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I suggest we lynch somebody from Slytherin. | ||
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Bring it on slytherin scum | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:47 supersoft wrote: you realize that i was asking you a question... do you? I'll put it in there as well. No worries. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote: There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. There are 6 scummers and 4 Houses. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote: State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall. "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote: There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" | ||
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"guis I am town because I have no clue how the scums are divided between the Houses" | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:04 Skanjab1s wrote: You know the compositions of each house, huh? 1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House? 2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum? | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:09 Skanjab1s wrote: 1) Duh 2) You are trying to make it seem as if I'm asking these questions to pretend that I don't know the answers. Calling me scum for asking what house someone is in is retarded. Twice the right answer. New question: 1) Why are you twisting my words and pretending that I just scumslipped when you knew the purpose behind my post? | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote: Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely. I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum. skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him? rayn will sign his posts. Also we will be a beacon of towniness. Don't worry about us. | ||
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On October 11 2013 04:20 FirmTofu wrote: Yes, editing is enforced in the House QTs but not in the Scum QTs. That is correct, quoting from House QTs is prohibited but paraphrasing is fine. ^ | ||
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plz tell the thread why you are certain I am scum. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:32 Skanjab1s wrote: Are you talking to me? Where did I call you scum at all? On October 17 2013 07:27 Skanjab1s wrote: I wasn't, your asking for the purpose behind the post made me realise it. When you said "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" it implied that you knew how many scum there are(and you do). So for the "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House" it also implied that you knew who was in each house. When you asked me for the purpose I realised that it was not the case for the latter quote. The bolded? | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:16 Sn0_Man wrote: Theres a certain amount of scum motivation to not trying the pickup line challenge simply because you feel like another house could be influenced more easily by scum. Since a scum player would know which house had the most scummers in it (and/or the least strong town) What is the scum motivation by saying it in the QT that you won't participate? He can always hide that fact. imo saying you won't participate is null and probably a ploy to get reactions or something. Let's see how he follows up. | ||
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On October 17 2013 19:17 Onegu wrote: The hydra really needs to say who is actually writeing, I am very confident in my ability to read koshi as I have pegged him in every game we have played, but I dont read rayne well. I also dont have a problem with people not wanting to win the contest. I dont think it is scummy just anti town. I am going to reread some people after dinner. rayn will sign his posts. But don't expect too many posts from him. | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:04 LastArgument wrote: What is his scum meta? This statement is useless without qualification. Yeah true, but he hasn't posted enough so I'll keep it for myself for a while. Let's say I put a strong FoS on him and you can call me out on it later. Cephiro said the chance that he skimmed the thread but nothing too bad happened, that there is a 91% chance that 6 scummers are in 2 houses or less (I guess he means 9%), and that keeping things in QT only is beneficial for mafia for that reason. | ||
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I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway. | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote: you're dropping things pretty quickly you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me? 1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it. 2) Because you were just baiting people to say something. | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:20 supersoft wrote: you didn't think about my vote at all or did you? The issue i have with you is, that I think you don't care that much about the things going on in here. You care about participating at the discussion. Not so much about the outcome. Cephiro is in my House so there is really 0 reasons for you to vote him except gain silly reactions. Pretty sure I went after skanjab yesterday so I/ others could get a read on him. What do you think of Pandain his opening post? | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:22 LastArgument wrote: How do you view Skanjab at the moment? Do you believe in what you wrote about him still, or what? If you're convinced that it was bad, what was it that convinced you of this? Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad. Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that. | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:31 syllogism wrote: This is not at all the conclusion you make for the skepticism. No one has strong feelings regarding Skanjab's alignment based on the few posts he has made so far and he could definitely be mafia. If you think he is mafia you should be pursuing him. I'm not sure what to make of your attitude as the whole "drop all suspicions immediately" is bordering too suspicious to actually be mafia territory. I am not dropping all suspicion. I am dropping my previous line of thinking out of the reasons why I think he is scum. What do you think of Pandain opening post? | ||
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Worst filter is probably Zaragon. | ||
