austinmcc wrote: But I still want to hear from grack why he do what he do It's just what I do. It's an urge! | ||
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On September 27 2013 05:24 Palmar wrote: I'm member of one of the mafia teams. I'm requesting one person from the other team PM me, or if that's not allowed, just claim in the thread so we can work together. SCUM On September 27 2013 14:08 Pandain wrote: I'm member of Derelict Row Ballers. Palmar, how should we proceede? On September 27 2013 14:09 Pandain wrote: I didn't tell my team but I figure they'll be alright with it. SCUM On October 06 2013 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Btw S0lstice claimed scum to me. He masoned me by payphone, and said that he was on the 'other' scum team and could help me win the game. He didnt specify which but im guessing hes the one scummer left and hoped i was on the trio. SCUM On October 08 2013 13:05 Chairman Ray wrote: You guys are way too good at this and I'm sorta crumbling from the pressure. I don't think I have the mafia skill to prevent myself from being lynched the next day. Probably not worth the effort since I have no chance to win anyways. I am actually the last banger. SnB and palmer have given me permission to give up ages ago. I lost some motivation after they died since there was basically no way for us to win at that point. It was clearly either a town victory or the other scumteam's victory. I'll just vest it up every night and see how long I survive. Sorry for not being all that active. Definitely won't be joining another mafia game until I have more free time.SCUM On October 12 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Eh, i really dont care anymore. In any other game i would be fighting so hard in this situation. In noir mini and nomination and aperture, i was so active end game, and the former two i was making cases and huge posts all over the place. Problem is, I don't care. It's difficult to care when your teammate CLAIMED SCUM for absolutely no reason. Like, even despite having 4 confirmed towns and night actions being retarded, we still had a chance. CR claimed because he thought he would get lynched no matter what... DIDNT EVEN FIGHT JUST ROLLED OVER. We could have easily pushed austin off a cliff by lynch, or i could have bussed him for towncred etc. nope. claim scum, gg. Like wtf... basically ruined any chance we had at winning here. SCUM On September 27 2013 05:30 Grackaroni wrote: Hello Palmar, I am eager to help your mafia organization. Please tell me your mafia teammates so that I know not to shoot them tonight. On September 27 2013 05:31 Grackaroni wrote: It's not a big deal I'll tell you mine first so that you know you can trust me. My team is Chairman Ray and BH TOWN I rest my case! | ||
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On November 21 2013 09:09 Mig wrote: Thanks for the help Grack. no worries. I'll take care of that bloody cobbler problem if hes still alive after the night. | ||
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On November 21 2013 09:29 VayneAuthority wrote: my breadcrumb is actually pretty good lol, I wonder if anyone caught on to it. koshi blatantly said it but doesnt know my role for some reason I think I may have saw one. | ||
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On November 21 2013 09:31 VayneAuthority wrote: there is at least 10 crumbs in my filter if not more hueheuehgue was there one in your big garbage post? | ||
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On November 21 2013 09:33 VayneAuthority wrote: nah as I explained that was genuinely picture links not working correctly. there is a clear theme that should be obvious and I don't really care if anyone knows i have a role anymore. doesnt matter at this point lol then I missed it. | ||
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Why is Mig scum? Because he shot the lurkers that he bitched about town being unwilling to lynch. Because he didn't shoot BC, even though he could have just not claimed the shot. It's so ridiculous that BC tries to twist some scum motivation out of this. | ||
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That's just what I do HF. When SS exposed himself as a lover in Hogwarts and said his partner would be angry I pretended to be his lover as well. that comment was obviously about thrawn masoning him. If I had actually masoned BH he would have yelled about it in thread to try to lynch me. It baffles me that anyone can think I was serious with that. | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:47 Coagulation wrote: I coulda kept right on cruising under the spot light with no pressure. think about it. clearly somethings up. Also Coag looks absolutely terrible imo. He posts nothing but he follows along the thread to see if he is under suspicion. | ||
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On November 21 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote: that applies to half the game ( although they are dwindling now) lol no I mean he literally posted nothing. for 2 days. then popped in 10 minutes after his name showed up and admitted he knew he was under no pressure. | ||
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On November 21 2013 15:40 Coagulation wrote: yeah oats lynch people who are proven to be following thread and calling out bullshit when they see it to help town. good plan. sounds smart to me. | ||
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Lean town: Mig/Austin/HolyFlare/Lonemeow/Oatmaster Null: Onegu/hopeless/SS/Risen/Cheesecake/alakaslam Lean scum: Thrawn/Pandain Scum : Coag/bloodyc0bbler | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:37 Koshi wrote: Towny town: leaning town: VA, austin, Holyflare, supersoft, Mig, Grack, leaning scum: Thrawn, Oats, rayn, Onegu, LoneMeow, Alakaslam, Risen, Coagulation, Hopeless1der, Pandain, Mr. Cheesecake Scummy scum: BloodyC0bbler That's were I am with what I have. People will move up down after todays lynch. our lists are actually pretty close lol. Way different than hogwarts. | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:44 Koshi wrote: yeah, pretty close. Did you see my post about Mayor election D1? What do you think about no scum on Yamato? I have never been in a game in which scum were not spreading votes like mofos. Every time, every game they split their votes. You think not a single one was on Yamato while Yamato yelled he would lynch BH (not scum) or Onegu/austin? I actually haven't thought to examine the mayor votes yet. I would imagine they are reasonably spread out but nobody really knew if Yamato would still go through with BH after the tracker claim. | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:33 Mig wrote: Grack do you still think Oats is town? What do you think about him posting yea BC is scummy, I would be fine lynching BC then deciding that SS is more scummy and voting him? oh god I have absolutely no clue what he is doing lol. He gave no reason for his vote change. If you ask him about it he will just tell you that not giving reasons for votes is a townie trait. I think it fits his town meta more to be honest. | ||
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On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi you have 12 scumreads? You know he would never attack you at that time as scum. He would be too afraid of you. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:00 supersoft wrote: Why. Give me examples. Explain this to me! How does this whole game of Oats fit anyones townmeta. He is only destructive. contradicts himself, votes badly. Please tell me Rayn could probably explain it better than I can. If you look at White Flag he actually tries to look contributive and gives reasons for what he does. Town Oats switches reads randomly and ends up looking really scummy. Town Oats can have terrible reads. In Golden Sun he yelled that the scum team was Vayne/Pandain as town even after the parity cop had already flipped making that combination impossible. | ||
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maybe I'm misreading your filter? Most of your posts are about why Thrawn is red and then you say nvm about Thrawn and he disappears from your lynch list. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:30 Coagulation wrote: why is anyone listening to grack ever for that matter? cuz I kill the scums. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:31 Koshi wrote: Believe it or not but the guy that fakeclaimed mason to make some1 look bad is probably town. lol it wasn't to make somebody look bad. I can't believe anyone thought I would really mason Coag or that he would be active in a mason chat. He does nothing. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:36 Coagulation wrote: Yeah well what was your goal with doing it in the first place? It was a joke. Normally I would say Kushm4sta but he was actually doing something this game so people might have taken it seriously. | ||
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On November 22 2013 04:45 Coagulation wrote: ok do you realize the joke gave you a very high probability of being lynched today with no payoff at all? (more like negative payoff because your now going after the people who think its scummy wat)? If your town its your job to avoid getting lynched and find scum right? if your town why would you shift town focus in the wrong direction like that and at the same time risk a mis lynch? thats just on top of the fact your trying to fuck me personally. not really lol. When I pretended to be Toad's lover in Hogwarts he was just like "lol it's not Grack..." I had absolutely no idea that you would make such a big deal over it. I'm going after you because you are actively lurking and I think it is likely that you just filter for your own name to see if you are going to be lynched. My impression of you before was that you just didn't give a shit. | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:02 Coagulation wrote: listen guy dont do this "but i did this before so I must be doing this now" pitch its old and completely useless and empty. Im not actively lurking anymore so thats old news as well. at the start of the game I WAS INACTIVE A BIT CAUSE I DIDNT HAVE FUCKING POWER FOR 4 DAYS BITCH. I dont filter thread for my own fucking name and I didnt start feeling like i dont give a shit untill self proclaimed townies started openly spreading misinformation in thread for the lulz. I don't see how that matters lol. You were doing it before but now you aren't so you must be town. Maybe I just don't know coag. | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: uhh.. so what, he just outs himself for no reason? or is he bussing you or vice versa? I dunno what you are trying to say. lol wat. "I think Grackaroni is bussing me" "Let's lynch him" | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:09 Coagulation wrote: Maybe my fucking powers not out anymore. I'm not talking about your power being out you admitted you were actively lurking the thread. | ||
