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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#5341
On November 23 2013 05:05 supersoft wrote:
Risen, if Mig, BC and I were scum together lol
beautiful theory, has nothing to do with the thread.
I believe you just went through the playerlist and copy pasted a few names together you thought might fit

austin: ofc i didnt alter any logs.

You are correct about what I did.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#5342
EBWOP: And once again your appeals to "that would be crazy!" are horrible if you're town, horrible if you're scum. Get on my level kids. World Heavyweight Champion OUT!

+ Show Spoiler +

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Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#5343
On November 23 2013 05:05 supersoft wrote:
Risen, if Mig, BC and I were scum together lol
beautiful theory, has nothing to do with the thread.
I believe you just went through the playerlist and copy pasted a few names together you thought might fit

austin: ofc i didnt alter any logs.


what do you think of pandian calling you a liar?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 22 2013 20:12 GMT
#5344
Pandain, will you finally stop ignoring me and explain what happened with your scum read on me? Where did it come from, and where did it disappear to?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 22 2013 20:12 GMT
#5345
On November 23 2013 05:05 supersoft wrote:
Risen, if Mig, BC and I were scum together lol
beautiful theory, has nothing to do with the thread.
I believe you just went through the playerlist and copy pasted a few names together you thought might fit

austin: ofc i didnt alter any logs.
So in other words, these statements are entirely false?

On November 22 2013 13:25 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
On November 22 2013 13:20 Pandain wrote:
What incriminating information do i have against me


You just lied to us and tried to frame another player for the lie?


Supersoft didn't put my real role in the thread. I don't know why he faked it, but I'm grateful because for all you know I'm a tracker and so I get shot.

He is town
On November 22 2013 13:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 13:51 Coagulation wrote:
pandain..

SS LIED?


Yes but for town benefit



Fe fi fo fum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:18 GMT
#5346
A final note on SS's mindset in what he just said to me. It shows a very scum mindset from SS to expect me to have a concrete scum list to lynch into. The nature of being completely vanilla means I don't have outside information, so I have to give town general guidelines to work from. Scum has killed off just about everyone who had credibility or was willing to build cases. The people that are left seem to be easily led/don't care much about the game/have done really scummy things like troll, lie, be retarded.

I feel like I've been prodded to put in a little more effort so lynch these people no matter what townies: Supersoft, Pandain, Holyflare. After that work through the list/see how the game has developed. Can't believe other townies and I are reading the same game. My scum reads on ss/pandain have literally nothing to do with their interaction with me. HF comes from the very distinct difference between his town play in WHC and his play here. I hate meta, but in this case I am simply pointing out that HF is willing to put in effort in WHC as town, but is not doing so here. He also doesn't mislead there and is very clearly town, here not so much.

Aight, I'm out again. Last time. Promise. Maybe.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 22 2013 20:19 GMT
#5347
where did i say that he's a tracker? he obviously misunderstood something. Never said anything about his role I believe...
I don't know his role btw. I thought he's just a mason.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 22 2013 20:20 GMT
#5348
On November 23 2013 05:18 Risen wrote:
A final note on SS's mindset in what he just said to me. It shows a very scum mindset from SS to expect me to have a concrete scum list to lynch into. The nature of being completely vanilla means I don't have outside information, so I have to give town general guidelines to work from. Scum has killed off just about everyone who had credibility or was willing to build cases. The people that are left seem to be easily led/don't care much about the game/have done really scummy things like troll, lie, be retarded.

I feel like I've been prodded to put in a little more effort so lynch these people no matter what townies: Supersoft, Pandain, Holyflare. After that work through the list/see how the game has developed. Can't believe other townies and I are reading the same game. My scum reads on ss/pandain have literally nothing to do with their interaction with me. HF comes from the very distinct difference between his town play in WHC and his play here. I hate meta, but in this case I am simply pointing out that HF is willing to put in effort in WHC as town, but is not doing so here. He also doesn't mislead there and is very clearly town, here not so much.

