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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:06 GMT
#3961
On November 20 2013 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Them being a possibility somehow means they're guaranteed to be in the setup?


It means it's dumb to rely on a vig to get things done. And you also shouldn't guide town sentiment towards shooting a specific person because then mafia would likely protect them
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 00:07 GMT
#3962
On November 20 2013 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i have now been waiting for your scumreads for five days austin.
Youstill seem to be having none. I hope you get lynched next.
I don't care how long you wait for anything from me

One day, we will play a nice happy game.
Fe fi fo fum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:08 GMT
#3963
Who do you think is scum austin besides BH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 00:11 GMT
#3964
On November 20 2013 09:07 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i have now been waiting for your scumreads for five days austin.
Youstill seem to be having none. I hope you get lynched next.
I don't care how long you wait for anything from me

One day, we will play a nice happy game.


So you wrote all of that up just to come to the same conclusion that almost everyone in the thread has? (lynch BH). I am going to wait for your other seperate posts on BC etc before I come to an actual conclusion on what you've done with your answers. You said in mason chat that you HAD to be a lot more aggressive today? Is that going to start?

Mig and Kush points are pretty useful at least.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 00:14 GMT
#3965
On November 20 2013 09:08 Pandain wrote:
Who do you think is scum austin besides BH
BC, thrawn looks good but I want to see if I'm overreacting to some stuff, thrawn post in the works now

On November 20 2013 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:07 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So i have now been waiting for your scumreads for five days austin.
Youstill seem to be having none. I hope you get lynched next.
I don't care how long you wait for anything from me

One day, we will play a nice happy game.


So you wrote all of that up just to come to the same conclusion that almost everyone in the thread has? (lynch BH). I am going to wait for your other seperate posts on BC etc before I come to an actual conclusion on what you've done with your answers. You said in mason chat that you HAD to be a lot more aggressive today? Is that going to start?

Mig and Kush points are pretty useful at least.
In friendly sarcastic mode, YES IT IS TOTALLY GONNA HAPPEN I'M JUST GONNA BE SUPER AGGRESSIVE FOR THE LAST 45 MINUTES OF THE DAY RAWR RAWR RAWR.

Got sidetracked, last 48 hours did not go as planned. Working on stuff now, but any aggression can't come D2 because D2 practically over.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 00:15 GMT
#3966
I meant in general of course Seeing as your point against BH was his illogical grack attack, I presume this will be similar for BC?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:15 GMT
#3967
Austin I just find it hard to believe that you can write so much and yet not try to figure out the most important thing in the game: who is scum
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:15 GMT
#3968
That is the definition of this game
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:17 GMT
#3969
Actually I'm agreeing with others you're probably scum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 20 2013 00:21 GMT
#3970
On November 20 2013 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Them being a possibility somehow means they're guaranteed to be in the setup?

It's what we in the business call a scum slip.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 20 2013 00:22 GMT
#3971
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Scum slip aside, town you would understand that changing up your gameplay would be a wise thing to do as scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:22 GMT
#3972
Your Thug life game is completely different.
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 01 2013 12:00 austinmcc wrote:
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On October 01 2013 11:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:41 austinmcc wrote:
I will tell you, but I need you to phrase your request as if I were a busty hot dog vendress and you were either (a) an intoxicated college student after a night of partying, just looking for a delicious hot dog before going home to pass out or (b) a guy who works at a dog grooming place down the street and regularly comes to the hot dog stand for Tuesday lunch.

No can do.
Surprise crying fit.
Post what you gotta and I'll read it when I can.
Koshi Koshi Bo Boshi

First third of http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&user=Koshi&view=all is one-liners, small questions, him playing with Grackaroni. He's rarely, if ever, engaging anyone else in the thread (occasionally mentioning you, but with regards to not wanting to see you fail or whatever, not with regard to any substantive read or chatting with you). 1/3 or 1/4 is that. But that 1/3 or 1/4 is important to me, because it represents Koshi playing the game BEFORE he became a RNG lynch.

BH makes his post, Koshi pops up. He has some mild interactions with the thread, disliking a case on rayn because rayn had been relatively vocal in talking about others.

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On September 28 2013 08:23 Koshi wrote:
Scumreads before I sleep and just maybe I can stop the retrdness. But prolly wont.
BH: Hopefully scum with grack or so. But this rng shit and how he handled it raped me in the ass. Also a smart play as scum actually 16/19 not in your team and you shit up the thread because the baddies keep mentioning it. Evetything else he does doesnt matter anymore.
Yamato: looks like his scumgames. Cases are good.
Grack: total scum. Going to get away with it. Who cares.
FT: looks policy lynch if yiu look at his previous games. But analysis on his posts points out he actually can be scum playing like. Dont.think what he did was not something FT as town couldnt.do but w.e.

Rest of the kids I dont care about yet. Also note I never had a strong scumread on WoS i just said that the town whining posts were good post if they came from scum. Like BH his rng lynch. 0123 am ffs
I looked at this, and hated this post.

BH is scum because RNG says vote Koshi. He has no ACTUAL reason to call BH scum here. There are good cases on Yamato. Grack is scum, but Koshi has been on grack all game with some justifications behind his scumread, so that one's substantiated in prior posts. FT ... that FT read is nothing. Other people point out he might be scum, but that gobbledegook doesn't actually give me a clear idea of what Koshi thinks about FT.

