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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#661
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#662
I just hate this scenario because it's going to play out the same way regardless if I get shot or not, if scum decide to bus/not bus Asinine, if asinine is town or mafia.

He'll be lynched.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#663
It'll lead to no new information
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
November 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#664
Persons of Interest:
Tehpoofter
Laughing Jack
Bereft
Oatsmaster
OdinOfPergo
Stutters695

Yes, I know this is basically a list of lurkers. However, I believe that the majority of scum does lie in this group(outside of hzflank).
Addressing hzflank:
Let's be real. The lynch of mkfuba kinda/sorta clears hzflank a little bit. I don't think it would be wise for us to pursue a lynch of him at this juncture. I know I pushed him throughout Day 1. I've changed my mind. I'm not putting throwing out the possibility of him being scum. It's just probably less likely because of how the flip turned out.

Tehpoofter:
Very short filter. Votes fuba after Stutters, making his vote unnecessary. May have been an attempt to gain towncred after the flip if he is scum.

Most of his posting seems to be fairly unreadable/non-alignment indicative. I would like to go into depth about justifications for the vote on fuba.
On November 02 2013 08:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote mkfuba07

I don't like his accusations on hzfanks I think between the two he looks the most scummy in his filter.

1) I honestly don't like either of the two main lynches but its too close to deadline now. 2)I realize my activity has been shit but as for now I think that Grack is most town to me his aggressive style with his constant pings make me think he is the most town by far and I think on the early grack/oats fight both are just town argueing with town.

As of now town is grack/oats more to come during the night.

I want to point out a few things. See bold.
1) Here we can see a type of apathy that is reminiscent of scum play. He is saying that he doesn't care who is lynched.
2) The rest of the post is completely irrelevant to the most pressing matters at hand. First, he apologizes for his poor activity. Then, he starts talking about Grack/Oats who he believes are both town.

Consider the circumstances. Many town members were engaging in a heated debate about whether fuba or hzflank would be the best lynch. Tehpoofter waltzes in, places a vote that amounts to nothing, and talks about unrelated shit.
Advice: Consider lynching tomorrow.

I'll post my other reads soon.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 02 2013 21:37 GMT
#665
I would be surprised if there is a vig shot. Not only is it unlikely that there is a vig, but even if there is they may not of been active enough to decide on their target.

Best to play as if there are no power roles, for the moment.
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
November 02 2013 21:39 GMT
#666
On November 03 2013 06:37 hzflank wrote:
I would be surprised if there is a vig shot. Not only is it unlikely that there is a vig, but even if there is they may not of been active enough to decide on their target.

Best to play as if there are no power roles, for the moment.

With 4 mafia, I think both a vig and a doctor are fair game. Especially if mafia have some power roles at their disposal. I wouldn't spend too much time speculating, though. Whatever it may be, good ol' scumhunting always works better than role speculation.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 02 2013 21:40 GMT
#667
On November 03 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.

Good because I vigged Oats
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#668
On November 03 2013 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.

Good because I vigged Oats


Good because I vigged Asinine and was joking about my joking
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#669
Tehpoofter has done nothing this game. IIRC he has not even posted since the flip. His only saving grace is that he voted at the same time as Stutters, so he would not of know that Stutters was about to switch and Tehpoofters vote would then of been the hammer.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#670
On November 03 2013 06:41 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.

Good because I vigged Oats


Good because I vigged Asinine and was joking about my joking

Damn these meta plays!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 02 2013 21:42 GMT
#671
On November 03 2013 06:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:41 Pandain wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.

Good because I vigged Oats


Good because I vigged Asinine and was joking about my joking

Damn these meta plays!


So I should not of doctored Asinine?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 02 2013 21:44 GMT
#672
If the vig was smart they would probably just listen to Pandain. Or me if he's a real sucker.
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
November 02 2013 21:44 GMT
#673
On November 03 2013 06:42 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:41 Pandain wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
I wouldn't mind him to be vigged. As I said I can't read him and him being absent doesn't help his cause.

Good because I vigged Oats


Good because I vigged Asinine and was joking about my joking

Damn these meta plays!


So I should not of doctored Asinine?

Don't worry, I'm a vig too and I shot myself.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#674
Asinine are you thinking about claiming your real ID since it will help town decide whether or not to lynch you, since you will likely be lynched.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#675
On November 03 2013 06:45 Pandain wrote:
Asinine are you thinking about claiming your real ID since it will help town decide whether or not to lynch you, since you will likely be lynched.


I will take a stab at Aquanim. Although I am even worse at finding smurfs than I am at finding scum, and I only actually know a dozen or so players anyway.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 02 2013 21:51 GMT
#676
pandain, there was no intention behind that post of playing the newbie card. it was just an off the cuff comment considering i was genuinely apprehensive about pace of the game. i think i even mentioned it while signing up...

On October 24 2013 11:04 Bereft wrote:
omg a normal mini?! but this is exactly what i wanted!

i'm being kicked out of newbies, time to play with the big boys.

/in

post in moderation ok guys

thx


i didn't plan on leaving my vote on you but that's spilt milk at this point.

that being said i'm not sure if i agree with some of your town reads on the basis that they voted fuba. in particular the stutters vote stands out. he FOS'ed both fuba and hz initially, but gave himself an out with the fuba read, saying that he could more obviously read fuba in the future. but then right before the deadline he changes his vote back to fuba. what's the incentive of doing that as town if hz has been your preferred candidate this entire time? hz right now is reading town to me, so assuming he is, i'd think as scum there's far more upside in bussing an afk team mate (who didn't even come back to defend himself) than to be the final vote on a town flip.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:54 GMT
#677
Stutters voting FUBA is only a slight town tell, as of course it should be when you push the lynch over in favor of scum. It's not definitive. My reasons for him being town is his meta is totally changed from at least when I've played with him as scum. He seems genuinely interested in this game and is posting when he doesn't have to, not lurking.

He did give himself an out, but that makes the assumption he's mafia which you can't go straight to B without proving A, at least somewhat.

I don't think he can't be scum, but it would be very poor play to lynch him tomorrow.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#678
Asinine are you mocsta.

Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 02 2013 22:01 GMT
#679
i'm not advocating him as a day 2 lynch. i think there are better candidates around. i'm just skeptical that it'd be so clear cut that the mafia team falls entirely into the afkers + hz voters.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2013 22:02 GMT
#680
Don't you think mafia would, as a whole, take a backwards stance to this. Ideally just step back from the conflict? After all, I was the one who had to lead a counter lynch to lynch fuba. Scum don't want to be defending him, nor do they want to be prosecuting him. It would all be indirect. Biggest reasoning as to why me and Grack are town.
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