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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 21 2013 15:31 GMT
#4821
On November 22 2013 00:28 supersoft wrote:
I really have no idea what you're talking about! really!


I'm just saying there are ways the KP is prevented / hidden that don't involve your supposed roleblock. I've learned that roles are generally useless speculation after rolling cop in one game, and having my check be paranoid which resulted in lynching town. Also in the next game I rolled parity cop VE got framed and he modkilled himself when I said I had a red check on him. So I just think all roles are bullshit with the exception of vigilantes, because shooting people is awesome.

And pandas are cute, that's it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 21 2013 15:31 GMT
#4822
##Morerolespeculation##SorryHopeless##Notlynchingbasedonclaims
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 21 2013 15:35 GMT
#4823
This is my point about how the game is in a shit state. SS of all people is clinging for dear life to the fact that Oats must be scum because he knows he blocked scum kp with his roleblock. What the fuck is that shit? SS can die too.
p.s. Oats I'm sorry.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 21 2013 15:39 GMT
#4824
On November 22 2013 00:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
This is my point about how the game is in a shit state. SS of all people is clinging for dear life to the fact that Oats must be scum because he knows he blocked scum kp with his roleblock. What the fuck is that shit? SS can die too.
p.s. Oats I'm sorry.


i am not clinging for dear life you stuck-up ape.
you are scum with Oats.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 21 2013 15:44 GMT
#4825
On November 22 2013 00:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
This is my point about how the game is in a shit state. SS of all people is clinging for dear life to the fact that Oats must be scum because he knows he blocked scum kp with his roleblock. What the fuck is that shit? SS can die too.
p.s. Oats I'm sorry.

Comment on this Hopeless1der. I don't know why you are complaining about people not commenting on your Pandain case when you haven't commented on any of the cases here.

supersoft has been pushing Oats for a week now for reasons outside the RB, you are not aware it seems.

On November 19 2013 07:18 supersoft wrote:
I _still_ have an issue with Oatsmaster:

+ Show Spoiler +
First piece of evidence:

On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!


Second piece of evidence:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all

one million questions, no follow-ups.
Only oneliners, no opinions on anything.
Questions are mostly pointless.
If he has no serious notes, he's scum

Third piece of evidence:

This line of posts seem extremely fake:
On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah yeah I think VE is town.

On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?

How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
what the fuck VE.
What the fuck.
I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN

Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies.


WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum?
Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly.
VE isn't scum and he knows that!


Fourth piece of evidence


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=Oatsmaster&currentpage=2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&currentpage=2

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
looks the same to me.


yeah. I think so, too

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504&user=Oatsmaster

huge difference: Posts with actual content in between the massive amount of oneliners. See for yourself guys.

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.

and this is a lie.

Fifth piece of evidence:

His defense:

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.


ad hominem

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 18 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im sorry what hopeless? Why am I scum? Can you put it in your own words? A few sentences? And say how you are different from me.

I dont understand how Im full of shit. Explain that too.

Why am I scum? Explain that first please.

You havent done jack shit and you sheeped SS's case on me without bothering to rephrase anything.

Rephrase the points you agree on Hopeless.


more ad hominem.
And most important: He doesnt try to explain each point individually. He just takes the weakest point of what I said about him - the oneliners - and says he does that every game.

No explanation why he voted Yamato,
No explanation why he thought VE was assassin and not scum.
And finally, even his defense was a lie, since he doesnt play like this every game.

OATSMASTER is scum!

##vote: Oatsmaster


I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 21 2013 15:53 GMT
#4826
His case is fucking trash and I'm sorry I ever considered Oats might be scum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 21 2013 15:54 GMT
#4827
On November 22 2013 00:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
His case is fucking trash and I'm sorry I ever considered Oats might be scum.


Please point out my errors. Man you new guys, your way of finding scum is just random
I don't even know why some people are voting me. They have no reason to vote me.
They just say:
Oh man SS could be scum... or BC... no i am voting SS man! Yolo
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 21 2013 15:57 GMT
#4828
oh yeah and the guy that says that you call scum. Ok SS.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 21 2013 15:59 GMT
#4829
I cant believe you think that somehow missing kp + rb means 100% that that dude is scum. When we have NO WAY OF KNOWING if there are docs, maybe they shot VE maybe other stuff.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 21 2013 16:00 GMT
#4830
Thank you hopeless.
##unvote BC
vote SS

No gg, No skill.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#4831
On November 22 2013 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can people stop trying to break the game based on "find the scum vet" or "find the fakeclaim" and play mafia instead? kthx.

