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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 13 2013 23:06 GMT
#154
/in
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 11:42 GMT
#271
ya i probably know.
its not BH btw...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 15:12 GMT
#283
On October 16 2013 23:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
It's toad

You can tell by how important he thinks he is.


hahahaha
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 20:46 GMT
#315
On October 17 2013 05:32 I-be-Pro wrote:
finished watching kyoukainokanate 03. Got some time while cooking.

I am town.


youre not in my house which is sad.

can we all agree to reveal our houses and the members?
6 mafiamembers and 4 houses... its highly likely that they know the houses and their members... right?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 20:51 GMT
#317
what? female german host? ;-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#330
On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:31 GMT
#333
obviously i'll test my line in RL first... I know my priorities. :-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:40 GMT
#335
On October 17 2013 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.

You must not be from Gryffindor! A very cowardly act to accuse a loyal hufflepuff of being afraid to place his vote in the voting thread.


what holds you back then?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:47 GMT
#339
On October 17 2013 06:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
^ what was your pickup line?


you realize that i was asking you a question... do you?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:52 GMT
#344
On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.


can you give me the exact quote of his question? I tend to trust these noob-"slips"... ^_^

I'll tell you about my houseQT later, i wanna give my proposal from above (houseclaims etc.) some time.
Maybe someone points out a flaw in my idea. There is no need to rush things...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:54 GMT
#346
OKAY WAIT

I want you guys to post all the posts from your house QTs regarding this 1mafia per house theory.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 21:56 GMT
#350
On October 17 2013 06:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:52 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.


can you give me the exact quote of his question? I tend to trust these noob-"slips"... ^_^

I'll tell you about my houseQT later, i wanna give my proposal from above (houseclaims etc.) some time.
Maybe someone points out a flaw in my idea. There is no need to rush things...


I'm not a noob either.


yes you are? you didnt read the rules before you started this game? how newbie is that? Very newbie!
How do you even plan on playing this game? are you just here to chat with us a little bit?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:00 GMT
#356
On October 17 2013 06:58 I-be-Pro wrote:
Supersoft can you not try to get people modkilled please?


cant find the rule you're talking about :-/
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:05 GMT
#361
On October 17 2013 07:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
No more posting from QTs! Last warning.

Ange


what where it that rule? you only said that posting PMs is forbidden... :-o
It's okay though...

I guess everyone should now talk in this thread. Use your QTs only for the absolute necessary things please.
I need to see everything you're talking to be able to get a proper image of you.
It's in towns best interest to share as many information as possible.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:10 GMT
#367
On October 17 2013 07:09 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:04 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Skanjab1s

On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall.


"guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House'

You know the compositions of each house, huh?

1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House?
2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum?


1) Duh
2) You are trying to make it seem as if I'm asking these questions to pretend that I don't know the answers. Calling me scum for asking what house someone is in is retarded.


can you please answer question 1 properly?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:14 GMT
#370
On October 17 2013 07:10 I-be-Pro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:05 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
No more posting from QTs! Last warning.

Ange


what where it that rule? you only said that posting PMs is forbidden... :-o
It's okay though...

I guess everyone should now talk in this thread. Use your QTs only for the absolute necessary things please.
I need to see everything you're talking to be able to get a proper image of you.
It's in towns best interest to share as many information as possible.

I'm going to keep spamming in my QT. I treat my house QT as a nice chat with people to get a better read on them in person through casual chit chat. I can't just spam that much in here...

I'm keeping it that way and I don't think you need to know when we're joking about the host being a german female and all that. Rather be happy that some people have additional info they'd otherwise not have if they're willing to put in some time that way.


No, I am not happy about that. I feel like things are going on behind my back and i don't like it. If youre scum and there is one or are two more scummers with you in that QT, you can hide there too easily and manipulate the other townies in there very easy.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:20 GMT
#377
On October 17 2013 07:16 I-be-Pro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:05 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
No more posting from QTs! Last warning.

Ange


what where it that rule? you only said that posting PMs is forbidden... :-o
It's okay though...

I guess everyone should now talk in this thread. Use your QTs only for the absolute necessary things please.
I need to see everything you're talking to be able to get a proper image of you.
It's in towns best interest to share as many information as possible.


I always get the feeling that people who are using phrases like this aren't actually part of town themselves.
I'm pretty sure I would have said something along the lines of:
Show nested quote +
It's in our best interest to share as much information as possible



I don't slip like that toad. I chose my words knowing their meaning.
I wrote TOWNs best interest to emphasize town.
It's not that strong when i say our interest.

