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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 18:55 GMT
#1215
WoS I get what you mean about Onegu having a transparent thought process. The problem is that his justifications are very weak and the thought process only goes surface deep. When Onegu tells me why he wants to lynch somebody it's either because of non-scumhunting reasons such as player skill, or reasons that I would never be comfortable in using to call somebody mafia. It's not hard to construct a superficial fiction. Onegu is very tricky like rayn said and will say anything. You can't point to something he says and go "scum would never do/say this" because scum onegu will.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 18:56 GMT
#1217
On November 09 2013 03:54 Onegu wrote:
Cephiro hasnt done much this game except tunnel WoS, but there was alot of effort. Also he was the hammer on gumshoe and I never really see scum wanting to be the hammer on day 1. Yes he contridicts himseld talking about how a no lynch is better, and then drives the nail in. I think scum would have been ok with a no lynch because it would have derived town of info, they get a free kill, and another wasted day while we lynch gumshoe day two because he was one vote short.


What does this mean? What is your conclusion? Most of that is a description of his filter.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#1218
On November 09 2013 03:56 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 03:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu, based on koshi's posts today do you really think he's mafia?



Yes everything koshi has written is alignment neutral. All of it is basicly stalling, and wifom. He tries to look town with his random questions a bit to hard imo.


at the start of D1 you said you were voting rayn over hzflank because scum rayn is a bigger threat than scum hzflank. Do you think that scum koshi is a bigger threat than scum rayn?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#1224
On November 09 2013 04:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 03:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
WoS I get what you mean about Onegu having a transparent thought process. The problem is that his justifications are very weak and the thought process only goes surface deep. When Onegu tells me why he wants to lynch somebody it's either because of non-scumhunting reasons such as player skill, or reasons that I would never be comfortable in using to call somebody mafia. It's not hard to construct a superficial fiction. Onegu is very tricky like rayn said and will say anything. You can't point to something he says and go "scum would never do/say this" because scum onegu will.

To this day I have never, let me repeat, NEVER seen a scummer who is about to be lynched provide a list of pre-death reads and actively attempt to provide town with everything asked of him.


i guess the part where we disagree is that you think his reads are reads and i don't? what are the lynches you could go for today? what about syl?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:05 GMT
#1225
in order of preference

ONEGUE

sylencia

ceph. more policy and a wildcard lynch than anything

that being said i'm still not ready to back down on onegu
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:12 GMT
#1228
On November 09 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sn0 and Umasi. Same as yesterday.
Rayn I'm flip-flopping on a lot. I really hate how quick he agreed to my 'deal' because I would expect a scumRayn to be very confident he could throw the rest of town (and me as well) off of his case in a full 72 hours, and less a show of how confident he is that Onegu is scum as town, but then his weird incredulity of me recently with regards to Onegu is very reminiscent of how he acts as town towards me.
As far as Syl---I dunno nothing he's done has bugged me a whole lot aside from what hzflank pointed out yesterday....what are the recent points for/against him? I don't think I;ve looked.


sylencia and sneaky contain 5 of the same letters

sneaky = mafia
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:15 GMT
#1230
On November 09 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
thrawn do you think there are scum on ceph or sn0 right now as the 'semi-competing' wagons?


i think there's a chance syl is bussing ceph because of how horribly the scum team had been playing in D2. of course this changes completely based on whatever onegu flips
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:17 GMT
#1231
syl votes for ET D1, then

On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.

Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.

In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.


"lets pay attention to hopeless"

On November 08 2013 10:37 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you have anything to say about Onegu?


look at syl's reply

On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.

Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.

In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.


-could lynch hopeless
-people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2

the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn?

sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless?


There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.


"nvm lets ignore hopeless"
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:23 GMT
#1237
On November 09 2013 04:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im going to sleep do you want to know my blue votes from day 1?


I guess so? Idk.

Before you go to sleep I'd like you to give your bestest best explanation behind your top scum read. Also I'd like for you to give town advice on what to do after your lynch.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:31 GMT
#1240
On November 09 2013 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
You guys are way too complacent in your scumreads, and are not helping me discuss shit.
Worst fucking town circle ever.


lol don't ask me to be your marv and then come into the thread not knowing what the points against sylencia are because I have written much and more about him
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:39 GMT
#1244
On November 09 2013 04:35 Onegu wrote:
Sylencia, umasi, ryan.

Day 1 blue votes. Lynch koshi, if he flips red lynch rayn.

Later GL town.


Why aren't you voting for sn0man? He is one of your top scum reads and he has two votes and many others want to lynch him compared to your lonely vote on koshi who nobody wants to lynch.

This is coming from the guy who self-voted to help consolidate the lynch on D1... why is he not trying to consolidate? Why is voting for a person nobody wants to lynch (koshi) instead of voting for his other scumread (sno) who other people want to lynch? It's because he does not care about the lynch because he is mafia. Does anyone think that a town onegu would really think that his vote on koshi is in town's best interests?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:43 GMT
#1247
On November 09 2013 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
Umasi doesn't even sound stressed or mad that he's getting lynched...

That's because he's not....?



WoS please don't play dumb lol... u kno wat he meant

if onegu flips scum can you stop acting so indignant and whiny? if onegu is green then i will stfu and let you or rayn take lead in D3
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:44 GMT
#1250
LOL
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#1255
ooneeeguuuuu you should go back to D1 plan of self voting to help town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:50 GMT
#1258
On November 09 2013 04:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 09 2013 04:45 Koshi wrote:
If Onegu is scum I will be amused.

What exactly does this mean?
Do you have a townread on him?
Are you scum?
WTF is this?!

If he flips scum I will be relieved as all fuck; 'amused' isn't a word I would THINK of using.

I am voting for him because he thinks all the town reads from hzflank are scum and thinking I am scum.
Also for the self vote.
Also somewhat bad play but not really that.

But I will be amused because he had to say I am scum while being scum 2 times in a row while he calls himself a Koshi hunter :D.


koshi do you know that this is majority lynch?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#1261
oh nvm my bad, disregard that koshi
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#1264
lol dammit

i wanted to see how ceph was going to approach having to potentially be the hammer again
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:55 GMT
#1267
people still need to vote onegu in case he unvotes last second
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 19:58 GMT
#1271
On November 09 2013 04:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol dammit

i wanted to see how ceph was going to approach having to potentially be the hammer again

I was thinking that too.
Well this is interesting. we can start analyzing for next day's lynch now, no?
I also massively have to rethink some of the ways in which I do analysis. It sucks because it's going to make me even more paranoid than normal for a while.

Onegu next you roll scum (cause you get it all the fucking time somehow) can we trade?


well obviously not much will change for me if onegu flips red. i kinda liked the way hopeless was posting so I think I might like Ceph for scum instead of ET/Hopeless. sylencia is mafia, lol. i think we should lynch sylencia next
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#1276
sn0 that's silly... it happens a lot. there are strategic reasons for scum to self hammer
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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