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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#421
On November 02 2013 05:14 hzflank wrote:
If your vote is just for lurking then Tehpoofter is probably the one to go for. While mkfuba might be legitimately busy, Tehpoofter was posting in the newbie game more than 24 hours after he stopped posting in this one.
Aren't you currently voting for mkfuba ?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#422
Sure, but not just because he is lurking. He never responded to my points against him so I left my vote there. I am happy to lynch mkfuba, it's just that if I were to lynch solely for lurking I would lynch tehpoofter.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:33 GMT
#423
Anyone have an idea on Pandain's vote on JJD?

I do not quite see the reason from going from wanting to lynch LJ to wanting to lynch JJD.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 01 2013 20:38 GMT
#424
On November 02 2013 05:32 hzflank wrote:
Sure, but not just because he is lurking. He never responded to my points against him so I left my vote there. I am happy to lynch mkfuba, it's just that if I were to lynch solely for lurking I would lynch tehpoofter.
Lol, he never responded to you because he has literally 2 posts in the game so far. Pretty sure that means you're lynching him because he's a lurker.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#425
##Vote Pandain

I'm not really convinced by Gracks analasis (nor do I really trust him). I'll check back thoughout the rest of the phase to see if there's any reason to move my vote elsewhere.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#426
That said, I think I'd still prefer lynching between Fuba and Hz.

Fuba for what I said earlier and Hz because although he found a reason for pushing Fuba in that one post, it was a fairly weak analysis and since then hasn't tried to sway people to him and is really passive about it and more concerned with his own image.

Hz I'm phone posting, do you happen to remember any games we've played together in? I know we have but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#427
Actually tehpoofter has not voted yet so there is no point in lynching him in case he gets modkilled.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
November 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#428
On November 01 2013 09:51 hzflank wrote:
This seems to have flown under the radar:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 03:09 mkfuba07 wrote:
the apparent inconsistency in his position is the most concerning thing to me, though I'm not even sure there is one.


You say that you are not sure whether the most concerning thing actually exists.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 03:09 mkfuba07 wrote:
I agree with jjd that he appears to be supporting it in one post, then the next one appears to be agreeing with the first. However, I guess it could be interpreted the way hzflank says he meant it, so overall that just makes me lean slight scum on him.

Altogether, I feel pretty confident with a vote on hzflank.


You feel pretty confident with a vote on someone that you only lean slightly scum on.

I would say that you decided on where to park your vote before you decided on the reasons for it.

##vote: mkfuba07

dat omgus

On November 01 2013 03:09 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:
What do you think of hzflank Fuba?

Actually, I think I'm going to vote for him. He's talked quite a bit, but always ends with a noncommittal statement. He kind of narrates the thread, but doesn't give a conclusion.

As far as his involvement in the rng debate, the apparent inconsistency in his position is the most concerning thing to me, though I'm not even sure there is one. I think rng-ing would be bad play, so advocating for it or opposing it are pretty null. I agree with jjd that he appears to be supporting it in one post, then the next one appears to be agreeing with the first. However, I guess it could be interpreted the way hzflank says he meant it, so overall that just makes me lean slight scum on him.

Altogether, I feel pretty confident with a vote on hzflank.

##Vote: hzflank


My main issue with hzflank has always been that while he was posting a lot, he wasn't coming to conclusions. He was throwing accusatory statements around, then ending with the equivalent of "... but I don't know if he's scum or not." It gets suspicions out there but insulates him from the consequences of a mislynch.

My entire second paragraph was there because I'd spent a bit of time thinking about the rng discussion, and came to the conclusion that it made me only lean slightly scum on him. I often get bitched out for my first posts not being related to the ongoing discussion, and didn't want to sidetrack the thread by not commenting on the silly rng discussion that took over up to that point.

So long-story-short, my main reason for finding him scummy was that he was posting in a scummy manner, and my thoughts on him haven't changed a lot since then.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#429
On November 02 2013 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:
Hz I'm phone posting, do you happen to remember any games we've played together in? I know we have but I can't think of any off the top of my head.


Titanic.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 01 2013 20:58 GMT
#430
Fuba who else do you find suspicious? What do you think of oats/grack?
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 20:59 GMT
#431
In addition to what Mig asked, you said you're Hz read hasn't changed much. What part of it has changed?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#432
If the Pandas flips town can I kill the oatsmaster tomorrow? I'm good with that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#433
Imma kill the oatsmasters
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:05 GMT
#434
Omgus? There were a bunch of other people calling me scum and I did not vote for any of them.

Anyway, your point on the second paragraph makes sense when you put it like that. You are saying that part is not really relevant to why you think that I am scum.

As for me being non-committal, I am not sure that I want to answer that...

I am not surprised that you fin that scummy because that seems to be a bit of a trend around here. I personally think quite the opposite, it's harder for town to commit on day 1 because they have none of the information and scum have it all. It's easy for scum to push hard until it gets close to vote time, and then slowly let up. But whatever, I am not going to change your mind on that.

So, apart from myself, what are your other reads?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 21:07 GMT
#435
On November 02 2013 05:46 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:
Hz I'm phone posting, do you happen to remember any games we've played together in? I know we have but I can't think of any off the top of my head.


Titanic.

Thanks. I haven't read a scum game of yours so this might be off so please feel free to explain, but in Titanic you were very active and pushing people you thought were scum d1. The only similar thing I see about your play here is that you were defensivein Titanic as well.

Why haven't you been pushing and asking questions this game?

Also, what is your most recent scum game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 01 2013 21:13 GMT
#436
On November 02 2013 05:58 Mig wrote:
Fuba who else do you find suspicious? What do you think of oats/grack?

What do you think of Oats/Grack?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:15 GMT
#437
Stutters, you might have a bit of a hard time with meta on me. This is my fourth game. I have one newbie game as town where I understood nothing about the game, one newbie game as scum which I will link for you, and Titanic which was a complete shipwreck. I am the kind of person who is interested in learning the game, so my play will be changing every game.

On November 02 2013 06:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Why haven't you been pushing and asking questions this game?


I struggled to start caring about it, and then when I got into it the only active posters were people whom I did not want to push. Hopefully I will get a bit more involved soon, but don't expect Titanic levels of posting from me, as I went over the top on that one.

On November 02 2013 06:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Also, what is your most recent scum game?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:19 GMT
#438
Hah, you were actually a town coach in that game, Stutters. Oats was, also.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#439
I don't really like that whole argument that took place between Grack and Oats.
Of the two I'm more inclined to side with Oats.
The only reason I don't like Oats in this is for the bad card. You have a bunch of games. But I do think going after Laughfing Jack right after he broke up said argument doesn't sit right with me. This doesn't make my think either of you that scummy though. It did the thread a chance to continue to move.

@Jar-jar; why do you think that? I think he's been pretty alright for most the part.
Pandain is not actively hurting the town yet (besides being un-useful, but considering we have a few lurkers, myself included, I'm less than sold.

I want to hear more into this hz/fluba argument.

I am going to pass people that are trying to push me into the thread yet. I haven't been around, this is normally normal play. Get people active, get the town moving etc.
But you calling out me for being in another game doesn't make me feel better about you. Here we go having everyone reading up on games.. So why don't you poke your head into my other game? I explain in it several times I've been short on time.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 21:36 GMT
#440
Oh shit lynch is in two hours.

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