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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 17:08 GMT
#7181
Oats ain't no mafia based on his D1. Lots of back and forth with mocsta. When I say hiro was my top town read ( hiro = thrawn = mafia), oats get all up in my biznass. He doesn't support hiro's plan, he thinks i'm dumb for finding hiro townie, says hiro is null. LOOK AT HIS POSTS, SCUM PROBABLY DON'T DO THIS? He can say I'm wrong on Hiro, and Hiro's plan scummy (cred later). He can say, oh ya, I love me some hiro (maybe get a scumbuddy a little cred). Instead, he only interacts with ME, and tries to convince me that I am wrong - + Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wgere did mocsta go.

Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin..
On November 15 2013 13:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I get totally different conclusions than you from his filter Austin.

First post was a joke and probably something pregame. So thats null.
Next post null.

Last post, what happens if scum get shennined into the mayor because scum fucks up? I dunno about you, but I do not feel comfortable with giving scum a scum favored role.
Its much better to just get the top 2 townies into those 2 roles.
On November 15 2013 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Btw austin, its been suggested in the 2 mayor games Ive played so far, i assume its not a new thing. Anyway, its not that bad for scum if a townie gets the pardorner and then gets lynched. Its way worse if a townie gets pardoner and is totally town and will never get lynched.
. That line of posts = muy townie.

Oats is constantly asking for information. Who played with rayn and is he playing similar. Oats thinks risen is paranoid as town, questions rayn when rayn says risen paranoid as both alignments, can rayn show proof?

Oats says pandain looks better for calling LM town, when a scum mason could have "counterclaimed" and tried to throw suspicion. That's a slightly odd thought process in a multi-mason game and with masons of multiple alignments, but I find that a townie way of getting a read.

Goes around yelling that VE doesn't care about lynching scum and is the assassin. Funky thing for mafia to run around saying? Mafia HAS NO DOG IN THE FIGHT, therefore, they want to make sure the mayor doesn't lynch them. VE, who wanted to lynch 800000 townies, is a GREAT mayor for mafia. I don't think mafia want to shed doubt on VE or call his lynches townie, they're cool with his election.

Interacts with thrawn D2, questioning a koshi read. Not a distancing thing if he's scum, like scumoats would have done with scummoc, but just a question and a minor chat. Pesters thrawn, why, if thrawn think BH is town, is he not trying harder to prevent a mislynch? THIS IS TOWN IMO. HE FOUGHTIFIED WITH MOC, NOW WITH THRAWN? TOO MUCH. TOO MANY FITE. MOREOVER, SCUMOATS DOESN'T PICK THIS FIGHT I DON'T THINK.

He also fights with Pandain, when Pandain says BH looks townie for his claiming and unclaiming and urrthang. Oats is ... critically thinking about BH, his alignment, and his interactions? Oats thinks BH looks scummy for the claims, but wonders why Thrawn isn't fighting to save scummyBH. That's a legitimate, townie question to thrawn then, not trying to get BH not-lynched somehow.

Oats also MAEK FITE ON BC when BC gives that schpiel about mocsta fighting with grack, therefore them being scumbuddies. Calls BC scummy D2, THEN DOES NOT VOTE FOR HIM ON D3. You can spin this scummy, but I read it townie. Whereas thrawn went townBC --> scumBC with weak reasoning and part of catching him is seeing that, Oats was scumBC --> notvotingBC. Oats has GREAT reason to vote BC, he pounced on BC's treatment of the meta the hardest.

Oats is town. Don't lynch him. Read his frigging filter in its entirety and look at his interactions with flipped scum and try to give motives for his interacting like he does.

Y'all is being bootyfaces. He is town.

I have NO EARTHLY IDEA why oats wants to lynch SS over BC D3. He was pushing BC somewhat D2, SS gives his whole "I'm a RB and BC can't be scum cuz oats is scum" thing, and I can understand that messing with reads, but I do not see scum oats going so hard at scumbuddies and then swapping away and deciding people are town suddenly when it comes down to it. Why "distance" himself from BC if he's not going to get the cred with a vote?

