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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
If someone would quote a case I would appreciate it | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh really marv? A TL policy lynch? Can the dream really come true? I'm almost tempted to fucking call your bluff. Tell me where to put my vote. I obviously think you're town since i boosted your fucking vote, so consider it a double boost, 2 for the price of one. Who is scum besides me, Marv? I don't give a fuck for your god-damn irl excuses. There is no excuse for a townie to self-vote, they should always vote for whoever they think is mafia, because voting for yourself cannot possibly help the town if you are town. Stop it. Btw, it's not a policy lynch. The only reason for anyone ever to vote for themselves is as a play to not get themselves lynched. You work out the rest. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:23 Pandain wrote: I would like if someone brought me at least somewhat up to speed, I understand the role argument. If someone would quote a case I would appreciate it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504¤tpage=59#1168 and http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504¤tpage=60#1196 there you go. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:24 marvellosity wrote: Why are so many players playing absolutely disgracefully this game? To welcome me home and remind me that I should have stayed away. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:23 marvellosity wrote: I don't give a fuck for your god-damn irl excuses. There is no excuse for a townie to self-vote, they should always vote for whoever they think is mafia, because voting for yourself cannot possibly help the town if you are town. Stop it. Btw, it's not a policy lynch. The only reason for anyone ever to vote for themselves is as a play to not get themselves lynched. You work out the rest. You know what? The bolded convinced me and you are absolutely right. The last sentence is not true at all and you know plenty of people have martyred like assholes. I suppose you could consider my self-vote as a play to not get myself lynched but it's more an "I don't know who to vote for atm and don't want to get modkilled' play. I can't count on being able to phonepost a vote in later. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:26 WaveofShadow wrote: You know what? The bolded convinced me and you are absolutely right. The last sentence is not true at all and you know plenty of people have martyred like assholes. I suppose you could consider my self-vote as a play to not get myself lynched but it's more an "I don't know who to vote for atm and don't want to get modkilled' play. I can't count on being able to phonepost a vote in later. Yes, and you specifically said you're not martyring. You're making a rational decision to self-vote which is in fact considerably worse than martrying. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Still him voting for himself is way too scummy, no reason to do it as town especially when you're up for the lynch what . | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:24 marvellosity wrote: Why are so many players playing absolutely disgracefully this game? This is a HUGE fuckign cop-out. I don't care how many people have said I haven't played well, I know it's not true. You guys all happen to be piling on while I'm gone and that can't be helped, I get it, but don't you dare for a fucking second call the entire rest of my game bad because of it. Fuck that. I would rather die and have town lose one townie than get modkilled and lose a potential two. I can RNG a vote if people are happier with that, though I can't imagine whybthey would be | ||
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HotCottonCandy
Canada188 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum. It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him! There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk. This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in. even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:28 HotCottonCandy wrote: It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him! There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk. This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in. even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell. This is awful assumption-based reasoning. Perhaps it's that I'm town? You think I'm scum based on how others are reacting to me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: This is a HUGE fuckign cop-out. I don't care how many people have said I haven't played well, I know it's not true. You guys all happen to be piling on while I'm gone and that can't be helped, I get it, but don't you dare for a fucking second call the entire rest of my game bad because of it. Fuck that. I would rather die and have town lose one townie than get modkilled and lose a potential two. I can RNG a vote if people are happier with that, though I can't imagine whybthey would be I'm sorry, walk me through this. You left your vote on OOHCHILD as a "placeholder" yesterday and you have no time to play the game today to find a lynch? Tell me how this is in any way an acceptable Day 1 from you? | ||
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HotCottonCandy
Canada188 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:29 Pandain wrote: This is awful assumption-based reasoning. Perhaps it's that I'm town? You think I'm scum based on how others are reacting to me. yes is that a problem 0o? I can't make a good case on you but I still feel good about it. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: strongandbig RNG says SnB. Now I won't get modkilled and everyone will be happy 'cause I'm not voting for myself. If you guys still want me dead, so be it, but know once again this is on YOUR heads for not giving me the amount of time required. Peace. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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OOHCHILD
United States570 Posts
All else being equal, you lynch the weaker player so that you can benefit from the insight of the better player. In this case Seuss is the weaker player. I read Seuss' analysis he posted in some quick chat about some random game. He is not thinking nearly as deep in this game as he was thinking in that analysis. WoS voting for himself. You may not like it but it's honest. He is honest about not knowing who to lynch and that leans town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:28 HotCottonCandy wrote: It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him! There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk. This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in. even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell. I do not think this is a good reasoning for thinking someone is scum. It just means people are unsure of his alignment, including townies for sure. There is evidence that says - even if scum are casting light suspicion on him without pushing - that townies are doing that aswell. Therefore that cannot possibly tell anything about Pandain's alignment. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 30 2013 02:30 WaveofShadow wrote: Fine, apparently this is supposed to be much better. ##Unvote ##Vote: strongandbig RNG says SnB. Now I won't get modkilled and everyone will be happy 'cause I'm not voting for myself. If you guys still want me dead, so be it, but know once again this is on YOUR heads for not giving me the amount of time required. Peace. Are you blaming us players for the fact that day phases last 48 hours and you havn't proven your towniness or find scum in that time frame? That's really weak WoS. | ||
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