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On November 22 2013 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey wtf Grack, I thought we were buddies. We are. But his mindset doesn't make sense to call me scum for being useless while treating you as a townie.He just rails on me for trolling and completely ignores the fact that I helped take down Mocsta and that I had written a case on Koshi earlier. (Even though its wrong in retrospect) | ||
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-Storrzerg scum. Newb card + Mayor run. -Grack troll. Scum -Mg has KP and shot lurkers. Scum. -HF. Scum. Different reads than me. He doesn't comment on anything else at all in the thread aside from mason talk. He never looks into my filter and tries to actually question my posts even though he says that he does that with trolls because they tend to slip up. He says Mocsta never communicates with teammates and then tries to find some bullshit reasoning to twist me into still being scum. (Which he already said was bad now) He still accused me of being scum for trolling even when he was 100% convinced BH would flip red. (Mocsta + BH bus me. I bus both of them? Really?) He starts raging about useless people when the lynch is going his way which is completely un-genuine. He tries to twist Mig saying he wished Bc had died after seeing Artanis didn't shoot him into a scum slip of knowing that BC would survive. Whenever people ask him about somebody besides me or Mig he just says that they are behaving normally or null. Plus If you believe that Austin is town then Artanis was RB when scum thought RBing Artanis prevented BC from dying. | ||
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On November 22 2013 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote: /sarcasm...1/5, would not troll again. ah | ||
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On November 22 2013 13:23 VayneAuthority wrote: there's no point in hiding roles at this point in the game so any fucking around is just a scumclaim at this point. And I remember you saying from hogwarts that you like to hold information even from your scumteam so it lines up pretty well with that. You in your own little world thinking you are clever or something. I don't remember that play from you as town. haha don't be a jerk. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:23 Mig wrote: If Risen is scum he is a beast. On one hand you put 0 effort in at all this entire game then when about to be lynched you explode. But it seems believable. I have no clue really tough. Anyone want to talk about thrawn. He posted 65 times in his other game and not here, 65! Also, 16 people have received votes today but not him. Why is he so completely ignored. If he were town seems like an easy person to jump on for mafia. that is ridiculous. I might be down to lynch him. Also considering Pandain. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:53 Pandain wrote: What are the reasons for Rayn being town except for him posting a lot and making cases. I think that is a pretty good reason lol. | ||
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On November 23 2013 06:59 Mig wrote: Grack who do you plan on voting for with your second vote. Coag isn't going to be lynched looks like. I'm not sure. There's no cases to look at or any real reasoning going on at all right now in this thread. Pandain why didn't you mason me this game? | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote: How the fuck did I forget about the liar? lol you didn't. It pained you that you couldn't policy lynch me. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: You don't even have a case on me you idiot. this is true. All I've seen is that Rayn has accused many people. He does that every game. | ||
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On November 23 2013 09:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I asked you ages ago for 5 valid contributions youve done and you couldn't do it. Since then I have scanned your filter and guess what? I don't need to answer your, or analyze you post by post. You have 0 fucking content. You have been riding the "i pushed mocsta and almost got him lynched card" Thats all you got. Given that most people didn't want me constantly filling the thread with "grack is scum and heres a page of analysis why" I stopped. Sucks for you that I pegged you. Sucks for me no one believes me. No I did it lol. Then I asked you and you quit talking to me. | ||
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On November 18 2013 16:32 Grackaroni wrote: I'm get a pretty good vibe off of Oats right now. I haven't reread his filter I've just been chatting so far. Comment meant nothing. It was just because I liked that it was scum pushing my lynch and would like to believe that other people pushing me are also scum. Pandain/BC/VE/BH all fit that category off the top of my head. Should actually be a decent number of scum in there too. Fuck Yeah. They all tried to kill the Grackaroni! Pandain likely town cuz of BC vote switch though T_T | ||
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On November 23 2013 10:27 VayneAuthority wrote: Town: Mig, Grack, Me, Holyflare Slightly town: Coag, Hopeless, supersoft, Oats Slightly scum: koshi, risen, alakaslam Scum: austinmcc, LM unknowns: Onegu, Mr.CC, Pandain Think that's everyone I don't think Koshi would go all out like that vs Rayn as scum. | ||
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On November 23 2013 10:51 Risen wrote: The circlejerk going on in this thread right now is strong. Too much scum touching between mig, VA, Grack. How do I know there's scum amongst these folks? Because they're not afraid of giving out their fucking town reads at NIGHT. Also their totally fucking smug obviously X shouldn't be lynched bullshit. How does mig not see that BC moving to rayn not only killed a townie but also set up my lynch tomorrow buying Pandain TWO lynches if not more. On top of this ss is skating in the clear now, so what if Pandain is town and ss is scum? The whole thing with BC needs to be fucking IGNORED. I'm hoping I'm able to die tonight but won't get myself modkilled to do so. this may honestly be the worst reasoning I've ever seen for scum reads. | ||
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On November 24 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote: if you think pandain is certain town then you should agree with me that austin is scum. one of those 2 is scum for sure. and slam is way too low on your list. Am I missing something? I don't get why one has to be scum. | ||
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On November 24 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote: because you either trust my reads or you get to make me look like a complete retard @ endgame, win/win I only do that with Rayn lol | ||
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On November 24 2013 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I want a formal massclaim tomorrow, actions and all. Dont fakeclaim as town. I want to count the blues and see whats what So I need to think of some role to claim and a really dumb action to go with it. Got it. I'm mason and I masoned Blazinghand but he didn't know that I masoned him because I accidentally sent the pm to marvellbabe instead of Marvellosity. | ||
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On November 24 2013 10:14 VayneAuthority wrote: Why not? I always give confirmed town the benefit of the doubt. Then if they are wrong with our top read I ignore everything else. I mean Mig and I are both strong scumhunters and we are also both basically confirmed town. | ||
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On November 24 2013 10:22 thrawn2112 wrote: Am I a horrible person for not caring about a game of forum mafia for 48 hours? This part in particular reads really fake to me considering he made like 60 posts in the other game. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. lol actually can you tell me about this post? | ||
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On November 17 2013 10:26 Pandain wrote: No I thought he was more scummy for using the newb card while running for mayor Actually you are right Austin. This needs to be explained. | ||
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On November 24 2013 14:07 austinmcc wrote: I promise I read stuff. There's a lot in those cases that I throw out, including some side-stuff that is unimportant like VE saying pandain scum-slipped by noting there was only one mafia mason (absolutely can't be true if pandain mafia). But the storrzerg comments DID just jump back and forth between townie/scummy. I don't doubt that you read lol. What are the questionable things you keep mentioning about Vayne? The bulk of your argument seems to be based on Vayne claiming mad hatter and BC forgetting to mention vayne when discussing much kp town has which seems dumb to me. If he was in a QT with Vayne I'm sure vayne would be in there blabbing about his hatter claim in the QT so he's not exactly more likely to forget Vayne when talking about that. Aside from that how frequently do scum breadcrumb a role from the start of the game all game long and make themselves stuck to that claim? I'd say close to never. | ||
