On November 09 2013 02:42 Vanesco wrote:
Onegu so I kinda was waiting a bit to see if you would explain your reasoning for voting off hzflank/koshi but you didn't and it seems like this trend happens way too much this game where people just give a vote and don't give any reasoning why. So what is your reason for your vote?

I have already quoted it twice, do I need to do so a third time?

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:01 GMT

#1195

I had always has hz as scum, I had a slightly bigger scum read on hz than rayn. But rayn was the more dangerous player so I voted rayn, when koshi replaced in, he isnt as new as hz was and a better player imo, so my reasoning for voteing rayn over koshi orginaly was gone so I voted koshi.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:08 GMT

#1203

On November 09 2013 03:04 thrawn2112 wrote:

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ok so....

-hzflank is scum, rayn voted for hzflank so rayn must be scum too (btw, lots of other people voted for hzflank i dont see you doing analysis on their votes)

-but rayn is more dangerous so lynch him for the crime of "saving" hzflnak

-koshi is better than hzflank so vote for koshi

dude your reasons have nothing to do with scumhunting...everyone lynch this guy

You not see anything else I wrote on rayn? And the reason I am looking at mostly rayn on the hz wagon switch is because it was rayn who started it, and he started it without doing a vote switch immeditely.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:14 GMT

#1206

So Im off to bed soon, Ill post my updated reads soon and why I think some people are town or null, Im kinda locked in on myscum team though.

Should I give out my day 1 WC votes so people know and can compare if need be later? I wont give todays votes though.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:41 GMT

#1209

1 WoS- Town he basicly stopped my mislynch from happening day 1, as scum it would have been so easy to just hammer it home not risking a wagon on a scummate form.

3 Cephiro- null will go into more detail in a bit

4 sylencia- town he has been very transparant with his reads, yes he hasnt been very active, but day 1 I agreed with most of his thoughts. Also I have played scum with him and this game feels nothing like desert where he was much more active in pushing a scum agenda

5 sn0 - scum sn0 has basicly done nothing this entire game but push my lynch because he cannot read me. His vote on gumshoe was bad and his reasoning and posts after the flip dont seem like town to me.

7 thrawn - town Basicly if he is mafia he deserves the win, the most active person in push his reads, he is town captian atm and basicly our last hope

8 umasi - town I dont really carw for his case on vas but his tunnel I dont see comeing from a scum point of view. Also he has questioned things that needed to be put out there.

9 Onegu- town

10 ET/Hopeless - null to slightly scummy more on him comeing up

11 hzflank/koshi - scum hz cases were really forced to me, also how he acts when the wagon was formed on him looks scummy and angry that people were voteing him with little reason. Koshi is stalling to not get lynched this cycle.

12 vanesco - null/slightly town the only thing that bothers me about him was early day one when he caved to pressure. His cases are fleshed out and clear.

13 rayn- scum Saveing hzflank, calling me out for the wrong reasons. And a few other things, really it is my gut telling me he is scum and I cannot convey why well to town but I have learned to trust my gut.

Ok I will flesh out the other reads that are null to me and what I think now.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:54 GMT

#1214

Cephiro hasnt done much this game except tunnel WoS, but there was alot of effort. Also he was the hammer on gumshoe and I never really see scum wanting to be the hammer on day 1. Yes he contridicts himseld talking about how a no lynch is better, and then drives the nail in. I think scum would have been ok with a no lynch because it would have derived town of info, they get a free kill, and another wasted day while we lynch gumshoe day two because he was one vote short.

ET/Hopeless just seems completely different from hogwarts where he was wishy washy and never had a firm stance on something. Here he pushes his reads hard with questions and legit cases.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 18:56 GMT

#1216

On November 09 2013 03:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu, based on koshi's posts today do you really think he's mafia?

Yes everything koshi has written is alignment neutral. All of it is basicly stalling, and wifom. He tries to look town with his random questions a bit to hard imo.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 19:00 GMT

#1219

On November 09 2013 03:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
WoS I get what you mean about Onegu having a transparent thought process. The problem is that his justifications are very weak and the thought process only goes surface deep. When Onegu tells me why he wants to lynch somebody it's either because of non-scumhunting reasons such as player skill, or reasons that I would never be comfortable in using to call somebody mafia. It's not hard to construct a superficial fiction. Onegu is very tricky like rayn said and will say anything. You can't point to something he says and go "scum would never do/say this" because scum onegu will.

This is very true. There are some lines I wont cross but I am completely open to makeing big plays as scum and attempting to do anything I can to not die as scum. But also I did try to play this game better as town, compare my filter legnth in desert and hogwarts where I made it to mylo both games compared to this game where i was in the hospital and gone for 18 hours.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 19:01 GMT

#1220

On November 09 2013 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote:

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at the start of D1 you said you were voting rayn over hzflank because scum rayn is a bigger threat than scum hzflank. Do you think that scum koshi is a bigger threat than scum rayn?

No but the gap isnt as big as it was with hz. And since my case on hz/koshi is a bit stronger voteing for koshi is better than rayn atm.

Onegu

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November 08 2013 19:03 GMT

#1222

On November 09 2013 03:56 thrawn2112 wrote:

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What does this mean? What is your conclusion? Most of that is a description of his filter.

That he is null to me and I dont have a good read on him, same with ET. I went and reread thier filters and still dont get anything to push them in one direcrion or the other.