On November 16 2013 22:46 Sharrant wrote: Sorry, this is going to be slightly list-y but I need a good way to organize my thoughts.
Townies:
Me VE Rayn Yamato Alakaslam Kush (SS and BC, though with some hesitation)
Most likely mafia (least to most): Hopeless1der: His posts about his activity read to me as very flat, and apathetic. I see "Oh, no. My internet is out. What ever shall I do? Woe is me. And now I am the busy. (Hahaha, sweet, I don't have to post)" rather than "Fuck! My internet got cut off for most of that time, and now I'm busy this weekend. This fucking sucks".
He's my weakest mafia read, but strong enough I'm comfortable with his lynch.
BlazingHand: Wants to random lynch Vayne (null), but his filter is made up of only three things: talking about random lynching, making small digs at other players, out of game talk. He has several posts but all he has said is "RNG Vayne, Risen Town". Would lynch in a heart beat because he seems to want to talk about anything but the game in progress.
(HolyFlare/LoneMeow): I've thought HolyFlare looked scummy for most of the game, but this post:
On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:45 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Yamato reveal the secrets your masonry keeps hidden from the rest of us. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LONEMEOW!!!
he wants to know what I think about rayn
i haven't really invested much time paying attention to rayn
That usually pays out in the end man. Is that it? Like, just asking you about rayn? Do you think he's town or scum based on your interactions?
there's not much to base it off of
honestly, with how super and I talked about it earlier, I think LM is town and it's not worth fretting over
I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.
Reads as very townie to me. (I haven't checked if it's true yet, that's for later) but it makes me pretty confident in a LM lynch if it's true, or an HF lynch if it's not. (In the case that it's true AND LM flips town, I am left unsure of what I would think of HF, but probably still townie off of that post.)
@VE Aside from the fact that you want to lynch me I'd be inclined to vote for you. So please ask me whatever you'd like so you can realize I'm town, and move on to lynching mafia.
Elsewise I'll have to go with someone I'm not as confident in.
Please stay active. I like your posts so far.
Did you even read the HF/LM part, and by his posts reasoning that should be his strongest scumread.... How can you like this post or are you being sarcastic. Thats it right sarcasm?
I mean the other parts. Sharrant doesnt look like scum to me. That's what i mean with good.
On November 17 2013 03:56 OOHCHILD wrote: i still want to vote for bc or ss vet-dick-ride style
so why don't you do it? Oh man, i don't know if you guys are scum or just terrible townies.
yet another game where it's almost impossible to separate poor play from scummy play.
It should be obvious to you why I wouldn't vote for you at the moment.
For me it really isn't so tell me.
On November 17 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: That post is terribad supersoft. You probably won't acknowledge it though for one reason..
you mean that post? I don't know what you're talking about. If someone is convinced, that either BC or I are better mayors than VE and yamato, he should vote for us and not for them. Period.
Yo, elect me pardoner or mayor, but probably pardoner cuz VE is mostly okay unless he keeps his cards as close to his vest as he has been right right right up until the very end. Assuming he actually gets a little more talky with a little time to spare, he's a fine choice.
WHY YOU WANT ME ELECTED?
I'm generally active. Especially after D1s, and I don't usually peter out in the endgame, but get rather spammy and talkative and try to work things out. You want me alive for that.
I promote good thread atmospheres, which is a good thing to have around, and I ask the hard-hitting questions other mafia players aren't man enough to ask.
I'm town.
I asked about factional numbers cuz I wanted to know how many mafia there are. Mafia know this already. Yes, this is not particularly strong.
You want a vest on me. I want a vest on me. I would like a vest. Plox to give.
Also, I think yamato is town but I'd like the vest instead of him. Gimme gimme! + Show Spoiler +
He backtracked on grack and BC, what looked like two early decent-size scumreads, at times when scum didn't need to backtrack on those and call them town, and when scum could EASILY continue to call them both scummy. There's no real reason for him to do so as scum, mild townie points.
I also liked this piece of one of his "caught up with threads list of thoughts" posts -
On November 15 2013 19:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Risen, why do you read Yamato VE as scum? Both are nearly universal town reads so far and I don't find them particularly scummy. It worries me that you haven't tried pursuing them when thread sentiment is in their favour.
I think Rayn is scum. His nitpicking on HolyFlare's open post feels awful to me. HF's post was clearly not alignment indicative. Mayoral campaigns was something everyone had in the back of their minds when they signed up for this game. Obviously you'll already have thoughts of how to write it down. Furthermore there's lots of things stating the obvious. Don't like the ignoring of Risen either. Says he doesn't like people needlessly antagonizing others then proceeds to do it himself.
I've got an opinion on the Mocsta vs Storrzerg thing but I'd rather give him a chance to respond first and see where it goes. Also hate Mig's opening post. More stating the obvious and no followup so far.
I'll also support any supersoft lynch on the base of him being a dick.
I don't exactly think rayn is mafia, but I can get behind everything else said in this post, and also subsequent posts. Super's play is strictly worse than attempting to be as neutral as possible.
Read the post, broke it down, agrees with this, disagrees with that, comes off more looking like he is reading and examining what others write, and not reading so as to find things to poke at.