##Vote: Pandain
##Vote: BC


If Vayne is fine with being lynched to set his bombs off I'm willing to do that


Finding fakeclaims is part of mafia.

Haven't you ever played "I'm the cop, you idiot!"?

That's insufficient to lynch someone. Like Risen 'policying' grack. Shut the fuck up and find mafia. "wah ss/bc/mig have to be mafia because marv is a big meanie-face" Cool story bro. How bout some motive to back that up with? There are still 5 mafia alive, and still I have yet to see anyone comment on my case on Pandain, aside from Oats being a dick. I explicitly asked SS two or three times and have got nothing. This game is a fucking farce.

BC has spent his last couple days being angry at town and explaining how there is no way mig is town vet because "balance" and "logic". Stop gaming the setup. His arguments for mig shooting a lurker over shooting BC are trash imo. That's what vig shots are for, to clear out the unknowns that you are unwilling to lynch. BC is absolutely a viable lynch and I want him dead. Whether that is through Vayne or not remains to be seen, but one way or another I want BC's flip today.


How is it that it is fine for mig to use balance as a reason to justify why I must be red when its wrong for me to use balance to justify there must be 1 scum within 4 kp claimants?

Then to take that scum and point out that two days in a row he opted to not shoot his top scum read, and instead shoot into a lurker pile giving 0 information off the kills?

You're right, all im doing is gaming the setup. I didnt point out that mig opted to not shoot his top scum read day 1. hell I didn't even point out his only case post on me was balance speculation that I had to be red. Hell, I didn't even point out that the guy said he thought he was gonna die, and that the guy who claimed he was going to shoot me was likely going to be roleblocked (he said 99% sure of this) and instead of shooting his top scum read again he shoots a rando lurker.

You're right, thats gaming the system. Its standard policy for town to look at the thread go "man im 100% sure that guy is red so ima shoot someone else for lulsies"
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 21 2013 16:07 GMT
#4832
SS's case on Oats.
Evidence 1: Pregame banter, inadmissible evidence
Evidence 2: Oats is slightly scummy for this. However you give him an out saying "provide notes or scum". Oats proceeds to not give a shit. No wait, go to point 4
Evidence 3: "this seems fake" nah it seems pretty legit tho.
Evidence 4: mm...no, Oats is right that he consistently puts up pointless 1liners. You're wrong SS.
Evidence 5: Pot, meet kettle. If this is sufficient cause to lynch someone you're first in line.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 21 2013 16:14 GMT
#4833
On November 22 2013 01:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can people stop trying to break the game based on "find the scum vet" or "find the fakeclaim" and play mafia instead? kthx.

##Vote: Pandain
##Vote: BC


If Vayne is fine with being lynched to set his bombs off I'm willing to do that


Finding fakeclaims is part of mafia.

Haven't you ever played "I'm the cop, you idiot!"?

That's insufficient to lynch someone. Like Risen 'policying' grack. Shut the fuck up and find mafia. "wah ss/bc/mig have to be mafia because marv is a big meanie-face" Cool story bro. How bout some motive to back that up with? There are still 5 mafia alive, and still I have yet to see anyone comment on my case on Pandain, aside from Oats being a dick. I explicitly asked SS two or three times and have got nothing. This game is a fucking farce.

BC has spent his last couple days being angry at town and explaining how there is no way mig is town vet because "balance" and "logic". Stop gaming the setup. His arguments for mig shooting a lurker over shooting BC are trash imo. That's what vig shots are for, to clear out the unknowns that you are unwilling to lynch. BC is absolutely a viable lynch and I want him dead. Whether that is through Vayne or not remains to be seen, but one way or another I want BC's flip today.


[*]1)How is it that it is fine for mig to use balance as a reason to justify why I must be red when its wrong for me to use balance to justify there must be 1 scum within 4 kp claimants?

