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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 30 2013 05:53 GMT
#7121
Alak I had no idea what you just said tbh.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 30 2013 05:55 GMT
#7122
I'm honestly curious though how you saw the whole Risen fiasco and still decided to martyr I can't get that out of my head.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 30 2013 06:08 GMT
#7123
On November 30 2013 14:55 Pandain wrote:
I'm honestly curious though how you saw the whole Risen fiasco and still decided to martyr I can't get that out of my head.

The situation under which I martyr is different (I may still do it) as it is highly likely I will be super scummy (as in, no one scummier) and still survive. At lylo, I become low hanging fruit and we lose.

The whole strong I wrote earlier is my general thought process over the course of the game.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 30 2013 06:10 GMT
#7124
On November 30 2013 15:08 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 14:55 Pandain wrote:
I'm honestly curious though how you saw the whole Risen fiasco and still decided to martyr I can't get that out of my head.

The situation under which I martyr is different (I may still do it) as it is highly likely I will be super scummy (as in, no one scummier) and still survive. I haven't got solid reads like Risen had. At lylo, I become low hanging fruit and we lose.

The whole strong I wrote earlier is my general thought process over the course of the game.

EBWOP
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 30 2013 07:39 GMT
#7125
On November 30 2013 14:01 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote Onegu
I dont see how people have a problem voting here. Stop waffling and put your money where your mouth is.


Your "read" on onegu is pretty bullshit. Never even mentioned him before last cycle; what happened to your forever top read Coag? I'd like to hear why you think onegu is scum

My forever top read coag voted for Thrawn, he can stay alive for at least another day. How are you not following the logic I posted earlier. There must be scum on Risen, and its not Alak and me.
No gg, No skill.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 30 2013 18:23 GMT
#7126
I am thinking hopeless might be scum also.

Hopeless makes a case on pandain that really, really reads forced to me, he does this after rayn made a case amd didnt mention pandain in his filter prior to his case.

Then he tunnels pandain the rest of the game without doing much of anything else.

Yes he voted BC and thrawn, but he was late to the party on both of them. There was no way he could have saved BC, as he said he had a town read on rayn and couldnt vote him. And again was late on the wagon with thrawn.

Now look at this post about LM and coag

On November 24 2013 13:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
i trust you the most right now since you appear to give a shit about continuing to play the game, so for that your read of LM as town gets sheeped by me. However, LM has done next to nothing this game so its only because I don't have a better reason than "lurking" to call him scum that I choose to ignore him. The game is over 300 pages, and he still has 3. One hundredth of the thread is LoneMeow. Thats fucked. If it was LYLO, he'd be under consideration but for now, forget about him.

Coag is as about as useless as LM, but with double the filter.

I agree that thrawn looks scummy based on the past couple pages. More suiciding onto Grack makes no sense though, so I'm hesitant. I'd be willing to lynch thrawn today, at least over Risen (but not over Pandain).



They should be under consideration if it is lylo, but not now. How does this make any sense at all.


Also in Hogwarts as town he had zero cases that looked anything like his case on pandain, and he had one case in WC2 mafia and it looks so much more thought out, compare for yourself

Hopeless case in WC2 as town.

And since tunneling pandain has voted risen and disappeared without a trace.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#7127
I am out most of today. For people who check in, I would like to hear thoughts on Cheesecake and VayneAuthority.

Specifically, look at cheesecake's filter, it ain't huge, and gimme some thoughts. Then look at what I said or anyone else has said about cheesecake, and see if your thoughts match up with those, or if you feel differently, and then say why. Reading and writing, no 'rithmatic involved.

Also, you should look at Vayne's filter. Then look at my jumbled up basic thoughts post on VA, specifically addressing the "keeping bomb on BC in order to get around any mafia medics --> no need to lynch BC, my bomb will kill him" point.

You should do these things instead of martyring or posting about Star Trek (TNG fo lyfe). You should do these things instead of not doing things. Please please please. I am sorry for not being around much last couple days, but I should be back to active tomorrow, once family and festivities are done.