I hate that post because it's mushy and easy. Yamato and FT are being discussed. He's been on Grack all game. BH made his RNG post. Koshi has 1000000% not spoken up on a number of people, isn't making reads or presenting any information on a number of people, and is, at least based on his posts, kind of worried about being RNG lynched. But instead of really hunting, really poking around, he makes what feels like a very easy set of reads, 2 people that are being discussed as scum, the guy he keeps saying is scum, and BH.

I dunno, most of it stems from watching his posts hard after his initial FT post about FT making a "splash". He was someone I was paying particular attention to, and his entire D1 from the RNG point out is just him halfway worrying about being RNG-lynched, but nothing much else. Every post is still really short. Every post remains focused on this small group of players. He seems legitimately worried about being lynched, but not at looking outside the easy options for scum. Moreover, I remember a number of people dropping little koshi suspicions --> koshi normally posts more/better/more substantively. I remember SP making this post, believe there were 2-3 others.
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On September 28 2013 02:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
koshi is not that rapid fire style townie I would expect from him. Also I really do not agree with the reasoning he offered when I asked him about the Grack read


Throughout the whole day, apart from early banter with grack and calling grack scum, Koshi just doesn't DO anything of substance. He thinks he might get lynched, and his focus is on calling out easy alternatives, rather than really trying to build a case on someone hard-to-lynch (BH out of his choices) or someone who isn't being scrutinized/talked abotu already.

I'm going to stop rambling now. If there's a single post that struck me as scummy, it's the "splash" post about FT. It's moreso just about a lack of engagement with the game as a whole, posting a bunch while not really doing anything, and when he's supposedly super worried about getting lynched, never really doing much other than complaining that he might get lynched and talking about how everyone who finds him townie is town and everyone who finds him scummy is scum.

It's mostly thoughts, rather than a case, but WoS especially and whoever else is more than welcome to talk through some of this.


On October 01 2013 12:28 austinmcc wrote:
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On October 01 2013 12:07 strongandbig wrote:
Austin what do you think about my palmar case (and grack's case which is extra evidence for my case)

Also I get that you don't think ft is scum but what about shiaopi? He's currently the second realistic lynch option.
SP I didn't get much from D1, I got nothing in read-through notes on him and just remembered he was one of the folks making a Koshi comment.

As far as him being a lynch option today...will read through in the EST morning and respond more fully. I find myself almost never wanting to lynch ShiaoPi because his schedule is never synched with the thread's and it always feels like he's pushable as a mislynch in games he rolls town. Just...very very wary of any push to lynch ShiaoPi.

Strongandbig : Drazerk :: austinmcc : ShiaoPi

able to give actual opinions

And that's very early into day one.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:23 GMT
#3973
^ unlike that post indicates Koshi was really good in Thug life. Also town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:23 GMT
#3974
On November 20 2013 09:22 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Scum slip aside, town you would understand that changing up your gameplay would be a wise thing to do as scum.


That'll be the day when I give my partners town reads and force myself to be linked to them
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 00:25 GMT
#3975
On November 20 2013 09:15 Pandain wrote:
Austin I just find it hard to believe that you can write so much and yet not try to figure out the most important thing in the game: who is scum
I can write shartloads, I love me some writing. I am a spammy mofo.

(1) Figuring out who is town is also helpful
(2) Getting information into thread is also helpful and pro-town


(3)

This one's for everyone, and you can take it up post-game if you'd like. On D1, we had a mayoral lynch. When it became clear that I was not a mayoral candidate, I can call anyone/everyone/nobody scum, and it has mostly the same effect on the lynch. On N1, we actually do not lynch anyone. I can call anyone/everyone/nobody scum, and it has mostly the same effect on the lynch.

I just did not care about finding major scum suspects then. I wanted people to speak up, wanted reads from x on y, wanted a nice atmosphere, because to me, those things were MORE important than who I might find to be scum on D1/N1. I don't have a gun. I didn't have a lynch vote, and I don't get to lynch at night. I'd rather spend my time getting people active and getting stuff into thread that I can look at later.

Finding out who is scum is the MOST important, but it doesn't happen on its own. Finding town, getting people active, there are LOTS of things that yield finding scum besides be going "HERP IS SCUM AND DERP IS SCUM."
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2013 00:26 GMT
#3976
Holy shit. I definitely know what outs austin as scum now.
I don't wanna tell it though haha. I can tell you he is 100% scum. Lynch him the next day. Or vig him during night. That dude is scum! ^^
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:27 GMT
#3977
It is helpful, but it is only helpful in that you can further find scum. I find it hard you're playing a game where you only eliminate rather then find.

I agree you have gotten information for town but that does not mean that you yourself are town if you aren't even using that information to find someone.

And it's now an hour before night two and where are your reads?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 20 2013 00:28 GMT
#3978
On November 20 2013 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy shit. I definitely know what outs austin as scum now.
I don't wanna tell it though haha. I can tell you he is 100% scum. Lynch him the next day. Or vig him during night. That dude is scum! ^^


lol respond to my qt posts
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:29 GMT
#3979
Rayn/Thrawn I assume you have town reads on each other?
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 20 2013 00:31 GMT
#3980
I laughed at BC's post.

But seriously BC why are you still harping about grack. Grack told supersoft mocsta was probably the best person to kill just minutes before the lynch. Even if you think that doesn't clear him can you focus on people who didn't try to kill the mafias 2shot vig day1, there has to be better targets. Same for you thrawn.

supersoft are you still confident that BC is town? Also, pretty clearly rayn is not mafia. Maybe he is spamming the game up but read his chain mason plan and ask yourself if that is the sort of plan mafia would think of.

rayne why don't you want to share what outs austin as scum?

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