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On October 17 2013 21:16 Skanjab1s wrote: You say that you initially went after me to get a read on me, and you also say that I'm not a townread for you, then why would you not want to pursue me further? I am either a null read, in which case you should want to continue in your initial intention, or I am a scumread and you should want to get me lynched. Either way, hoping for others to attack me for you while you sit back isn't very protown. Well I think there are more towns in here that can pressure you. I'll watch you. But atm I think there are others worth pressuring. What do you think about Zaragon, Mr. Snowman and VA? Small filters I know. | ||
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On October 17 2013 22:58 Skanjab1s wrote: That was not the only point in the case, but I disagree, it comes off as "testing the waters" which is inherently scummy. I am also not under the impression that VA was trolling yam, I thought that the "Expelliarmus" was an ability of his. VA could you clarify, please? He said in House QT it was a joke to see "yamato worried" | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:24 Zaragon wrote: Knowing it's Koshi writing, the rapid change of subjects and reads fits your town playstyle reasonably well. But you do seem less curious and more suprious than I've seen you before. Don't know what to make of that, so null right now. What is "worst filter" about? If you're just comparing me to my Newbie XVIII play, fair enough, I'm not in shape to play that way at the moment. I still don't see "worst", and are you talking about my play level or calling me scummy? On Mocsta, so far I'm getting the same vibe I had early Noir, towny by personality read with some suspicious hints. I'll put a light town lean on him. Honestly, maybe more than light, considering how that game turned out. On skanjab1s, it wouldn't be an obvious choice to make a case on yamato if he's scum. The quality of the case is decent, but I'm still expecting a yamato wall of text coming soon whether he's town or scum and I'll only be able to put a read on yamato together when I compare his early probing with his analysis. I did a meta dive on skanjab1s, he's playing similarly to his town game except slightly less content per post until his yamato case. I'd say he falls into the newer player range; it makes slightly more sense to know he's played a couple of games under different names and thus is not quite a smurf and not quite a new player. Out of game note: + Show Spoiler + Will need a replace if I can't fix something with meds in the next ~2 hours. Sorry guys It's that you made 2 posts and they were solely about skanjab & me. And the part about me was: "I wont be able to read rayn/koshi this game" and after that "oh ok, maybe I can read rayn/Koshi after all". But there was no effort into trying to read me. But it is good that you followed up on that now. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Vayne | ||
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I like this. There are many townies like: Holyflare, Pandain, yamato, Vayne, syllogism, supersoft, skanjab, Toad. Dunno if i missed someone. Then Koshi put our vote on the wrong place. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Cephiro This guy is not getting away with same shit he did in Noire for 3 days. -rayn | ||
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1) arrogantly claimed town 2) gave away townread for Pandain first post (which is good but not nearly close to 100% town material) 3) Gave reasons why Grack could be either town or scum and didn't give away what he was leaning on. I don't agree with this making Vayne scum and not having been here i had no opportunity to discuss this with Koshi until now. We are in the middle of it right now. I really do think Vayne's attitude is town!Vayneish. atm i do not care what he says. I care about how he says stuff, especially on D1. -rayn | ||
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EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got? -rayn | ||
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yamato this is not helping. Vote for Cephiro -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote: it is physically incapable for me to be mafia anyhow, I am one of the main characters. the one that banged harry potter. zer0 chance of me being mafia until a scum flips with a good guy name. I doubt that will happen tho. Wasn't the sis of Ron quite awkward love story wise? She might be scummer in a love story themed Harry Potter game. That being said, you just going to hide behind adhom and your character name? I remember you being very pro friendlyness in Thug Life. | ||
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On October 12 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is what most people go wrong with Vayne. That just doesn't work. He does stuff and interacts with you if you do it right. But never ever be aggressive or threaten him. He is usually quite spot on with his reads but how to interact with him is the question here, and being aggressive is not the answer. Now stop it. If you think he is mafia, vote for him and give your reasons (hint: he's not) but don't do this what you are doing atm yamato and Pandain. -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 04:27 Blazinghand wrote: PS i literally haven't read the thread or know anything ok bye You will still die n1. Sorry. | ||
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On October 18 2013 04:36 StorrZerg wrote: how is this in anyway helpful? Vayne plzzzzzzzzzz shit happens move on lets lynch Sn0_man? ok? can't be the only one who reads him as scum. He hasn't posted yet... | ||
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Mostly i don't like the fact that he posts in QT and not in thread. When i tell him to go post in thread instead of the QT what he does? Posts more into the QT about how shitty my/Pandain's scumread on him is. That's not how you prove your towniness, all this could be well if he just posted here, gave some thoughts about something. Instead he has been only defending himself and continuing doing the same thing he's been called out for. His last post in the QT implies he is reading the thread. It's been 2,5 hours. I am waiting for some amazing analysis from him. -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 06:35 justanothertownie wrote: Hi thread. I am still not completely caught up and won't manage to do so this evening. I will constantly be active for several hours well before deadline when I arrive at home tomorrow. That's a promise. Can you tell us a little bit about what you are thinking? | ||
