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OdinOfPergo
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Asinine
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I'll filter a few other players. Be back soon. | ||
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Grackaroni
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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hzflank
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OdinOfPergo
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Stutters695
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
What is your current opinion on Pandain? | ||
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Asinine
Qatar66 Posts
Reason #1 This is the first post that brings up fuba in any regard: On November 01 2013 09:51 hzflank wrote: This seems to have flown under the radar: You say that you are not sure whether the most concerning thing actually exists. You feel pretty confident with a vote on someone that you only lean slightly scum on. I would say that you decided on where to park your vote before you decided on the reasons for it. ##vote: mkfuba07 In sum, hzflank is saying 1) Fuba has a slight scum read on hzflank but... 2) is very confident in voting him Therefore, this disconnect makes fuba scum. However, this accusation is cherry-picking information from fuba's post! Fuba's post: On November 01 2013 03:09 mkfuba07 wrote: Actually, I think I'm going to vote for him. He's talked quite a bit, but always ends with a noncommittal statement. He kind of narrates the thread, but doesn't give a conclusion. As far as his involvement in the rng debate, the apparent inconsistency in his position is the most concerning thing to me, though I'm not even sure there is one. I think rng-ing would be bad play, so advocating for it or opposing it are pretty null. I agree with jjd that he appears to be supporting it in one post, then the next one appears to be agreeing with the first. However, I guess it could be interpreted the way hzflank says he meant it, so overall that just makes me lean slight scum on him. Altogether, I feel pretty confident with a vote on hzflank. ##Vote: hzflank See: bold hzflank conveniently left out the part where fuba substantiates his read on hzflank. The bolded quote should be reason enough for a townie to vote a scum read. Ultimately, the vote is justified by that bolded statement. When you see the quote in its full context, the part about RNG is clearly mentioned as an aside, not as a primary argument. Reason #2: The other people voting for fuba do not make any compelling arguments. Pandain is the only one who brought up actual evidence, but only did so after he had voted for fuba. In essence, Pandain did exactly what hzflank is accusing fuba of doing. He voted a slight scum read and then expressed his overt confidence in that read later on. If hzflank was consistent in his reasoning, he would be voting Pandain right now(or at the very least pressuring him). Grack seems to be buddying Pandain and vice-versa. So far, I have not seen a single useful post out of him. Odin sounds like he hasn't completely caught up to the thread. Again, a vote with no real reasoning. Reason #3: The votes have piled up far too quickly for my liking. Not much to go into here. I don't like any of the people voting fuba and I don't like the reasons they gave for voting fuba. | ||
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Asinine
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I voted for Fuba in the same post I analyzed him in. Grack and I are team-mates in this. We might as well be a fourth party. It's dangerous because one of us might be scum, but that's why the power of love must guide us in discerning each other's true intentions. Hz voted him, and then I convinced Grack to vote him. Not weird at all considering it's obvious me and Grack are going to be buddies in this game. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Laughing Jack
Finland50 Posts
##Vote: hzflank | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 02 2013 07:56 Pandain wrote: Okay, then do you think the votes are still piling up too quickly? I mean to be frank there are only three votes on him. Four votes* | ||
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Asinine
Qatar66 Posts
On November 02 2013 07:56 Pandain wrote: Okay, then do you think the votes are still piling up too quickly? I mean to be frank there are only three votes on him. I count four. Honestly, votes pile up too quickly more often because town begins to play impulsively than because scum is piling on the target. I think we have a classic case of misguided town being led astray by scum (hzflank) here. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Oatsmaster (0): Pandain (3): hzflank (4): JarJarDrinks (0): mkfuba07 (4): hzflank, Pandain, Grackaroni, OdinofPergo mkfuba07 is currently set to be lynched. The deadline is at 00:00 GMT (+00:00) in . | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 02 2013 08:01 Asinine wrote: I count four. Honestly, votes pile up too quickly more often because town begins to play impulsively than because scum is piling on the target. I think we have a classic case of misguided town being led astray by scum (hzflank) here. The problem is I ignored his posts and am the person who led Grack to vote him. You are also relying on several assumptions to fit a theory which is horrible reasoning. Mainly that hzflank is scum which I'm not getting from him right now. I fail to see how you think mftuba is town. You still haven't adressed my points | ||
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Asinine
Qatar66 Posts
On November 02 2013 07:57 Pandain wrote: I agree Hz's reasonings are poor, but it seems to be more of a result of mis-understanding then pure malice. Even ignoring him, what do you think of my points? All I saw was "mkfuba is apathetic" and a few quotes of his posts. First of all, apathy isn't a sure-fire scumtell. Apathy is usually an indication of disinterest. While scum are more likely to appear disinterested than town are, you'll need a broader set of evidence to convince me that mkfuba is scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Just imagine that I am Town for a moment, though. Pandain suddenly comes back to the game when he is leading the vote, and then there are three votes in quick succession that make Fuba the vote leader. There was initially only one vote on Fuba and at least two on me, with Mig signalling that he would also vote for me. Now, if Pandain were scum in panic mode then he could have just voted for me. Instead, he voted for Fuba and then Grack and Odin also voted for Fuba. It makes no sense for Scum Pandain to do that if I am town. Therefore, I personally cannot vote for Pandain at this time. Since the other two people with votes on them are Fuba and myself, my vote obviously has to stay on Fuba. | ||
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