He defendsish thrawn on D4, despite having some slight words with thrawn D2.

Oats recently has been doling out a couple townreads that make it....difficult to win if the scumteam isn't VA/oats.


OATS HAS SOME REALLY WEIRD VOTES LIKE THE NO-VOTE BC AND THE TRYING TO VOTE RISEN OVER THRAWN. BUT LOOK AT HIS FRIGGIN EARLY GAME. HE'S VERY INTERACTIVE WITH MOCSTA, THRAWN, AND BC, AND GENERALLY CRITICAL OF ALL. HE COULD LYNCH THEM (ESPECIALLY BC), AND RIDE DA CRED TRAIN. BUT HE DOES NOT. AND HE IS ATTACKING SOME VERY GOOD THINGS IMO ---> BC'S CRAP ON MOCSTA/GRACK, HE ATTACK, OTHERS NO ATTACK; THRAWN'S NOT SAVING BH, HE ATTACK WHEN MAFIA DON'T CARE.

I DO NOT LIKE OATS LYNCH.

I LIKE CC LYNCH.

##vote: Mr. Cheesecake
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 17:11 GMT
#7182
Lunch quick.

Oats, why is CC town/a bad lynch?

Also, what in the things I mention makes coag scummy?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 17:11 GMT
#7183
Also, please don't be mafia, I'm feeling good about my oats-reading streak.
Fe fi fo fum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2013 17:19 GMT
#7184
I'll try to put some time in today, but I probably wont get back before deadline. Voting CC because I have oats as town and I'll never convince anyone to lynch Pandain.
##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 17:20 GMT
#7185
Actually if CC didnt start playing the game I would disagree but the last 24 hours man. Tryhard CC = scum CC.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 17:25 GMT
#7186
On December 02 2013 01:42 austinmcc wrote:
Reading coag then oats. Just to try and find stuff.

Coag town imo. Doesn't try to get BC elected D1 at all, calls him town, yes, but whatevs on that. He doesn't really try to push anyone off BC on D3 either, calls him town but no effort into saving.

He ... is mostly inactive but gets really, really active when he thinks people are super lying - grack about himself, and then the pandain/SS situation. I actually like that, just gut read is that those are things that might pull in someone not overly paying attention, and he's consistent in getting active whenever someone appears to be lying.

N3, coag randomly says to lynch thrawn/oats if he dies. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY HE SAYS THRAWN HE HASN'T MENTIONED THRAWN AT ALL AND THAT IS VERY CURIOUS!?!?!?!?!? IF HE WAS MAFIA HE KNOWS HE WON'T DIE AND HE DOESN'T WANT THRAWN LYNCHED ETC. ETC. LIKE THERE JUST ISN'T A REASON TO DO THIS AS MAFIA, GIVE A FAKE DEATH THING AND ONE THAT WILL LOOK A LITTLE WONKY?

Then he's cool with risen OR thrawn lynch, wants oats, but doesn't care between the other two. I don't understand why he goes lynch thrawn if I die --> thrawn neutral --> vote thrawn if he's mafia. He doesn't need to, and ... he KNOWS that he's gonna start catching some flak and maybe get lynched soonish. Why does he go wonky like this? If he's trying to protect someone and die in their stead, maybe, but scum doesn't WANT to lose anyone.

Then he's really concerned about why Mig wants to lynch him if Risen flips red. Scum coag knows risen won't flip red, probably doesn't care so much about that? + Show Spoiler +
On November 26 2013 15:10 Coagulation wrote:
what the fuck.

why the fuck would you go after me if risen gets flipped red?


. Yeah, sure, scum dont' want to get lynched or suspicified, but scumcoag knows this doesn't matter. And instead of calling mig out on this read, this statement, whatever, trying to make himself look a little better or get mig to update a read, he doesn't really interact with mig afterward. Imo, less trying to save his mafia skin and more just wanting to know why mig was going to lynch him, legitimate townie question?