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I agree with your read on Matt & Storr though. I do not think it necessarily makes Matt scum, as he was pretty useless in Noir, do you remember it? -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 07:06 LastArgument wrote: That post from Cephiro looks ok. Probably enough for him to live today, pending him actually doing other things later as well. Remind me to talk about this tomorrow if i forget. There is something i need to check regarding his post. -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 07:20 LastArgument wrote: I'm not going to go read other games right now, but the post looks markedly less whiny than the posts I read in LXII. You would be surprised about the amount of "whiny" there is in our house QT from him.. You just need to read the first page of Ceph in Aperture. Here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424349&user=Cephiro | ||
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Palmar's "apathy" seems like town!Palmar. I can't really explain that better at this point. I have no idea of Sno, i always want to lynch him. Need to see more from him. -rayn | ||
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This is about Ceph i wrote in our house QT: The problem with Cephiro is that he is not interested in finding mafia. He is more interested in explaining himself. This is something that i associate with scum. Everything said about him could be debunked by him posting in thread and finding scum instead of him explaining his actions to us here. This is something i have not seen him do as town, and i have seen him do this as scum. I hope i am being clear enough. Does someone disagree with me on this? Meta on Sn0 suggests town. ET one question; You seem to be angry? Why? -rayn | ||
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On October 18 2013 11:48 Holyflare wrote: Rayn, for Ceph, he did both in his 1 post. He explained and pointed out targets that he thought were scum. Isn't that just a confusion of the two traits you said he displayed as both factions? More importantly, has he been active in the QT since his big post? Explained what he posted and why he posted it his reads -- elaborated a bit more on some oh his reads. like wtf, why not post in thread? Then he told why he will not post for a while and elaborated a bit on reads on Holy/Skan. again wtf, why not post that in thread? Cephiro's posting seems far more restricted and does not feel genuine in comparsion to Aperture. -rayn | ||
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I can't take the risk. | ||
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1) guys I have not read the thread because yabayabayabayaba. 2) I am putting my vote on snowman because I am town. If it is either of these 2 or both we lynch him no matter what. | ||
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Cephiro good. Listen to Syllo if you can't decide on your own, he has had pretty good arguments. I am at LAN-party so Koshi will handle this, i think we are mostly on the same page besides not having been online at the same times for ~18h. -rayn | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:00 supersoft wrote: I just want to save this. I cannot follow your thoughtprocess. Well, if Cephiro comes back and posts properly we don't lynch him. Otherwise we lynch him. What is so hard to understand? | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:00 supersoft wrote: I just want to save this. I cannot follow your thoughtprocess. He is saying that because that's exactly what Cephiro did in Noire where he was scum. Promises that were broken over and over again because he had no idea what to do as scum. -rayn | ||
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Do you have any scumreads besides Vayne/Stutters or did those change over time? | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:25 Grackaroni wrote: Why did you think Palmar is town again Rayn? He clearly does care about getting lynched and threw in some more Mocsta nonsense to save himself but doesn't give a shit about scum hunting. On October 18 2013 06:21 LastArgument wrote: No, you have no idea what you're talking about. Scum-Palmar isn't usually this brazen about not participating. I challenge you to find a single game where he basically starts off by happily telling people he's not read the thread and maybe he'll participate, maybe not. Doesn't make him town, but your argument is a bad one. This is the reason rayn gave me. I think rayn townread has to do with meta. | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:26 Sn0_Man wrote: Don't think I ever called vayne scum. Could lynch him for troll but I like that less after mulling it over since considering the game's I've played with him when he was scum he was much more conciliatory and "working together" with the thread, and when he was town he was really abrasive and never really felt the need to do cases or working together stuff. Stutters is just afk. However, people who feel the need to elaborate everything in RL that is preventing them from posting flip scum most of the time in my experience. I dislike Skanjab and SuperSoft atm but thats mostly just omgus. I'm as happy with the Cephiro lynch as I think I would be with anybody else today barring something popping up so I'm on him. That's not really much now is it? | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:06 LoneMeow wrote: Can someone else from the same house comment on how accurate this assessment is? It's very true. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote: ..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing. I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum. Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_- See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that. See at least you can try and remove the useless part. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:27 syllogism wrote: Sigh, this lynch is way too easy, but we can always blame it on Rayn Blame it on the left head. | ||
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On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote: 1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever. At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs. I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming". You have posted fucking three times in total! That's not close to "posting every 5 minutes". What the fuck are you doing? -rayn | ||
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10 minutes. Let's see if he can make 2 contribution before getting lynched. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:20 Blazinghand wrote: hi im late for lunch and hung over do you need me for shenannies? Nha, we are ok. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:16 Mocsta wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19840059 this is so de ja vu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20004765 Thats where i saw it. Very similar to how he talks about Palmar and then Syllo. Note: Kush was scum and JAT was town... does this mean palmar is scum and syllo town? This is really freaky the similarity.. my vote isn't moving. That's what i have been fucking saying all the time. -rayn | ||