I don't need to act like a good townie when i am townie by talking about my townmembership all the time by talking in first person plural.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:23 GMT
#378
how do you know it's forbidden to directly quote from QTs, toad?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:24 GMT
#379
On October 17 2013 07:23 supersoft wrote:
how do you know it's forbidden to directly quote from QTs, toad?


*did
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:25 GMT
#382
On October 17 2013 07:24 I-be-Pro wrote:
I asked the question pre-game


oh yes you did, just now i found it :-]
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:27 GMT
#384
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 16 2013 22:41 GMT
#391
On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment?

I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here.

Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise.


lol why didn't they put you in my QT :-(

Assuming syllo and I are town and we're both in one houstQT. As scum, would you post much in there?
I am just wonderin why it's so quiet in my QT. :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#472
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.



Meh yes. That only sounds like a good point. I admit, I didn't look at it that way. I only thought about what would be best for me to hunt scum. And I thouhgt that would be best for every other individual townmember, too.

I didn't thought about it from the angle "what would be worst for scum". I agree that there is the possibilitie, that the scumteam has only members in 3 houses, and one of our QTs is a clear towncircle. I agree, that it's somehow not cool for the scumteam, when they have no information what's going on in there.

But thats only one possibilitie and even if it's like that, what would 6 townies talk about in their group, when 1. they can't be sure, that no scum is around and 2. the thread is empty because most conversations take place in the QTs.

+ Show Spoiler +
I only wanted to go to the toilet. I was already sleeping. Now I am awake again ._.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 08:08 GMT
#531
On October 17 2013 15:32 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.

Did you find this suspicious?


no, i just did it, to direct the game in a more serious direction.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 08:18 GMT
#540
On October 17 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Super, care to comment on any reads?

What do you make of Toad's play thus far, given that you interacted with him more than anyone else?


toad has obviously fun playing this game. But I don't know. He's really good at playing scum. Right now he is rather protown and today we shouldn't even consider lynching him.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 08:24 GMT
#544
On October 17 2013 17:19 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 17:18 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Super, care to comment on any reads?

What do you make of Toad's play thus far, given that you interacted with him more than anyone else?


toad has obviously fun playing this game. But I don't know. He's really good at playing scum. Right now he is rather protown and today we shouldn't even consider lynching him.

Does it seem to you like he's earnestly concerned with finding mafia, given how he's gone about his suspicions thus far?


No not yet. But I am also not yet earnestly concerned with finding scum. My first goal in a game is always to direct the conversations to get some kind of pressure on anyone and I think toad did the same. How am I supposed to find scum, if there is no content in the thread :-/
I am not sure about toad though. His play fits both his scum and townplay right now.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 09:14 GMT
#554
On October 17 2013 17:55 yamato77 wrote:
Syllo is a slow starter.


I confirm that.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 11:09 GMT
#583
raynpelikonoshi accueses regarding skanjab are cheap and artificial.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 11:17 GMT
#587
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 11:20 GMT
#590
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


you didn't think about my vote at all or did you?
The issue i have with you is, that I think you don't care that much about the things going on in here.
You care about participating at the discussion. Not so much about the outcome.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 12:45 GMT
#601
hehe yes you fooled me in that game where we talked about burgers and you surrendered day2 :D
and lol. i just thought about a massclaim in my QT :D
seriously :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 13:46 GMT
#605
ii believe it was the game where we talked about mcnürnberger, no?
ill look it up when i get home
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 14:50 GMT
#647
On October 17 2013 23:41 Pandain wrote:
If a pm circle rises, it must be used with utmost caution.

People need to contribute to the thread.


???
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 18:00 GMT
#738
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.


Secondly,

Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far?


Thirdly,

I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion.


Lastly,
I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this.

I am a self-aware miller.

After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this.
So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it.


one question are you a squib?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#749
LastArgument get in our QT :-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#754
On October 18 2013 03:35 I-be-Pro wrote:
Supersoft, quick question for you, sry too lazy to search for it: Who's in your QT again?


Ravenclaw: Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#794
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#805
On October 18 2013 05:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar?

I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though
The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2.

We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later.


who are the vets in my QT?

Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77 ?
bold are the people I know played at least one thousand games here at TL.mafia...
who looks best?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 20:38 GMT
#806
On October 18 2013 05:37 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 05:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar?