On to oatstown!

So he gets active when he is questioned/sees something easy as fuck to call out. Scum are reactive, townies are active. Like if the thread is going super well mislynching town, then why try and push anything at all, just dont do anything/defend yourself. Seems to me like textbook mafia play.

He calls thrawn scummy outta nowhere to get cred I feel, like if either coag or thrawn gets lynched, the other will look a lot better. Like here. So yeah there is a reason to start calling thrawn scummy. Look at the thread sentiment going into the thrawn lynch day. Everyone wanted to lynch Risen, it looked SUPER hard for anyone else to get lynched, why not start the bussing now and maybe if thrawn was getting close to lynch, then he could jump on it.

The last point is not really alignmnet indicative, its a question that doesnt make sense at all so why not ask Mig what the fuck he is doing?
No gg, No skill.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 01 2013 17:33 GMT
#7187
On December 02 2013 02:08 austinmcc wrote:
I DO NOT LIKE OATS LYNCH.

I LIKE CC LYNCH.

##vote: Mr. Cheesecake


Huoh. Guess I'm wrong again.

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 17:36 GMT
#7188
Phone.

He doesn't call thrawn scummy out of nowhere for cred. He randomly says to KILL thrawn, then calls him null, then says he's convinced and votes, relatively early IIRC.

Scum coag could maintain a hrawnscum read for cred, but CANNOT get much cred by flopping shoot.

Scum coag could wait and see on thrawn, whether I was gonna push and push and maybe get peeps off risen.

Scum coag could do a whole lot of sensible things, get cred, try to save buddy, just not vote buddy w/o try and save. Instead, he says to kill thrawn if coag dies, then calls him null, then votes him. He basically criss crosses.the two things it seems scum would want to do in this case, does only part of each.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#7189
At the very least oats, why in balls does scumoats go from conditionally lynch him for no reason to null to lynch?

It's not a wait and see plan. It's not gonna look good if/when thrawn flips (risen right, thrawn would probably be lynched next day if not d4). But he does that.
Fe fi fo fum.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 01 2013 17:48 GMT
#7190
All right Im fine with this

##UNVOTE
##VOTE MRCC
Try TL Mafia!!!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#7191
The problem with your theory Austin is you forget who oats is and that he busses. He came about of several games known for distancing and now you suddenly call him town because he was "suspicious" of scum.

Did he ever do anything with that?


Noooo lolllll he wanted to actually lynch SS and risen instead
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#7192
Talk doesn't mean someone is town if they don't follow up
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 18:08 GMT
#7193
What is with that 180 LM? I support a CC lynch, but you think Im scum? How does that work?
Also wtf Onegu?

Austin, scum dont always play rationally, not that town do either but in this case, I think its far more likely that Coag was bussing thrawn than he really though thrawn was scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 18:08 GMT
#7194
I get what you are saying, like why not go balls to the wall either way
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 18:08 GMT
#7195
On December 02 2013 03:06 Pandain wrote:
The problem with your theory Austin is you forget who oats is and that he busses. He came about of several games known for distancing and now you suddenly call him town because he was "suspicious" of scum.

Did he ever do anything with that?


Noooo lolllll he wanted to actually lynch SS and risen instead

Yeah that makes me town.
No gg, No skill.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 01 2013 18:11 GMT
#7196
On December 02 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
What is with that 180 LM? I support a CC lynch, but you think Im scum? How does that work?


austinmcc is town. He says you're town. Therefore I am wrong.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#7197
Doesn't mean he's right
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 18:14 GMT
#7198
Yeah that doesnt really make sense LM.

Pandain, explain how me not bussing makes me scum.
No gg, No skill.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 01 2013 18:16 GMT
#7199
On December 02 2013 03:12 Pandain wrote:
Doesn't mean he's right


I have far more confidence in him than myself.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2013 18:18 GMT
#7200
Sounds really really scummy to me.
No gg, No skill.
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