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##vote: StorrZerg He and Mattchew are actually people I don't really like. I am liking Cephiro now. But only because of those notes. Cephiro: 1 fucking post is not enough, stop whining about we metaing you when it is the only thing we have when you decide to bitch and whine 24/7 and make 1 good post in 47 hours. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:43 Grackaroni wrote: Don't lynch Mattchew or Storrzerg Why?? | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote: I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.) LastArgument was feeling a town Mattchew. So I am not going Mattchew. | ||
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Shit goes down here: On October 19 2013 04:30 Cephiro wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Okay so.. I'm happy that I'm good enough to play with the same style as both scum and town and having them viable. I'm sad that established TL-players are so confident in their "meta-gaming skills". Maybe they'll learn one day. Maybe. I remember being sad about it over a year ago when I went to the army. I guess things don't change that much. Someone asked me about my opinion on the Sn0_Man lynch, I personally think it's a mislynch. The flaws in his play are that he hasn't been very committal nor active at scumhunting, but the way he responds to pressure and says his opinions make me think he's town. As well as the fact that even though he is on my wagon, he doesn't seem to be very content with it. (Of course a townie has to put his vote somewhere, and scum pushed me up well enough to not leave many other options.) It seems like players haven't even considered other options properly. Someone suggested I should die, painted me to look a little worse than what I really am due to my lack of activity, and boom, case closed. Train full speed ahead. Gonna post all my reads now since I'm not very positive about myself surviving. Even though I am a main character, I don't consider my role extremely powerful, so maybe a worse mislynch may get prevented if anything. Since time is short, this is a straight copypaste from my notepad file. This is up to date to my first post only (page 42-ish), but holds very true. + Show Spoiler + Hogwarts Mafia Player list by house: ******************* Gryffindor: ******************* 1. Cephiro - Towniest Town Alive Give coin to Toad 3. Pandain - Probably Town 5. VayneAuthority (Ginny Weasley?) - Bad start in thread. Puts time into setup speculation. Fishes for reaction from yamato, tbh I like. Plays too ignorantly. 6. raynpelikonoshi - Pushes at start for bad reasons. Ugh. Why not push if you could? Too wishywashy. Makes me look bad on purpose. 18. Stutters695 - Null/Lurk 20. justanothertownie - super null ******************** Slytherin: Active QT ******************** 2. Sn0_Man - Good points. Sharp. Fluff. 7. EchelonTee - Wants to hear from Mattchew, good pickup. Good points. Shares his house, late in the game. Valid points. Defends himself properly. 12. I-be-Pro - Seems ok, good points. Pro-town. Setup speculation. Thinks his role is anti-town. 14. Skanjab1s - Suspicious question in QT, good logic but false example. Ambigious answers. Defends rayko after pressured by him. Tries hard. Crap. Not useful. wants to fill? Seems like he gets helped by scumbuddies. 16. Blazinghand 19. Mocsta - Self-aware Miller claim. Seems like town. Would fit within theme. (Good guy Slytherin looks bad because Slytherin?) Plays pro-town. Coin? ********************* Hufflepuff: G+2H lots of discussion in topic instead of QT.. good thing? ********************* 4. Grackaroni - Suspicious about his own house. Town w/ hopeless? Wants to stay under the radar. Town blue? Too easy townread on yamato. 8. Mattchew - Almost insta-jump on miller claim, nothing else. Weird.. Random jump to talk with yamato, nothing else. Weirder.. Just like really bad. Addresses all points made on him, but poorly. 11. Palmar - Jumps in to question Mocsta claim, nothing else. Sticks to that. Nothing else. EXTREMELY useless. Too focused on claim. 21. Hopeless1der - A bit more careful in the G+2H discussion. Town? Interesting ability speculation. Reasonable in his opinions. Coin? Maybe not very tricky? 22. Holyflare - Seemingly ok attitude about QT, weird defense on Skanjab1s Very concentrated on Grack/Hopeless about not competing. A bit too trigger-happy? Interesting opinion about not caring about what scum does? 23. StorrZerg - Asked about how much mafia in where. Same as Skanjab1s Seems to be chiming in for irrelevant stuff. Random Sn0_Man accusation. ********************* Ravenclaw: ********************* 9. Onegu - Useless, too many sorries or truly busy? 10. LoneMeow - 13. syllogism - Setup post that he claims useless, doesn't make much sense. Points things out favourably for his opinion. (Ignores StorrZerg comment.) Good points when it doesn't hurt mafia play. 15. supersoft - generally good vibe 17. LastArgument - Valid point, I like. Coin? 24. yamato77 - Just bad, shares information related to activity only. Filler activity. Does, doesn't. Notices Matt's buddying attempt, good. Wants himself to be analysed. Not pro-mafia. + Show Spoiler + REDACTED Suggestions(Townreads): LastArgument Hopeless1der Mocsta EchelonTee Pandain I-be-Pro Scum: StorrZerg Mattchew Maybe?: rayko holyflare syllo Palmar VayneAuthority skanjab1s The first one to get his vote off Cephiro is sn0man. On October 19 2013 04:40 Sn0_Man wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Stutters Apologies for not giving stutter's full name but it wasn't in the post count and i'm lazy  There is NOTHING in the thread to explain this change and he moves to one of his "scumreads". Snowman has no reads this game but decided to go off Cephiro as first, not pushing an or his alternative. Hmm. I don't really like it. On October 19 2013 04:33 Sn0_Man wrote: What is this coin stuff (I assume it has to do with your role?) Second to get his vote off Cephiro am I. I had to leave for soccer in 9 minutes and felt like StorrZerg was the better lynch On October 19 2013 04:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: StorrZerg He and Mattchew are actually people I don't really like. I am liking Cephiro now. But only because of those notes. Cephiro: 1 fucking post is not enough, stop whining about we metaing you when it is the only thing we have when you decide to bitch and