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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 00:32 GMT
#3981
(4) I dislike thrawn and need to look at him a little more closely.

HERE'S A THING ABOUT THRAWN
Within 2 hours of joining the game, he wants me to give him a recap of D1. But not a recap, he really wants people who were active but I find scummy. But not that, he wants people who intentionally posted so as not to get noticed (hid in easy spots?). + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey austin.. or whoever but austin I specifically want you to answer this... can you give me a recap of D1 with emphasis on people who were at least above the lurker threshold, but not one the main talking points of D1 because of sneaky reasons?
On November 17 2013 13:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol goddamn

can you give me tldr of that and focus on what I asked for you to emphasize? i'm less interested in a play by play and more interested on who you think has been "active"
On November 17 2013 13:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 17 2013 13:19 OOHCHILD wrote:
thrawn you lazy mother fucker you cant even read that whole post??? i read liek 90 pages of the game and you cant even read one post.


yeah I read it. i did not want him to tell me who lurked and who didn't, I want to know if HE has scumreads as per what I asked him to emphasize

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 13:21 austinmcc wrote:
First you want peopleabove the lurker threshhold and now you want active!? MAKE UP YOUR MIND. I CAN'T CHRONICLE THE HISTORY OF THIS GAME WITH BOTH THOSE REQUESTS (ACTUALLY, I CAN, BUT THAT WILL MEAN I WRITE TWO MEDIUM SIZED POSTS AND YOU SEEM TO PREFER A SINGLE POST)


what i told kush. just forget about anything related to activity. who in your opinion has intentionally posted in such a way that caused them to avoid being talked about?




Couple things about that. (1) I don't like when people give moving target tasks. I want x, no I want y, no I wanted z. In this case, he wants a summary, but he actually wants my reads. And he wants my reads of active people, but no, he wants people who posted in a way that they avoided discussion (to me, active =/= that). (2) His conclusion, at the end of that chat, is + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 13:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah that's what I was looking for

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On November 17 2013 13:34 austinmcc wrote:
People who have intentionally posted in such a way to avoid them being talked about....BH has posted in a way to avoid being ACTUALLY discussed, because he's just been trolling.


dibs on BH I got this

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On November 17 2013 13:34 austinmcc wrote:
If you're asking me for scumreads, I don't think the folks I look at fit into the category of posting a good bit but always slipping analysis. That just ain't where my reads lie.


lol you should have just said this o.0

So where do your reads lie and what do you think VE's choice of lynch says about his alignment?

i'm out for tonight. my only experience in a large game was as scum and the 100 pages of what austin told me amounts to a lot of trolling/fighting looks like a headache. hopefully 420 will help with that lol

VE please bestow that mind meld upon me

BH whats up talk to me baby

. Oh, you should have told me your reads aren't based on that. I'm out for tonight, based on what austin said D1 was a headache.

I gots two thoughts here. (1) he wanted a summary from anyone, but specifically me (focus there appears to be on getting a summary, he just replaced in); (2) at the end of our chat, he appears to be fine with the fact that my reads aren't in line with what he wants, and gives credence to my summary of thread (to me, this indicates that I'm not overly scummy. He doesn't call me scummy, he doesn't poke further, he seems happy with where things are at).

However, with no intervening posts, I become scummy - + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 15:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 17 2013 15:01 OOHCHILD wrote:
why dont you answer that thrawn because austin is already super town


I will once he's answered. I didn't like how objective his WoT post was, I was looking for alignment related information (his reads) but what he gave was more of a play by play of the entire game. When I pressed him for scumreads he gave me MRCC and rayn, and the amount of analysis he gave me to back up those reads pales in comparison to the aforementioned play by play.

then there's his questions to you which I think he's being artificially stubborn with. I'm pretty sure I know what town austin tries to do with those and I would think that the answers you were giving him are more than enough for him to get a read.

so yeah, fuck your super town read lol

. I'm scummy for giving an objective summary. The thing he wanted initially. I'm scummy NOW for not giving reads, when it was fine earlier. This set of posts put thrawn on my watch list.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: He asked for a summary of the day from anyone, particularly me, with emphasis on people who were active but scummy. He didn't want to read a summary, and never asked anyone else for a summary. He didn't like that my summary was objective. He moved his request from active scummers to people who were hiding. He seemed fine with my reads/lack of reads at first, and then only later decides it's a scummy point.

HERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THRAWN
He's somewhat inconsistent. He doesn't like the amount of reads/reasoning I give. That's his thing with me.
On November 17 2013 15:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 17 2013 15:01 OOHCHILD wrote:
why dont you answer that thrawn because austin is already super town


I will once he's answered. I didn't like how objective his WoT post was, I was looking for alignment related information (his reads) but what he gave was more of a play by play of the entire game. When I pressed him for scumreads he gave me MRCC and rayn, and the amount of analysis he gave me to back up those reads pales in comparison to the aforementioned play by play.

then there's his questions to you which I think he's being artificially stubborn with. I'm pretty sure I know what town austin tries to do with those and I would think that the answers you were giving him are more than enough for him to get a read.

so yeah, fuck your super town read lol
This is his only actual post on my lack of reads. Which is coo. But the lack of analysis I add into reads is naughty naughty. Bad austinmcc, bad. (see rayn's posts for more of the same, but rayn's posts are from rayn, not thrawn).

However, compare to thrawn on pandain
On November 18 2013 16:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 18 2013 16:40 Pandain wrote:
stop I have no opinions on anything besides BH and SS


lol at least you're honest about it

you do know that at some point you will need to talk about scumreads? if you don't have any scumreads why are you wasting everyone's time posting about nothing instead of filter diving or whatever?

make sure that your next post in the thread includes what I've asked for
I may be a bit biased here, but imo, this is treating similar things ENTIRELY differently. Pandain has no opinions except for BH/SS, on D2, and it's coo that he's honest about it and maybe in the future he needs to have scumreads pretty please. Compare to me being scummy for GIVING some reads, just not based on the shifting factor that thrawn wanted, just not giving them detailed enough.

Also note that, in his list of likely scummers,
On November 20 2013 03:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
in order of likeliness scum are grack pandain (one of HF or Austin, their mason chat was way too friendly and I don't detect any real suspicion coming from either of them) oats
pandain is #2. His #2 scumread (although this is over a day later when pandain = #2 scumread, we don't know how he read pandain at the time), was okay not giving scumreads, because he was honest and maybe he needed some in the future. However, it was most definitely not cool for me to only give a couple and not in the detail he wanted right when he had just joined the game.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: thrawn (i think) finds me scummy for lack of scumreads/detailed reads, beyond 2 I gave him. thrawn half-jokes with pandain that it's okay he only has thoughts on two people, but maybe he should have scumreads later. thrawn is also more scummy on pandain than on me. This behavior does not make sense if he's town, as we should BOTH be scummy for this, especially if pandain scummy for other reasons and so already looks bad to thrawn.

HERE IS ANOTHER THING ABOUT THRAWN
For not entirely clear reasons, BH claimed assassin AND said he was fakeclaiming tracker to thrawn in alleged mason chat.

But Thrawn calls BH townie early today, sticks with it
On November 18 2013 08:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
panda i'll vouch for bh. he's been townily cooperative in mason chat
IF SOMEONE CLAIMS ASSASSIN AND TRACKER AND NOT REALLY TRACKER IN MASON CHAT WITH ME I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN SUPER TOWNIE AND I MIGHT WANT TO BRING THIS TO THREAD'S ATTENTION EARLIER RATHER THAN JUST CALLING HIM TOWN BASED ON SECRET MASON STUFF.

I do not understand how Thrawn has handled his BH read and his releasing of mason logs to town IF he is town.

HERE IS I THINK ONE LAST THING THAT WILL TIE INTO A BC POST
Thrawn likes BC, finds him the towniest vet, and seems to agree with a lot of what he's posted. This is only important if you see the world as I do, and will be fleshed out with another post. + Show Spoiler +
On November 19 2013 01:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC are you calling rayn mafia? What's your srs-ness level on this rayn stuff?

Implying BC is to be given credence

On November 19 2013 01:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 19 2013 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im pretty confused BC.

So Mocsta normally types very carefully to his scummates. But he is very angry with Grack this game. Therefore Grack is scum?


He types carefully in general and ignores his teammates. The interaction with grack this game from what I saw in both games filters is completely unique. Its only that reason that it stands out to me.

SO HOW DOES IT MAKE GRACK SCUM????


oats read gracks filter. what has he done besides not commit to actual scumhunting and resort to trolling whenever people try to get him to commit to scumhunting? ignore mocsta. tbh I agree with BC 100% on his analysis of moc's posts concerning grack and BH has made good points about the possible interactions between moc/grack. but ignore all of that. what is your read on grack when you ignore all of that?

@BC

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC are you calling rayn mafia? What's your srs-ness level on this rayn stuff?


BC's mocsta/grack analysis so goooood

On November 19 2013 08:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey super

Who do you want me to mason tomorrow out of:

VE
BC
yourself
On November 20 2013 06:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
STUFF

lol actually no i'm not lynching BC. imo he's the towniest out the vet group and I distinctly remember marv participating in a heated discussion about balancing teams

can everyone on BH look and panda and grack one more time?
On November 20 2013 06:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 20 2013 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 06:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.


supersoft! ignore everyone else. if you really think that rayn is cluttering up the thread then stop talking about him

You thought BH was assassin before I posted his claim right?

