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On November 21 2013 14:10 Mig wrote:
Bc if you think I am scum please vote for me. Show that you are putting 0 effort into actual scum hunting.
I've done scumhunting. Sadly people think all my contributions are worthless and shit.
Here I am pointing out that
On November 21 2013 09:07 Mig wrote:
Woulda been so nice if BC died. Probably scum and learn so much from his death.
you knew I wasn't dying. How? Ive scum hunted repeatedly. I may not have articulated it the best but realistically you have no way to know I wasn't dying unless you have knowledge the thread doesn't. Like night actions of other players.
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You know artanis is a Vig, there haven't been any other vig shots, artanis said he didn't vig you, you are the most suspicious person to a lot of people so you aren't going to die.
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On November 21 2013 14:13 austinmcc wrote:
BC, your posts on mig being sure you weren't going to die are absolutely true.
Except...I feel like you have merged with rayn. raynycobbler or bloodypelikoneet.
I can understand someone saying "ME SO SAD YOU NO DIE" when they have KP and were planning on shooting you, then got mindgamed out of it by another guy with a shot, only to find out the other guy didn't shoot either.
That scenario makes plenty of sense as one to say "it would have been nice if you'd died." mig wanted to shoot you, artanis wanted to shoot you, but neither did, oopsies. Sure do wish you got shot. Why is it that you only interpret his statement as foreknowledge of your continued survival, and not as "shucks, wish I'd shot me some BCs"?
Simple. He added the very likely possibility of artanis being rb'd and himself dying. If you think you are going to die, and the other claimed vig to be rb'd you shoot your top read. He even says it will give the thread a bunch of information. So instead he shoots mattchew, who gives next to nothing.
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I DONT KNOW ANYMORE.
Yeah it makes sense BC.
Mig do you have another shot?
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It is common sense, I wasnt shooting you artanis said he wasnt. Tell me the scenario where mafia wants to kill you lol. You said yourself you were under the most suspicion. I didnt "know" you wouldnt die but it had to be 99%+.
I refuse to believe you can be town with this thinking. If you were town I think you come back realize I am almost certainly town and work to actually pick out a scum. This is just your mafia hail mary. The fact you snap believe VA and rayn and just push me while refusing to listen to reason seals it.
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He doesn't really have a choice as either town or mafia, rayn isn't up for lynch anytime soon and my breadcrumbs are pretty foolproof. it would be a death sentence to try and push either of us, so you are really his only recourse, regardless of alignment.
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I do not have another shot. I wanted you dead but I didnt want to waste a bullet if artanis was shooting you. For one thing I didnt even know for sure mafia had a rber. Or if they did maybe they are confused by the hf claim.
Why would I paste my case and why I find you so supicious earlier in the day then make a post like that if I really didnt want to kill you?
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Hey what do you think of Supersoft BC?
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Like I said targeting me is a hail mary. He isnt worried about finding scum he is just trying to save his neck so he targets me without using any reason. I mean if you take away my vig claim did anyone think I was mafia?
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Hey Vayne, you think that Rayn is town?
The thing with mad hatters is that you have to kill them to find out if they are real. So breadcrumbs mean absolutely NOTHING Vayne.
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On November 21 2013 14:21 Mig wrote:
It is common sense, I wasnt shooting you artanis said he wasnt. Tell me the scenario where mafia wants to kill you lol. You said yourself you were under the most suspicion. I didnt "know" you wouldnt die but it had to be 99%+.
I refuse to believe you can be town with this thinking. If you were town I think you come back realize I am almost certainly town and work to actually pick out a scum. This is just your mafia hail mary. The fact you snap believe VA and rayn and just push me while refusing to listen to reason seals it.
what fucking reason?
You seriously believe you can make some bullshit excuse on why you didnt shoot me all because artanis claimed he was going to? You admit you expected to die. You admit you were sure he was being rbed
As such why the fuck didn't you shoot me? You say in which scenario where mafia wants to kill me. Guess what, I think your mafia and you didnt shoot me, thus hey, we are in a scenario in which mafia didn't want to kill me.
If you were 99% sure that without your shot I wasn't dying and don't shoot me (your top scum read) then you are fucking scum. Its an obvious setup to a misslynch.
And as for snap believe rayn and VA? i still think one of them is likely lying as well. Because again, 6 town kp is fucking retarded broken vs 6 scum.