whine 24/7 and make 1 good post in 47 hours. With 15 minutes to go we get following votes: On October 19 2013 04:45 Hopeless1der wrote: deal with palmar tomorrow please. especially if he's going to get himself modkilled, but I'd rather give him a chance to try instead of last-minute hammering him. I also dislike mocsta insisting we lynch the guy who has been replaced, but I guess thats just me. ##Unvote Will end up on Stutters On October 19 2013 04:46 I-be-Pro wrote: ##unvote ##vote palmar That notesheet doesn't fit the reason we're lynching Ceph for. On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote: ##vote Palmar reason: On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote: I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.) and afterwards when mattchew gets traction: On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Mattchew Holyflare makes a case on Mattchew in the thread and votes accordingly: On October 19 2013 04:48 Holyflare wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew People sheep: On October 19 2013 04:49 Mocsta wrote: ##Vote: MAttchew On October 19 2013 04:50 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE MATTCHEW On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Mattchew Now 8 fucking minutes before deadline it gets interesting. Remember kids: There was not much time left and Holyflare might have forced scum to show face with his case Mocsta moves off Mattchew AFTER 2 more people vote Mattchew and withing 3 minutes after his previous vote!!!!! On October 19 2013 04:52 Mocsta wrote: ##unvote ##vote: blazinghand And look at this. Cephiro his first vote and preffered lynch target was Mattchew. Guess what suddenly happens: On October 19 2013 04:54 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##vote Palmar This is not to save himself like Cephiro first used as reason to vote Palmar. This looks like trying to save Mattchew. The guy HE WANTS TO LYNCH. This happens 4 minutes after he votes for his favorite lynch of the day.... On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Joins the Palmar lynch. Reason: On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote: I'm going back on what I said earlier about Palmar and voting to lynch him. Plus I like to sheep syllogism. Cephiro, if you're pulling this bullshit as mafia, I'll be distinctly unimpressed, and you will not be allowed to skirt by not contributing during the next cycle. Would prefer to kill Palmar than Mattchew, we're not losing an asset in Palmar if he's not willing to play, and I don't like the fact that Palmar is avoiding syllogism ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar The fact that LastArgument states that he is going against his earlier read is towny imo. Also, his town read on syllo was correct. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Look at the indecision of JAT On October 19 2013 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: ##unvote On October 19 2013 04:44 justanothertownie wrote: I would switch to palmar. On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote: I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Now because I think that Mattchew is scum I am really disliking JAT atm. See, I don't like Mocsta at all anymore. He goes from Mattchew which was in his eyes a good lynch --> Too Blazinghands because he is certain about Zaragon ---> PALMAR??????? Then there are these guys: On October 19 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote: ##unvote ##vote Palmar Only because stutters wont fly.  Mehhh. On October 19 2013 04:58 StorrZerg wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Palmar Ninjavote This is what Mattchew was doing during the vote race: NOTHING This is what he said when it was (almost) done: On October 19 2013 04:57 Mattchew wrote: wait what the fuck is going on Conclusion If Mattchew is scum I would take serious looks at Cephiro, JAT and Mocsta. Storrzerg ninjavote was terrible. I feel him as scum. Stutters played it all alone and I do NOT feel him as scum because of that. Snowman voting patters was terrible. Him going after Stutters for 48 hours is looking bad now. I have no other conclusions to make out of the vote race. Maybe others see things I missed. I do think this sums everything up nicely. 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On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote: this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily | ||
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Mocsta Mattchew Cephiro Any of these 3 will do. | ||
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Can you explain to me why you said this: On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote: I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.) Why did you go Palmar to save yourself--> Mattchew your favorite lynch ---> back to Palmar for no reason at all??? (except to save Mattchew) Do you see how there is no Palmar in your updated reads: On October 19 2013 04:32 Cephiro wrote: Kill rayn, Storr, Matt. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case. I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though. No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me. There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar. So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam. But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew. Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it. ^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro) And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads. Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:28 syllogism wrote: I really can't see mafia Mocsta making this post knowing that Cephiro is mafia as well. It would either mean that he is faking his disgust or him taking advantage of very cheap play with similarly cheap play. Either way, I would be highly disappointed in him. I agree. But as both scummers Mocsta had an easy time to catch this monstrosity and might have been so disgusted he trew it in the thread. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: I reread Hopeless and am way less convinced than yesterday. If someone is interested in my reasoning I can post it but since he obviously won't be lynched I think this should be postponed for now. ##Vote: Cephiro Nothing on Cephiro. On October 19 2013 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: I have voted - that's why I said try again. My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him. Cephiro is a good lynch. Still no reasons. On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote: I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters. Actual reasons to vote for somebody. Except for JAT case on Hopelessder the first reasons JAT has to think somebody is scum. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Better vote Palmar!!! | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote: Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed. I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam. Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was. I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA. One of the 6 was this guy On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote: ##vote Palmar But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4. So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4. And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes. So JAT? Why so scummy? And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:50 Grackaroni wrote: Hah JAT isn't reading the thread. JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum. You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great. It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive? Why so scummy? | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:02 justanothertownie wrote: It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand? Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment. Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again' You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2. I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: Why are you lying about me? Cephiro: Palmar: He didn't do shit. I did not like it. Yeah, I probably won't be killed - we agree on that. Ok cool. Thx. I kinda only looked at the posts you voted it. And a bit around that. Hmm. Dnu, about you JAT, Dnu. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote: My thoughts about people from my house Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town. Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him. Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. )Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting. If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:28 justanothertownie wrote: Look. We agree on something! If there is scum in every house - we don't know that. If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why? Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg? | ||
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Mocsta Mattchew Those 3 interest me for Day 2. | ||
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On October 20 2013 04:39 syllogism wrote: Rayn is one of the easiest town reads to make in this game and should never be lynched This is correct and Toad, who else? yamato was confused because he did not read that i sign my posts and Koshi does not. Who else? I have not been reading closely, so i dunno if there is someone else -- but you said "people" which indicates there is more than yamato. -rayn | ||
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"Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff." That's why he was scum. -rayn | ||
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On October 20 2013 05:26 syllogism wrote: Definitely not modconfirmed. He said Stutters was very unresponsive in their mason qt and PMs. Stutters is very unimpressive in house QT aswell. -rayn | ||
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On October 20 2013 05:33 syllogism wrote: I don't think Pandain would have posted this at the time when Cephiro had 11 votes if Cephiro is mafia, although people were starting to get second thoughts at the time. See Thug life where Pandain defended PAlmar in the same manner. -rayn | ||
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Crazy shizzle. Supersoft was yelling that both cephiro and snowman are scum. WIFOM kill or respect kill? Also 4 pages of filter and possible active inside the house? The other 2 townies I need to reread still. LA made a good post. A long one with a lot of reads that were really different than my reads D: but he was onto LM so thats impressive. I forgot the rest. AND THEN 3 scumkills :D so awesome. I need to know how that happened. Who had the balls to shoot Pandain. Damn sexy. LM same but less sexy but still sexy. And then scummers probably killed off ET. Thank you! Rofl. So yeah. Today I can take a day off and sheep BH and syllo. Yay for town! | ||
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On October 20 2013 08:28 justanothertownie wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want to sheep BH. Seriously... Well we should ask Pandain why he always kill........WAIT A SECOND. PANDAIN WAS SCUM AND BH IS ALIVE. BH is going to be scum ]: | ||
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On October 20 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote: Not sure if serious. ET was scum? IMO ET got vig shot because he was coming under suspicion from a lot of people at night. As he was partnered with toad they both died. The 2 kp were obviously SS and LA and then Pandain is either SK or random vigi shot which would make no sense so I'm leaning more towards an SK. LM is also vig shot because of more suspicion. I was totally serious. | ||
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On October 20 2013 08:34 Holyflare wrote: This. Look at BH's filter, 3 pages and it's all useless spam shit. What is more curious is how mocsta could have an entire read on Zaragon/BH and he can see BH doing this trolly shit but he doesn't even mention that shit in his last case post on mattchew???? Yeah bussing gets difficult when only 3 scummers remain D:. Hey I can totally sheep you today as well. I loved your play D1. Keep it up! | ||
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On October 20 2013 16:55 syllogism wrote: First of all, it's now hard to believe that we ignored this guy. Secondly, this Holyflare mention is completely out of place and nonsensical and suspicious. He is "interesting" , but "will eventually slip up"? What? Pandain seems to have been fond of throwing out a few townie suspicions and one mafia for good measure. Btw at this point Pandain was being grilled by Holyflare. Might be the reason for that line. They had quite a big going back and forth between the 2. | ||