Do you still think this? Why aren't you trying to save him? Oats is probably not getting lynched at this point. The only other two viable lynches seem to be pandain and bc.

A pandain lynch would make me a happy thrawn. I might be willing to consolidate on BC but it's not likely unless he's the only alternative to the BH lynch. I really liked his analysis of the mocsta/grack situation and there's been a few other times where his thought process has lined up with mine.

lol actually no i'm not lynching BC. imo he's the towniest out the vet group and I distinctly remember marv participating in a heated discussion about balancing teams

can everyone on BH look and panda and grack one more time?


That's the biggest thing that makes him NOT town.


why is BC scum? explain it in 3 sentences or less.

btw I don't think you answered my question, about "what is your impression of austin's impression of you during your mason chat"



So. I think that thrawn is scummy. I want to know whether other people see a different reaction to pandain/my lack of scumreads, or whether I am seeing things there. This influences my read. I do believe that he reacted differently, and that his reaction is not sensible, given his pandain scum read.

I would also like to know whether other people see what I'm getting at in the first thing. Moving target/delayed decision that I'm scum for a thing that was cool earlier.

Apart from that, now going to write up the BC post.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 00:33 GMT
#3982
rayn, how many times have we played together? How many times were you sure I'm scum? How many times were you correct?

(THIS DOES NOT MAKE ME SCUM BUT YOU DO NOT APPEAR TO BE GOOD AT READING ME AND ALSO YOU CONTINUE TO NOT BE GOOD AT READING ME)
Fe fi fo fum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#3983
On November 20 2013 09:23 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:22 Risen wrote:
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Scum slip aside, town you would understand that changing up your gameplay would be a wise thing to do as scum.


That'll be the day when I give my partners town reads and force myself to be linked to them

That would be... crazy....
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#3984
I prefer austin over thrawn.
Yes I said it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:36 GMT
#3985
Besides me who do you want to lynch tomorrow Risen.
Austin?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:36 GMT
#3986
^ not as lynch. But as townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2013 00:38 GMT
#3987
Thrawn asked me for a summary. Essentially.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2013 00:38 GMT
#3988
On November 20 2013 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayn/Thrawn I assume you have town reads on each other?

Yeah i think thrawn is pretty much the towniest town in the town.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2013 00:39 GMT
#3989
On November 20 2013 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayn/Thrawn I assume you have town reads on each other?

Yeah i think thrawn is pretty much the towniest town in the town.

I mean I don't agree with this or anything. I think I'm more obvious town than thrawn. But I'm baised.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2013 00:40 GMT
#3990
Show me how town you are VE?
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2013 00:40 GMT
#3991
I don't have to show you. You can just look at my filter and see that it's true.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2013 00:41 GMT
#3992
Go on take a look rayn.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2013 00:43 GMT
#3993
So you don't wanna claim town to me this game?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:44 GMT
#3994
I don't see why thrawn is obvious town at all. 50% of his filter is about BH and then some questions left and right sprinkled with advicelike reads.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2013 00:44 GMT
#3995
On November 20 2013 09:44 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why thrawn is obvious town at all. 50% of his filter is about BH and then some questions left and right sprinkled with advicelike reads.

thrawn is really really town. He has good thoughts and solid thought process in mason QT.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#3996
On November 20 2013 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:44 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why thrawn is obvious town at all. 50% of his filter is about BH and then some questions left and right sprinkled with advicelike reads.

thrawn is really really town. He has good thoughts and solid thought process in mason QT.

Yeah but not in the thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#3997
Vote Count:


Oatsmaster (0): supersoft, Pandain, Thrawn2112, VisceraEyes, Holyflare, supersoft

Holyflare (0): raynpelikoneet

Blazinghand (17): Pandain, Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, LoneMeow, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], Koshi, Onegu, Hopeless1der, BloodyC0bbler, VayneAuthority, Coagulation, VisceraEyes, Pandain, Mr Cheesecake, OOHCHILD, supersoft, Mig, Austin

Hopeless1der (0): thrawn2112

Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand, thrawn2112, thrawn2112

raynpelikoneet (0): Alakaslam, supersoft

Pandain (3): Risen, thrawn2112, Hopeless1der, thrawn2112

BloodyC0bbler (4): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Alakaslam, Artanis[Xp], Mattchew

Mattchew (0): Artanis[Xp]


Not voting: (1) Stutters695


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
Blazinghand is set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 20 2013 00:47 GMT
#3998
On November 20 2013 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayn/Thrawn I assume you have town reads on each other?

Yeah i think thrawn is pretty much the towniest town in the town.

Hey now
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:49 GMT
#3999
Yeah rayn, I don't see it in the thrawn filter at all. Maybe he is tricking you like you tricked him in Witchcraft. Like revenge.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 00:50 GMT
#4000
Care to post that filter so we can see it then?
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