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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 25 2013 19:26 GMT
#6341
Agreed with mig. Also, why are you making towncases instead of cases on scum? It seems to me that a LOT of your argument for why I'm town boils down to WIFOM.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 25 2013 19:28 GMT
#6342
Mig also has a point about how I should be working on the cases and I haven't been. I'll get on that.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 25 2013 19:29 GMT
#6343
work on learning how to read while you're at it
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 25 2013 19:29 GMT
#6344
nice zero follow-up after making you look like a retard again tho, x2
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#6345
Thrawn

Enters the game as a replacement, but DOES NOT WANT A SUMMARY OF WHAT HE MISSED D1. He goes after my nuts, while not having read, and while saying he doesn't want the play by play of D1 that he asked for. He is "scumhunting," without reading the thread, and without doing other townie stuff, like reading a summary. He is "scumhunting" for cosmetic effect only

THRAWN WAS MASONED WITH BH AND BH CLAIMED ASSASSIN AND CLAIMED NOT TRACKER AND THRAWN DID NOT FEEL IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO REVEAL THIS STUFF TO THE THREAD WHEN BH'S ALIGNMENT WAS A RELEVANT ISSUE. WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THIS, HE RESPONDS WITH STUFF LIKE - + Show Spoiler +
On November 18 2013 14:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
you'll recall i scummily cited "internet problems" and "the weekend" for inactivity excuses. I'm sorry I havent been furiously typing away making the be-all-end-all case of the century. Oats is full of shit and I wouldnt mind seeing thrawn flip atm. But thats rage and indignation talking, not a real scumread. I'm going back to filters.


lol u mad? or you mad?

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 14:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 18 2013 13:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hi thrawn, how is BH town?


uh I'd assume one becomes town by getting a town role pm

I've already explained why but I'm tired of doing so. He told me something in regards to his tracker claim that made me think he's town, and I'm gonna leave it to him to decide if he wants to share that with everyone else. I don't really trust people on TLmafia not to lynch him for what he told me lol

BH get in here this is annoying

lol come on dude. Dont you feel a responsibility to prevent what you think is a mislynch??


lol ok holy shit. bh told me he fake claimed because he knew he'd be busy soon and didn't want to be lynched. now personally I believe that, and I don't think a scum BH would actually say that to me. objectively it looks super scummy so that's why I didn't want to use that as reasoning for my BH town read, because i fear people here are dumb enough to lynch him for that.

so don't.
LOOK AT THAT.

HOLY SHIT, WHY ARE YOU ON MY NUTS OATS AND ASKING WHY I DON'T WANT TO PREVENT A MISLYNCH? CUZ ALL TOWNIES WANT TO SIT BACK AND HIDE INFORMATION WHEN THEY THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING MISLYNCHED, RIGHT?

BH TOLD ME HE FAKECLAIMED TO AVOID A LYNCH (PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS IN THREAD A BUNCH AND THRAWN HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT IT), BUT I DON'T THINK SCUM BH WOULD SAY THAT. EXCEPT OBJECTIVELY, IT TOTALLY LOOKS SCUMMY SO I DIDN'T WANT OT TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT.


Thrawn throws little softball questions to BC, prodding BC for more mocsta analysis and supporting what BC provides - + Show Spoiler +
On November 18 2013 13:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?

And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish


Thrawn is sniping at hopeless a bunch, about hopeless's alignment, his play in past games, etc. This is D2. The main issue is not HOPELESS. The main issue is BLAZINGHAND. Thrawn is sitting on relevant information to the LYNCH, and instead he's sniping at hopeless about hopeless's activity.

Pandain, who he's spent a bunch of D2 poking at and ends up his tippy top scumread, gets a "lol at least you're honest about it" for not having opinions on more than 2 players. Thrawn finds me scummy for this. Again, same thing happened, thrawn reacted to it differently when different players did it. Why the difference? (Cuz it's all made up!)

Thrawn is INCREDIBLY sure that BH isn't scum. He's just arguing all D2 that BH is not scum. He KNOWS BH fakeclaimed. He KNOWS BH has been doing jack all. He refuses to share his QT at this point. Why is BH so clearly cleary town, and why isn't thrawn posting logs to stop BH's lynch? Because thrawn doesn't care! Thrawn knows BH isn't scum because...thrawn is scum! And when thrawn ultimately reveals BH's comment, it's just BH saying he's not really a tracker but doesn't want to be lynched. Thrawn accepts this completely, despite not being around D1, never seems to question it, just decides scum BH wouldn't say that, no way no how.

On November 20 2013 06:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.


supersoft! ignore everyone else. if you really think that rayn is cluttering up the thread then stop talking about him

You thought BH was assassin before I posted his claim right?

Do you still think this? Why aren't you trying to save him? Oats is probably not getting lynched at this point. The only other two viable lynches seem to be pandain and bc.