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On November 24 2013 14:23 Pandain wrote: If someone claims they're newb while running for mayor that doesn't make sense at all. It's a contradiction in both how you perceive yourself in the game and how you want to play it. And contradictions, especially that kind, usually means scum. My reading comprehension is bad lol. I thought you switched to thinking he was town. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:34 thrawn2112 wrote: Grack it's stuff like this: This is what you did during D1. You trolled around "pushing" the kush for mayor lynch when iirc he didn't even want to be mayor, and in case he was town probably would have been one of the worst mayor candidates. Starting from that post in your filter there are several more afterwards where you talk about wanting kush for mayor but none of it looks like you ACTUALLY want him in that position... it's just trolling. Yamato pressures you to actually do something productive and you respond with this: This is what I'm referring to when I say Grack's trolling is a means of deflection from actually having to contribute. Yeah I absolutely love the Kushm4sta and sometimes I do things purely for my own enjoyment. If there was anything really telling at the start of the game I would have commented on it. You make it sound like everybody is asking for my opinion on people and I just deflect but that isn't the case. You can ask me whatever you would like and I will give you a serious answer. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:49 thrawn2112 wrote: Lets do this. I want 100% srs answers from you from here on out. Let's start with your current read on me because I have no idea what it is. You've made these posts since D4 started... ... but you have yet to actually say anything along the lines of "lets lynch thrawn" or "I think thrawn is scum and here is my case." So what is your objective with these posts, because it looks like you're just trying to push along my lynch without actually having to be outspoken about it? I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people. There is actually somebody else that I am watching very closely that I don't want to mention yet. I don't like the fact that you were so sure Blazinghand wasn't mafia and that you had me as a scum read for "attacking Blazinghand because he attacked me" I even gave some credit to BH's case because I understood trolling is something that BH would try to do as mafia to avoid suspicion. I attacked BH when he scum claimed to me by making fun of his fake claim breadcrumb. I distrust people who avoid one game while being active in another and your reasons for lynching me are the same as Bloodyc0bblers, yet you still seem to think that is somehow valid. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:58 VayneAuthority wrote: grack comment on this and convince me that risen is still a good lynch and slam is not. I have to agree with Pandain on this. Everything about BC's play was fake so I don't think he necessarily has to be nice to his teammates. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:12 thrawn2112 wrote: But what is your actual read? Not "I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people" because that doesn't say anything about how scummy you think I am compared to anyone else. Am I your top read? Close to that? Give me a definitive answer. You are not my top scum read. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote: be nice to his teammates? what are you even talking about. im talking about where he blatantly says "Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town" WHEN TOWN. i don't understand you people that's not the same thing as Mocsta's slip for you being town. Risen specifically said in that post he only reads the thread as mafia and will not read it as town. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:18 VayneAuthority wrote: how does that change anything? It doesn't matter if it's a slip or not. It's the phrasing the phrasing makes sense. Risen says he hates being town and will not the thread. BC says anyone unwilling to read a thread as town shouldn't be allowed to play. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:24 VayneAuthority wrote: how much better the thread is? this thread is dogshit right now. I'm back to 1 townread max in mig, and im sure hes gonna go full retard too when he gets back just for fun. cause why not? Then you're a noob lol. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:45 thrawn2112 wrote: no i don't think so... besides that he's low priority for me atm Besides me and Vayne who do you suspect? | ||
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On November 25 2013 09:11 Alakaslam wrote: "Look, boy, it's a scum claim! Again! Wow he must actually be scum!" "Wooooooofffffffffffaugh child, go not thither. He is exasperated, shalt destroy thine own town" "WWIOOOOOOAOUGH! My German shepherd just talked to me! I have balaam's donkey reincarnate!" People complain about me being a troll lol. | ||
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On November 25 2013 12:24 Hopeless1der wrote: I dont think he's town, this lynch just feels shitty is all. Going to bed now so I'll try to make something happen in the morning. I can understand not wanting to lynch somebody just because SS. I don't see how you can really believe your old case on Pandain is still good reasoning for a vote because there is nothing really damning in that case. The biggest point that you and Austin brought up was about Pandain's storrzerg comments and that turned out to be wrong. | ||
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Are thrawn's mason logs with Rayn hidden somewhere in Rayn's filter? Also I want to see the Pandain-Thrawn logs. | ||
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On November 26 2013 10:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: i know, but all 3 mafia have pushed grack lol And they've all been owned. Nubs. Scum will probably just surrender. | ||
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If risen flips town focus on Koshi/slam/Oats/Onegu. If things start going badly later on in the game then consider the possibility of bussing. Scum team might have been disorganized without Bloodyc0bbler and with Thrawn afk they could have disagreed on what to do. If Risen is mafia coag lynch is best. | ||
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On November 27 2013 01:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Grack might not be town omg theory fuck my life + Show Spoiler [Bussing Theory] + Okay, so who has pushed Grack this game? Mocsta, BC, Thrawn (All confirmed scum), and scummy people like Coag, and Risen to a certain degree. Problem is, none of these scummers (and potential scummers) have really tried to get him lynched. They've just flung shit at him left and right. Look at that opening D4 post by thrawn, he just says OMG GRACK SCUM. NOBODY in the thread thinks he is scum, why say this now as mafia? To distance yourself from a buddy. Thrawn had an intention behind calling grack scum, and I really can't figure it out other than bussing to make Grack look better if Thrawn flipped. Mocsta and BC both had Grack and scum, Posts on him etc, but never pushed their cases. I feel like everyone who has been calling grack scum hasn't had a good handle on the game from a townie mindset (I.E. they are mafia). There are also quotes in Gracks fitler about all the mafia being on him, and one in Coags filter about all the mafia bussing grack... If Coag / Risen are mafia I'd highly suggest lynching Grack because of this. In no circumstance do we lynch him before lylo. In addition, wtf has grack done this game?!?!!? I've lynched scum this game. | ||
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On November 27 2013 01:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Kinda but not really. As I said, fuck my life. lol my reads have been impeccable all game long. | ||
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On November 27 2013 01:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mine are impeccable as scum too. I really don't think you are scum, but it's sitting in the back of my mind because that's how I play scum. Were you in Aperture 2? Only reason me and clarity were called scum, was because we were alive. Even though I bussed my entire team. Nah I was not. I'd guess you lost? | ||
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On November 27 2013 01:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: No we won convincingly, point is bussing = good tactic toi have. meh I think it would be a pretty stupid tactic. How would I look if I'm sitting in lylo with a group of people like coag/slam/hopeless/you/lonemeow. | ||
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On November 27 2013 10:41 VayneAuthority wrote: §23109812 beep boop beep (for my mafia team only) haha suckers! Agreed. | ||
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On November 27 2013 11:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Its gonna be Risen votes all day. Hey Coag, you know how you get nightkilled? You play the game. Nah that doesn't work lol. I'm pretty sure you need to lead a mislynch to get NK | ||
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On December 02 2013 08:09 austinmcc wrote: 1 goal down! Come ooonnnnn, other goals! I think Oats is the best lynch because of BC's interactions with him and some of Pandain's points. BC is really wishy washy with his read on Oats. Considering how hard BC was buddying SS and the RB on Oats and the fact that his only reasoning for people being scummy was that they were useless, I think he would have tried to kill Oatsmaster if Oats was town (especially with his own life on the line and needing a mislynch.) Instead he kept trying to push me for being useless which makes absolutely no sense with SS pushing Oats. + Show Spoiler + YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 10:57 AM ET (US) id prefer others but BH cannot be town. His play is that of scum or assassin. You could make a case likely for either side without any issue. I am unsure of oats currently based purely on the play this current cycle. I find that harder to see in a scum motivated player compared to a town one. + Show Spoiler + On November 19 2013 12:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: BH has to die plain and simple. None of his actions have been in anyones betterment but his own. IE hes scum or assassin. I want to say oats is scum. Super has a very decent case on him, and his responses to you and to super since have been well, shit. Rather than attempting to truly defend himself, or create a situation that people could see him as town hes acting like a complete ass. Hes being confrontational for confrontations sake and isn't trying to help anything. I honestly think unless things shape up he has to go as part of me can see his reactions as just a pissed off townie. + Show Spoiler + 75 Supers 11-18-2013 05:27 PM ET (US) i need your opinion on Oats... I am not sure, if there is a KP missing n1, 4 KP, one shot by Mocsta... I think there might be one missing. I am not entirely sure. Regardless of that, I really think my case has something in it. Do you have any objections you want to talk about? 