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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2101
fuck.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2102
Can we now lynch Pandain?
table for two on a tv tray
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2103
are you kidding VE?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2104
On November 17 2013 10:02 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
My town reads are usually right idk if that helps


Which posts give you that impression? We have 15 minutes until I probably have to decide. I doubt that VE shows up and even if he shows up, i guess he'll consider mocsta, too...


Town reads are the only thing I'm comfortable with. In previous games whenever I thought someone was town I was usually right. It's the people I'm not sure about vs. scum who I have a problem with, almost never with who is town.
See Clarity_NL in a previous game .
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2105
Or does town have 3 masons?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2106
Well there goes 100%.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#2107
Like that I was right about Skanjabs thanks everyone
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#2108
Pandain can you answer my questions.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#2109
On November 17 2013 10:10 Pandain wrote:
Like that I was right about Skanjabs thanks everyone

Like you could not possibly know his alignment from his posts.
Like yuo said FT is town in Thug Life. Like you do as scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:11 GMT
#2110
Please refer them to me.

I wasn't absolutely sure but I didn't think a scum player would play like that.

And yes, I got quite good at evaluating who is town and simply who is suspicious by being scum three times in a row. Unfortunately that doesn't hold true for suspicious into scum.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2013 01:14 GMT
#2111
thrawn2112 is replacing hiro protagonist, effective immediately
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 01:15 GMT
#2112
So Pandain is LM scum?
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 01:15 GMT
#2113
I'm curious about what caused the change of heart on Storrzerg.
I want to know whether you think BH would claim at a dumb time as town.
I want to know why you have Mocsta as a town read? Is it purely based on his effort in the game?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
November 17 2013 01:17 GMT
#2114
it was Fine time to claim
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 01:18 GMT
#2115
On November 17 2013 10:17 Blazinghand wrote:
it was Fine time to claim

I was probably more likely to be lynched than you lol.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2116
I still think Storrzerg is suspicious, I simply found others who I might be more confident in. Namely Vayne and Rayn and BH.

Yes I do think he would. That's the worst thing and why I favor a Rayn lynch first. However even though I think he would do it as town I find it distinctly anti-town as it would motivate trackers to counter-claim. That is what I'm caught up on and he never addressed it.

Mocsta in my previous games I think he's always been town. I don't know what his scum play would look like but it's not this. To be frank, bad reads with a lot of effort with weird arguments are making me think he's town. This is what he's done in previous games. Scum try to hide from doing obvious bad arguments and the Mocsta post was unforced and bad. All this is making me think he's town. And yes the effort does help him though I don't think he couldn't do it as scum.

That was my first thought. re-reading him his non-analysis cases make me lean towards scum, especially this post
On November 15 2013 23:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

It's bad because we lynch BC if he is scum and we don't lynch him if he is town.
The argument of weighing the pros and cons of lynching him is nonsense.

there's a difference thinking someone is scum and wanting to lynch them.

I'm not going to say anything else on the matter.

we can agree to disagree.


but I definitely don't think he would have been a good lynch today or a good lynch tomorrow. I don't think he'll ever buss much because if he does he'll be alone by the end and a sole scum Mocsta should be easy to find anyway.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2117
actually a pretty good lynch, LM should be heavily scrutinized at this point. I don't think pandain would actually call me scum if he was scum since it just looks so irrational. It would really be a stretch.

Also btw, if history tells us anything, one of the people in power are scum
I come in for the scraps
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2118
On November 17 2013 10:17 Blazinghand wrote:
it was Fine time to claim


hey welcome after the lynch
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2119
sup

HEY KOSHI <3
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:22 GMT
#2120
On November 17 2013 10:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
actually a pretty good lynch, LM should be heavily scrutinized at this point. I don't think pandain would actually call me scum if he was scum since it just looks so irrational. It would really be a stretch.

Also btw, if history tells us anything, one of the people in power are scum


I heavily doubt it unless scum went balls to the walls and voted for their scum mate. That means one of their members has to be one of the towniest looking people in Yam, VE, or SS. So your argument relies on the fact that one of the towniest members is not townie because scum had to try for mayor which isn't true at all.

In fact that's why I'm suspicious of those who didn't vote SS because I do believe him to be the best analyzer .
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