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On November 18 2013 23:54 OOHCHILD wrote:
gratz you guys have successfully made it nearly impossible for anyone but yourselves to read the whole game. well done.
there's literally no way BC is going to have the time to catch up, and it's way harder to read someone who doesn't read.
So please rayne koshi artanis everyone knows you are all town. Stfu and let other people talk please, and if you have something to say, CONSOLIDATE your thoughts.
rayn has 17 filterpages. i have 7 and I am talking a lot.
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On November 19 2013 04:37 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what do you think of supersoft? He waffled on some bullshit balancecrap earlier on today, then said he'll look into BH and disappeared. SS has done a bunch of stuff I have been suspicious of. Everyone says he is an amazing analyzer but I haven't seen him put in effort and do much of it (oats stuff is ok tho). That being said, he said he was probably going to kill Mocsta right at the end of the day if VE didn't come back. There is almost no way mafia would do this and throw away a 2kp vig for a day1 lynch. Unless he knew VE was coming back I have a hard time seeing him as mafia.
A bunch of stuff? Like what? I wanted to kill mocsta and i was one vote away from doing it/10minutes away from doing it.
and rayn, please stop dump nonesense in this thread. It's extremely annoying. You provide nothing. All you do is demanding masons to claim and creating wild theories about trollBH.
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On November 19 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread?
I am going to report you. You asked me this TWICE now. TWICE! in only a few minutes. I haven't read any filters yet. I have a life and I don't spend 24 hours in this thread posting oneliners. Your filter is unreadable. Your filter has the length of an average newbiegame.
I read my filters yesterday evening for about 2 hours of my valuable time. I came up with mocsta as my final lynchtarget and in the night i read through filters and found Oatsmaster, who i am highly suspicious of.
I am creating more useful stuff than anyone else here. I am organising the game.
Look what I did at the end of d1. Everyone was analysing and we had a PERFECT town atmosphere. Now look what you did to the thread! It's a MESS!
Think about that! please!
I am going to read through BH and others. But not when you expect me to.
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On November 19 2013 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 05:10 supersoft wrote:On November 19 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread? I am going to report you. You asked me this TWICE now. TWICE! in only a few minutes. I haven't read any filters yet. I have a life and I don't spend 24 hours in this thread posting oneliners. Your filter is unreadable. Your filter has the length of an average newbiegame. I read my filters yesterday evening for about 2 hours of my valuable time. I came up with mocsta as my final lynchtarget and in the night i read through filters and found Oatsmaster, who i am highly suspicious of. I am creating more useful stuff than anyone else here. I am organising the game. Look what I did at the end of d1. Everyone was analysing and we had a PERFECT town atmosphere. Now look what you did to the thread! It's a MESS! Think about that! please! I am going to read through BH and others. But not when you expect me to. I was the one that actually made the case on Mocsta, don't go taking credit for that.
I didnt read your shit. And you weren't even close to get elected and kill him. So I keep my credit okay?
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I actually think Grack is town, regardless what mocsta said about him.
Grack switched his vote on me when I said i'd lynch mocsta. At this point of time, i was one vote away from mayor.
+ If VE would not have shown up, i would have killed mocsta.
That move would have been incredibly risky if Grack really was scum. Remember, Mocsta was a 2 shot Vig. No scumteam wants to sacrifice their 2 shot vig. That doesn't make sense.
Just read this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=104
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I _still_ have an issue with Oatsmaster:
+ Show Spoiler +First piece of evidence:On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.
If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.
BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand
I see yamato. I see. Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion! Second piece of evidence:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=allone million questions, no follow-ups. Only oneliners, no opinions on anything. Questions are mostly pointless. If he has no serious notes, he's scum Third piece of evidence:
This line of posts seem extremely fake: On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah yeah I think VE is town.
On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?
How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually. On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
what the fuck VE.
What the fuck.
I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now.
On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN
Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies. WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum? Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly. VE isn't scum and he knows that!
Fourth piece of evidence
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2
On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
looks the same to me.
yeah. I think so, too
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504&user=Oatsmaster
huge difference: Posts with actual content in between the massive amount of oneliners. See for yourself guys.
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.
and this is a lie.
Fifth piece of evidence:
His defense:
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.
ad hominem
On November 18 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 14:02 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 18 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im sorry what hopeless? Why am I scum? Can you put it in your own words? A few sentences? And say how you are different from me.
I dont understand how Im full of shit. Explain that too.
Why am I scum? Explain that first please. You havent done jack shit and you sheeped SS's case on me without bothering to rephrase anything. Rephrase the points you agree on Hopeless.
more ad hominem.
And most important: He doesnt try to explain each point individually. He just takes the weakest point of what I said about him - the oneliners - and says he does that every game.
No explanation why he voted Yamato,
No explanation why he thought VE was assassin and not scum.
And finally, even his defense was a lie, since he doesnt play like this every game.
OATSMASTER is scum!