76 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 09:45 PM ET (US) not sure about a missing kp tbh 5 dead one being red. Marv said there were 6 mafia in thread so their kp would be 3. That puts them at 4. Still need to filter dive oats as a ton of your case requires reading them all + Show Spoiler + 77 YulathPerson was signed in when posted 11-18-2013 09:56 PM ET (US) I am going to have to take a step back from my tunneling ive been doing. I realize I am tunneling like I did against yamato only this time with grack -_- As a note I strongly disagree with your pandain read. I also can see mig based off today potentially being town. I don't like his lack of participation in thread but he is actively updating his reads on his spreadsheet and when he posted today he was making sense as much as it pisses me off to admit. Id place my reads more like Town Koshi VE You Me Artanis OOHchild Pandain Null Grack Mig Thrawn Rayn Lonemeow Scum Hopeless BH Leaning scum Oats Holyflare + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2013 09:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: So. Given that people are still retarded and I am still dying I ensure that my reads get dropped sooner rather than later. I have spent time over the last few days filter diving and trying to avoid tunnel vision too terribly. I recognize it happens and I am prone to it. 100% town BloodyC0bbler Supersoft Pandain Rayn Coag Koshi Null Cheesecake Vayne onegu slam lonemeow Risen Mafia Thrawn Grackeroni HolyFlare Hopeless1nder Oatsmaster Mig (possible) Austin (possible) Now, what you guys need to do after I flip and you realize you were all bloody wrong is take a long hard look at my reads all game. You will realize I am not bloody retarded like you guys are and with my last will and testament you can win the damn game. My reasoning behind these choices Thrawn I suspected Hiro before thrawn subbed in. Primarily from an activity standpoint but his posts that he did have suck. Thrawn since subbing in has been incredibly active for a day then kinda vanished off the radar. The impact he was making is completely gone and honestly done nothing concrete that I would say makes him town. He doesn't feel right. Grack He has only one solid contribution to an entire game. He pushed mocsta. However his vote didn't get mocsta lynched. As “townie” as it looks, you can't opt to make someone townie for a possible contribution. Since then he has done a bunch of nothing and has actively lied about masoning people. He was called out on this and no one seems to care. This is incredibly fucked beyond belief and honestly escapes me that no one has seen through this ruse yet. HolyFlare This kid is up there with grack. He has spent the better part of the game tunneling me to shit. He doesn't have a plethora of reads. He even vanishes off the face of the earth. However he always seems to reappear around times I am active to push me to avoid me getting off “heat”. His only other rise to fame is that he was in talks with artanis. Given that holy was in talks with him, he would in the end have known the actual shot target. Rbing the vig then killing him would incriminate me further while leading no heat to himself. This sets up the game for a townie misslynch. Given he is one of the core people pushing repeatedly for my death and I know I'm not scum, that leaves only one option for him which is scum. Hopeless1nder. Has no real contributions to the game. Is around enough to ensure hes not modkilled, and posts randomly throughout the game. Mimics thread sentiment too much. As such almost guarenteed red. Oatmaster SS is my top town read. Given that and his rb target n1 and 1 kp missing I am inclined to agree that it could be because of this roleblock but not solely because of it. He has played in such a way that the game has become cluttered whenever he appears. He argues with basically everyone and ruins the thread. He does next to nothing aside from create chaos and make the thread unreadable. Mig Yea yea you all are going to be like “but hes a 2 shot vig”. I have no qualms admitting he is very likely the role he claimed. However I really dislike how he handled my pressure on calling him out on his shots and his claim. He claims to be extremely logical and in my eye is not playing to that standard. When you are mafia trying to emulate your actual style of play you are bound to mess up at some point. He also vanishes for long periods of time and appears to primarily tunnel. Austin Honestly He is only here on the offchance that in the 6 names prior to this one 3 flip town. He should be the last to die off this list. His play has been decent overall with a few small minor issues. Given I know how good his scum game can be, these issues could make him scum, but not ahead of anyone else on the list. Note: I have both supersoft and pandain as town reads primarily because of the masoning. However the back and forth created from pandain/ss about the whole pandain is a vet/one of them lied could mean 1 is scum. ##Vote: Oatsmaster I agree that Cheesecake could also be mafia but I don't feel as strongly about him. He had pretty weak reasoning for his change of mind on BC but he did vote for Thrawn. His interactions with the flipped scum aren't nearly as scummy as I think BC/Oats are. It is kind of scummy that he started putting a lot more effort when scum was losing. | ||
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On December 02 2013 08:53 Holyflare wrote: I never said I don't want to lynch oats but I do not want to lynch cheesecake right now. Lynch Oats. | ||
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On November 24 2013 08:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: We lynch risen auto tmrw no shenanies. Then we look into thrawn/oats/koshi. You and me both SS. Although ill prolly F off most of the time just make me proud. On November 24 2013 10:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: OMG SUPER IM SORRY I DOUBTED YOU!!! OATS LOOKS BAD BUT IDC KILL RISEN 10000000% I start the claim. I'm VT. Not doctor, Sadly. On November 24 2013 10:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Because SS said so. Never said thrawn aint maf. Seems a bit biased to me to say that he was bussing Thrawn because he didn't give a lot of reasoning for Thrawn being mafia before his vote switch. | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:09 austinmcc wrote: He didn't give ANY reasoning for thrawn being mafia before the switch. And his switch is because of a BC post, not at all because of anything that thrawn said. He gave more reasoning for Thrawn being mafia then he did for Risen. | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:14 austinmcc wrote: I disagree with this. What reasoning does he give for thrawn? There isn't a lot but he doesn't give any reasoning at all on RIsen lol. On November 26 2013 02:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Thrawn calls grack scum, and risen town. Why the fuck isn't he trying at all to disband this lynch? He knows he's next in line, too. On November 26 2013 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Anyone still accusing grack of being scum is mafia btw. On November 26 2013 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I thought his post entering into today was terrible. The BC stuff in his filter, I looked at it briefly but not intently, didn't seem like anything substantial that isn't out of the realm of normal scum interaction / bussing. I'm actually more curious what Mocsta said about thrawn, if anything. Brb filter On November 26 2013 05:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I feel like BC soft pushes the Thrawn slot for almost no reason. "He lurks, maybe scum" but always wants to lynch 2-3 people more than him. | ||
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On December 02 2013 10:30 VayneAuthority wrote: Also grack should be scrutinized for today. Did absolutely nothing then comes back and writes an oats case, which is exactly what I remember of him from when we played scum together. Time to stop just lynching lurkers and look at the actual game here. lol I was afk for days and I did more than you. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 116 Pandain 11-26-2013 07:39 PM ET (US) Oh lol I was just upset I had no one to talk to 115 Grackaroni 11-26-2013 02:26 PM ET (US) you're making me wifom myself right now lol. That makes so much sense as you bitching at your scumbuddy for getting lynched but at the same time you could never be that careless as scum. 114 Grackaroni 11-26-2013 02:23 PM ET (US) Pandain 11-26-2013 01:25 AM ET (US) Way to die on me That is such a strange reaction to a mafia lynch lol. I'm just assuming right now you would have to have edited that out if you were scum. 113 Pandain 11-26-2013 02:02 PM ET (US) goood point 112 Grackaroni 11-26-2013 11:15 AM ET (US) You should post your mason logs with Thrawn. There has to be some useful stuff in there. 111 Grackaroni 11-26-2013 10:52 AM ET (US) I should probably go write out my points on Oats while I still can. Haven't gotten around to looking at the interactions between Thrawn and Oats. 110 Grackaroni 11-26-2013 10:26 AM ET (US) Wow lots of talking going on all of a sudden. 109 Pandain 11-26-2013 01:26 AM ET (US) If Austin is town this game is guaranteed won 108 Pandain 11-25-2013 11:39 PM ET (US) yeah it is lol 107 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 08:37 PM ET (US) lol this game is finished. 106 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 05:13 PM ET (US) I don't see any reasonable explanation for his BC vote... He had him as townie all game long and then just randomly votes him when it is clear that BC is lynched. 