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On November 09 2013 03:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
WoS I get what you mean about Onegu having a transparent thought process. The problem is that his justifications are very weak and the thought process only goes surface deep. When Onegu tells me why he wants to lynch somebody it's either because of non-scumhunting reasons such as player skill, or reasons that I would never be comfortable in using to call somebody mafia. It's not hard to construct a superficial fiction. Onegu is very tricky like rayn said and will say anything. You can't point to something he says and go "scum would never do/say this" because scum onegu will.
To this day I have never, let me repeat, NEVER seen a scummer who is about to be lynched provide a list of pre-death reads and actively attempt to provide town with everything asked of him.
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On November 09 2013 03:56 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 03:54 Onegu wrote:
Cephiro hasnt done much this game except tunnel WoS, but there was alot of effort. Also he was the hammer on gumshoe and I never really see scum wanting to be the hammer on day 1. Yes he contridicts himseld talking about how a no lynch is better, and then drives the nail in. I think scum would have been ok with a no lynch because it would have derived town of info, they get a free kill, and another wasted day while we lynch gumshoe day two because he was one vote short.
What does this mean? What is your conclusion? Most of that is a description of his filter.
That he is null to me and I dont have a good read on him, same with ET. I went and reread thier filters and still dont get anything to push them in one direcrion or the other.
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Will be around for deadline, returning in an hour or so. Never knew getting used to a smartphone could be this tricky.
Need to catch up the last few pages, not too many. I've got a fairly good grasp on the situation on hand. Lots of analysis is to be provided.
Syl, get off me, you're wasting your time. Find the real scum instead.
I'll address accusations and questions towards me presented in the thread as first priority, with analysis after. See you soon enough.
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On November 09 2013 04:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 03:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
WoS I get what you mean about Onegu having a transparent thought process. The problem is that his justifications are very weak and the thought process only goes surface deep. When Onegu tells me why he wants to lynch somebody it's either because of non-scumhunting reasons such as player skill, or reasons that I would never be comfortable in using to call somebody mafia. It's not hard to construct a superficial fiction. Onegu is very tricky like rayn said and will say anything. You can't point to something he says and go "scum would never do/say this" because scum onegu will. To this day I have never, let me repeat, NEVER seen a scummer who is about to be lynched provide a list of pre-death reads and actively attempt to provide town with everything asked of him.
i guess the part where we disagree is that you think his reads are reads and i don't? what are the lynches you could go for today? what about syl?
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in order of preference
ONEGUE
sylencia
ceph. more policy and a wildcard lynch than anything
that being said i'm still not ready to back down on onegu
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Vote Count Day 2
Sylencia (0): thrawn2112
Hopeless1der (0): thrawn2112
raynpelikoneet (0): WaveofShadow, Onegu, Koshi
Onegu (5): thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112, WaveofShadow, Koshi, Koshi, WaveofShadow, Sn0_Man
Cephiro (2): Sylencia, Umasi
Vanseco (0): Umasi
Sn0_Man (2): Vanesco, Hopeless1der
Koshi (1): Onegu
Umasi (0): WaveofShadow
Not voting (1): Cephiro
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Currently no-one is set to be lynched! Day 2 ends in hours at Friday, Nov 08 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
Make sure to cast your TWO witchcraft votes to both Blazinghand and Ange777.
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Sn0 and Umasi. Same as yesterday.
Rayn I'm flip-flopping on a lot. I really hate how quick he agreed to my 'deal' because I would expect a scumRayn to be very confident he could throw the rest of town (and me as well) off of his case in a full 72 hours, and less a show of how confident he is that Onegu is scum as town, but then his weird incredulity of me recently with regards to Onegu is very reminiscent of how he acts as town towards me.
As far as Syl---I dunno nothing he's done has bugged me a whole lot aside from what hzflank pointed out yesterday....what are the recent points for/against him? I don't think I;ve looked.
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On November 09 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sn0 and Umasi. Same as yesterday.
Rayn I'm flip-flopping on a lot. I really hate how quick he agreed to my 'deal' because I would expect a scumRayn to be very confident he could throw the rest of town (and me as well) off of his case in a full 72 hours, and less a show of how confident he is that Onegu is scum as town, but then his weird incredulity of me recently with regards to Onegu is very reminiscent of how he acts as town towards me.
As far as Syl---I dunno nothing he's done has bugged me a whole lot aside from what hzflank pointed out yesterday....what are the recent points for/against him? I don't think I;ve looked.
sylencia and sneaky contain 5 of the same letters
sneaky = mafia
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thrawn do you think there are scum on ceph or sn0 right now as the 'semi-competing' wagons?
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On November 09 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
thrawn do you think there are scum on ceph or sn0 right now as the 'semi-competing' wagons?
i think there's a chance syl is bussing ceph because of how horribly the scum team had been playing in D2. of course this changes completely based on whatever onegu flips
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syl votes for ET D1, then
On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro
Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.
Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.
In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.
"lets pay attention to hopeless"
On November 08 2013 10:37 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you have anything to say about Onegu? look at syl's reply On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro
Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.
Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.
In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others. -could lynch hopeless -people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2 the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn? sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless? There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.
"nvm lets ignore hopeless"
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goddamn you guys.. why don't we just lynch scum?
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wos if me you and thrawn are all town how do you think scum are able to push anything lol?
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Ok Im going to sleep do you want to know my blue votes from day 1?
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On November 09 2013 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wos if me you and thrawn are all town how do you think scum are able to push anything lol?
This is an interesting point.
Can you lead me into this a little? What have scum been doing today and what is their plan if this is true? At any point have they been complacent in where the lynch has been going or trying to lead us towards or away from anyone?
I will forget that I don't necessarily include you in the 'all of us town' thing for the purposes of this conversation.
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Cephiro (2): Sylencia, Umasi
Sn0_Man (2): Vanesco, Hopeless1der
Does that tell anything about Cephiro or Sno? No.
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On November 09 2013 04:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im going to sleep do you want to know my blue votes from day 1?
I guess so? Idk.
Before you go to sleep I'd like you to give your bestest best explanation behind your top scum read. Also I'd like for you to give town advice on what to do after your lynch.
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On November 09 2013 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wos if me you and thrawn are all town how do you think scum are able to push anything lol? This is an interesting point. Can you lead me into this a little? What have scum been doing today and what is their plan if this is true? At any point have they been complacent in where the lynch has been going or trying to lead us towards or away from anyone? I will forget that I don't necessarily include you in the 'all of us town' thing for the purposes of this conversation.
I have no idea, to not get lynched and maybe some other lurker gets lynched...
How the fuck do i know.
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You guys are way too complacent in your scumreads, and are not helping me discuss shit.
Worst fucking town circle ever.
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On November 09 2013 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
You guys are way too complacent in your scumreads, and are not helping me discuss shit.
Worst fucking town circle ever.
lol don't ask me to be your marv and then come into the thread not knowing what the points against sylencia are because I have written much and more about him
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EPT