Aight, I'm out again. Last time. Promise. Maybe.


that is just bullshit. You are a terrible mafiaplayer thats it. Scumnightkills are terribly bad so far. They only killed useless people.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:20 GMT
#5349
##unvote: Alakaslam
##unvote: Grackaroni
##vote: Supersoft
##vote: Pandain
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 22 2013 20:21 GMT
#5350
Ugh. Haha, I'm writing up a big thing on the votes right now and you're MESSING ME UP.

I think In a decent way though.
Fe fi fo fum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 22 2013 20:21 GMT
#5351
On November 23 2013 05:20 Risen wrote:
##unvote: Alakaslam
##unvote: Grackaroni
##vote: Supersoft
##vote: Pandain


next time do that in the voting thread. Noone is interested in your horrible guesswork. You don't analyze, you just guess.
Your meta shows that you can analyze. So don't bullshit me. You're just scum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:21 GMT
#5352
On November 23 2013 05:20 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:18 Risen wrote:
A final note on SS's mindset in what he just said to me. It shows a very scum mindset from SS to expect me to have a concrete scum list to lynch into. The nature of being completely vanilla means I don't have outside information, so I have to give town general guidelines to work from. Scum has killed off just about everyone who had credibility or was willing to build cases. The people that are left seem to be easily led/don't care much about the game/have done really scummy things like troll, lie, be retarded.

I feel like I've been prodded to put in a little more effort so lynch these people no matter what townies: Supersoft, Pandain, Holyflare. After that work through the list/see how the game has developed. Can't believe other townies and I are reading the same game. My scum reads on ss/pandain have literally nothing to do with their interaction with me. HF comes from the very distinct difference between his town play in WHC and his play here. I hate meta, but in this case I am simply pointing out that HF is willing to put in effort in WHC as town, but is not doing so here. He also doesn't mislead there and is very clearly town, here not so much.

Aight, I'm out again. Last time. Promise. Maybe.


that is just bullshit. You are a terrible mafiaplayer thats it. Scumnightkills are terribly bad so far. They only killed useless people.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the cheering of the fans
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Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#5353
On November 23 2013 05:21 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:20 Risen wrote:
##unvote: Alakaslam
##unvote: Grackaroni
##vote: Supersoft
##vote: Pandain


next time do that in the voting thread. Noone is interested in your horrible guesswork. You don't analyze, you just guess.
Your meta shows that you can analyze. So don't bullshit me. You're just scum.

I have analyzed here, but I have my computer hooked up to my TV so it's really hard to make big posts. So I'll expect town to listen to me once I'm dead, though momentum has appeared to move away from me. We'll see. Doesn't really matter, if you're not lynched today you and pandain will very quickly go bye bye. Hopefully HF soon after, though that one I'm less certain on (not on my read, but whether people will lynch him)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#5354
On November 23 2013 05:21 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:20 Risen wrote:
##unvote: Alakaslam
##unvote: Grackaroni
##vote: Supersoft
##vote: Pandain


next time do that in the voting thread. Noone is interested in your horrible guesswork. You don't analyze, you just guess.
Your meta shows that you can analyze. So don't bullshit me. You're just scum.


I am actually extremely close to call you town, because you're too bad to be scum...
You're just so bad this game.
You must be scum
you try nothing.
But you are so wrong, you cant have the scuminformation.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#5355
Risen, do you know a game that there is a wagon with 7 people and there is 0 scums on it? "This game" is not a valid answer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:26 GMT
#5356
On November 23 2013 05:23 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:21 supersoft wrote:
On November 23 2013 05:20 Risen wrote:
##unvote: Alakaslam
##unvote: Grackaroni
##vote: Supersoft
##vote: Pandain


next time do that in the voting thread. Noone is interested in your horrible guesswork. You don't analyze, you just guess.
Your meta shows that you can analyze. So don't bullshit me. You're just scum.


I am actually extremely close to call you town, because you're too bad to be scum...
You're just so bad this game.
You must be scum
you try nothing.
But you are so wrong, you cant have the scuminformation.

Ah ye ole' conf town because OMGUS but I'm not moving my vote because I won't sway but look guys I was totally swaying there at the end. Works 90% of the time every time... or something.

On November 23 2013 05:23 Koshi wrote:
Risen, do you know a game that there is a wagon with 7 people and there is 0 scums on it? "This game" is not a valid answer.