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On October 18 2013 11:41 Holyflare wrote: @ET: Your case relied upon him apologising a lot, however, all you have to do is check the TL mafia database and look at his previous games. I have checked almost all of them and then did a ctrl+f search for "sorry", it appears in EVERY game many times. So I do not think it is alignment indicative for Onegu, especially to base a whole case off of. + Show Spoiler [Onegu] + Newbie Mini Mafia XLII Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII Mafia Tracker Lynched Day 3 Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 3 Nuclear Winter Mafia Town Immune One Endgamed Day 5 A Bluelightz Mafia The Attack Mafia Vigilante Survived Day 4 GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 Desert Mini Mafia Mafia Conditional Vigilante Survived Night 5 Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2 Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Town Dog Killed Night 3 However, since that case, Onegu has indeed not posted much and so I'll probably add him to my Palmar/Stutters/Sn0 lynchables for now. What I do actually want to point out though is: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote: Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours. @pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes. Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least. This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe. Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him. Will make deeper analysis when I'm back. ##Vote: Onegu Nice scum/town slip. Look at this syllo. Why would Holyflare do this? So crazy. | ||
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On October 20 2013 22:04 syllogism wrote: Do what? Check Onegu's meta? Well look at what he is doing with it: nothing. He looks it up, concludes that ET is wrong and then decides Onegu is still a good lynch. Why even bother checking if that is going to be your conclusion either way? Yeah but if ET is your scumbuddy would you do it like this? Trash the case but still vote with him? Why destroy the case? Feels like he disagreed with the case but also found Onegu scummy/ worth pressuring. There is no further interaction with ET. Not a single remark that ET is scummy for being wrong. Wouldnt you do that if you knew ET was scum with you? Covering your bases. | ||
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Well they can fight it out themselves. | ||
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On October 21 2013 01:27 StorrZerg wrote: Why does no one want to take credit for shooting a mafia? There is no reason to claim. I am thinking somebody might have had a dual gun. Like you need to target 2 of the same alignements for it to go off. I just cant believe there were so many vigis. And then there was a scum vigi. If this is true there is no SK and we can trow a party next night with only one kill. It's 14 vs 3 atm with a confirmed town and a lot of townreads. Party on! | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:52 StorrZerg wrote: What about someone who kills anyone that visits them at night 2 mafia with .5 kp use it on 1 person, and both end up dieing That is scary smart. | ||
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imo lynch BH. Just lynch him unless he reads the thread. And I am not interested in knowing his role. I am interested in his ideas. | ||
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I don't understand why Palmar was still counted. He was dead. | ||
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On October 21 2013 03:31 Holyflare wrote: People don't die they just get "stunned" so technically he's only in hopsital and therefore still part of the house? I think at least. Hmm, OP states they are in the graveyard though. But ok flavor and shit I guess. Maybe hosts should change graveyard to infirmary or something. | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:20 Holyflare wrote: because this whole hufflepuff thing was thrown out Yet there are 5 votes on Blazinghand (yes i know we are voting for him aswell -- i wanna hear from Koshi about the vote) for what reason? The only thing on D1 that was brought up "in favor" of Cephiro was that "this lynch is happeneing too easy". Look what happened.. -rayn | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:42 Sn0_Man wrote: Town really has no reason to need to know what happened last night as far as I can tell. I almost claimed like 22 hours ago but it didn't seem worth it. What? If you know what happened (i.e. scum shot XYZ - someone else shot ABC) why not tell it? Is there any harm if you can give the info without outing people's roles? Example: Mafioso died, mafia sure did not kill them. If you can tell how he died how does this help mafia more than it does help town? -rayn | ||
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He had EchelonTee as town, a guy who was scummy as hell. Because of "good logic and blabla whatever". Bullshit. He had Pandain as town. On D1 end and N1 Pandain made zero sense and Ceephiro should have seen him scummy having just played scum with him. Lonemeow is a guy who get no mention is his reads. This looks good? Then he says, on N1 "Kill rayn, Storr, Matt." Not sure about Matt but Storr and me are town. His reads are full of crap. | ||
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On October 21 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe cephiro should be considered because he didn't follow up on his promises but being wrong does not make him scum rayn. Being wrong is okay. Giving a townread on people who you shoult think are scummy is not, and vice versa. Can anyone say they did think ET was town? Anyone? Someone asked about yamato. I have no idea what he is because i have not been here much after the first half of D1 and do not remember any of his posts after that. I thought he was town at the start of the game. Not a good lynch for today. -rayn | ||
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On October 21 2013 06:11 Hopeless1der wrote: I want ceph or stutters up for lynch today. Both have made promises of activity that remain unfulfilled. true. Do you like Onegu? | ||
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Ravenclaw: Onegu Syllo LastArgument Tunkeg Supersoft Yamato Slytherin: Mocsta EchelonTee Blazinghand I-Be-Pro Sn0_man Skanjab1s Hufflepuff: StorrZerg Palmar Mattchew HolyFlare Hopeless Grack Gryffindor: Pandain justanothertownie raynpelikonoshi Cephiro VayneAuthority Stutters695 The 5 bolded ones are up for lynching today right? Ugh, so difficult to pick out. Hosts confirmed that the scums are distributed randomly, so we do not know about a 2/2/1/1 distribution. I just realized that... Nothing to see here then D: I'll post anyway because I can. | ||
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On October 21 2013 06:43 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think the bolded are accurate Koshi. Who wants to lynch Onegu? Also Syllo wants to lynch Holy it seems. Ohyeah, I bolded those 2 because if there is only 1 scum in Hufflepuff there might be 2 in Ravenclaw. Hmm. But random is random D: | ||
