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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 20:12 GMT
#880
This feels like rayn from the end of that game to me. Or close enough that I'm giving him a pass for now. I always give rayn a hard look at mid-game, which is still the plan, but at the start like this I disagree that he looks scummy.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 20:24 GMT
#886
? seems legit to me.

Thrawn goes "OO's playing weird as fuck. I've never seen anything like this"
Then he goes "Wait, I *have* seen this before. Who was it... Oh yeah Dandel did this in BEMMII" (I (sn0) casually read that game myself btw)
Then he's like "Well the only time i've ever seen this was when dandel was doing it as scum so it seems like scum to me".

Thats how I saw it at least. Plus or minus my points about him being over defensive for no reason and playing with a mindset that I can only see as scummy.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 22:05 GMT
#893
o.o

Well can't say I'm terribly sad.

Wat happened to ET tho?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 22:11 GMT
#896
R U scum?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 22:21 GMT
#899
Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything.

I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant.

Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 06 2013 22:21 GMT
#900
EBWOP was @hopeless
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 15:35 GMT
#990
If a voted-blue dies to the blue-vig ability, do they flip green or blue?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 15:36 GMT
#991
In other news the arguments against Onegu are reasonable.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 16:26 GMT
#993
Dammit, I thought I remembered something like that but I perused the OP and all I saw was "This is question font" in green and bold, as well as "Feel free to ask a question at any time" in nice blue bold modfont. Didn't think it would be in the Q+A (which I did read at one point). BRB pming u.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#994
Errybody's afk or something.

It is possible that OO died from silver bullet and that the actual NK was either roleblocked (as it is personally delivered not factional) or Doctored. Either way, I'm interested to know if people voted for OO to be witchcrafted (Since he is dead there is no drawback to people admitting they voted him).

I, personally, did not vote him (for obvious reasons) but I'm aware he had townreads from some/many.

Part of the reason I bring this up is that I would have expected scum to spend AT LEAST 1 silver bullet last night. The rewards for killing the blues BEFORE their actions occur seem too high to pass up considering the limited amount of people I'd expect to get votes. If OO was indeed killed by silver bullet, some blue role would like VERY much to know that as they know their save hit town for example (Or their RB hit scum).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 18:29 GMT
#996
Well scum have 2, also the silver bullet resolves at the end of the "Phase" which means if fired at night it resolves with the daypost (as we saw).

Discussing who voted for OO is pretty safe IMO, since scum know if he was blue or if he died to their NK anyway. Admittedly if they NK'd him they don't know if he was blue. Okay maybe we talk about it after this lynch?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 18:40 GMT
#998
I like the points against onegu, Syl's vote was WTF, my current biggest concern is that you are still alive. While I agree with (almost) all the things you say you being alive is giving me misgivings because I would have expected you to die.

Which is why I'm trying to figure out what happened last night since if OO was a blue shot then I can believe that you were targetted but saved for example. That would give me more confidence in your reads. Vets who push a mislynch D1 then go "WHOAH COMPLETE 180 ON MY READS GUYS" and are still alive D2 smell funny to me. I agree with your points but hnnnnng smells funny. So I'm looking for certainty there.

There are 2 1-shot witch hunters read the OP lol.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#1000
Barring shenannies I usually expect my strongest townread to die every night. When they dont, (and instead its somebody I thought was pretty scummy) Alarm bells go off. I must not be thinking this game right. My solution to that would be if OO was a blue shot, then my reads can still be somewhat reasonable.

W/e, discussing it with u isn't helping I don't think.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 19:58 GMT
#1002
Hi Kosheep

Hue
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 20:14 GMT
#1007
You were like 15 mins from getting lynched day 1 until a MASSIVE rush-switch onto gumshoe. Mostly because people didn't really have excellent reasons to vote you but it was majority lynch so we needed to vote somebody

Theres definitely still suspicion in ur camp.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 20:17 GMT
#1011
Koshi if u tell us who ur scumbuddies r we promise to lynch u last.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 07 2013 21:00 GMT
#1016
ET did that replace thing. Its Hopeles1der now.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 15:53 GMT
#1115
On November 08 2013 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
In other news:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 00:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
If a voted-blue dies to the blue-vig ability, do they flip green or blue?

This raised the hackles on the back of my neck. The best part about this is I could 100% see scum asking this question. No it's not entirely alignment indicative, but it makes MORE sense to me for scum to purposefully write it in the thread to use a mod-question to game people into thinking they are town for whatever reason, ESPECIALLY if he KNEW his question was not going to be answered in thread. A lot of that is conjecture but it's simply how I feel. Make of it what you will.

