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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 14:40 GMT
#4179
On November 20 2013 23:39 OOHCHILD wrote:
Anyone have any reasons why LM is town?

Basically no, not any more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 14:46 GMT
#4180
On November 20 2013 23:33 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 23:02 OOHCHILD wrote:
@rayne
thanks for that summary on what went down d1. Actually it was really helpful even though I don't think it's as conclusive about ss's alignment as you do.

I am null and very conflicted on ss.

Having a lot of weak scumreads is pretty common at the end of d1. So that is not a point against him.
Why did he even give so much attention to the possibility of lynching mocsta when he really didn't have to? He had so many possibly lynches that I don't see why scum SS would have put himself into that position.

I don't know. I really don't. But that's not the point. Because i can't know what was going on in his mind.
My point is his actions do not make sense. His though process does not look townie at all. He lets his scumreads tell him who to lynch or look into (lol), he doesn't reall seem like he even wanted to lynch Mocsta (why, if he was his top target?), he does not tell VE to lynch Mocsta (why, if he thought Mocsta was the best lynch?), he tells VE Skan lynch was decent, then says it was bad (why sudden mind change?), then he drops all his scumreads and makes a half-assed case on Oats (why? did his all scumread suddenly turn up town?).

If you read the list can you see a townie thought process behind it?
Would you filter random people over your scumreads?
Would you listen to your scumreads on who to lynch?
10 minutes to the lynch, you are not sure who you want to lynch and you're filtering people. Would you post in thread while filtering? About other people than who you are filtering?
Would you do that if you were in supersoft's position?

Because i would not and i can't find any townie motivation / explanation to his actions.


If he was town I know exactly what was going on in his head. "Fuck I have to decide on a lynch and I have no idea who is scum!" I probably would have acted in a very similar way.
You have to realize that his scumreads were very weak leans, so that's why there was no contradiction in him considering their input.
He didn't even really want to lynch mocsta: yes that is because he wasn't sure about it. Even though he said he believed mocsta was scum, obviously he was still very uncertain that mocsta was a good lynch. He believed it, but wait.. then again... we've all been there. Mocsta is a hard trigger to pull d1 because if you are wrong town loses an active asset.

And that skan thing? That argument holds no weight. Acting like a hypocritical asshole does not make you scum. The green flip and also the extra time he had to think about it made him realize the lynch was bad. Also he said "I guess" so that indicates that he wasn't so sure about the skanjab lynch.

Okay kushmasta.
Let's assume this is true and regardless of alignment that's what went through supersoft's head (while it's contradictory as it can't be true if he is scum ^^).

What do you make of the rest of his play? Did you look at his case on Oats? Is it good?
What else has he done? Does he look like a town leader he's supposed to be? He even said it himself on D1. Hell the guy has a vest, scum can't even kill him unless they doublestack him. Does he look like a townleader to you?

If we assume your scenario is true then it comes to this:
  • Had no real scumreads on D1
  • Made a fucked up case on Oats
  • Bitched about rayn posting
  • Raged on BH lynch (which he said was necessary anyways)
  • Failed to take part into any discussion after N1
  • Has given some half-arsed comment about random things and people


Sounds like a town leader guy? Hell fucking Hopeless has put more effort in this game in terms of scumhunting than supersoft has.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 14:51 GMT
#4181
Oats are you around?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 14:57 GMT
#4184
On November 20 2013 23:54 OOHCHILD wrote:
basically all that, his lack of leadership, can be explained by not putting enough time into the game or not reading the game, circumstances facilitated by your d2 spamfest.

This sounds like the hardest defense ever but actually it's more like I can see him flipping town very easily and here's why.
I could also see you being right and him flipping scum.

I haven't even read his filter yet lol. Which i can't do now because I have to go.

I find it very hard to talk to you.
He promised to be a town leader! The dude said :
On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote:
okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1.

On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

..as his first posts in the game!

Then he goes "YOLO no actually i don't wanna play the game".
really kush? REALLY? That's your suggestion?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:02 GMT
#4186
Well if that's your attitude in mafia games i'm sorry but you will never find scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:12 GMT
#4187
Koshi could you do the Koshi/Lonemeow log posting asap please?
I would prefer if also the people who are going to die tonight are able to read the log and give their opinions about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:21 GMT
#4189
On November 21 2013 00:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
im kinda around. Playing dota.

