EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 234
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Holyflare
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:37 Mig wrote: 1) I already answered that, maybe if you read the thread you would know these things. 2) way to completely ignore my point broski. Give me a motivation for claiming the vig shot as mafia. Lets hear it. Simple. You have a role that overlaps with a town role. You can easily fakeclaim. Given that there are no alignment cops you have essentially impunity to shoot someone of your choice. Given you have a role you can fakeclaim you opt to shoot into a pool of players that have a ton of negative sentiment on that could or not have mafia in it. Regardless you opt for a person you know won't flip scum and shoot. Claiming when you did was fucked, as was making excuses on not to shoot your top read. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
The idea that mafia has 3 kp + 2 2shot vigs and THEN I as mafia just decide hey lets claim that I shot the doctor n1 when no kp was missing then decided to claim this shot also when I could stay silent and shoot actual helpful townies instead of fucking mattchew. It is so beyond ridiculous I feel like I am losing my mind. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
(1) Why believe that mig is fakeclaiming rather than rayn or vayne? (or at least you appear focused on him, although I know you present the rayn/mig choice to everyone. Also, vayne claimed hatter as well) (2) If mig is NOT a town vigi, then you're presenting the following scenario --> scum shot sharrant N1, either with factional KP (mig is lying about vigi, no factional KP was rbed) or with vigi (mig is scum vigi, factional KP was rbed). Why does mafia, with EITHER kind of KP on N1, shoot sharrant? He was not particularly townie. He was not particularly active. In the world where mig is NOT a town vigi, either a REAL town vigi has not counterclaimed the shot (unlikely) OR scum chose to shoot sharrant over yourself (who you, I assume, are arguing is town) or others. Why does scum shoot sharrant N1? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:45 Mig wrote: Anyone who is town and thinks I am mafia should quit mafia forever. I am dead serious. The idea that mafia has 3 kp + 2 2shot vigs and THEN I as mafia just decide hey lets claim that I shot the doctor n1 when no kp was missing then decided to claim this shot also when I could stay silent and shoot actual helpful townies instead of fucking mattchew. It is so beyond ridiculous I feel like I am losing my mind. The only reason anyone thinks you are even remotely scum is for posts like this. Just keep playing and stop trying to point out how the setup or something irrelevant makes you town -_- win with your motive/actions. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:45 Mig wrote: Anyone who is town and thinks I am mafia should quit mafia forever. I am dead serious. The idea that mafia has 3 kp + 2 2shot vigs and THEN I as mafia just decide hey lets claim that I shot the doctor n1 when no kp was missing then decided to claim this shot also when I could stay silent and shoot actual helpful townies instead of fucking mattchew. It is so beyond ridiculous I feel like I am losing my mind. WIFOM | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:46 austinmcc wrote: BC i get that you are concerned about the amount of KP that town might have here, but two questions: (1) Why believe that mig is fakeclaiming rather than rayn or vayne? (or at least you appear focused on him, although I know you present the rayn/mig choice to everyone. Also, vayne claimed hatter as well) (2) If mig is NOT a town vigi, then you're presenting the following scenario --> scum shot sharrant N1, either with factional KP (mig is lying about vigi, no factional KP was rbed) or with vigi (mig is scum vigi, factional KP was rbed). Why does mafia, with EITHER kind of KP on N1, shoot sharrant? He was not particularly townie. He was not particularly active. In the world where mig is NOT a town vigi, either a REAL town vigi has not counterclaimed the shot (unlikely) OR scum chose to shoot sharrant over yourself (who you, I assume, are arguing is town) or others. Why does scum shoot sharrant N1? I am concentrating on mig purely for one thing. He claimed really retardedly, then makes a post making an excuse as to why he didnt shoot me. He openly admits due to artanis' claim that the likelyhood of him being rb'd was high. He wanted me dead, he then doesnt shoot me and shoots town instead. Whats worse? killing a town, or overlapping a shot with another vig who might be rb'd to ensure your top read dies. HE THEN POSTS SHIT LIKE THIS On November 21 2013 09:07 Mig wrote: Woulda been so nice if BC died. Probably scum and learn so much from his death. This is a post before the fucking flip. How does he know I am not going to die? This to me is a huge scumslip. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