I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though
The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2.

We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later.


who are the vets in my QT?

Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77 ?
bold are the people I know played at least one thousand games here at TL.mafia...
who looks best?


Toad, i need you to be more precisely now. Please.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 20:51 GMT
#815
On October 18 2013 05:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 05:37 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 05:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar?

I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though
The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2.

We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later.


who are the vets in my QT?

Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77 ?
bold are the people I know played at least one thousand games here at TL.mafia...
who looks best?

who looks best as in who looks the most townish?
You should probably ask the other question in your QT.


I am asking you because you said one of us is scum. And Syllo looks okay.
Does Syllo look better or worse than me/Yamato/LA whoever
go ahead.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#819
On October 18 2013 05:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm feeling a syllo palmar scum team right now. Lets kill those guys.


I can't feel it. Could you be more specific?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 09:31 GMT
#970
I am pretty sure, that he's scum... I am rereading just now. He was lurking at the beginning of the game and he only posted obvious things like that Grack was roleplaying.
Need to reread more. but so far

##Unvote
##Vote Sn0_Man
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 09:35 GMT
#974
On October 18 2013 18:33 I-be-Pro wrote:
I do agree on Snowman a lot... but I really don't want to vote that


Can you give me the timestamps of when he posted in your QT?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 09:43 GMT
#979
On October 18 2013 18:38 I-be-Pro wrote:
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On October 18 2013 18:35 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:33 I-be-Pro wrote:
I do agree on Snowman a lot... but I really don't want to vote that


Can you give me the timestamps of when he posted in your QT?

Actually I can't... Our QT was apparently compromised and had to be redone, so every post from yesterday is just copy&paste from the hosts with a "-Toad" added to it or something like that, so the timestamps are all fucked up.


what the hell... alright...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 10:02 GMT
#982
On October 18 2013 18:54 Mattchew wrote:
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On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny


what do you think about sn0_man
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1006
hey, you cannot judge me based on my angerlvl. Noone called me scum for terrible reasons yet...
I have holyflare as town because of that one Post where he defended me for that "TOWNS best interest"-thing because I am not a native speaker.
Apart from the fact that he defended me, his defense was quite reasonable and it's just not reasonable for scum to defend me.

Another strong townread of mine is Grack, for being suspicious of Syllo and several other reasons. Being suspicious of Syllo only makes sense if you're not aware of the content in our QT.

I am still suspicious of Toad, matchew and Cephiro
But my primary target is sn0_man.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:17 GMT
#1010
On October 18 2013 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
Sn0 was/is suspicous of syllo...


On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


???

that's what you call suspicious? Do you even try?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#1015
On October 18 2013 21:20 Mattchew wrote:
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On October 18 2013 21:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
Sn0 was/is suspicous of syllo...


On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


???

that's what you call suspicious? Do you even try?

Youre right, scum, especially lesser known players, love to poke at the best player in the game early


that was like the 4.-5. post in the game. That wasn't a serious post.

A serious discussion was first started in this thread, when I proposed, that everyone posts their houselist and toad asked whats going on in the QTs and he presented that skanjab thing.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:30 GMT
#1017
On October 18 2013 21:26 Mattchew wrote:
Yeah didnt realize it was that early, ill drop it


thats nice, because you were wrong:

On October 18 2013 14:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
@Storr he obviously means Syllo and Toad have reputations as really valuable to town, otherwise he'd be more interested in lynching them.


In fact Sn0_man only mentions Syllo once again, here!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:36 GMT
#1019
Now look at sn0_man. He starts lurking when a discussion starts. When toad and I entered the thread, he disappeared. But he wasn't gone! When storr mentioned him during the skanjab discussion, he delurks and attacks skanjab a little and hides again.

How do you judge this behaviour?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:41 GMT
#1021
On October 18 2013 21:38 Mattchew wrote:
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On October 18 2013 21:36 supersoft wrote:
Now look at sn0_man. He starts lurking when a discussion starts. When toad and I entered the thread, he disappeared. But he wasn't gone! When storr mentioned him during the skanjab discussion, he delurks and attacks skanjab a little and hides again.

How do you judge this behaviour?

