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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 10:21 GMT
#837
On November 06 2013 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 18:56 Onegu wrote:
On November 06 2013 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Iunno Onegu, what do you think about the fact that last game WoS did the exact same thing, as town?



Its a bit different I think his self vote was basicly out of fustration. Mine was because it is majority and I would rather people see my flip and who voted me then a no lynch that gives scum a free shot and town zero info. It just seems to easy to hammer my lynch down than to find another lynch for him as scum, add this to the fact he didnt really push another lynch until Hzflank. As scum it seems with his activity level he would find someone else to jump on.

So in your opinion WoS is town because he did not hammer your lynch through because you selfvoted, which you thought was the best option for town. Instead WoS did the opposite, which based on your posts is what scum would want to do (as you say this: "I would rather people see my flip and who voted me then a no lynch that gives scum a free shot and town zero info"). This is exactly what WoS did by your definition. So could you explain the logic behind giving townie points to him for that action?



I couldnt be around for deadline he could, if you can push some who you think is scum and get them lynched, its better, but a town lynch is better than a no lynch imo. Obv lynching scum is better than lynching town. If he got a town read on me from that as town he would unvote and scum hunt, as scum its more likely to just hammer my lynch home.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 10:28 GMT
#838
Its not like he made a no lynch go through by unvoteing me, he unvoted me because he didnt see a scum me self voteing.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 10:34 GMT
#840
Ill be back in a few
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 10:34 GMT
#841
On November 06 2013 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well did he in your opinion try to hunt scum after unvoting you?



No not really, he kinda pushed hz later in the day. Brb
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 13:18 GMT
#842
Sn0 looks really bad now, I dont like his comments on the lynch. And he really hasnt done anything either.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#849
It makes sense to me if that counts...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 03:24 GMT
#910
On November 07 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is what Onegu did in Desert final day:
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On September 12 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would you, as town, in MYLO, say "I think Sno is scum, i'm okay with no-lynch, i am voting for yamato"??
Why?

And we did not lynch him for it. :p

Anyways good night.



This is such BS I played that game well, I made this one slip at the end and then worked my way out of it to not get lynched. And In hogwarts the only person with a scum read on me was the vigi and mostly because I had a red check. When people call me scum for BS meta usally flip scum (ie FirmTofu in persona)

2 people have done it so far this game sn0 and now rayn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#914
On November 06 2013 06:54 hzflank wrote:
Tbh I'd also be down with an Onegu lynch if needs be, certainly preferable to my own lynch.



Why were you down my lynch you only mentioned me marytring and never said how that was alignment indicative.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 03:59 GMT
#915
On November 06 2013 06:32 hzflank wrote:
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On November 06 2013 06:26 Umasi wrote:
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation


Oh don't worry, people's votes on me make no sense, therefore I am relying on them not sticking.

For example, WoS tends to think that people are town when they are reading the game in a similar fashion to him, right? Remember when I pushed you and WoS said "I was going to do that" or when I read Syl and WoS said they he read it the same way I did? WoS does not think I am scum, WoS wants me to be scum because I offended him and/or he saw my ego in full effect when he coached me. His vote can still change.

As for Thrawn and ET, well they are defaulting to me because they have no one better to vote for and they did not like my case on Sn0. The thing is, if you read me carefully you will noticed that my case on Sn0 was never meant to be pushed. In that portion of the game I actually thought that Umasi and ET were scum. The case on Sn0 was an attempt to engage him which failed. The case was also an attempt to make people view him in a more negative light so that I could see what people said about him when he appeared to be a somewhat easy lynch.

People don't really think that I am scum yet still want to lynch me D1. Reminds me of the White flag game that just ended



I really dont like this post either, looking at this some of the votes on you did make sense. Your vote on umasi early was forced imo.

The second part I dont understand at all, ok he agrees with you on somethings, why does that make him have to have a town read on you when he disagrees with you on other things.

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:08 GMT
#916
Also look who saved HZflank. It looks kinda innocent, but its not. He doesnt change his vote right away he just kinda throws it out there. I think scum were kinda forced to do it also, so before you say it was a risky play, he doesnt unvote, he just throws a innocent looking play out there, and which is more risky letting a scum lynch go through and let town keep 3 blue roles for 2 straight nights. Or subtlely try to change the lynch target and see if anyone latches onto it?

##VOTE RAYN
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:18 GMT
#918
On November 07 2013 13:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
Onegu are you mafia?

I see you spend time making hzflank out to be scum, you decide that rayn is scum for letting the scum hzflank slip through? Why not just vote for hzflank then? Oh right, because WoS is already pushing a rayn lynch. Did I get that right?