But seriously, even if you want to lynch A or B, it's worth actually talking about some other folks. I know there has been discussion on Coag and Oats, and this is Good, but I would like to look at Cheese/VA instead. I don't want to lynch Oats, based on his D1, but I will reread because his current play is not his D1 play.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#7128
Oh and I don't really want to lynch Onegu either. In our D3 mason chat, LM asked me to look at Onegu, and I posted as to why I found him town. I will reanalyze that, but his filter looked really townie to me at that point.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 30 2013 18:48 GMT
#7129
On December 01 2013 03:31 austinmcc wrote:
Oh and I don't really want to lynch Onegu either. In our D3 mason chat, LM asked me to look at Onegu, and I posted as to why I found him town. I will reanalyze that, but his filter looked really townie to me at that point.


I think you're very wrong and I'll show you why later.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 30 2013 21:19 GMT
#7130
On December 01 2013 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 03:31 austinmcc wrote:
Oh and I don't really want to lynch Onegu either. In our D3 mason chat, LM asked me to look at Onegu, and I posted as to why I found him town. I will reanalyze that, but his filter looked really townie to me at that point.


I think you're very wrong and I'll show you why later.



Cant wait.

Ive put you on the back burner for now, but I am still going to show everyone why you are scum.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 30 2013 22:17 GMT
#7131
Page one, cheesecake filter

End of story

We found our scum pholks

Why vote anyone else

##Unvote

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 30 2013 23:30 GMT
#7132
Austin what exactly would be the motive from that perspective? So BC gets one less vote, great. That isn't saving him. Instead you should look at my close to record-setting VT rolls and realize why I would want to be able to use my PR for once. Only s0lstice and one other person I think have a higher VT roll rate then myself before this game.
I come in for the scraps
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#7133
Onegu is 100& mafia. His case on me was so bad and opportunistic.

Right now im at mig/pandain/holy/vayne?(claim w.e.) town. Onegu mafia. Maybe coag. maybe slam or oats.idk about austin. grack likely town imho only paranoid shenannies are had.

It's interesting there is doubt among an onegu lynch, i figure if he was town mafia would gang up on him at this stage. Anyway, i wish i jad more time but i work lots weekend, retail, blacl friday/holiday stuff. I suggest onegu lynch. look at his post on me sooo bad. If he is town i facepalm.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 00:07 GMT
#7134
On November 21 2013 23:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
And if SS is town then Oats is probably scum, yeah? Because dat roleblock obviously hit mafia KP and it wasn't a gosudoc/double stack.

On November 24 2013 10:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We're following SS's list.


What happened to this line of thought


On November 24 2013 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I want a formal massclaim tomorrow, actions and all.

Dont fakeclaim as town. I want to count the blues and see whats what


Well, did you do anything. Actually now it seems pretty anti-town. I never saw you follow up on this.

You also put way too much effort into your "If Risen is town" post considering you were extremely confident he would be scum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 01 2013 00:08 GMT
#7135
Who is going to read cheese filter and know he is scum? Doit phuulish 1 lol.

Rea cheese filter

Read cheese filter
Read cheese filte
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 00:09 GMT
#7136
I read the filter.

I think Oat's is more suspicious.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 00:10 GMT
#7137
Cheesecake did offer to lynch away from Risen on the last day.

He voted Thrawn early on(I think he made it 4-6 still in favor of Risen), so he was one of the deciding factors.

phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 01 2013 00:13 GMT
#7138
Vote Count:


Oatsmaster (2): Pandain, Alakaslam, Coagulation, Pandain

Mr. Cheesecake (1): Alakaslam, Pandain


not voting (9): Onegu, Hopeless1der, Grackaroni, VayneAuthority, austinmcc, Mr. Cheesecake, Holyflare, LoneMeow, Oatsmaster


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
Oatsmaster ist set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 00:23 GMT
#7139
Slam you need to stop posting and then disappearing
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#7140
Vayne you still haven't explained why you think Oats is town because you've been pretty useless the last two days.
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