Idk im too busy being upset about re-reading my case on storr and having to come to the realization that LA is right and i cant really defend it against him just being new...


what?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:50 GMT
#1024
On October 18 2013 21:44 Mattchew wrote:
Yeah w.e i should have listened to everyone early last game too

##unvote
##vote sn0_man


I am stunned by your submission
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:56 GMT
#1028
On October 18 2013 06:58 Cephiro wrote:
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K-pop is better than sex and I could die happy if I got a cute, cheerful Korean waifu.


Okay, so yeah. There have been all kinds of claims about me and my participation in the QT, some more close to the truth, and some intentionally painting me in the worst manner possible. I want to clear that up, but I'll try to keep it short. Basically, today morning I made a short post with random fluff about my own life as the most content, with two points that can be considered relevant.

  • I pointed out my opinion about sharing the information about which players are in which houses.
  • I gave reasoning why I thought that way.


Simply put, as someone that studies statistics, I ran quick calculations and the chances of mafia knowing in which house each player resides is as high as ~91%. I mistakenly worded this the wrong way around in the QT (due to not having slept), which I'm sure everyone in the QT understood. Long story short, in my opinion the chances of mafia already having that information were high enough to basically guarantee that, and if town has the same possibility of gaining that information, they should. There may be roles that become more or less powerful with this information revealed, but I do not expect it to be substantial enough for it to be hidden. And after I made my thoughts clear, the houses and their players are all revealed, so this is mostly meaningless. I wanted to share this so you would know what I had posted, in the name of honesty, and possibly giving someone ideas to go by.

The "additional posts" after that were mainly me raging since I got pissed off at mostly rayn, the way my actions were shared to the thread. The reason I originally didn't also post that short snippet of information I did earlier was that I didn't consider it very important, as well as I wanted to start the game with a proper, contentful post that other players could actually find useful, rather than random sleepy-as-fuck-thoughts. Also I've noticed recently that a bad start seems to haunt you way too easily for the whole duration for the game, thus I didn't want to handicap myself to begin with. This however didn't end up happening due to the actions of other housemates of mine, so I will have to live with that and make the best out of this entry of mine.

In my apology-post in the QT after I had raged before I went for a k-pop pause, I also had a very short speculation about the setup. To share it with everyone, I basically thought due to the reactions of several other people talking about their roles and the setup, and knowing mine, that the setup is most likely completely pre-arranged. (Note: These are assumptions.) Such as: Draco Malfoy is always in Slytherin. Or, Hermione Granger is always town. This is not something worth looking into in my opinion, I was merely posting my thoughts out. As for why I don't consider it important, if I hosted a game myself I'd make sure that any role could be any alignment, simply to avoid "meta-gaming the hosts", since I believe that defeats the purpose of the game. And I find it likely even if most of the setup was made in a traditional, true to flavor manner, some side character at least would have a twist. In any case, end of beginning rant.
E: Re-checking what I remembered, the rules state the mafia has been randomly distributed, which would make this speculation useless, unless you consider the possibility that hosts are lying to keep the option open even if it wasn't for balance reasons.

Now for the players. After reading through the thread again slowly with a k-pop calmed mind I have come to the following opinions and conclusions:

Mattchew:
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On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s

and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?

Useless observation, then a lynch poke in form of a question like he's unsure about it? Doesn't follow through later.

His whole thread contribution is nonexistant so far. What I see is a completely random jump in out of nowhere, to try and buddy yamato. He notices that though, and things go nowhere.

On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:
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On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol.

i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak

Like really, what is the purpose of posts like this?

What I find interesting is that he follows up with a "long" post where he responds to each accusation made against him... incredibly poorly. It doesn't even look like a defense to any extent. At the moment I'm leaning scum mostly since I'd expect more of him, rather than a completely useless, null filter. He hasn't really been pushing a pro-scum agenda or anything, but what ticks me off is the complete lack of anything pro-town.


StorrZerg:
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The definition of useless. All he has done in this game is to show up at a few random times to remind everyone that "I think Sn0_Man should die." And this ONLY post where he provides any kind of "content", is hilariously horrible. I'm not sure if he's even trying. It looks more like complete trolling, which is something we do not need. I mean really, check this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=41#814

3 Arguments which of
1st: Some random shit about flavour
2nd: A post read weird to him -> He checks post history -> Thinks it doesn't line up. This sounds like completely pulled from the ass, especially showing no example.
3rd: Lack of activity, which I can agree with. Not necessarily a scumtell though.

What I wonder is why he chose to concentrate on Sn0_Man, when there are lots of players that have put out more content and can be made better reads on. It could be a case of bad town makes case on inactive town but... I have my doubts, since he has at no point in the game shown interest in anything else.


