TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 199

On October 01 2013 12:00 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi Koshi Bo Boshi

First third of http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&user=Koshi&view=all is one-liners, small questions, him playing with Grackaroni. He's rarely, if ever, engaging anyone else in the thread (occasionally mentioning you, but with regards to not wanting to see you fail or whatever, not with regard to any substantive read or chatting with you). 1/3 or 1/4 is that. But that 1/3 or 1/4 is important to me, because it represents Koshi playing the game BEFORE he became a RNG lynch.

BH makes his post, Koshi pops up. He has some mild interactions with the thread, disliking a case on rayn because rayn had been relatively vocal in talking about others.

I looked at this, and hated this post.

BH is scum because RNG says vote Koshi. He has no ACTUAL reason to call BH scum here. There are good cases on Yamato. Grack is scum, but Koshi has been on grack all game with some justifications behind his scumread, so that one's substantiated in prior posts. FT ... that FT read is nothing. Other people point out he might be scum, but that gobbledegook doesn't actually give me a clear idea of what Koshi thinks about FT.

I hate that post because it's mushy and easy. Yamato and FT are being discussed. He's been on Grack all game. BH made his RNG post. Koshi has 1000000% not spoken up on a number of people, isn't making reads or presenting any information on a number of people, and is, at least based on his posts, kind of worried about being RNG lynched. But instead of really hunting, really poking around, he makes what feels like a very easy set of reads, 2 people that are being discussed as scum, the guy he keeps saying is scum, and BH.

I dunno, most of it stems from watching his posts hard after his initial FT post about FT making a "splash". He was someone I was paying particular attention to, and his entire D1 from the RNG point out is just him halfway worrying about being RNG-lynched, but nothing much else. Every post is still really short. Every post remains focused on this small group of players. He seems legitimately worried about being lynched, but not at looking outside the easy options for scum. Moreover, I remember a number of people dropping little koshi suspicions --> koshi normally posts more/better/more substantively. I remember SP making this post, believe there were 2-3 others.

Throughout the whole day, apart from early banter with grack and calling grack scum, Koshi just doesn't DO anything of substance. He thinks he might get lynched, and his focus is on calling out easy alternatives, rather than really trying to build a case on someone hard-to-lynch (BH out of his choices) or someone who isn't being scrutinized/talked abotu already.

I'm going to stop rambling now. If there's a single post that struck me as scummy, it's the "splash" post about FT. It's moreso just about a lack of engagement with the game as a whole, posting a bunch while not really doing anything, and when he's supposedly super worried about getting lynched, never really doing much other than complaining that he might get lynched and talking about how everyone who finds him townie is town and everyone who finds him scummy is scum.

It's mostly thoughts, rather than a case, but WoS especially and whoever else is more than welcome to talk through some of this.

On October 01 2013 12:28 austinmcc wrote:
SP I didn't get much from D1, I got nothing in read-through notes on him and just remembered he was one of the folks making a Koshi comment.

As far as him being a lynch option today...will read through in the EST morning and respond more fully. I find myself almost never wanting to lynch ShiaoPi because his schedule is never synched with the thread's and it always feels like he's pushable as a mislynch in games he rolls town. Just...very very wary of any push to lynch ShiaoPi.

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