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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:32 Spaghetticus wrote: Again, Artanis would beg to differ.It's not like I didn't think him scum before his massively petty and bad mislynch... Why did people want him mayor? Honestly, I'm at a loss. What do you think of my Gracktease. | ||
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OOHCHILD
United States570 Posts
His point is that vayne is not steering town at all. He is saying that it's the steering that makes Vayne town, the fact that it is in the wrong direction is just an extension of him being scum. He isn't making any assumption about the correctness of vayne's reads this game. | ||
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OOHCHILD
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Spaghetticus
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On November 17 2013 23:40 OOHCHILD wrote: mocsta not meaning to defend grack right now, but I think you are misreading that. His point is that vayne is not steering town at all. He is saying that it's the steering that makes Vayne town, the fact that it is in the wrong direction is just an extension of him being scum. He isn't making any assumption about the correctness of vayne's reads this game. ^ You beat me to it. Mocsta, whether it be deliberate to give you wriggleroom in your meta or not, your cases spend far too much time honing in on ambiguous phrasing to be taken seriously. There are so many reasons why Grack is scummy, that you pick this one makes me almost think you want to make the evidence holistically weaker. He said that when Vayne is scum, he tries to steer town astray. That's a hypothetical situation right there. He's making a statement about what Vayne does when Vayne is scum. Given the context of the post, we can assume he does not think Vayne scum, because Vayne is not directing traffic at all… | ||
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Spaghetticus
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:40 OOHCHILD wrote: mocsta not meaning to defend grack right now, but I think you are misreading that. His point is that vayne is not steering town at all. He is saying that it's the steering that makes Vayne town, the fact that it is in the wrong direction is just an extension of him being scum. He isn't making any assumption about the correctness of vayne's reads this game. kk this time unedited On November 17 2013 08:35 Grackaroni wrote: What is with all of the Vayne attacks? He actually tries harder as scum and tries to steer town in the wrong direction. In golden sun he even wrote a case at the start of the day. All he cares about is that he hasn't been lynched as scum. I'm quite convinced he doesn't try as town to help his scum win rate. Note the surrender from ## mafia. Fair call on the interpretation. *PERHAPS* that was the original intent. My counter: Has Vayne had a lack of steering? If anything, Vayne has been quite forthcoming with his opinion on certain things. Especially for Day1 Vayne. As I stated earlier, I have never seen Vayne post coherently in succession before. The extension is that he is trying which is in contrast to your interpretation of Gracks statement. Surely, if Grack is confident enough to comment on Vayne, he is aware of the filter content of Vayne -- thus, leading to a mindset of information advantage either way. | ||
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OOHCHILD
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OOHCHILD
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Oatsmaster
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:51 OOHCHILD wrote: mocsta you ever play with town vayne? way more try hard i think. I played with him in Hogwarts and made a case on him before he was modkilled. He was town. I played with scum vayne in ?sicilian?. That game he was trolly but more in an aggro way than carefree. I recall one quote from Vayne saying he "RNGs his personalities" before a game starts. Either way he is difficult to read in general, but the filter doesn't lie. He has been forthcoming with his stances several times in the game. Enough such he is not of concern to me at this stage. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Honestly I think people put too much weight on metas, particularly since every game when someone is discussed they have all their tells given to them. If only there were some way for an intelligent organism to adjust their behaviour to adapt to environmental input? | ||
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OOHCHILD
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote: scum vayne is super tryhard. Oats, Whats up with you this game? | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:58 OOHCHILD wrote: doesn' t matter how right it is. Many players believe it to be true, so it's a standard, alignment null, metaread from grackster No. This is playing what I wrote down completely by lumping it into a general spiel category. | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:58 Spaghetticus wrote: Please repsond to my previous comments about VE on the previous page.If Vayne is playing a controlling game I've missed it, but I've also payed very little attention to them. Honestly I think people put too much weight on metas, particularly since every game when someone is discussed they have all their tells given to them. If only there were some way for an intelligent organism to adjust their behaviour to adapt to environmental input? | ||
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OOHCHILD
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Spaghetticus
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On November 17 2013 23:26 Mocsta wrote: Artanis won't believe yoiu just said that... ohh my my Spag A mayor choosing a mislynch does not equate to the mayor being scum. Get over it. This? I responded with On November 17 2013 23:30 Spaghetticus wrote: Mocsta The mayor mislynching does not make someone scum, but that's not what I was saying... so... He chose to kill the only other person on his arse. I'd really like to see anything that singled Skanjab out for scum other than that he did not like VE. There were plenty of candidates... He's not playing a town game, he's playing a VE game, and that could quite possibly mean a scum game. It's not like I didn't think him scum before his massively petty and bad mislynch... Why did people want him mayor? Honestly, I'm at a loss. Oh the Artanis thing? Your red was broken. I don't understand what you mean. What's the issue? | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 17 2013 23:38 Mocsta wrote: *snip* Why are you so certain he is not playing a "town game"? How well do you know VE... have you even played with him before? | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 18 2013 00:04 OOHCHILD wrote: Your cases the suck this game mocsta. Many people have commented on it. Are you disagreeing with my opinion on that post; or disagreeing that Grack is scum? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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