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Pandain
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Grackaroni
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On November 24 2013 15:34 thrawn2112 wrote: Grack it's stuff like this: This is what you did during D1. You trolled around "pushing" the kush for mayor lynch when iirc he didn't even want to be mayor, and in case he was town probably would have been one of the worst mayor candidates. Starting from that post in your filter there are several more afterwards where you talk about wanting kush for mayor but none of it looks like you ACTUALLY want him in that position... it's just trolling. Yamato pressures you to actually do something productive and you respond with this: This is what I'm referring to when I say Grack's trolling is a means of deflection from actually having to contribute. Yeah I absolutely love the Kushm4sta and sometimes I do things purely for my own enjoyment. If there was anything really telling at the start of the game I would have commented on it. You make it sound like everybody is asking for my opinion on people and I just deflect but that isn't the case. You can ask me whatever you would like and I will give you a serious answer. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On November 24 2013 13:19 austinmcc wrote: I notice you really poked at onegu's votes, which are, indeed, kinda awful. Do you think his play as a WHOLE is scummy? Is the rest of his play townie/null, but the votes are just so bad that he's scummy? I just read through his filter... and no, I don't. There are a few posts in particular that feel really genuine, like this one: On November 18 2013 02:28 Onegu wrote: And I feel I am playing this game better than witchcraft, which is why I feel people who have played with me often should have scum reads on me lol. It looks like an honest assessment of his play coupled with some good awareness of how other people should view him... it looks a lot more like a post that comes from a town mindset than from a scum one. A lot of his filter feels like that. His response to me about his D3 votes was that he wasn't voting on real lynch candidates because he thought all of them were town. It could just be a convenient position he set himself up for but after reading his filter... I don't think that's the case. | ||
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Pandain
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Pandain
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That or mig. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On November 24 2013 15:36 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I absolutely love the Kushm4sta and sometimes I do things purely for my own enjoyment. If there was anything really telling at the start of the game I would have commented on it. You make it sound like everybody is asking for my opinion on people and I just deflect but that isn't the case. You can ask me whatever you would like and I will give you a serious answer. Testify, brotha, testify. I remember you settin' aside my blues early. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On November 24 2013 15:39 Pandain wrote: Thrawn you should mason me by the way if you want. That or mig. yeah actually I think I may do this | ||
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Pandain
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thrawn2112
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On November 24 2013 15:36 Grackaroni wrote: You can ask me whatever you would like and I will give you a serious answer. Lets do this. I want 100% srs answers from you from here on out. Let's start with your current read on me because I have no idea what it is. You've made these posts since D4 started... On November 24 2013 09:47 Grackaroni wrote: There is actually an enormous difference between Thrawn's filter in this game and in Witchcraft II which I followed loosely. It doesn't help his case that BC was trying to use my filter in White Flag to incriminate me and never pointed this out. On November 24 2013 10:49 Grackaroni wrote: This part in particular reads really fake to me considering he made like 60 posts in the other game. ... but you have yet to actually say anything along the lines of "lets lynch thrawn" or "I think thrawn is scum and here is my case." So what is your objective with these posts, because it looks like you're just trying to push along my lynch without actually having to be outspoken about it? | ||
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Pandain
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And if not, even if its possible, if you instead could find someone else as scum. | ||
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Pandain
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Grackaroni