As far as the couple people that have posted suspicions of me: + Show Spoiler +
For anyone suspecting me because of questions, my mindset today is to poke around at a couple folks and see what I think about them. Assuming I don't get elected mayor, which I didn't think I would given I never pushed early or really pushed hard at all, it's 120 hours of game before there's a lynch.
I have risen pretty townie based on his responses, and I wanted a read on risen because usually his analysis is decent, I know he wants to win games, and I'd like to be able to trust what he writes from the start (a lot of this stems from the recent Aperture game (i think that one) where he was 3P but tried hard to carry town one day so he wouldn't lose the game as 3P. I liked that).
I poked at rayn because I fought with rayn in Cop Sandwich Mafia, but I didn't see his pandain read and, if he's townie, I want to examine reads where he and I differ. Poked at sharrant just because sharrant was easily pokeable, and I liked his response to hiro's early post. Poked at onegu because he had one extraordinarily townie post imo, and one really scummy post imo, and I wanted to harmonize and see what I actually thought he was (super townie for his post on super explaining that he didn't want a mayor who was willing to create a bad atmosphere and scummy for his early post on holyflare, felt like one of those "yeah, i'ma find this guy scummy too, let's just go through his whole filter and call out random stuff without really creating any kind of compelling narrative!" posts).
Some of the lack of followup is time, some of it is people not getting around to answering for hours and hours. It derails any kind of conversation feel and that's what I want. Don't worry oats, I will examine you later and peer into your soul and we will chat and I will know your alignment.
On November 17 2013 03:56 OOHCHILD wrote: i still want to vote for bc or ss vet-dick-ride style
so why don't you do it? Oh man, i don't know if you guys are scum or just terrible townies.
yet another game where it's almost impossible to separate poor play from scummy play.
It should be obvious to you why I wouldn't vote for you at the moment.
For me it really isn't so tell me.
Are you delusional? It's because you have literally no chance of becoming mayor. unless someone influential pushes it very hard (not me. I have not even caught up yet). In which case I would join them in voting you.
That is the worst and scummiest reason i've ever seen. So you don't want to be in the minority for a couple of hours, therefor you just join the majority? That's incredibly opportunistic and scummy.
Sock head > sock is like soccer, which is known as football = football head
Also the first word of the post is "hey" and you know who is referred to by "hey, football head!" that's right, it's Arnold from Hey Arnold. And you know who Arnold is?
Yes that is right, I am the tracker, don't lynch me, you are all jubjubs for even thinking about doing it, especially you Yamato
That is not a breadcrumb are you dumb. The fact he even said it was a breadcrumb is so bad
On November 17 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta does dumb cases all the time as town. That does not make him scum.
His first case on Storrzerg was weak as shit. I say it's flimsy and then he moves on to me. He immediately eats the Spaghetti just because he thinks his anti-VE mayor view point will be perceived as unpopular. He is scum.
On November 17 2013 04:20 Koshi wrote: What are you doing rayn?
Voting for yamato for mayor Telling people who is scum (your posting got a little better, maybe i am just wrong about you). Telling yamato to kill Holyflare
On November 17 2013 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Austinmcc,
I like the method you use to garner reads in asking specific questions to players, asking others to take looks at things you found interesting and seeing if they come to the same conclusions. However, it doesn't give any information regarding your alignment. I believe you're able to do this as both town and scum. What bothers me is the lack of conclusions in your resume. In your opening statements, you question Rayn, Risen, and Sharrant. Later, you question Onegu and Koshi, and ask StorrZerg a few rhetorical questions. Then you start pressuring BC a bit but it doesn't really go anywhere. You never make yourself a strong town presence when you clearly have the wit to do so, and have put in enough time to know what you're speaking of. It feels like you're being more of a thread coach than an actual presence yourself, which is a position more favourable to scum than to town as you can duck responsibility, so I had you as a minor scum read until now. Engaging in this back and forth does help as I feel it helps give me more insight into your personal thoughts on players, but I can't help but wonder if your involvement in it isn't triggered by realizing that there is town sentiment that's swaying against you and that you need to be less lazy. I'm fairly null on your position, with a slight lean towards scumminess right now.
My return question is: Why did you ask me to give my thoughts on you? Did you want to analyze my thought process, or give yourself an opportunity to rectify whatever people might see scummy in you, or is it something different?
I had you mildly townie early for your posts at rayn, asking him why HolyFlare would "lie" about rayn having called risen town, when really there's no reason for a scum player to just straight up create lies and then back them and argue for them. That's really, really bad scum play, doubling down on lies that serve no purpose. You made that post before I did, and I find that train of thought townie.
You've had a number of other sensible posts, and I just want to poke around you a little more, see whether I like what you said about me or not.
On November 17 2013 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: no supersoft i meant the Sharrant post that says absolutely nothing and you think it's really good.
I said it's good, not really good and i said with good i mean looking town. Is something wrong with your eyes or what.
Can you tell me what taht post actually says?
holy moses, can you please shut up. wtf are you trying to do here. Wanna say I am scum for looking through the filters and out the people in the thread, that have only one filterpage? Sharrant is the least scummyperson of the persons that have only one page. Am I scum for having that opinion or what? you're so annoying. Doing nothing. Sitting in this thread, and chatting with that koshkoshguy, you fail to analyze seriously, even though you were a hydra with him. Get out of my way.
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