I don't believe town has 7+ non mason roles. But hey, maybe this is cause marv has been around long enough to not only see some of the flames hosts have gotten for that shit hes heard it more than once from people he talks to. I currently however am looking strongly at the one guy who has claimed a role + acted in a way that screams fucking scum.
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On November 21 2013 14:27 Mig wrote:
Like I said targeting me is a hail mary. He isnt worried about finding scum he is just trying to save his neck so he targets me without using any reason. I mean if you take away my vig claim did anyone think I was mafia?
You've been suspected of mafia off and on all game actually. Supersoft actually thought or still thinks your scum
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On November 21 2013 14:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey what do you think of Supersoft BC?
He has done nothing that has suggested hes scum to me. Talking to him for two days and he hasn't attempted anything to me that screams scum.
I still think hes firmly town.
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On November 21 2013 14:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 14:21 Mig wrote:
It is common sense, I wasnt shooting you artanis said he wasnt. Tell me the scenario where mafia wants to kill you lol. You said yourself you were under the most suspicion. I didnt "know" you wouldnt die but it had to be 99%+.
I refuse to believe you can be town with this thinking. If you were town I think you come back realize I am almost certainly town and work to actually pick out a scum. This is just your mafia hail mary. The fact you snap believe VA and rayn and just push me while refusing to listen to reason seals it. what fucking reason? You seriously believe you can make some bullshit excuse on why you didnt shoot me all because artanis claimed he was going to? You admit you expected to die. You admit you were sure he was being rbed As such why the fuck didn't you shoot me? You say in which scenario where mafia wants to kill me. Guess what, I think your mafia and you didnt shoot me, thus hey, we are in a scenario in which mafia didn't want to kill me. If you were 99% sure that without your shot I wasn't dying and don't shoot me (your top scum read) then you are fucking scum. Its an obvious setup to a misslynch. And as for snap believe rayn and VA? i still think one of them is likely lying as well. Because again, 6 town kp is fucking retarded broken vs 6 scum. I don't believe town has 7+ non mason roles. But hey, maybe this is cause marv has been around long enough to not only see some of the flames hosts have gotten for that shit hes heard it more than once from people he talks to. I currently however am looking strongly at the one guy who has claimed a role + acted in a way that screams fucking scum. Quoting this because a line here is possibly relevant laaaaaaaaaaaaater
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BC the fact still is I would never claim the vig shot as mafia. I jus wouldnt. You can claim that you would claim with any role for no reason but that isnt me. You have played with me enough times you should know I make my plays based on logic. I have never fake claimed. I really dont do crazy shit. Look through any of my games.
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On November 21 2013 14:25 Mig wrote:
I do not have another shot. I wanted you dead but I didnt want to waste a bullet if artanis was shooting you. For one thing I didnt even know for sure mafia had a rber. Or if they did maybe they are confused by the hf claim.
Why would I paste my case and why I find you so supicious earlier in the day then make a post like that if I really didnt want to kill you?
WIFOM
Also, given that I have called HF scum, and he was masoned to artanis, hey, mafia wouldn't be confused by the claim. But hey, thats just me thinkin here
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On November 21 2013 14:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 14:25 Mig wrote:
I do not have another shot. I wanted you dead but I didnt want to waste a bullet if artanis was shooting you. For one thing I didnt even know for sure mafia had a rber. Or if they did maybe they are confused by the hf claim.
Why would I paste my case and why I find you so supicious earlier in the day then make a post like that if I really didnt want to kill you?
WIFOM Also, given that I have called HF scum, and he was masoned to artanis, hey, mafia wouldn't be confused by the claim. But hey, thats just me thinkin here
Who haven't you called scum?
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On November 21 2013 14:31 Mig wrote:
BC the fact still is I would never claim the vig shot as mafia. I jus wouldnt. You can claim that you would claim with any role for no reason but that isnt me. You have played with me enough times you should know I make my plays based on logic. I have never fake claimed. I really dont do crazy shit. Look through any of my games.
To use this exact point well, against you. You know that your plays rely on logic. You know that as mafia the town is less likely to think a vig claim is a scum fake claiming. You would know that most people wouldn't expect you to do so. Thus the most logical thing to do IS CLAIM. Why? because aside from me who didn't believe you?
Seems a logical call to me to have near everyone think you auto town.
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BC how are you so sure I am scum lol. Like you cant even consider the possibility you are wrong.
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