Palmar:
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As others have seem to noticed, he is completely fixated on Mocsta's self-aware miller claim.

On October 18 2013 05:39 Palmar wrote:
Nope, no current scum reads.

What Mocsta did is only beneficial to him if he's scum, it's bad and awful for him if he's town. That doesn't mean he must be scum, I've seen enough people do dumb stuff as town. Which is precisely why I want to know what was his intention with the claim.


He claims to have no scumreads at all, and he also hints at not having read the thread. Does not provide reasoning for possibly not having two. Doesn't appear to give a fuck about anything else but trying to figure out Mocsta's reasoning for the claim. What I am wondering, does Palmar really think he can't contribute in a better way with all the other content available? We have QTs and we have the thread which grows all the time. I wouldn't mind seeing him lynched.


syllogism:
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On October 17 2013 14:33 syllogism wrote:
I wouldn't bother with the statistical probability of there being mafia in only two houses. It's almost certain that roles have abilities that at least somewhat match their flavor and they were designed before their houses were RNGed. That is to say, mafia characters and roles were designed before any RNG and therefore their houses were not chosen randomly. Even if mafia has fake claims the same thing applies; the fake claims must match their house flavors and it seems very unlikely that those fake claims were designed after players were shuffled.

All this is quite useless at this stage, but may have some utility in the end game if the game is close.

On October 04 2013 05:58 You-Know-Who wrote:
Each player is sorted into a house. Each house has 6 players. Players in the same house will be able to share a house QT.

Mafia have been randomly distributed into each house. Mafia KP is # of scum/3 rounded up.
4 - 6 scum= 2KP
3 or less scum= 1KP

What ticked me off a little about syllos play is this. The rules say that mafia has been randomly distributed into each house. That pretty much completely debunks his posts. I don't say statistics is something that should be trusted completely on, but given a 90%+ chance I think it's quite reasonable to factor in. It's not even close to a coinflip situation, so it's a fair assumption to make that the mafia has the information. I admit I made the same mistake at first until I rechecked the ruleset about this, but what I don't like either is the way he undermines his own post. If you feel it is quite useless at this stage, why share it? Or did he share just for the sake of sharing his thoughts, or does he actually believe this information may be useful in the end-game but not now?
On October 17 2013 15:27 syllogism wrote:
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On October 17 2013 13:36 Pandain wrote:
From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made.
[list]
[*]Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.

[*]Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.

[*]I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.

[*]Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .


[*]StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.

Do you genuinely think this is a list of "very good observations"? The only actual "observation" of any note and utility is the first one and I would like you to elaborate on that a bit. Did you believe he was playing his Thug Life playstyle when I initially asked as to why you thought he was "pretty obviously" town or was that based on something else?

In this post he shares the Gryffindor members which hadn't been done up till that point. I fail to see how that is irrelevant to share with others. Syllo also completely disregards the last point about StorrZerg, which was very valid in my opinion. The usefulness of Pandain's statements can be argued, but in my opinion it's certainly more than syllo gives credit for.

In general, syllos posts seem very calm and analytical. They get straight to the point and have anything unnecessary stripped of them. While this could be very good town play, I feel that these are carefully worded posts that leave anything that could be considered from a scum perspective out. This is partly since his posting gives me the feel of someone stating his opinions in many things, but it doesn't seem like he is actually trying to figure anything out.


4 other people I am suspicious of and will make small cases on unless I change my read strongly:
rayko (rayn+Koshi)
holyflare
skanjab1s
Vayne

Also... I'm looking for smart lovers. Post your application ASAP. I know you can't resist my charm. It is the theme of the game after all. <3


the issue I have with his list of people he "analyzed" is that everyone had a certain opinion about these guys at this point of time. So Cephiro didn't bring anything new to the table and the post is not helpful at all if we want to get info about his alignment. He just summarizes the bits that were thrown around in this thread up to that point of time.

His additional list contains only easy targets, too. Except holyflare. He doesn't really fit in there. But because Ceph doesnt give any reasoning for that list, we don't know why he made his way in there.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 12:59 GMT
#1029
His post is too slick. It's exactly what you expect from someone who doesn't want to get noticed. However at this point of time he already had been under light suspicion.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 16:47 GMT
#1105
On October 19 2013 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:
If only there was some kind of third alternative presented!


do you doubt house ravenclaw?