Anyway I think BC is pretty clearly mafia and is just trying to stir shit up and tilt the hell out of me so np. Not going to bother arguing with him anymore. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Either BC or SS is scum. ##vote SS GOO SS. Risen, why did you drop your policy lynch on Grack? Why is Grack making a joke about being masons with Coag scummy? ##vote Risen Amount of surprise is less than the number of townies alive at endgame when I wiped the floor in World Heavyweight Championship. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:51 Risen wrote: Amount of surprise is less than the number of townies alive at endgame when I wiped the floor in World Heavyweight Championship. You nightkilled me. Clearly you are afraid. So answer the questions. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 21 2013 13:46 austinmcc wrote: BC i get that you are concerned about the amount of KP that town might have here, but two questions: (1) Why believe that mig is fakeclaiming rather than rayn or vayne? (or at least you appear focused on him, although I know you present the rayn/mig choice to everyone. Also, vayne claimed hatter as well) (2) If mig is NOT a town vigi, then you're presenting the following scenario --> scum shot sharrant N1, either with factional KP (mig is lying about vigi, no factional KP was rbed) or with vigi (mig is scum vigi, factional KP was rbed). Why does mafia, with EITHER kind of KP on N1, shoot sharrant? He was not particularly townie. He was not particularly active. In the world where mig is NOT a town vigi, either a REAL town vigi has not counterclaimed the shot (unlikely) OR scum chose to shoot sharrant over yourself (who you, I assume, are arguing is town) or others. Why does scum shoot sharrant N1? Why would scum shoot spag? kush? sharrant? storr? Artanis and yamato you could make easy cases for. However why shoot most players over me? Well easy. Day 1 you have the mayor and pardoner liking me for town, with one of them actively telling people to med me. The likelyhood of me getting med prot was super high then. Day 2 you have people suspecting me all day. Why would you shoot someone you could get misslynched. Wasting 1 slot of a double lynch benefits mafia hugely. Whoever is making the shots is either blue sniping, is incredibly lucky, or is afraid to actively shoot a more active player/vet in fear of med prot/vet. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 21 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Basically BC, mig has 0 reason to claim as scum. None. At all. why? If i was a scum vig id claim. TBH in this setup id claim as any role a scum could have aside from bomber and rolecop as they match up with a town role. Any setup that both sides can claim the same role it is always a high possibility mafia will claim. As for 0 reason? Thread consensus is to believe the claim and hes town. That is motivation right there. People will just go "herp derp your right" He also claims to know that im not going to die before the night post. Regardless of you think of him having reasons to actually claim or not, why hasnt he explained the fact he knew i wasn't dying? If you still believe he is town, do you not honestly find the other two town kp role claims slightly fishy? 8 kp against 6 mafia? I honestly get people not wanting to believe/trust me given the suspicion im under but seriously ask yourself how he knew I wasn't dying. The only way someone can know that is if he knew for sure mafia had a rber at the time and that the action was being used on artanis. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Except...I feel like you have merged with rayn. raynycobbler or bloodypelikoneet. I can understand someone saying "ME SO SAD YOU NO DIE" when they have KP and were planning on shooting you, then got mindgamed out of it by another guy with a shot, only to find out the other guy didn't shoot either. That scenario makes plenty of sense as one to say "it would have been nice if you'd died." mig wanted to shoot you, artanis wanted to shoot you, but neither did, oopsies. Sure do wish you got shot. Why is it that you only interpret his statement as foreknowledge of your continued survival, and not as "shucks, wish I'd shot me some BCs"? | ||
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