##vote: Oatsmaster
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+ I am not convinced that BH is scum. I skimmed his filter in hogwarts, and yes looks kind of similar. But his towngames don't look much different either. He's a good policylynch because of his shitty fakeclaim but yeah: I want to give him another day, we can lynch him when VE activates the doublelynch d3.
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+ if mig is town, he's only a shadow of his former self.
Mig was like an Idol to Palmar and me
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On November 19 2013 07:37 OOHCHILD wrote:ss if oats is scum, dont you think this quote is weird?? Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait.
why not? he just points out 3 possible scenarios and casts confusion? he doesnt take any stance, does he?
On November 19 2013 07:41 OOHCHILD wrote:
furthermore I find your case against Oats completely unconvincing. You cannot say his meta is to try harder, because how hard you try usually depends on external circumstances. I think big games like this make it more likely for town to lurk because it's so much harder to keep up and have relevant ideas.
I agree on that, but I think it's not only that. I think - what i pointed out above - that oats refuses to take any position in his scumgames. He just asks questions and makes short comments that say nothing.
In his towngame he did the same, but in between he took positions.
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On November 19 2013 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Oats is scum because he voted yamato (who flipped town) mayor and called VE assasin?
On November 19 2013 07:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
oats isn't scum. assassin at best.
guys. I really appreciate any constructive critisism. But I don't know what to respond to this.
Can you just point out what I am missing?
Please some text. This is nothing personal. I just want to lynch scum and I have no problem, if I am wrong right now.
Just tell me what you think.
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On November 19 2013 08:01 OOHCHILD wrote:
Let me just clarify. I dont think the quote is scum on scum because in a way it's tooscummytobescum. As scum he probably wouldn't take such a blatantly ambivalent stance on his scumbuddy.
Okay, now i get it, but hasn't exactly this happened a lot in the past?
If I read games after the flips, I am always like: "Woa, this is so cheap, how could we not see this."
I think we overlook some things because we don't try to get behind the statements enough.
yeah, you're right, if you're scum and you control what you say, you probably don't comment on a scumbuddy like this.
It's really scummy.
But in the situation, you're just chatting around a little, you might slip like that. Just saying... I don't think Oats is town because of that.
At best I think this statement is 0.
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On November 18 2013 10:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:16 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait. So classic chainsaw defending oats is back in town. Gg too easy. Nice attempt to belittle my case. Storrzerg is an experienced player. Far from lynch bait. Want to have another go and explain why you disagree with my findings. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game. Oats, shy are you so prickly this game. Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous. Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E who talks like this to their scum partner though...if oats is anti-town I doubt it's scum.
hmm no, i think these comments are short enough... Mocsta is ballsy enough to do that.
He's just softly attacking Oats. He just says he's angry and shy etc.
Not enough to rule out a scum/scum conversation in my eyes.
On November 19 2013 08:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya VA is like totally town. VA thank you for being very obviously town this game.
agree on that one btw.
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On November 19 2013 08:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Double-Lynch-Mode: Activate
I'm gonna read up on LM. My biggest issue is that Yamato died. That makes LM look really bad right? So why would scum do it? Like WIFOMsauce or whatever, but it just seems like a really dumb shot for scum to take if LM is scum.
excellent. <:-)
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On November 19 2013 08:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey super
Who do you want me to mason tomorrow out of:
VE
BC
yourself
We don't talk in thread about who to mason. I expect you to choose wisely.
The fact that there might be a suicidebomber out there who kills me regardless of my vest makes me sleep uncomfortable!
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On November 19 2013 08:50 Mig wrote:
super do you think I am scum or just bad?
don't know. This doesnt even match your worst scumgame... I reread some of the old games, and i can see why you're not playing this one :-o
Back in these days we thought Kurumi was a troll... now look at all these grackaronis and blazinghands....
We thought Palmar posts a lot... Now look at rayn... He easily triples the amount of posts Palmar had back then :-o
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Btw guys. I am pretty confident, that coagulation and BH are our assassins.
Shoot eachother n2 please, but don't bother our business!
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On November 19 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote:
Btw guys. I am pretty confident, that coagulation and BH are our assassins.
Shoot eachother n2 please, but don't bother our business!
You can now claim and battle this out like men.
Face to face.
mexican standoff.
Do it.
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On November 19 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Uh SS.
Why is your case so bad?
1. How is me calling Hopeless useless ad hom?
2. Ive said why I thought VE was assassin.
3. Why would i vote for assassin and not obv town?
you haven't said why. You contradict yourself all the time
you called him an assassin AFTER the lynch.
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On November 19 2013 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 10:56 supersoft wrote:On November 19 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Uh SS.
Why is your case so bad?
1. How is me calling Hopeless useless ad hom?
2. Ive said why I thought VE was assassin.
3. Why would i vote for assassin and not obv town?
you haven't said why. You contradict yourself all the time you called him an assassin AFTER the lynch. I dont see what difference it makes when I sayit in thread. You want to know why I thought Yamato was obv town?
what? you called VE assassin, because of the person he lynched!
How did you know before the lynch, that skanjab is town?
lol. You're digging your own grave right now
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