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thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 12 2013 23:22 GMT

#1808

rayn did you lie about umasi

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 12 2013 23:34 GMT

#1810

are you mafia?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 00:05 GMT

#1812

I'm gonna retouch on something I posted a long time ago. I wrote this at a time when I thought hopeless/sylencia were scum. The context behind this post is that sylencia spent most of D1 talking about things that weren't ET, and he ends up voting for ET giving little reasoning compared to the walls of texts he wrote developing non committal reads on other players. D1 ends with syl being the only person voting for ET. To me that would suggest that he reaaaaaly was confident in his ET vote lol. Then after D1, people (like me) bring up ET as a lynch candidate. Now.... so far... Syl is confident enough about ET to be the only person who votes for him in D1... so once D2 rolls around, it makes sense that Syl would want to continue voting, or at the very least, talking about ET, right? Here is what he actually had to say...

On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.

Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.

In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.

My question to syl at the end of that was:

"sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless?"

his response:

On November 08 2013 10:37 Sylencia wrote:

Show nested quote +

There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.

He lost all desire to talk about or push the hopeless lynch after other people start doing it after D1. His defense was that hopeless isn't a probable D2 target despite a few people thinking he is, but sylencia didn't have any problem voting for ET during D1 when ET was even *less* of a probable target. syl + hope scumteam?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 02:51 GMT

#1813

I already miss koshi <3

anyone here? other than rayn or sn0man?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:08 GMT

#1816

when you get a chance you should explain those reads, especially the sylencia one

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:10 GMT

#1817

lol that was meant for umasi

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:26 GMT

#1818

hmm.

My first impression of h's recent bigass post is that everything in it reads like an advertisement, like he's trying to sell me something. I understand the need for persuasive writing but H lays it on a little to thick for my tastes. Secondly I really hate how many times hopeless has quoted me or name dropped me throughout this game to prove his points. When a townie buddies up to me I am usually very good about recognizing their townieness and it's a big part of how I play late game (my read on koshi for example) but when hopeless does it ..... eh. And finally, a lot of those points just aren't convincing! The stuff in the end feels like random jabs hopeless is throwing at Sn0 as part of his scummy marketing campaign.

summary: a very pretty post, but I don't like it. it feels very fake, like scum desperately trying to look good during mylo

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:39 GMT

#1820

On November 13 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:
Sylencias been a good feel read for me at most stages through the game. He was obviously wrong regarding Cephiro, but hell, I followed his reasoning there.
That said, he's been pretty ineffectual for a while, so I'm looking forward to

Show nested quote +

Just to see how he's approaching things.

why is hopeless your #1 read and who would you lynch out of sn0/sylencia?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:46 GMT

#1822

OK hopeless, lets play chicken

##unvote
##vote: sylencia

alright?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 03:48 GMT

#1823

I also want to hear your thoughts on a rayn/umasi scumteam.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 04:04 GMT

#1828

On November 13 2013 13:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Thrawn, compare the filter exercise I had in my case on Sn0 (vanesco vs syl) with your analysis of Sylencia re: EchelonTee and his unwillingness to pursue a supposed scumread from the previous. Do you draw any parallels?

I'm tired and I'm about 5 min from going to bed. You can do it and I'll read it later.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 04:11 GMT

#1830

On November 13 2013 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I don't see the need for rayn to have claimed anything. There are no more blues. If he's fakeclaiming, he risks having the "real" blue cc him tomorrow. At this point that'd have to be you since Koshi died. I say tomorrow because a silver bullet might lay in wait. This scenario is both unlikely and requires town to no-lynch for it to be relevant (Since a mislynch endgames the town today). As things stood at the start of the night phase, today was likely to end up exactly as it turned out anyways, except with Umasi firmly off the table.

The risk/reward is non-existent for Rayn in this situation in my opinion. Unless hes scum doing it for shits and giggles, they're both town imo.

consider the fact that both rayn and umasi were both elected D1 and D2. They wouldn't have needed to "fake claim" having powers since they won the election. There'd be no risk of anyone counterclaiming.

The reason I bring this up is because I don't like how you've been the only one not to doubt rayn's claim. What if they are both scum? What if only rayn is scum, and he's claiming something that's relatively safe to hide the fact that he's not a real blue? These points are things that were mentioned by koshi, sn0, and myself. During the time when rayn claimed everyone except you was at least a *little* suspicious of rayn or both rayn and umasi. Not being suspicious about every possibility during mylo does not make you look good. I'm leaving Umasi out of this discussion because he wasn't here for the discussion.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

November 13 2013 04:24 GMT

#1832

On November 13 2013 13:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm keeping a level head and maintaining my scumreads and you tell me I'm less town for doing so.

Yes. 100% correct. I couldn't have put it better myself. This is mylo baby, it's time for everyone to go bat shit crazy and examine all possibilities.