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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#6064
You also said you read the thread Thrawn, did you now or did you take a break, which I do understand as either alignment a lot of it was a shit fest.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 06:39 GMT
#6065
Thrawn you should mason me by the way if you want.

That or mig.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 06:42 GMT
#6068
You should mason mig
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 06:51 GMT
#6070
Thrawn not to be rude, but again you didn't answer my question of do you think its likely that the two scum both had grack and PUSHED grack.

And if not, even if its possible, if you instead could find someone else as scum.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 06:51 GMT
#6071
Why do you think Risen is town btw? I find his martyring quite un-townlike, and especially unlike a town risen
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:00 GMT
#6075
That one quote doesn't mean much, Vayne. BC has shown in his long post that basically said he hated everyone that he can fake emotion pretty well.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:08 GMT
#6077
Here's why I think Risen is scum:

1. Martying. Vayne, you hate martyrs. Now factor in the fact that it's Risen who is known to be really stubborn and play against odds(alone in WHC), and his solution is to ask for a town vig despite the fact that two have already been revealed?
On November 23 2013 05:08 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And once again your appeals to "that would be crazy!" are horrible if you're town, horrible if you're scum. Get on my level kids. World Heavyweight Champion OUT!

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


2. He thinks I'm mafia. I was pretty easy lynch-bait because I was quiet, but there weren't any real good reasons for voting me; at least not that he brought up. His arguments were trash and based around SS logs, which didn't make any sense.
This post so bad
On November 19 2013 16:56 Risen wrote:
Gut read. Haven't really read the thread. Scum did a good job clogging it up. I'll read up tomorrow and back up my gut read. Sum of the gut is pandain's interaction with people.


3.
On November 21 2013 10:22 Risen wrote:
Pandain #1 scum read
Grack policy lynch

I can be convinced to vote for someone not pandain (though I'll have to see something more) but will not be unvoting Grack..


but then later
On November 21 2013 10:28 Risen wrote:
Super is probably scum so...


So scum lynch is inferior to policy lynch?

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:10 GMT
#6079
On November 24 2013 16:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
then I don't think you are town honestly if you believe that quote "means nothing" One of you and austin is scum and you guys arent making it easy.


That quote does mean very little and I'm sorry to say that. If you base your instincts on Risen being town based on how BC critizied him early in day one for something BC is known to hate, then I think there are key things lacking.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:13 GMT
#6083
On November 24 2013 16:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright let me guess, BC randomly giving advice to slam has zero relevance too?


No I agree in that I think Slam is town.

I don't think that how you're attempting to prove people via single posts is the way to prove alignments, however.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:16 GMT
#6087
On November 24 2013 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
be nice to his teammates? what are you even talking about. im talking about where he blatantly says "Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town"

WHEN TOWN. i don't understand you people


Except it was in reference to Risen's quote which was:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town.


So it wasn't a slip or anything
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:17 GMT
#6089
On November 24 2013 16:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:13 Pandain wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright let me guess, BC randomly giving advice to slam has zero relevance too?


No I agree in that I think Slam is town.

I don't think that how you're attempting to prove people via single posts is the way to prove alignments, however.


how do you get slam town out of that? Why would BC randomly give advice to some guy he has no connection that I can see before this game?

I think this line of reasoning is very weak. BC could easily do it to appear town.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:18 GMT
#6092
On November 24 2013 16:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:16 Pandain wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
be nice to his teammates? what are you even talking about. im talking about where he blatantly says "Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town"

WHEN TOWN. i don't understand you people


Except it was in reference to Risen's quote which was:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town.


So it wasn't a slip or anything


how does that change anything? It doesn't matter if it's a slip or not. It's the phrasing


So my counter-argument is that there's better ways to prove someone is scum through analysis (see my post) then town because of phrasing (your post)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:20 GMT
#6095
Was that the only reason you thought Risen was town or do you have others?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:22 GMT
#6098
On November 24 2013 16:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 16:18 Pandain wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:16 Pandain wrote:
On November 24 2013 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
be nice to his teammates? what are you even talking about. im talking about where he blatantly says "Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town"

WHEN TOWN. i don't understand you people


Except it was in reference to Risen's quote which was:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town.


So it wasn't a slip or anything


how does that change anything? It doesn't matter if it's a slip or not. It's the phrasing


So my counter-argument is that there's better ways to prove someone is scum through analysis (see my post) then town because of phrasing (your post)


as some one that voted for rayn you really have no leverage in what is right or wrong. My reads have been fine if not great this game so there's nothing wrong with how I go about things.


If you're going to turn to ad-hominem then this discussion will end, then. Either you have more analysis and then you might actually convince people, or you'll have to stick to your gut on individual posts.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:23 GMT
#6099
Also there were more reasons for voting for Rayn then just if he was scum.
Notice how much better the thread is.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:24 GMT
#6102
I voted rayn = iyo my reasoning sucks = my reasoning must suck for this = as someone whos reasoning sucks, you have no right to say what's right or wrong.

thanks
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:25 GMT
#6103
Vayne, I'm sorry, but that's your fault then. Only two people died since yesterday
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:31 GMT
#6107
Quote for others btw.
On November 24 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
pandain is confirmed town, austin. BC tried to kill him. His vetclaim makes sense. He is town.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:39 GMT
#6111
Thrawn would you be up for lynching Coag?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 24 2013 07:40 GMT
#6112
Is anyone against Coag?
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