When you got a chance could you talk to me about Spaghetticus?
I am wondering why was he killed. He seems like an odd kill considering all he did was to accuse VE who was not scum, i don't know is there a reason to assume he was blue (i guess that's why he was killed). Do you know who in this game have played with him before as he hasn't been playing here much?

Also i am pretty sure Lonemeow is scum.
He asks people about me (i was his scumread on D1), but then he tells Onegu he thinks me - Holyflare argument was town-town. That does not make sense considering he had me as a scumread after the Holyflare argument. So yeah, i have a pretty strong scumread on Lonemeow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:34 GMT
#4195
On November 21 2013 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think think spag has played more than 5 games so he certainty wasnt blue sniped off meta. But it was a bluesnipe for sure. There are plenty of other targets that draw attention away from BC and super other than not so active Spag.

Do you know if he has played elsewhere with people?
I am trying to wrap my head around the kill but i just can't understand it. If i was scum in this game i would definitely not have killed him, i would have let him tunnel VE on D2 because VE gets angry and his judgement will be blinded. There must be some VERY good indication he was blue and that means there must be SOMEONE who knows that guy well in the scumteam.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:53 GMT
#4201
Okay nevermind, Spghetticus had a strong scumread on Mocsta at the end of N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 15:59 GMT
#4202
Alakaslam you need to explain this in detail:
Everyone insisted he was SCUM, which I knew he couldn't be and that is that!

What made you so sure BH could not be scum?

Koshi how does that mason log make LoneMeow town as you said earlier? Also why are you not asking him anything in your mason chat?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:01 GMT
#4203
tbh the mason log could aswell be from scum QT rofl. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:14 GMT
#4206
Koshi how long after D2 start did LoneMeow ask you about Sharrant?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:20 GMT
#4208
Okay so LoneMeow is scum 100% confirmed!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:23 GMT
#4209
On November 18 2013 20:54 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't help but notice that two of the three scumshots were people critical of VE (Yamato, Spaghetticus). StorrZerg doesn't count since it was the only shot Mocsta could make if he wanted to claim, and even he wasn't positive about VE. I'm not sure if it's a set up or if we should be looking into our mayor with a lot more scrutiny than before.


I could perhaps buy yamato and Spaghetticus being shot because they looked extremely towny, but why was Sharrant shot?


10 hours into D2 LoneMeow wonders why Sharrant was killed.

30 hours into D2 LoneMeow says he did not realize Sharrant was dead.

100% lying.

LoneMeow is mafia, 100% guaranteed!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:24 GMT
#4210
Now Koshi the question is, why are you so fucking sloppy if you are town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:28 GMT
#4212
"Maybe he forgot". That's like the only thing he has talked about on D2?!?!?!?
Seriously dude, are you scum? Because your mason log looks like a scumchat. All you do is tell LoneMeow how to look more town to people..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#4216
Coments like this:
Koshi: Really don't understand why you don't post in the thread. So scummy.

Koshi: I know you also played extremely lurky in LXI. You need to post otherwise people will always think you are scum. It's how it is.

Koshi: Btw, Vayne thinks you are scum and he is looking townie. You might want to mason him tomorrow.

I have a hard time believing you are talking to someone whose alignment you don't know...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#4217
On November 21 2013 01:33 Mig wrote:
Pandain can you post your mason chat with super? It completely convinced you he was town would be nice to see.

I am extremely interested in their talk around D1 lynch deadline.
+1 to this!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#4218
Mig thoughts on austin, supersoft and LM?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 16:56 GMT
#4220
LoneMeow - scumslip 100%
supersoft & austin - really sure about them for what i have said
Koshi - not perfectly sure, if he is town he is damn sloppy which he normally is not
Alakaslam / BC / Risen - Slam (weird "i know BH was not scum" anddoing nothing), BC (weird anger on D2 and some bad reads), Risen (his lynch list on D2 which was terrible - but he could somehow be town too meh..).

If not all of them, some lousy lurker like Cheesecake or Mattchew.
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