A pandain lynch would make me a happy thrawn. I might be willing to consolidate on BC but it's not likely unless he's the only alternative to the BH lynch. I really liked his analysis of the mocsta/grack situation and there's been a few other times where his thought process has lined up with mine.

lol actually no i'm not lynching BC. imo he's the towniest out the vet group and I distinctly remember marv participating in a heated discussion about balancing teams


can everyone on BH look and panda and grack one more time?
What is this what is this? I might be willing to consolidate on BC, but not unless he's the only alternative to BH. I really liked his posts and his thought processes lined up with mine. NOPE, not lynching BC, he's the towniest of the vets. THRAWN TYPES THAT HE WILL LYNCH HIS TOWNIEST READ OUT OF THE VET GROUP AND A GUY WITH GOOD ANALYSIS AND THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS AS THRAWN. WHAT IS THIS COMMENT? Even when he says "actually no, I'm not lynching BC," WHY WOULD IT EVER CROSS HIS MIND TO LYNCH BC WHEN BC IS HIS TOWNIEST READ IN THE VET GROUP AND HE SEEMS TO BE SUPER IN-LINE WITH BC?!?!!?!?!?

Thrawn is super-hammering how "not-red" BH is. Asking people do they think he's x or assassin. Saying pandain weird for calling BH "deserving" of a lynch, saying Pandain knows BH will flip "not-red."

I push him for his read on BC, and he puts it off, but NEVER gets to it - + Show Spoiler +
On November 21 2013 07:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 07:48 austinmcc wrote:
On November 21 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
hi austin
Hey thrawn!

Can you talk to me/us about your BC read?



ask me every question you can think of regarding all things BC and i will promise that I will give you my exhaustive analysis tomorrow

i got stuff to do + this game is annoying me so much i don't want to put any more thought into it atm

. BC is, again, his TOWNIEST VET. THEY HAVE THE SAME THOUGHTS. But thrawn cannot expound upon what it is he likes? He can't just, off the top of his head, tell me why his towniest vet is so townie? Gotta wait.

On D3, when thrawn reappears, he now "doesn't know" about BC. He continues to say BC was convincing and on the same page as thrawn was. But he NEVER EVER PROVIDES SPECIFICS. And now, his towniest towniest vet, is completely different in tone and questionable solely because of a conversation with mig. Queue thrawn pestering BC, and then being unsure of BC's answer, kinda not liking it.

thrawn ATTACKS ONEGU for NOT EXPLAINING HIS BC READ. When thrawn has been doing the same. When thrawn's read 180s on D3, just because of ONE of BC's conversations.


LOOK AT THE TIMING OF HIS BC STUFF AND HIS VOTE:
  • votes BC at 9:14. 46 minutes to lynch.
  • Why? Dunno. Last he said about BC was he wanted BC to answer a question of his about mig. i.e., he thought BC was town, he wanted to talk with BC about x, BC HAS NOT SPOKEN YET ABOUT x, thrawn votes BC
  • 9:38, BC responds. Thrawn asks again, what is your read on Mig. Does NOT CALL BC SCUM/MAFIA/WHATEVER. Makes no comment about BC's alignment WHATSOEVER
  • 9:48, 9:58, is posting in his other game
  • DOES NOTHING IN THIS GAME FOR THE LAST 22 MINUTES OF THE DAY WHERE HIS TOWNIEST VET WAS GETTING LYNCHED AND HIS READ MAGICALLY CHANGES ON THAT GUY DESPITE SAYING HE WANTS ANSWERS FROM THAT GUY
  • 15:11, attacks onegu for not explaining his BC read and not saying enough about a main lynch candidate. While completely ignoring the fact that he, himself, NEVER SAID BC WAS SCUMMY AND DIDN'T WAIT FOR AN ANSWER TO VOTE AND ENTIRELY CHANGED HIS MIND BASED UPON WHAT APPEARS TO BE NOTHING AT ALL




to anyone who is not convinced. How does townThrawn hide stuff from town about BH that way, not find it relevant? Why does townThrawn refuse to explain in detail his towniest vet read on BC? Why does townThrawn vote BC D3? Seriously. That last question is the only one you need.

Why does townThrawn vote BC D3? Cuz if you can find or come up with ANY explanation for it, I'm all ears.
Fe fi fo fum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#6346
risen, you were almost 100% on HF being scum before. What happened to that read?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:33 GMT
#6347
VA, I know you liked thrawn's early play.

But please, explain to me his BC vote. BC was super townie. But he has to wait to provide strong reasoning, can't just put it in thread. On D3, BC now looks questionable because of attacking Mig, he wants to know BC's thoughts there. Instead of waiting on a response, he VOTES BC. Then later, he gets thoughts, and says pretty much jack about BC. Then he attacks Onegu for not saying enough about his BC read.

Please to 'splain.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:35 GMT
#6348
On November 26 2013 04:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
well mig is obviously tunneled into oblivion.

austin what do you think are the chances that hiro didnt realize both mayor and pardoner get vests? I seem to remember someone else having the same issue but I cba to find it right now.
Entirely possible. Heck, I didn't realize it at the time.