105 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:21 PM ET (US) I'll take possible justification over no justification any day; I do think they are both scum though 104 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:19 PM ET (US) I would but I want a risen lynch I think he's scummier then thrawn. I've never played with thrawn and I could see him being dumb; there's absolutely no justification for risen and we need to lynch him now 103 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 03:24 PM ET (US) Thrawn might actually be even scummier than Risen. Can you post his mason logs in thread? 102 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:40 AM ET (US) Risen. In pulling an all nighter to do a research paper 101 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:35 AM ET (US) I should probably go to sleep. 100 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:31 AM ET (US) overestimating who? 99 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:30 AM ET (US) He better not. We both know either Risen is scum or we are way way way way way way way overestimating him in making choices. 98 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:26 AM ET (US) I have a feeling Vayne could end up lynched just like Rayn was yesterday. 97 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:23 AM ET (US) still useless. Because then it's trackers tracking trackers 96 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:21 AM ET (US) Unless there's like a whole bunch of them we don't know about. 95 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:18 AM ET (US) do you realize how much trackers suck in this game btw. Like they do almost nothing 94 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:17 AM ET (US) LOL 93 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:14 AM ET (US) I was thinking he would claim veteran to be honest. 92 Pandain 11-25-2013 04:13 AM ET (US) I was really confident about it 91 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:11 AM ET (US) I will teach him a thing or two about how to drop a proper bombshell. 90 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 04:10 AM ET (US) haha your thing was way better. 89 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 03:59 AM ET (US) that actually sounds probable. 88 Grackaroni 11-25-2013 03:58 AM ET (US) lol oh god. 87 Pandain 11-25-2013 03:57 AM ET (US) inb4 tracker and had tracked rayn who was nosy neighbor 86 Pandain 11-24-2013 11:45 PM ET (US) yeah and he's very hesistant about it. like in white flag, he bussed without directly pushing 85 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 10:41 PM ET (US) Oats still seems to be acting too reasonably in my opinion lol. 84 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 10:39 PM ET (US) By that I am referring to the "I make scummy comments to attract attention to catch the scum" 83 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 10:38 PM ET (US) What do you think about Thrawn's comment? The only other time I can remember somebody saying that was Chairman Ray in Thug Life and he was scum. 82 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 10:38 PM ET (US) I'm not overly worried about Koshi. 81 Pandain 11-24-2013 09:04 PM ET (US) So yeah I think Koshi is town and I would have to be convinced otherwise even though he's afk. 80 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 08:55 PM ET (US) haha I could only hope so I was pretty sure you were town in Hogwarts. 79 Pandain 11-24-2013 08:49 PM ET (US) Also I was thinking that if you're ever scum, I'm going to be played so hard by you that game. 78 Pandain 11-24-2013 08:49 PM ET (US) I feel like we work extremely well together 77 Pandain 11-24-2013 08:16 PM ET (US) I agree with that, and also he acknowledged that his Mocsta's interactions with him were weird, which I don't think scum would ever admit. Those two lead to a soft town read for me. 76 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 08:10 PM ET (US) I'm reading through the Hogwarts mafia QT right now. (lol I can't believe some people actually suggested killing me there) He doesn't seem quite as nervous as I had expected him to be but I still just can't see him masoning veterans as scum. 75 Pandain 11-24-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) Yeah it would surprise me if LM turned out to be mafia, not that it's impossible. 74 Pandain 11-24-2013 07:49 PM ET (US) I wanted to find out if he was scum but it quickly backfired because he didn't want to talk to a "scum" 73 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:47 PM ET (US) Why did you mason Hopeless anyway? 72 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:44 PM ET (US) Do you agree that Lonemeow is likely town? 71 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:32 PM ET (US) Hopeless actually looks pretty bad. He's complaining about people just blindly following SS but he hasn't give any reasoning at all for Risen being town. 70 Pandain 11-24-2013 07:26 PM ET (US) Koshi I still think is town, there's not much to do tbh 69 Pandain 11-24-2013 07:26 PM ET (US) Just trying to say why risen is not scummy. Bad job at it. Saying Vayne is scum Think he's scum What do you think about hopeless 68 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:13 PM ET (US) Also Koshi said his depression was over and he's still doing nothing. 67 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:13 PM ET (US) I can't understand anything Alakaslam says anymore lol 66 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) What's he doing in your mason chat? 65 Pandain 11-24-2013 06:42 PM ET (US) thrawn looking awful in mason chat. 64 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:33 PM ET (US) I'm not going to bother with oats until night. Risen is just trying to WIFOM us out of lynching him. No way he is town. 63 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:46 AM ET (US) I'm going to ask Marv. 62 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:43 AM ET (US) Nah SS had an extra night life because he was pardoner. Maybe scum RB SS and that prevents RB? I'm not really sure if that's how it works. 61 Pandain 11-24-2013 02:42 AM ET (US) I actually don't want to switch to Coag, more confident in Risen. Waiting for Mig to help shed light as well. I think, also, SS probably blocked mafia, so it makes sense if one of his top three reads were the ones he blocked. So another reason why Coag(maybe Thrawn, less sure on him) might be mafia. 60 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:40 AM ET (US) He loves Rayn lol. And he takes mafia very seriously. I could definitely see all 3 of those people being scum. 59 Pandain 11-24-2013 02:36 AM ET (US) I think he will lol 58 Pandain 11-24-2013 02:36 AM ET (US) I could see Risen/Oats/Coag SO easily right now. Same feeling I got when I thought Bereft/Asinine 57 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:33 AM ET (US) I don't think Koshi is going to come back this game and sadly I think he is town lol 56 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:22 AM ET (US) Yeah I'm pretty sure Mocsta slipped his alignment earlier lol. 55 Pandain 11-24-2013 02:20 AM ET (US) He's still town in my eyes. He's doing what I do a lot and rely on single posts to determine alignment because it's so much easier. He was wrong and doesn't want to admit it. 54 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:17 AM ET (US) wow vayne is really putting himself out on a limb to defend Risen. 53 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 02:01 AM ET (US) "you think I don't believe you aren't just as hopeless if you are town. Since when is asking questions scummy. If I'm not in here prodding discussion the thread is dead silent. If I was on a team with Vayne (or Oats for that matter) then he wouldn't have sheeped your reasoning on me being scum based on my vote because it was going to kill me if Pandain hadn't come in and stopped the wagon. If you had any idea of my Meta at all you would see that I don't have the balls to argue back and forth with people in the manner that I've done this game as scum and I certainly wouldn't claim a role in order to flush out the non-existant SK or risk getting counter-claimed for no benefit. I don't like being in LYLO. It's stressful that's why I try to get myself killed off. I am going to do everything I can to make sure that I am not endgamed for the second game in a row." I'm proud of that one lol. Anyway back to the game. 52 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:58 AM ET (US) The fake emotion was when I was like "Oh god LYLO SO STRESSFUL!!! wtf do I do???" I kind of want to dig up that post now lol it was pretty solid. It's what convinced Oatsmaster that I had to be town. 51 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:57 AM ET (US) Mig can probably get a good feel for his alignment. 50 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:49 AM ET (US) oh that wasn't fake. i felt like shit because I was playing so well and then I accidentally switched the time stamps to my scum role pm and then everybody just said I was mod confirmed town. Then I was getting comments from Koshi saying "Grack would have to be a total asshole to pull that as scum so he must be town." I really wanted to win that game because the only other time I played scum was 2 years ago and I got shit on lol. I had afk teammates so I just lurked. Except Syllogism would call me Mafia for lurking and I popped in constantly with posts like "no wait! I'm just really busy! not mafia!. Syllogism "you don't really seem busy... you always pop in the thread 20 minutes after your name shows up" 49 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:46 AM ET (US) do u like my "O god mason mig he's better" 48 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:45 AM ET (US) That's why I thought you were town LOL "who would claim and then UNCLAIM" 47 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:44 AM ET (US) lol 46 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:44 AM ET (US) Yeah I know ;( 45 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:44 AM ET (US) I guess. I've faked emotions before as scum lol. 44 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:43 AM ET (US) I never had a scum read on him, and that's rare because I usually do on everyone. Also, he openly claimed that Rayn made him feel bad , not want to read the thread, made his opinions not feel appreciated. That's more a town thing then a scum thing. And while it isn't definitive, town emotions are harder to display then scum emotions. 