I think they are both scum.... I just pointed that out.... I am ok with either lynch.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:18 GMT
#919
But out of the 2 I would prefer to get rid of the more dangerous one first.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:41 GMT
#926
I guess its been so long since I rolled town in a mini people just dont remember how I play. I go on feel and I point stuff out as I feel it, so what I dont mention him until now. And I was talking about how rayn got the gumshoe lynch to go through, I didnt say anything about my lynch.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:42 GMT
#927
On November 07 2013 13:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also sorry thrawn having severe idgaf issues right now.
I'll get to the stuff I promised eventually.


yeah I know. but forget about ET and rayn for now because this vote onegu just made is crazy. I looked through his filter and he never talks to or about rayn as if he thinks he's mafia. Onegu never implies that he thinks rayn is scum until just now, and the only reasoning was because maybe scum rayn was trying to save scum hzflank? This is after Onegu start throwing out quotes to show that hzflank is scum... why wouldn't he just vote for hz? The answer... as much as you hate to admit it, imo is because rayn is town and onegu thinks that's an easier mislynch.

It's like Onegu just wants to be lynched.
Are there jesters in this game lol?

The issue becomes the 'too scummy to be scum' thing.
I can't honestly tell where to sit on this. My gut tells me a scum Onegu just wouldn't play this badly.


Do you remember that quote rayn provided?

Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is what Onegu did in Desert final day:
On September 12 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would you, as town, in MYLO, say "I think Sno is scum, i'm okay with no-lynch, i am voting for yamato"??
Why?

And we did not lynch him for it. :p

Anyways good night.




And like I said this quote is BS, I talked my way out of that and won the game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 04:45 GMT
#928
On November 04 2013 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Looking the playerlist you are the guy i can work with the best.
I can't read OO for shit.
I hope Cephiro does not do dumb stuff like he did in Hogwarts.
Lurk Sylencia = lynch, otherwise idk
Sn0dude played really well in Hogwarts, i except that from him here aswell.
gumshoe ....
thrawn i misread on Desert until he actually started making sense, hope he does that too here
Umasi was good in some game as town i think? Says nothing = lynch
Onegu is tricky, damn he was tricky in Hogwarts. A guy to read closely.
ET is town or scum at last N1, based purely on Hogwarts.
hzflank i can read.
Vanesco noob, no idea. contribute or die.

and yeah, that's it.



When he says this early in the game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 05:04 GMT
#933
On November 07 2013 13:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
Onegu.. why is rayn scum? Just give me one or two sentences explaining why and please don't go looking through his filter, or anyone's case against him because I want this to be off the top of your head mmk?



First he started the game not doing much of anything, when his scummate got a wagon on him he saved him. Second rayn says he is ok with my lynch but never really does anything about it other than say WoS is wrong for the unvote, then later he uses BS meta reasons for calling me scum.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 05:05 GMT
#935
On November 07 2013 14:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also sorry thrawn having severe idgaf issues right now.
I'll get to the stuff I promised eventually.


yeah I know. but forget about ET and rayn for now because this vote onegu just made is crazy. I looked through his filter and he never talks to or about rayn as if he thinks he's mafia. Onegu never implies that he thinks rayn is scum until just now, and the only reasoning was because maybe scum rayn was trying to save scum hzflank? This is after Onegu start throwing out quotes to show that hzflank is scum... why wouldn't he just vote for hz? The answer... as much as you hate to admit it, imo is because rayn is town and onegu thinks that's an easier mislynch.

It's like Onegu just wants to be lynched.
Are there jesters in this game lol?

The issue becomes the 'too scummy to be scum' thing.
I can't honestly tell where to sit on this. My gut tells me a scum Onegu just wouldn't play this badly.


Do you remember that quote rayn provided?

On November 07 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is what Onegu did in Desert final day:
On September 12 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would you, as town, in MYLO, say "I think Sno is scum, i'm okay with no-lynch, i am voting for yamato"??
Why?

And we did not lynch him for it. :p

Anyways good night.


Yup, and I was waiting for you to point that out because it doesn't mean shit here---Onegu didn't fuck up, backtrack, try to cover anything up. He's just playing balls-to-the-wall shit.
And Onegu himself brings up a good point. Rayn DOES call him tricky. This doesn't look tricky in the slightest.


yeah, I think what he's doing is backtracking, but if you believe him then he's not backtracking. he claimed to have been developing suspicions about rayn earlier, he just didn't point them out. we have to accept that on faith because there is nothing in his filter to prove to us on way or the other if he ever thought rayn was mafia

so the two choices are:

1) believe that he did think rayn was scum before now, except he didn't say anything about it and chose to talk about other stuff instead
2) he's scum and playing terribly




Wait where did I say I thought rayn was scum earlier? The first time was when I saw his BS reason for makeing me look bad, hell I voted dor him to be blue before this.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 06:38 GMT
#944
On November 07 2013 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Onegu martyred as scum in Hogwarts.



Show me... I said vote for me if you like, but I never selfvoted and I never followed up on it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 06:38 GMT
#946
And that was after I had a red check on me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 07 2013 08:08 GMT
#957
Your misrepresenting clever with stupid. Saying I PMd sylencia as scum was clever. Im not saying what I did this game is stupid perse but Im not trying to be clever. And if I think there person I voted for is scum I have no problem saying.
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