It's not why hiro/thrawn is scum. But I hate that I missed this at the time, that I was townie on hiro for that set of posts, and only later remembered them and realized his plan is ... pretty bad.
Fe fi fo fum.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
November 25 2013 19:36 GMT
#6349
Vote Count:


Risen (8): Mr. Cheesecake, VayneAuthority, Pandain, Risen, Koshi, Mig, Holyflare, Graclaroni, Alakaslam, Onegu

thrawn2112 (2): austinmcc, Holyflare, Hopeless1der

Pandain (0): Hopeless1der

VayneAuthority (2): thrawn2112, Alakaslam

Alakaslam (1): VayneAuthority


not voting (3): Coagulation, LoneMeow, Oatsmaster


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
Risen ist set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:42 GMT
#6350
And for all of thrawn's "I DIDN'T PLAY D3 BECAUSE THE THREAD WAS SHITTY AND PEOPLE WERE SPAMMY AND I COULDN'T CATCH UP", he voted a dude that was his towniest vet read the day earlier and the guy he always agreed with.

Thrawn says he couldn't catch up and the thread was impossible to read/follow, but man, he sure completely changed his mind about BC with very very very little to no explanation. He was "disgusted" that we would lynch BH, but he had NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER with a bunch of people voting BC, his towniest vet, on D3.

Read his D2. STOP LYNCHING BH HE IS NOT SCUM STOP LYNCHING BH HE IS NOT SCUM. Read his D3. BC MIGHT BE SCUM I WANT TO SEE HIS ANSWERS. Never tries to get people off. Never tries to give reasons why people shouldn't vote BC. Says he's waiting for BC's answer, but goes ahead and votes BC anyway, and barely comments on BC's actual answer.

Thrawn attacks grack today for calling him scum and pushing his lynch, despite never making a case. Grack is voting risen, and does not appear to be pushing the thrawn lynch at all (but he should!).

Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 25 2013 19:47 GMT
#6351
On November 16 2013 02:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.


dude my issue is I played with him near the beginning of TL mafia. My issue isn't his content it was the clear misrepresentation of his status. Hes not a newbie and hes trying to play on that to get elected. Why manipulate people into giving you something instead of proving yourself worthy of it.



I found this weird too btw. Koshi and BC have zero play history together but koshi says "don't worry BC will come back strong" and then he makes a big shitty post and then koshi says the above, even though it was a terrible post (to me anyway)

would love to hear that one explained by koshi rofl.
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 19:54 GMT
#6352
The guy is a vet. I had big hopes.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:58 GMT
#6353
Koshi, would you care to comment on thrawn? I see you like a risen/thrawn lynch today, but you haven't really said why.

You've...never really said anything about him, actually. Except that he shouldn't play 2 games if he can't keep up, and that he should sheep your rayn vote.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 25 2013 19:58 GMT
#6354
Did thrawn mason pandain? He didn't mason me (not really surprised). If so I wouldn't mind looking at their chat logs.

I still think there is likely to be another mafia mason for balance reasons. We have pandain/hf/lm/thrawn/austin left. Thrawn/LM seem the most likely candidates.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 19:59 GMT
#6355
On November 26 2013 04:58 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi, would you care to comment on thrawn? I see you like a risen/thrawn lynch today, but you haven't really said why.

You've...never really said anything about him, actually. Except that he shouldn't play 2 games if he can't keep up, and that he should sheep your rayn vote.

Pretty sure I was telling rayn that thrawn was playing pretty bad. But rayn defended him because he looked townie in the Mason. Then I told him that thrawn looked shitty in the thread though.

Apart from that. I am not really feeling a thrawn lynch over a Risen lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 19:59 GMT
#6356
On November 26 2013 04:58 Mig wrote:
Did thrawn mason pandain? He didn't mason me (not really surprised). If so I wouldn't mind looking at their chat logs.

I still think there is likely to be another mafia mason for balance reasons. We have pandain/hf/lm/thrawn/austin left. Thrawn/LM seem the most likely candidates.
I'm not a mason.

I was masoned by HF D1.
I was masoned by LM D3.

#notamason
Fe fi fo fum.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 25 2013 20:00 GMT
#6357
Oh I keep mixing that up. Which mason am I forgetting then.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 25 2013 20:02 GMT
#6358
Oh nm not forgetting any super/bc/skan the other 3. So pandain/hf/lm/thrawn.
Moderator
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 20:02 GMT
#6359
On November 26 2013 04:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 04:58 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi, would you care to comment on thrawn? I see you like a risen/thrawn lynch today, but you haven't really said why.

You've...never really said anything about him, actually. Except that he shouldn't play 2 games if he can't keep up, and that he should sheep your rayn vote.

Pretty sure I was telling rayn that thrawn was playing pretty bad. But rayn defended him because he looked townie in the Mason. Then I told him that thrawn looked shitty in the thread though.

Apart from that. I am not really feeling a thrawn lynch over a Risen lynch.
Okay. Would you care to comment on thrawn and why?
Fe fi fo fum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 25 2013 20:03 GMT
#6360
Who did Thrawn mason before Pandain?
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