On October 19 2013 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
So I have a problem with the current situation. If Cephiro is scum, its like very very likely that I get lynched today. That really isn't OK. And if he isn't scum then we are mislynching him, which is not really OK but less bad. So can we fix this by either getting more votes on cephiro, getting less on me, or coming up with something concrete on somebody? Something as simple as the 7 non-voters just placing their votes would be helpful.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 16:48 GMT
#1106
On October 19 2013 01:47 supersoft wrote:
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On October 19 2013 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:
If only there was some kind of third alternative presented!


do you doubt house ravenclaw?

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On October 19 2013 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
So I have a problem with the current situation. If Cephiro is scum, its like very very likely that I get lynched today. That really isn't OK. And if he isn't scum then we are mislynching him, which is not really OK but less bad. So can we fix this by either getting more votes on cephiro, getting less on me, or coming up with something concrete on somebody? Something as simple as the 7 non-voters just placing their votes would be helpful.



Sorry but they're both scum
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 16:54 GMT
#1113
Sidenote: I think everyone should take his pickup line back. My house is suited best for the item. Seriously.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 17:00 GMT
#1117
On October 19 2013 00:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
For some reason I cannot read and think at the same time today. Cephiro can save himself by posting. After that Palmar would be my second choice.


On October 19 2013 01:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I am just waiting with anticipation what Cephiro will say when he comes back. When he says:
1) guys I have not read the thread because yabayabayabayaba.
2) I am putting my vote on snowman because I am town.

If it is either of these 2 or both we lynch him no matter what.


On October 19 2013 01:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
3) If he doesn't come back we also lynch him.

Deal guys?


I just want to save this. I cannot follow your thoughtprocess.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 17:15 GMT
#1131
On October 19 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear supersoft. Please say what you mean to say. I don't read minds and can't figure out what your posts are implying.


There is not much to say. You're playstyle at the start of the game made me suspicious of you and I still am.
You could tell me a story why you disappeared when a serious conversation started and you delurked when storrzergdude called you out. If the story is good, I might buy it.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 17:18 GMT
#1134
On October 19 2013 02:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
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On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote:
this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily

this


don't worry, thats because sn0 and ceph are both scum. I already posted that in the ravencalw QT:
If both wagons are on scum, it's pretty hard for scum to push a thirdguy right away. You need to wait until the steam behind the stronger case runs low.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 17:20 GMT
#1135
On October 19 2013 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
I still don't particularly "like" the Cephiro lynch. But I'm OK with it. Its uncommon for me to "like" day 1 lynches because as I've already stated nobody's flipped yet.

Can you quote some "scummy" stuff for me then? You think its scummy that I lurked. *shrug*. There's lots of other lurkers. You think its scummy that I'm voting Cephiro. *shrug* theres lots of others voting Cephiro many with no more reason than I. You think its scummy that my defense boils down to "I'm not scummier than anybody else". *shrug* its true I'm not scummier than anybody else. Its hard to defend against accusations that don't imply scum. The best I can do is point out that half the thread is guilty of anything you can come up with against me and that I'm not scum. I can't find scum today and somehow thats not OK for me but its fine for your prime scumread yamato and at least 5 other people. Getting RNG tunnelled is off-putting.

Just quit tunnelling its really obnoxious.


Is this supposed to be a response to my allegation? What has yamato to do with all this?!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 19:30 GMT
#1252
I need a full claim Cephiro. Your emotional reaction is not really convincing me. I can do that, too. In fact i did it as scum several times...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#1255
that list look ahm... okay... :-/
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 20:20 GMT
#1369
friends came over and i couldnt be around. didnt know that in beforehand.
sorry Palmar. Idk what happened. Again. He fucking played correctly as town RBer. I am pissed.

We lynch semiactive people with no high lategamepotential early on.
Why don't you understand this. We push 2 targets and finish one off. That way we gain info.
I agree that ceph was no good lynch in the end. Bit sn0 still was an option.
i am really pissed...
That lynch made no sense whatsoever.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 20:23 GMT
#1375
On October 19 2013 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On October 19 2013 05:20 supersoft wrote:
friends came over and i couldnt be around. didnt know that in beforehand.
sorry Palmar. Idk what happened. Again. He fucking played correctly as town RBer. I am pissed.

