TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 20

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Pandain
11-26-2013
01:25 AM ET (US)
Way to die on me
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Pandain
11-24-2013
09:36 PM ET (US)
what do you think of oats
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thrawn
11-24-2013
09:00 PM ET (US)
yeah. not as sure as I was though.. he voted for me but hasn't spent all that much time talking to the thread about me. if he really thinks I'm scum he's certainly not trying to get me lynched

lol godfucking dammit pandain I didn't even want to think about that possibility but now I am
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:50 PM ET (US)
You think Austin is town, right?
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:44 PM ET (US)
I don't think that has much bearing.

I played a game, White Flag mafia, and it was basically this scenario. We caught a scum and they couldn't be lynched or else they lost.

Guess what they did?
Exactly what Risen is doing.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
07:05 PM ET (US)
lol i agree 100% with what alak just posted in thread.... wifom diarrhea.

idk, i think i'm gonna have to see if he actually intends to get himself lynched.

>>>obviously don't post this next bit in thead<<<<

if he changes his mind about lynching himself then he is probably town. if he rides it out all the way and shows no interest in lynching a scumread, then probably scum
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Pandain
11-24-2013
07:00 PM ET (US)
I don't know, I've made my thoughts clear. No sense to barrage you though I think you're slightly scummy now.

Remember there are four scum btw.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
06:50 PM ET (US)
lol tbh i have no fucking clue what to think of or do with coag. i'm gonna have to do some meta research to figure that guy out
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thrawn
11-24-2013
06:49 PM ET (US)
1. Confirmed town basically Mig and Supersoft both had him as #1 target. SS got DOUBLE SHOT. If he was wrong, scum would have probably just took out two other townies, THEN killed SS after we mislynched.

>>I don't even consider this a reason. Pure nk wifom logic which I never partake of

2. He's martrying himself and it's completely illogical, wouldn't help town.

>>yeah this kinda pisses me off and confuses me, and it's the only reason that makes me doubt my read. as mig pointed out if we lynch scum then kp goes down by 1, so why doesn't he want this to happen? but it really doesn't make sense for him to martry as scum for the same reason, because scum kp would go down by 1. i have no idea what to make of him martrying, but his "town" explanation for why he's doing so makes sense if he truly thinks that there is no way he's not going to get lynched from now through the rest of the game.

3.He's changed reads constantly and they've all been weak. He thought I was scum for the mason logs lol.

>>>changing reads constantly is more of a town tell imo. can you show me why his read changes suit scum agenda based on who's flipped so far?

4. Besides his scum reads, he's had poor reasoning throughout. And how did we catch scum before? Poor reasoning: BC. It's more of a scum tell then I ever thought, and why I'm pressuring you and why despite you really having no good reasons WHY he's town, you're happy to say that a claimed mad hatter must be scum because he is basically being a dick in thread.

>>>i haven;t thought his posts have been illogical. his ability to make logical posts all throughout the last lynch when he was one of the main targets is what led me to think he's town in the first place
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:42 PM ET (US)
What do you think about coag.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:36 PM ET (US)
If Vayne is scum and Risen is town, there's no reason to ward a lynch away from him. Furthermore, if you're town, then there's no reason to simaeltaneously ward town away from two suspicious individuals. That doesn't make ANY sense. With four scum left, there's a limited supply of people who scum can cast suspicion on. Negating two of them is not helpful.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:35 PM ET (US)
There is so little reason to believe Risen is town that if you're debating this, then you're probably scum.

1. Confirmed town basically Mig and Supersoft both had him as #1 target. SS got DOUBLE SHOT. If he was wrong, scum would have probably just took out two other townies, THEN killed SS after we mislynched.

2. He's martrying himself and it's completely illogical, wouldn't help town.

3.He's changed reads constantly and they've all been weak. He thought I was scum for the mason logs lol.

4. Besides his scum reads, he's had poor reasoning throughout. And how did we catch scum before? Poor reasoning: BC. It's more of a scum tell then I ever thought, and why I'm pressuring you and why despite you really having no good reasons WHY he's town, you're happy to say that a claimed mad hatter must be scum because he is basically being a dick in thread.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
06:34 PM ET (US)
"if Vayne is scum, then Risen is most likely scum as well."

explain this
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:24 PM ET (US)
1. It doesn't change the fact and you haven't adddressed or simply are purposely ignoring the fact that if Vayne is scum, then Risen is most likely scum as well.

2. He did justify his reads before, they were just mostly crap and based on single post analysis, but Vayne has done that before

3. Risen is voting himself, who in his eyes must be a confirmed town read.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
06:20 PM ET (US)
Does it look like he's doing that? he is engaging in conversation with people in a way that looks like he actually wants them to change their minds? every time he gets into a discussion and things get to the nitty-gritty he clams up and plays the "fuck everyone I'm not gonna talk" card

it IS scummy because he';s not ACTUALLY trying to ward off the lynches. he's not trying to convince anyone of anything, be it his town reads or his scum reads

ffs he is voting his town read risen!
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:16 PM ET (US)
So he's trying to ward off town from the two top town lynches? Doesn't seem like a very scummy thing to do.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
06:09 PM ET (US)
Why not? Right now I'm thinking risen is town, and I'm town. So vayne's claiming to be town reading the two main lynches, and he's not willing to talk about or push his scumread! It's the perfect cover for not actually having to participate in discussion and he can go "I told you so" after the lynch

yeah I agree with you abhout koshi. I disagreed with his rayn case but I think he might have just been burned by losing to rayn in WC2 and was really paranoid about the same thing happening again. I was gonna rethink my read on him but he came back to the thread so I'm not worried about him for now.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
05:35 PM ET (US)
Think about it this way; Why would scum Vayne go against town sentiment if Risen is town.

ITS SO IMPORTANT for scum this lynch because it basically decides if they lose the game. 2kp into one if we lynch scum.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
05:31 PM ET (US)
Koshi is pretty solidly town in my eyes, his case on Rayn seemed very genuine.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
05:30 PM ET (US)
Vayne has a weird playstyle.

He was like this in ## which is why I was suspicious of him originally, and he failed in that game despite being "town" in everyone's eyes because he didn't actually argue anything. I could conceivably see him faking a mad hatter claim and simply now trying to do what he failed in ##.

The problem however, is that even if that is the case, it means that Risen is still likely scum because scum Vayne would only risk his neck out if he had to.
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thrawn
11-24-2013
05:15 PM ET (US)
i sent the pm like right after your initial post :p

my read on you had just took a turn for the better because you were actually tryng to talk with me and figure things out. I think mig is town too but I don't think he's willing to listen

can you tell me what you think about vayne? do you think his indignation and refusal to discuss his austin read is genuine?
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Pandain
11-24-2013
10:26 AM ET (US)
Why did you mason me and not mig
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
11-24-2013
06:47 AM ET (US)
thrawn + Pandain mason Day 4/Night 4