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On November 14 2013 22:41 Sylencia wrote: towards town Because you were one of the main people who consistently looked for suspicious posts, but then I guess I had doubts during a few filter dives and saw early d1 cases that made me think "What if we're all wrong" so I had that thought kinda just in the back of my mind the entire time =\ not good enough I think it's completely ridiculous for anyone to think I was mafia during D3, so you're gonna need to do a better job of explaining your "doubts" | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:37 Sylencia wrote: I'll look at him now, but your wording still makes me worried here. Shouldn't you be saying "you're going to have to convince us that sn0 is scum not you"? why thrawn why -_- No. There are 2 scum left. If you're town, say we lynch hopeless today like you suggest. There is going to be a day after that where you will have to show us why we should lynch sn0man instead of you. I'm only asking that you do it now so that we can try to read you. | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:55 Sylencia wrote: Seeing both hopeless and sn0 essentially say "Don't shoot me or we lose" is really sad btw lol it's more worrying that you aren't saying that o.0 | ||
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On November 14 2013 23:36 Sylencia wrote: I tried but honestly, I'm coming up blank. Only thing I can say is that at least half of the town has thought sn0 as being scum this entire game, and there is probably good reasoning behind it. I am just not seeing it. this is true. it is also true that sn0man has avoided every lynch despite everyone thinking he's mafia. if half the town has always thought that sn0 was scum then why has he not been "mislynched?" On November 14 2013 23:36 Sylencia wrote: I don't blame you guys if I get lynched, I'll take the blame but that can probably be delayed by 72 hours if Hopeless dies. If I wake up, it'll be ~15 minutes before deadline but no guarantees. Sorry I let the team down ;-; imo this is the least townie post out of all the "mislynch me means losing" posts that have been made today I'm not willing to give my opinion on hopeless vs sn0man yet, but for now ##vote: sylencia | ||
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If syl is town, that means he KNOWS who the scum are. It has to be hopeless and snoman from his POV. If you KNOW who scum are, when you read their filter you're going to have HUGE confirmation bias and every single post will look scummy as fuck. The fact that sylencia isn't able to come up with good reasons why sn0man is mafia (or even that I'm mafia if you think it's reasonable for him to suspect me) means that he is NOT experiencing confirmation bias, which means he is NOT a townie. sylencia doesn't want us to lynch sn0man today sn0man and hopeless both (at least initially) wanted to lynch the other THEREFORE SYLENCIA SCUM | ||
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On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something  this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates rayn's points against ET make sense. ok. so that implies you are at least moderately suspicious of ET... but you're going to dismiss this suspicion just because he would have had to change up his scum game within a week? wait nvm no you're not, because you give ET enough credit that you think he could do that? annnnnnnd no conclusion or any kind of actual read given at the end of all that. sounds like bs to me. OO is scum... up till this post you'd been pretty vocal about him being scum and acting like he'd be who you want to lynch... oh wait no you're going to completely trust thrawn and ignore your top scumread..... more bs there's no reason given for your desire to lynch onegu other than that he martyrs as scum all the time. lets see where line of reasoning goes (next series of quotes are all taken from sn0's very next post) On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Last game I gave him a townread for something and he said stuff like "don't give me a townread for that" and shit. Maybe not full martyr but the mindset is the same. Its "Would scum throw away "towncred" like this? Would scum call attention to themselves like this? Of course not". Its how Onegu plays. yea, more bs. scum onegu saying "don't give me a townread" in one game = scum onegu martrys all the time, therefore lets lynch him? hmm... yeah that's bs. lets see if you have more reasons to vote onegu because so far your onegu push ain't looking good. On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll admit that I often get the same vibes from his townplay and in general I have real difficulty reading Onegu, but I'd argue that that makes him a serious liability to have moving into the late game. And he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town. you have trouble reading him and he hasn;t done anything to make you think he's town. those sound like good reasons to lynch him oh wait no they don't. carrying on.... On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean, if he IS town, then he wants to die so we should oblige him and solve that questionmark. If he is scum, then we lynch scum. It feels like the right move right now. ಠ_ಠ | ||
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On November 15 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't really think Hopeless and Sno are scum together. If they are they've been doing some awesome jos in throwing shit at each other on this day phase. FINAL ANSWER! do you want to change the lynch? honestly i don't really care thaaat much, I'm just trying to think about happens during D5 when one (or maybe both who the fuck knows) of us isn't around. if sn0 and syl are mafia I think sn0 would be the best at being persuasive on D5 and yeah, sn0+sylencia final answer version 3.0 for me as well | ||
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THIS IS MY MESSAGE TO UMASI hi umasi. if future you is reading this, there is a good chance I'm dead If you are seeking guidance, go read the big post I made about sn0man above this one. he is scum, you should lynch him | ||
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"why did rayn vote sn0man while having a green check on umasi and saying that one of umasi and vanesco must be scum?" | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + whatever rayn. i've been burned by like 3 of your town fake claims in the past so idgaf. i'm gonna post that shit anyway On November 12 2013 15:45 Umasi wrote: I won witchcraft N2 Tracked Cephiro, he didn't visit anyone I have a pretty solid amount of work coming up in the next few days, will be largely participate, will try to get in when I can. I guess in revelation of cephiro being town, I'm less sold on Sylencia being town...Although I'm still loathe to go down that path and lynch Syl. That said, it basically leaves Sn0 and one of koshi/hopeless for me, although I'll bounce Syl/koshi/hopeless around. Kinda weird how Vanesco was 'suspicious' of Sn0, so...idk if that frees him from suspicion or not, but it's a mark in his favor imo. ('suspicious' isn't meant to implicate sn0, just how vanesco couldn't have been legitimately suspicious of anyone.) Ok here's why I didn't like this post. He doesn't give any solid scum reads. At this stage in the game, after 3 cycles, 80 pages, and only a few people left in the game, how can he not have a scumread? I think that all townies should have at least 1 person that they are extremely suspicious of so it's odd that Umasi doesn't. He talks about being "less sold on sylencia being town" and he bounces some other names around... but nowhere in that post does he really talk about anything regarding scumhunting or reasons why someone could be mafia. It's as if Vanesco has been the only read he really wanted to talk about all game, and now that Vanesco is gone he doesn't have anything to talk about. I finished reading his filter and my impression of his filter is the same as my impression of his last post. His only real contributions are talking about Vanesco... anytime he talks about anyone he is so so soooo wishy washy. His night actions don't look good either. His roleblock of rayn was terrible. He says he did it because... "I jailed rayn because he was pretty townie throughout day one in terms of activity/pressure/etc, but scummy for the gumshoe swap, and didn't feel quite right.. so if he was town I figured he'd be in danger, and if he was scum I might block an action, so win-win." His stated motives are way too ambiguous for that to have been his preferred action! I expect a witch's 1st choice to be extremely well thought out, does that look thought out at all? On November 10 2013 15:48 Umasi wrote: Cephiro has done nothing to make me more or less suspicious since the lynch occurred. More annoyed, since I was also looking forward to his claiming strat, but it can't be helped I suppose. Still prefer vanesco as a lynch ##vote: vanesco I stand by my earlier claim that this post suggests he doesn't care about the lynch at all. I think what I said was something along the lines of unemotional wishy washy uninterested scumminess? In summary, Umasi has been extremely wishy-washy all game about anyone that isn't Vanesco. His night actions are odd.... yeah this bro's scum, methinks. | ||
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On November 15 2013 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can't imagine how sad i was when i killed you. fuck you buddy! + Show Spoiler + gg | ||
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