Don't know what you're talking about, I think you're referring to the d1 mayor candidates, right?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#5357
Yes. But in other games. It has fascinated me since forever that scum always spreads out.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 22 2013 20:32 GMT
#5358
HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THE VOTE THREAD???

There are, as best I can tell, NINETEEN people alive in this game.

There are, as best I can tell, FIFTEEN different people getting votes today at some point.

There are, as best I can tell, FOURTEEN different people getting votes today RIGHT NOW.


Start from there. Throw out ALL your scumreads, throw out this entire thread, throw out your computer, the baby, the bathwater.

If you're town, you have scumreads. You have townreads. You think people are one or the other alignment. But you KNOW that with 5 scum and 10 votes between them, a lynch in which we have FOURTEEN candidates is NOT GOING TO GO WELL. That's just fact. It's not based on reads, it's not based on WIFOM, 14 people getting votes is NOT a good situation as town.

So I propose we start lopping people off of the list, NOW. We need to consolidate, but mainly we need to shut down some tangents and get things focused on ... heck, just a list of like 6 candidates or something.







(1)
The following candidates have only a SINGLE vote - Koshi (Onegu), Onegu (Oats), Oats (Supersoft), Coagulation (Grack), Alakaslam (Vayne). Out of those, only one had more than 2 votes today, and that was slam, who topped out at 3.

I propose we cut Koshi, Onegu, Oats, Coag, and Slam from possible lynches. They've got a whopping one vote each. They haven't really picked up any votes. No matter how strongly you feel about them, anyone voting those folks does not appear to have made convincing arguments.

If anyone wants to argue that it's townie to have votes spread so much, or wants to argue that, despite convincing nobody to vote these players over the course of D3, they are totes serious lynch options, please do so now. Otherwise, Onegy, Oats, Supersoft, Grack, and Vayne should move their votes.







(2)
The following candidates have only TWO votes - Mig (BC, Oats), HF (Pandain, Onegu), Supersoft (Hopeless, Risen). Out of these options, only supersoft has ever had more than 2 votes today.

I propose we cut Mig and HF as possible lynches.

If anyone wants to argue that it's townie to have votes spread so much, or wants to argue that, despite convincing almost nobody to vote these players over the course of D3, they are totes serious lynch options, please do so now. Otherwise, BC, Oats, Pandain, and Onegushould move their votes.

Supersoft has had much much more movement on and off him today, so probably should stay as an option over others.







(3)
rayn and koshi have each voted for 5 different people today. It looks like Koshi has voted, unvoted, and revoted (and sometimes unvoted again) 4 of his 5 total voted peeps. Risen has voted 4 people today. Slam has voted 4 people today.

This indicates, TO ME, that Koshi is probably town. He has moved his vote a lot, but also keeps moving it back and forth. Koshi stands out as NUMBER ONE ICHIBAN VOTE-MOVER, and the way in which his vote moves shows ... some confusion, to put it mildly . Yes, we all have 2 votes, and so making votes and moving them once = 4 people, but Koshi stands out for how friggin' much he's moved his vote, how willing he is to just vote the guys he just unvoted, how much he doesn't care what his vote record looks like.
Fe fi fo fum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 20:34 GMT
#5359
On November 23 2013 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Yes. But in other games. It has fascinated me since forever that scum always spreads out.

You're probably right. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, but I don't think any of them are more scummy than my top 3. Rayn should obviously be lynched come lylo (read as: if you're town rayn you better pray you guys catch all the scum before then. Side effect of having so many fucking posts)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 20:37 GMT
#5360
On November 23 2013 05:34 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Yes. But in other games. It has fascinated me since forever that scum always spreads out.

You're probably right. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, but I don't think any of them are more scummy than my top 3. Rayn should obviously be lynched come lylo (read as: if you're town rayn you better pray you guys catch all the scum before then. Side effect of having so many fucking posts)

Now take into account that Yamato was going to kill BH. Or Onegu/Austin.
Scum loves to kill BH and blame it then on Yamato. (Aperture and geript)
Onegu you have a townread on. Austin is just town dude.

Explain to me how there are not 2 scum on Yamato..;
I had a good night of sleep.
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