Welcome to "WoS makes up shit", part 1. A) it was answered in thread B) Hows it make more sense for scum to ask a question that they know the answer to than for town to ask a question when they, you know, have a question?
WoS knows he's full of shit so he's already backing off this post before he finishes writing it, but he feels the need to post it anyway.
On November 08 2013 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 03:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
Errybody's afk or something.

It is possible that OO died from silver bullet and that the actual NK was either roleblocked (as it is personally delivered not factional) or Doctored. Either way, I'm interested to know if people voted for OO to be witchcrafted (Since he is dead there is no drawback to people admitting they voted him).

I, personally, did not vote him (for obvious reasons) but I'm aware he had townreads from some/many.

Part of the reason I bring this up is that I would have expected scum to spend AT LEAST 1 silver bullet last night. The rewards for killing the blues BEFORE their actions occur seem too high to pass up considering the limited amount of people I'd expect to get votes. If OO was indeed killed by silver bullet, some blue role would like VERY much to know that as they know their save hit town for example (Or their RB hit scum).

This reads like scum fishing for witchcraft vote analysis, when I'm pretty sure nobody wanted to claim votes this early. (or at all?)
Why in all that is holy would town Sn0's first assumption be that he was hit by a witchcraft bullet and that scum have spent it this early in the game? Not only did OO look increasingly less towny as the game progressed (in my opinion) but to also assume that most of the rest of town would have assumed he WAS towny enough to receive some high number of votes AND that scum would have assumed he would be a good shot for that reason is absolutely ridiculous.

WoS makes up shit, part 2.
1) It is absolutely not witchraft vote analysis. OO is dead and as such knowing if he was blue or not can't hurt town (the old blues have no powers by now anyway). I merely am trying to ascertain which bullet killed WoS.
It was absolutely not my "first assumption" you are just trying to paint me scummy. I am trying to SOLVE THE GAME (a worthwhile pursuit last I heard) and one of the open questionmarks is how and why OO died. I made absolutely NO assumptions regarding OO's vote total, how scum percieved him, etc. Basically you are completely and utterly misrepresenting me. I merely was considering getting more info so that I could make EDUCATED guesses regarding how he died. All your points that suggest he may not have been a silver bullet shot ALSO suggest he wasn't a normal KP so what gives? Thats what I want to know. I think its more likely he was a Silver Bullet than a KP for the reasons given.
On November 08 2013 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 03:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
I like the points against onegu, Syl's vote was WTF, my current biggest concern is that you are still alive. While I agree with (almost) all the things you say you being alive is giving me misgivings because I would have expected you to die.

Which is why I'm trying to figure out what happened last night since if OO was a blue shot then I can believe that you were targetted but saved for example. That would give me more confidence in your reads. Vets who push a mislynch D1 then go "WHOAH COMPLETE 180 ON MY READS GUYS" and are still alive D2 smell funny to me. I agree with your points but hnnnnng smells funny. So I'm looking for certainty there.

There are 2 1-shot witch hunters read the OP lol.

thrawn pointed this out already, but to be pointing out suspicions that someone is still alive after D1?! Shit spreading. Classic mafia tactic.

Apologies for being transparent and sharing my thoughts and concerns. My post explicitly states that "I'm looking for certainty" not "zomg thrawn scum lynch!11!11One".
On November 08 2013 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
I hereby regret saving Sn0 yesterday and it appears we are now back where we started; the D2 lynch will probably amount to either Onegu or Sn0 in my eyes.

Grats.

@Thread: apologies this is kinda long. Blame WoS.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#1117
PS: If you think about how this game works it makes the most sense for scum to fire off AT LEAST 1 silver bullet the first night when there are 3 blue roles. Not only does this get you ahead early and hopefully give you thread control, but it also has pretty damn good chances of hitting a blue compared to when there is only 2 or 1 (and 1 comes pretty soon). Plus the more KP scum gets out early the less blues there are in the following days due to how the witchraft voting works.

It is also optimal for scum to shoot during the night since their shots resolve at phase-end (aka same day/night as the shot) which means any investigative role will not be able to reveal results. So I EXPECTED multiple deaths N1.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 08 2013 16:07 GMT
#1125
I just explained why scum ought to be shooting off at least one silver bullet N1. Your explanation reads: "Please town, don't figure out the game".

See, you say he's a bad NK. We agree. Thats why I think he wasn't the NK. But you won't entertain that.

How the hell would I know who scum is? I never do lol. Currently on the "sheep thrawn" plan (hence my semi-paranoid fears regarding him). Next up is the LYNCH YOU plan cuz not only is this nothing like Town!WoS, you also are actively stomping on my perfectly reasonable discussion and flinging shit at me in the exact manner you accused me of doing to others.
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