43 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:41 AM ET (US) I don't know if you can just write people off as town for complaining about Rayn shitting up the thread. That could be a legitimate excuse for being afk and it could also just be a fake reason not to post. Supersoft already cleared the way for people to complain about Rayn ruining the thread. Did you have anything definitive for Alakaslam being town? I'm null on him. 42 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:29 AM ET (US) Yeah I can agree with that; we absolutely need to lynch scum today. Scum will lose if we lynch one more of them but we are also pretty close to becoming really inactive. I feel like if me and Mig are shot that town is going to lose. And we will probably both be shot tomorrow if we don't hit scum since you and Austin are both supposedly veterans. 41 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:25 AM ET (US) In fact, we should hassle people who make dumb arguments instead of just sighing and letting them be and call them worse. Like I'm going to push hopeless I think just to see where he goes with his argument. 40 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:25 AM ET (US) This game has taught me that there's not a thing like too dumb argument to be scum. 39 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:22 AM ET (US) To be fair, it's not dumb. Because like SS said, if we lynch scum today which we should, they're down to 1 kp, and I'm a vet and there's an okay chance there's another town doctor. They have to plant suspicion NOW. 38 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:21 AM ET (US) No. I don't think so. But it's hard to fake effort as scum. You surely know this. Like all of Austin's posts are like essay-long diatribes. I don't think I can explain it, but his effort would be less passionate, he would have given up a lot, he wouldn't have pushed Vayne like this. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. But he can't be THIS active can he. 37 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:20 AM ET (US) I have a feeling Austin is actually really good at playing scum. Targeting Vayne does seem really dumb though. Especially if he needs somebody to lynch to save Risen or Coag. 36 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:19 AM ET (US) Austin would be less active as scum? 35 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:17 AM ET (US) Actually I think Austin is town. I can't see him being scum in this. Like the thread would feel different. 34 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:11 AM ET (US) Actually it doesn't really matter, if anything it'll be interesting to see how scum reacts if there are two scum lynches up for it 33 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:11 AM ET (US) Ok I completely agree with you on Oats, but I do think though that Risen and Coag are better lynches. I'm going to look through Oat's filter tomorrow, I want to watch Scarlett-Bomber which I missed as I go to bed. 32 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:09 AM ET (US) I agree he is scum. He was actively lurking the thread and then admitted it. When I brought it up again he started yelling that his power was out and he just created a shit load of chaos at the end of the day. 31 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:05 AM ET (US) lol who cares what Coag says. 30 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 01:04 AM ET (US) SS argued that Oats being RB was the reason for a missing kill. BC would have known that Oats was going to be RB from SS so that is probably not why. I think it is because BC just assumed Blazinghand was a tracker and hit the assassin. It's not even meta really. I like to look at who I think mafia should be trying to kill in a situation and the thread as a whole. In white Flag I singled out the fact that nobody latched on to my Oatsmaster points at all as a reason for why the main case (Hzflank) was extremely unlikely to be mafia. Some mafia absolutely had to have agreed with me on Oats or pushed hard for another person if Hzflank was actually mafia. 29 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:01 AM ET (US) like if I mislynch him, he'll think I'm a worse player. Don't know why I have to justify myself to him guess I'm dumb 28 Pandain 11-24-2013 01:00 AM ET (US) Just so you know I also think Coag is scummy scummer. He's been sooo useless. I'm afraid he might be town because his signature is openly mocking me .27 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:59 AM ET (US) You have good points on Oats. It's meta but good. So Oats had gotten RB'd? Did that do anything 26 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:56 AM ET (US) Not the Vayne part. Vayne is town. And I haven't looked into Onegu. But rayne, yes 25 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:54 AM ET (US) I think Alakslam is town, that post is so genuine and described my thoughts perfectly. I looked through Thrawn. And I'm somewhat conflicted because like his first two days were SO good. Like he was actively talking with BC a lot and that would just be strange to me. I think he's definitely not a lynch for today. But I want to see how he responds to my post 24 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 12:45 AM ET (US) Definitely not a plus there are so many people who just don't give a shit and they can't all be scum. 23 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 12:45 AM ET (US) yeah kp is # of mafia / 2 rounded down. 22 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) Scum had 2kp, right? 21 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:40 AM ET (US) That's why I was suspicious of Austin. The thing against him however is he is literally putting in so much effort. I probably would have switched to Risen had I been around, but honestly with Rayn gone, even though he's town, I still feel like it was a plus. He's the person who pretty much made me not want to read day three 20 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 12:37 AM ET (US) I should probably take a closer look at Austin. His arguments for Vayne being scum are really bad and he did kill Rayne in the very last second. I still can't believe you voted for Rayne... 19 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 12:32 AM ET (US) I know what you mean. Now with a BC flip we should be able to solve this game without too much trouble. 18 Pandain 11-24-2013 12:27 AM ET (US) I'll be back getting food from a nearby mart, will be on phone. I'm analyzing Thrawn and then I'll get right on Oats. Honestly I've not been keeping up with this thread too much . Trying to get into it now that it's more managable with less people.17 Grackaroni 11-24-2013 12:23 AM ET (US) Do you see what I mean? If Oats is town it would make so much more sense for BC to try to kill him than to go after me again. 16 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 11:31 PM ET (US) I'm thinking BC just shot at Blazinghand considering he just assumed my mason claim was true. 15 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 11:30 PM ET (US) BC was masoned with SS the day before and knew that Oats was going to be pushed for being RB. I would think he would try to push that case forward more seeing as he was pushing me purely for being useless. 14 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 11:26 PM ET (US) no to following SS case. I will write my own case if he stays under the radar today. Mostly want to watch what he does for now. 13 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 11:25 PM ET (US) no it's mostly just from looking at BC's filter. Also there was that one post where he said Mocsta was doing scummy things and then ended the post with a null read on Mocsta. Aside from that he's just been completely unnoticeable as of late, which is not something I relate with town Oats. 12 Pandain 11-23-2013 11:17 PM ET (US) Do u have a good case of oats somewhere or are you going by super softs case 11 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 11:13 PM ET (US) What do you think of Oats? He's probably going to be my lynch today. 10 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 10:23 PM ET (US) wait nvm. I thought you were arguing against Risen being scum in that post for some reason. 9 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 10:10 PM ET (US) Wait what. In white flag you were arguing that nobody ever asks to be vigged as town. 8 Pandain 11-23-2013 10:05 PM ET (US) That would be awesome I'm going to go over thrawn before today and see if he is as scummy as he was before now because I had him as town before I'll go over risen. But he was like so martyr y and I never can see risen behaving like that as town. Like if he's town it's never certain that you are scum unless you are super unlucky and pardon scum then are role checked as mafia. I think both are good things 7 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 08:54 PM ET (US) I think I'm just going to treat you like confirmed town so that if you are town we can just wipe out the game. 6 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 08:41 PM ET (US) What did you think of Risen's night time posts? 5 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 08:39 PM ET (US) I agree that looks terrible. 4 Pandain 11-23-2013 08:36 PM ET (US) that thrawn post is like so mafia 3 Pandain 11-23-2013 08:26 PM ET (US) I luv u 2 Grackaroni 11-23-2013 08:24 PM ET (US) it took 4 days in a game with like 100 masons to get masoned but it finally happened lol. 1 marvellosity 11-23-2013 08:22 PM ET (US) Pandain and Grackaroni mason Day 4/Night 4 Upgrade to PRO Upload pictures, personalize your board, and more! About these ads | ||