We lynch semiactive people with no high lategamepotential early on.
Why don't you understand this. We push 2 targets and finish one off. That way we gain info.
I agree that ceph was no good lynch in the end. Bit sn0 still was an option.
i am really pissed...
That lynch made no sense whatsoever.

He wasn't RB he was one shot day/night vig lol.


stun =/= kill
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 20:23 GMT
#1378
On October 19 2013 05:23 supersoft wrote:
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On October 19 2013 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:20 supersoft wrote:
friends came over and i couldnt be around. didnt know that in beforehand.
sorry Palmar. Idk what happened. Again. He fucking played correctly as town RBer. I am pissed.

We lynch semiactive people with no high lategamepotential early on.
Why don't you understand this. We push 2 targets and finish one off. That way we gain info.
I agree that ceph was no good lynch in the end. Bit sn0 still was an option.
i am really pissed...
That lynch made no sense whatsoever.

He wasn't RB he was one shot day/night vig lol.


stun =/= kill


nvm didnt read correctly on my phone.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 20:25 GMT
#1382
anyway i am really really pissed right now. toad, syllo and LA. I thought you got this. we never discussed Palmar as a lynch d1.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 20:26 GMT
#1383
On October 19 2013 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 19 2013 05:23 supersoft wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:20 supersoft wrote:
friends came over and i couldnt be around. didnt know that in beforehand.
sorry Palmar. Idk what happened. Again. He fucking played correctly as town RBer. I am pissed.

We lynch semiactive people with no high lategamepotential early on.
Why don't you understand this. We push 2 targets and finish one off. That way we gain info.
I agree that ceph was no good lynch in the end. Bit sn0 still was an option.
i am really pissed...
That lynch made no sense whatsoever.

He wasn't RB he was one shot day/night vig lol.


stun =/= kill

KP = kill?!


oh yes of course. your afk for 2 days and now you delirk to tell me this? are you kidding me? Seriously!
go back in your scumcave
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#1416
sn0 give me your characters name in the next 3 minutes or you wont survive the night.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:20 GMT
#1418
if your town respect your wincon please. seriously.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:22 GMT
#1419
female is not enough
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:27 GMT
#1424
dont try to fool me. i think it's boys vs. girls and you're a dude since your scumbuddys figured that out before i did.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:28 GMT
#1427
why would you know, that i only wanted to know your gender. your name is completely irrelevant for me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:34 GMT
#1430
toad. Yo. Your scumbuddy! Toad is such a sneaky scummer! Once again his scumplay impresses me!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 21:55 GMT
#1439
i know youre dead anyway. i am 99% sure youre a dude and youre scum. only a townie claiming male will save you... maybe. because even if that girl boy thing is bs, I think youre scum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 22:05 GMT
#1443
i am still puzzled why palmar seriously got killed d1 for no reason...
this is unbelieveable.
you just dont lynch certain players d1.
now i remember why i have to be so mad every game and why i quit playing mafia on a regular basis...

i really loved Aces bangbang mafia where i just shot people in their faces. it was beautiful.
okay now seriously i have no gun. you dont need to roleblock me. sn0 will survive :----)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 22:27 GMT
#1449
On October 19 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Stutters seems like a solid vig shot too. You can trust modconfirmed-townie syllo that I'm a bad vig shot lol.


No he seems not. Stutters is no vigshot.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 22:45 GMT
#1455
Just trust me on this one.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#1461
On October 19 2013 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 19 2013 07:45 supersoft wrote:
Just trust me on this one.

Why would I.


Because I have information you dont have.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 19 2013 07:49 GMT
#1469
sorry toad your claim right now is retarded. are you female? is grack female?
+ if youre both town. scum will shoot one of you for sure. 2 for 1 thats a great deal
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 19 2013 20:54 GMT
#1613
G_G friends :-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 24 2013 20:04 GMT
#4055
holy moses guys.
(sorry...)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 03 2013 19:23 GMT
#5881
I think scum should focus more on shooting blues. I mean why do you shoot me? I basically claimed VT in here. And in my QT. Sidenote: I expected much more squibs in this game tbh...

On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
one question are you a squib?


And if you know Syllo is innocent child, you need to try to get to the medics first, before you try to kill him. Marv wasn't the best kill n1, too since you had the info that he's only a mason.
Yes we probably were the ones who established their "townieness" best but snajab, storrzerg and koshi were decent n1 targets, too. Maybe even sn0_man, since he had been in the focus for a bit and it's unlikely, that he comes in the focus again.

G_G
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