[*]2)Then to take that scum and point out that two days in a row he opted to not shoot his top scum read, and instead shoot into a lurker pile giving 0 information off the kills?

[*]3)You're right, all im doing is gaming the setup. I didnt point out that mig opted to not shoot his top scum read day 1. hell I didn't even point out his only case post on me was balance speculation that I had to be red. Hell, I didn't even point out that the guy said he thought he was gonna die, and that the guy who claimed he was going to shoot me was likely going to be roleblocked (he said 99% sure of this) and instead of shooting his top scum read again he shoots a rando lurker.

You're right, thats gaming the system. Its standard policy for town to look at the thread go "man im 100% sure that guy is red so ima shoot someone else for lulsies"

1) You're both wrong. You look worse based on how you go about doing things
2) That is, in my opinion, how vig shots SHOULD be allocated. Good for you Mig.
3) I never said that trying to game the setup was ALL you did. I specifically address your argument that Mig should have been shooting you and not Mattchew(or some other lurker). Get lynched scum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 21 2013 16:20 GMT
#4834
On November 22 2013 01:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can people stop trying to break the game based on "find the scum vet" or "find the fakeclaim" and play mafia instead? kthx.

##Vote: Pandain
##Vote: BC


If Vayne is fine with being lynched to set his bombs off I'm willing to do that


Finding fakeclaims is part of mafia.

Haven't you ever played "I'm the cop, you idiot!"?

That's insufficient to lynch someone. Like Risen 'policying' grack. Shut the fuck up and find mafia. "wah ss/bc/mig have to be mafia because marv is a big meanie-face" Cool story bro. How bout some motive to back that up with? There are still 5 mafia alive, and still I have yet to see anyone comment on my case on Pandain, aside from Oats being a dick. I explicitly asked SS two or three times and have got nothing. This game is a fucking farce.

BC has spent his last couple days being angry at town and explaining how there is no way mig is town vet because "balance" and "logic". Stop gaming the setup. His arguments for mig shooting a lurker over shooting BC are trash imo. That's what vig shots are for, to clear out the unknowns that you are unwilling to lynch. BC is absolutely a viable lynch and I want him dead. Whether that is through Vayne or not remains to be seen, but one way or another I want BC's flip today.


[*]1)How is it that it is fine for mig to use balance as a reason to justify why I must be red when its wrong for me to use balance to justify there must be 1 scum within 4 kp claimants?

[*]2)Then to take that scum and point out that two days in a row he opted to not shoot his top scum read, and instead shoot into a lurker pile giving 0 information off the kills?

[*]3)You're right, all im doing is gaming the setup. I didnt point out that mig opted to not shoot his top scum read day 1. hell I didn't even point out his only case post on me was balance speculation that I had to be red. Hell, I didn't even point out that the guy said he thought he was gonna die, and that the guy who claimed he was going to shoot me was likely going to be roleblocked (he said 99% sure of this) and instead of shooting his top scum read again he shoots a rando lurker.

You're right, thats gaming the system. Its standard policy for town to look at the thread go "man im 100% sure that guy is red so ima shoot someone else for lulsies"

1) You're both wrong. You look worse based on how you go about doing things
2) That is, in my opinion, how vig shots SHOULD be allocated. Good for you Mig.
3) I never said that trying to game the setup was ALL you did. I specifically address your argument that Mig should have been shooting you and not Mattchew(or some other lurker). Get lynched scum.


So you are advocating that if someone is 100% sure on someone being red and wants them to die, that not killing them is ideal play?

Got yea, found scum #2 of the day.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 21 2013 16:24 GMT
#4835
On November 22 2013 01:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
So you are advocating that if someone is 100% sure on someone being red and wants them to die, that not killing SHOOTING them is ideal play?

ftfy. And yes.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#4836
I lost one of my bombs this game already, my only bomb is on BC. so lynching me just kills both of us
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#4837
kush is such a bad player that he made me waste one on him when he started shitting up the thread, I changed it last second.
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#4838
Why take a bomb of LM when BC was going to get shot?
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#4839
Scum doctors, I wanted to stack Kp.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 21 2013 16:58 GMT
#4840
Also I never had a bomb on LM. figured we were lynching him today
I come in for the scraps
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