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On December 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: So I was masoned with pandain yesterday and I dont see the reason why a scum pandain would do that? Like I guess he masons people he presumes weak and can manipulate them. Looking back on it maybe this is it, he is the one that got me off of HF for the time being, and tried to keep me on a oats or mrcc lynch. His reads on HF never changes. HF has a 24 page filter and he calls him scum all game long because he made a kind of strange post about Lonemeow. There is nothing in HF's filter that ever makes him reconsider his read or motivates him to write new points, yet he is so convinced that HF is scum that he is basing scum reads on other people off of HF being scum. His read on Koshi is also very scummy On November 23 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: Koshi calling me out for not posting here much is BS also, it was N2 here and I am VT while it was D1 there I wonder where someone is going to post more? Hrmmm.... And then I had irl stuff and didnt post in either game. I am going to vote koshi as one of my votes I think. This reasoning is basically just omgus. Would Koshi really be more likely to complain about Onegu's inactivity as scum than as town? On November 23 2013 03:35 Onegu wrote: Rayn lets get koshi, Im going to make a case on him now. On November 23 2013 03:39 Onegu wrote: Then why is he trying to discredit me with BS reasons. Also he has changed his reads multiple times also but calls you out for it. I don't get a good feeling from the way that Onegu speaks with Rayn. He was buddying Rayn really hard. He gave Rayn a super strong town read all game and had mainly focused so far on just throwing in a bit of support to Rayn's case on HF. I think he is trying to manipulate Rayn into tunneling Koshi here. On November 23 2013 04:35 Onegu wrote: Give me a bit koshi case comeing but comeing from a tablet its takeing forever. On November 23 2013 05:47 Onegu wrote: Fine Austin, Ill take back koshi for now as I am the only one on him and rereading his filter he isnt as scummy as it thought, but HF has 2 votes my vote stays on him. ##UNVOTE KOSHI ##VOTE RISEN In the end Onegu backs out from posting his read on Koshi. It was clear that going after Koshi would have been a very unpopular push. It's unlikely that he really changed his mind at all from rereading Koshi's filter because as soon as Rayn dies he starts up with the exact same push on Koshi once again. He also has no qualms voting people by himself because he switches off Risen later in the day to Austin and he was the sole Austin voter. On November 23 2013 14:45 Onegu wrote: I did. And that resoning isnt bad its something scum koshi would do to town rayn. As soon as Rayn flips he goes right back to calling Koshi scum once again. The only thing that has changed since his reread is that people are annoyed that Koshi lynched town Rayn. On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote: I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn. BC because of basicly my gut. Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion. He still is never able to write out a comprehensive case for Koshi being scum after all that time. More importantly, I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Onegu's thought process for Risen being scum. On November 23 2013 06:14 Onegu wrote: Man fuck this. youre not dead yet I like that post. ##UNVOTE ## VOTE AUSTINMCC Onegu likes Risen's posts near the deadline and chooses to unvote. On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote: I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn. BC because of basicly my gut. Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion. On November 26 2013 01:44 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE RISEN Supersofts read I should have killed him last night, basicly it was my unvote that killed rayn Also HF thinks risen is scum but doesnt vote for him, when he know a risen lynch will get rid alot of questions on BC wifom, in addition to kill scum. Look here is how I feel right now I laid some stuff down on HF multiple times, I asked for thoughts and even HF called for people to tell me to stfu. Other than HF who I was talkong about, no one else said a word. If I was scum I would be so happy I could just atk someone and look like activity but no one pays attention, but as I am town its really fucking depressing. Im not rayn Im not going to repeatedly shove shit in the thread. But all I hear is HF is town and no one saying a damn thing to me. My post on koshi only thrawn responded. If you think I am wrong give me fucking reasons. Dont just ignore it, I know alot of shit is going on but some people comment on just about everything but my case or thoughts. Austin asks me questions but doesnt actually talk about what I say. He reads it and moves on. Im caught up on everything I have thoughts, they havent changed since yesterday. The next day Onegu sheeps SS on Risen. The best reasoning given for Risen being scum was his meta. He can be useful as town and did nothing. He had an attitude of not giving a shit all game long and then when he got on the chopping block he became super invested. (doesn't really line up). SS added in some connections with BC. However, when Onegu wanted to convince Rayn that Mocsta's filter didn't prevent me from being scum he said that connections weren't important. On November 19 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote: No I had a null to scummy read on him before the mocsta flip, you saying he is town because of a connection to mocsta is dumb imo. Its like you are saying people saying he is scum because of mocsta is dumb, same thing imo with people saying he is town its all WIFOM Onegu has claimed that he does not let connections make much of an influence in his reads and he thought that Risen made good posts near the deadline so he really had absolutely zero valid reasoning for Risen being scum. Let's lynch Scum ##Vote: Onegu | ||
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On December 03 2013 23:44 Hopeless1der wrote: This is what happens when austin isnt around to carry us. Thank god we have a vet. ##Vote: Pandain p.s. I don't believe Pandain is a vet. Hence the singular form when referring to austin's role. Could you not waste your vote? We've all seen your Pandain case and it hasn't convinced anybody. Pandain has posted a lot of things since then so either write something new on Pandain or vote someone reasonable. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:24 Onegu wrote: Yeah none of this makes me scum. Still have a scum read on HF, I can read rayn and koshi pushing him for non scummy reasons was scummy. Also me unvoteing risen and the voteing him the next day isnt scummy, what scum motivation is there to do that? There isnt. There could be scum motivation there. You could have preferred a Pandain lynch to a Risen lynch. Of course it's also possible that you just thought Risen's posts looked good. But there was no massive case on Risen from SS; the most that SS did was give some connections to BC. There is no explanation for why you were content with sheeping that lynch if you liked Risen's posts earlier. You keep saying the same thing. "whoops I should have lynched Risen because it would have saved Rayn", but that doesn't explain why you want to kill him the next day over the people you felt were scummier and weren't making good posts at the deadline. As for Koshi, the way you approached it was scummy. You could have come out with a big case on Koshi and pushed for Koshi but instead you test the waters. When Rayn says no to lynching Koshi you back down. Your reasoning for backing down doesn't make sense from a town perspective because you don't actually care about being alone on a wagon and you start attacking Koshi again for the same reasons after Rayn is dead (despite changing your mind earlier from reading his filter) Why is HF scum? You haven't quoted any thing recently to defend that and it's unreasonable to still believe that off of those LM posts from the start of the game. | ||
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On December 05 2013 03:28 austinmcc wrote: What is the preferred time to lynch coin-flippy players? I'm back for an hour or so. Sorry for today/last night town. I don't want to vote anyone who voted thrawn today. Like, just basic instinct, whole team shouldn't be on him. Looking for someone who was on risen AND pushed against thrawn AND shows some other funky signs (weird change in BC read to vote him, voting for BC early, etc.). Gonna go looking, and am around to chat. I saw the case on onegu, I see the stuff on pandain. If BC is mafia and pandain were mafia and BOTH masoned SS D1, I would THINK that there would be some chat in their logs towards the end of the day about mocsta. Either a small amount of trying to get him to lynch non-mocstas, by calling mocsta questionable but not big scum, or by pushing other reads. If not that, there would be some push in the thread from them for non-SS mayor. Right? I don't see 1/3 of the scum team being masoned with a mayoral candidate who suddenly says he's looking at a scumbuddy, and then them do nothing about it. I guess there is never really a good time to lynch coin flippy players. I prefer to just wait until later and hope they will become less of a coin flip. I hope we can lynch Onegu today. Pandain said to SS in thread that he didn't want to lynch Mocsta and that Mocsta was town when SS started looking at him so I don't think that not being in the mason chat matters at all. | ||
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On December 05 2013 04:14 Holyflare wrote: Yesterday was a good point to lynch coin flippy players........ Today less so, it's 6vs3 so if we mislynch today then tomorrow is pretty much over if we get it wrong. I have no idea who you want to lynch. What do you think about what I wrote on Onegu? I really don't see what is so townie about Onegu's mason chat. | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote: Right? Onegu has been picking two fights this game. Calling HF scummy and LM townie as part of that, and calling rayn townie and sometimes koshi has looked scummy for going after rayn (Onegu's koshi read seems to fluctuate with koshi's rayn read). If you're scumOnegu, one of the guys you've been pushing as mafia just exploded into activity to lynch a dude you're calling town, and you KNOW is town. You can freely double down, your Koshi read keeps flopping, but rayn is SUPER OBVIOUS TOWN (to onegu) at this point, and koshi should know that, so Koshi's attempt to lynch him shows 100000% that koshi is mafia and probably that Pandain or Risen is mafia, and Koshi is trying to push votes away. Bing bang boom. I guess they didn't know whether rayn would get the votes or not, but scumOnegu could have seriously pushed Koshi. The counterargument is....any Onegu should have pushed Koshi? That scum or town, Koshi pushing rayn = scumkoshi to onegu, and he should have hammered that, trying to save his townreads in BC and rayn and trying to push Koshi as a doodyhead. I think what is more telling is the way that he pushed Koshi. He mostly just sits back and tries to direct Rayn to tunnel people for him instead of posting his own case and putting himself out there against Koshi. Mafia can and, in my opinion, often do have static reads. BC is supposed to be really good at scum and he had pretty much the same reads all game long with the exception of adding on Mig to his scum list on day three for shooting the doctor. | ||