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On November 24 2013 15:49 thrawn2112 wrote: Lets do this. I want 100% srs answers from you from here on out. Let's start with your current read on me because I have no idea what it is. You've made these posts since D4 started... ... but you have yet to actually say anything along the lines of "lets lynch thrawn" or "I think thrawn is scum and here is my case." So what is your objective with these posts, because it looks like you're just trying to push along my lynch without actually having to be outspoken about it? I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people. There is actually somebody else that I am watching very closely that I don't want to mention yet. I don't like the fact that you were so sure Blazinghand wasn't mafia and that you had me as a scum read for "attacking Blazinghand because he attacked me" I even gave some credit to BH's case because I understood trolling is something that BH would try to do as mafia to avoid suspicion. I attacked BH when he scum claimed to me by making fun of his fake claim breadcrumb. I distrust people who avoid one game while being active in another and your reasons for lynching me are the same as Bloodyc0bblers, yet you still seem to think that is somehow valid. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: Why do you think Risen is town btw? I find his martyring quite un-townlike, and especially unlike a town risen I don't think I've ever played with risen. I do remember hosting GoT where he was town and had an bad game and spent a lot of time going "woe is me" in the thread. On top of that I've seen so many goddamn town-martying on TL lately that I basically consider it a town tell now. Here's what I thought about his play during the D3 lynch: On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. Can you provide links to show what you mean by "I find his martyring quite un-townlike, and especially unlike a town risen? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On November 24 2013 10:29 VayneAuthority wrote: Actually risen is potentially a horrible lynch for today. just found this gem oh my oh my. and this bc/slam interaction looks scum on scum btw, not that anyone will actually give a shit. i just want to join the obs already zZ grack comment on this and convince me that risen is still a good lynch and slam is not. | ||
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Pandain
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VayneAuthority
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Pandain
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1. Martying. Vayne, you hate martyrs. Now factor in the fact that it's Risen who is known to be really stubborn and play against odds(alone in WHC), and his solution is to ask for a town vig despite the fact that two have already been revealed? On November 23 2013 05:08 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And once again your appeals to "that would be crazy!" are horrible if you're town, horrible if you're scum. Get on my level kids. World Heavyweight Champion OUT! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media0.giphy.com/media/149R89yoMrIFgI/giphy.gif) 2. He thinks I'm mafia. I was pretty easy lynch-bait because I was quiet, but there weren't any real good reasons for voting me; at least not that he brought up. His arguments were trash and based around SS logs, which didn't make any sense. This post so bad On November 19 2013 16:56 Risen wrote: Gut read. Haven't really read the thread. Scum did a good job clogging it up. I'll read up tomorrow and back up my gut read. Sum of the gut is pandain's interaction with people. 3. On November 21 2013 10:22 Risen wrote: Pandain #1 scum read Grack policy lynch I can be convinced to vote for someone not pandain (though I'll have to see something more) but will not be unvoting Grack.. but then later On November 21 2013 10:28 Risen wrote: Super is probably scum so... So scum lynch is inferior to policy lynch? | ||
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thrawn2112
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On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: Thrawn not to be rude, but again you didn't answer my question of do you think its likely that the two scum both had grack and PUSHED grack. ...yeah that's a good point lol On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: And if not, even if its possible, if you instead could find someone else as scum. I'm working on this, give me some time. Previously I had suspected both you and Onegu but I changed my mind about ongeu and you've been willing to converse with me in a way that makes me think you're actually trying to figure out my alignment. I'm still in the middle of reading the entire thread and I'll be dropping cases on who I want to lynch after I'm done. | ||
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Pandain
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On November 24 2013 16:01 VayneAuthority wrote: then I don't think you are town honestly if you believe that quote "means nothing" One of you and austin is scum and you guys arent making it easy. That quote does mean very little and I'm sorry to say that. If you base your instincts on Risen being town based on how BC critizied him early in day one for something BC is known to hate, then I think there are key things lacking. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On November 24 2013 15:55 Grackaroni wrote: I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people. There is actually somebody else that I am watching very closely that I don't want to mention yet. I don't like the fact that you were so sure Blazinghand wasn't mafia and that you had me as a scum read for "attacking Blazinghand because he attacked me" I even gave some credit to BH's case because I understood trolling is something that BH would try to do as mafia to avoid suspicion. I attacked BH when he scum claimed to me by making fun of his fake claim breadcrumb. I distrust people who avoid one game while being active in another and your reasons for lynching me are the same as Bloodyc0bblers, yet you still seem to think that is somehow valid. But what is your actual read? Not "I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people" because that doesn't say anything about how scummy you think I am compared to anyone else. Am I your top read? Close to that? Give me a definitive answer. | ||
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