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On December 05 2013 08:02 austinmcc wrote: I mean, static reads are fine. That's the problem. Onegu COULD HAVE kept this static read going. He could have HAMMERED koshi for pushing a guy that he knew would flip town (either by lynch or shortly by NK, as rayn was very active). But instead, he's fine dropping koshi and voting me. When he's in the clear to keep his static read AND knows Koshi is about to look very scummy, he's willing to swap his vote. He moved off Risen for having good posts at the deadline (easy lynch for another day) to somebody who was never going to get lynched that day. people didn't agree with koshi being scum for pushing Rayn so he rereads Koshi's filter and changes his mind and states that he wants to make his vote matter (Later moves on to you by himself so he doesn't do that). The next day when people were angry Koshi lynched Rayn and were voting Risen his suspicion goes right back to Koshi and Risen. | ||
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On December 05 2013 08:04 Holyflare wrote: It doesn't matter what he's done in another game because the situations do not translate. Risen was just literally told he was beind bad by martyring and straight up the next day slam does the same thing. He can't even explain his vote off thrawn onto VA. I don't really care about that vote because it was totally inconsequential. If anything I would say scum would be less likely to jump off the train like that knowing Thrawn would flip. | ||
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On December 05 2013 08:12 austinmcc wrote: I know. It's the swapping off Koshi on D3 AT ALL that confuses me. Whether people agreed or disagreed on koshi, rayn was either going to be dead or ALMOST be dead (and probably killed shortly after), adding fuel to his Koshi fire. But he no do. I guess he could have stayed on Koshi but his reason for switching off him is inconsistent and Rayn wasn't actually as far up in the vote list during that attack so it is possible that he was worried about Rayn. | ||
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On December 05 2013 09:38 Holyflare wrote: Back on topic, let's consolidate to someone please. I think slam/onegu/pandain are good lynches to have today. Then go vote Onegu... | ||
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On December 08 2013 10:53 Holyflare wrote: Look at that scummy panda ninja voter because mafia needed to move their vote off of you in case all of the townies swapped to coag in the last minute... | ||
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So what are you even saying? that I'm some kind of a secret mason that masoned Blazinghand day1 and then tried to cover up his lack of masoning anyone else day 2 by claiming to have masoned Coagulation? | ||
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On December 08 2013 11:20 Coagulation wrote: im saying I didnt fucking mason you cause I dont even have the ability to do it even if i wanted. oh ok then. False alarm guys it was a test. Coag passed. | ||
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On November 24 2013 08:38 supersoft wrote: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SCUM HAHAHAHA YOU LOOOSE! BETTER SURRENDER NOW, PUSSYS! | ||
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Thrawn too, bus wasn't a terrible play. In my mind I could not reasonably argue that Risen was scummier than Thrawn against Austin because he was much scummier to me than Risen and I don't make posts that I wouldn't reasonably believe as town. When I am mafia there are usually townies that I actually believe to be scummier than people on my team. Mocsta push was pretty selfish of me. I had no idea he was vigilante. I just didn't do anything all day and wanted to have reasonable scum reads so I agreed with Artanis' case. Mocsta would have moved off my scum list later on. I'm surprised SS even considered listening to my opinion after I called him bad. | ||
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http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/P6mk36MMgMSL3 I was also a scum mason so there was 4 of us. (in case nobody checked roles list) | ||
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On December 09 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Risen was still a free lynch over thrawn all through day 4. As for me pushing you? My day 1 reasons were sound (and given I wasn't going to push you seriously at this point) fine as they weren't a full case. Day 2 I was pissed and thus shitty day for it. Everything I said about you day 3 is actually completely accurate. Now, me bussing you to hell as well as mocsta doing it I think kept you off a ton of radars for ages and thus our deaths insured you living a long time. However. If you go back on day 2 and 3. You and holy spend more time poking at me then most players. Mig and artanis do make comments, but the ones primarily bringing up the "lets off bc" were you two. Or at least that was from my view. Can you imagine had you two been slightly less active with pushing my death? Then add in the play I made day 3 where I almost saved myself at one point? The likelyhood of me surviving the double lynch and leaving mafia with my lynch happening later and thrawn dying later as well would have ensured an earlier win. I am not saying that you guys did horribly but day 1 bussing the mafia 2 shot vig was terrible. That led me into being angry and thus being a tard about it. That led two people to go "bc should be dying for this" and push me to hell. Our bussing got us killed far faster. Yeah you are right about that. I wasn't even aware he was the vig. It wasn't nearly as big of a bus as you made it out to be. I said the case on Mocsta is the best case in thread and then SS happened to listen to me when I said that rather than listen to Artanis' original case...(lol). It's not like I went into the thread with extra knowledge and pointed out any slip up that might have occurred as both you and Mocsta attempted to do. (misinterpreting my post as having extra information/BC ---> "guys I think Mocsta was angry at Grack from being on a scum team with him...") Mig ----> "But Mocsta made angry posts towards other people too..." I definitely could have pushed you less but you refused to make any real analysis. You never actually questioned anything in my entire filter you just kept attacking me for shitty reasons. Attacking Mig for shooting a doctor was no better. If you had started making some logical posts then I could move off but you wanted to create chaos instead. | ||
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If he was scum and it was some kind of a dumb ploy for my town cred town would figure it out. Why would Coag randomly deny a mason qt for no reason. | ||
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On December 09 2013 08:27 Hopeless1der wrote: Thank you to marv and the cohosts. Game was run impeccably as far as I can tell. No mistakes on night actions, lots of reminders, fair warnings. Clean hosting all around, with the minor exception of marv not being around at endgame, which he gave reasonable notice for. I'd also like to commend austin on continuing to play in what has to be the towniest play-style and player in this game. Hats off to you austin, a true example of how to play when you have the veteran role. I actually disagree, I think Austin needs to consolidate his posts more. He was really obviously town but his posts are so verbose that it deters people from reading through his filter, which is a shame because his reads were probably the best of any townie this game. (Led the charge on Thrawn and BC). The filter was bordering on Rayn territory haha. | ||
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On December 09 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Austin continued to put effort into the game when most of the other players had completely tuned out. People didnt need to read his posts thoroughly to understand what he was saying, the jist of it was always there and he oozed town all over. If 1 or 2 other players would have been inspired by him to go try-hard on the game it could have turned out very differently for us. It wasnt meaningless spam or arguments with other players either, it was very often the results of filter dives, and while they were longish posts he didnt take 2 pages to go through 1 filter (See Slam's phone-post shenanigans). I agree with you, but at the same time if you have to convince players like coag that aren't going to put much effort into the game then you really have to do what you can to make them willing to sheep you. | ||
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On December 08 2013 21:18 LoneMeow wrote: To elaborate, it's incredibly frustrating when people complain about "not participating" and all that, when I was trying my best. It's not like I want to be crap at this, I simply don't know how to play better. And saying "you play against your wincon" and "you are shit" does not exactly help me get better. I was also thinking maybe it would be a good idea to make an exception for LM to play a few more newbie games if he would like. Nothing against LM, but if he's not confident enough in his play to post freely in the game when there are a lot of veterans than maybe it would do him some good and make him more confident. | ||
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On December 09 2013 09:49 Alakaslam wrote: Do I look more confident? Then I am very confident in my acting skills yeah you do look more confident lol. Compare: On November 14 2013 00:19 Alakaslam wrote: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HAVE RETURNED /IN to On November 13 2013 23:02 LoneMeow wrote: Let's see how much I manage to suck this time around. /in | ||
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