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Mattchew & Cephiro could easily be scum. Holyflare is scum with who? He is trying to figure out the game and his interactions with Pandain early on were not scummy in my eyes, they looked good. | ||
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On October 21 2013 06:57 StorrZerg wrote: i think matt is town, does that have any weight? i think he is the most town in my group Yeah but I don't see it. Page 1 of Mattchew filter is nothingness, somewhere he has a scumread on somebody because that person typed "lol" at the end if his sentence and that made him scummy because he was insecure because Mattchew texted girls like that when he is insecure or something. Page 2/3 there is still pretty much nothing that makes him town, he defends himself a bit but that's it. Then there is Pandain voting for him because Pandain has "reasons" and then there him quoting EchelonTee on the Onegu case saying that ET is wrong. Page 4 has the excelcopy of his reads: Pandain: Green Lonemeow: Nothing EchelonTee: That's quite strange if you look at Stutters you see that Mattchew has him for town because 2 lines of text in which he defends Palmar. Like why the fuck is that green? And Mattchew had Stutters green as soon as that happened, why wouldn't it be 2 scummers defending each other? Mattchew had Palmar as SCUM for the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. He was one of the 3 pioneers of the Palmar wagon. Then there was the whole Mattchew wagon catching steam for 4 whole minutes. 4 minutes. Because Cephiro decided that Mattchew wasn't his preferred lynch even though he was whining and bitching that his reads in his 1 post were so valuable... But then Cephiro decided that when it seemed that Mattchew wagon was going to surpass the Palmar wagon to vote for Palmar who was NOT a scumread for Cephiro.... Yeah, I don't like Mattchew at all. | ||
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On October 21 2013 06:58 StorrZerg wrote: I mean ify ou think Matt is scum with Cephiro, why not Cephiro first since he isn't holding up his end of the deal also i still think BH is a fine lynch unless he does something Sure. But we were talking why not Holyflare. First Cephiro is quite ok, I do wonder what he meant with "I just grew stronger". We will read about that when he come back telling us how he didn't read the thread because he has a life and shit. | ||
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I said it before the night. Mattchew Cephiro Mocsta Probably nothing but I keep it in the back of my head. | ||
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On October 21 2013 07:46 Mattchew wrote: this one of the worst posts i've read in a long time I take that as a compliment. | ||
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On October 21 2013 08:44 Mocsta wrote: no I won't rayn I know what ceph meant. 6 of us know. but we are not allowed to talk about it. I don't know what the consequences are though. sorry. Ok cool. I think Mattchew and Storrzerg are both scum. And with that I go to bed. gn. | ||
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Sad. Not posting at all is kinda strange for yamato. Mostly he posts at least a couple times totally disinterested. And it's only day 2. BH could be left alive for today, but I think he will flip red over yamato. Cephiro is an odd one. I agree with Mocsta that it doesnt make much sense. I am going to lynch him out of the 3 unless he fully roleclaims. +wincon. Guess we can lose 10 more townies before this goes into lylo.. So not too worried. | ||
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On October 21 2013 16:44 Koshi wrote: Matt is not town........ For filter... | ||
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On October 21 2013 16:58 Koshi wrote: I mean confirmed town or anything near that. ##unvote ##vote: Cephiro Again he can explain himself. Kinda good targets to pick if he is town and he needs them to die to become powerful. LA, Toad, Pandain would die quite fast if town. Mocsta... Dunno tbh. Why not pick Syllo or maybe even supersoft? Syllo was confirmed town and most likely to die? Why reveal so much when you are 3P? As mafia you could reveal a lot because mafia wont kill you and if your ploy works town wont lynch you. But as 3P you do not want to run the risk to be shot by mafia because you are too powerful? Because let's say only 1 days in the first night and out of the remaining 3 there is a scum hiding, now scum knows Cephiro is getting more powerful with each member they kill, why would mafia not simply kill Cephiro?? Doesn't make too much sense for Cephiro to be 3P with a solo wincon tbh. He is town or scum. Again for filter... Damn, for some reason it remembered my main account at work. soz. | ||
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On October 21 2013 17:04 syllogism wrote: Re-reading mattchew and he seems to look quite terrible. Why did the QT conclude that he is town? He wasn't suspicious of any of the flipped mafia. Also see e.g. While Yamato hasn't flipped yet, I would also like to note that he has some suspicions interactions with Mattchew and Yamato's final post before apparently giving up on the game was to very lazily attack Mattchew http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20017831 But everybody had yamato pinned down as town for D1. Completely disappearing is not his scummeta or am I mistaken? | ||
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You not afraid Cephiro will kill you and fulfill some extra wincon after n2? It kinda is the easiest wincon ever though. Pick 2 strong townies that will die and shoot 2 guys yourself = win. | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:30 Chairman Ray wrote: I just got unbanned, so I can replace in. Just as a warning, I can only spare like an hour a day for mafia, so if there's someone else that can be a lot more active, they're probably a better choice. oh boy... | ||
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I am respecting Storr his claim. I am maybe a bit fast in saying both StorrZerg and Mattchew are scum. But Mattchew is scum for sure. I just have insane problems with Storr thinking Mattchew is town. There are also some other things I don't like about Storr but this case is about Mattchew. Let's take a look at Mattchew his day 2: On October 20 2013 06:35 Mattchew wrote: syllo any thoughts on hopeless On October 20 2013 07:05 Mattchew wrote: syllo can we lynch hopeless instead? This isn't a case on Hopeless, this is testing the waters. Here is another try, trying to vote Hopeless through marv his dead body: On October 20 2013 11:54 Mattchew wrote: lets not forget the dead aka the confirmed Now we have to consider that Mattchew knew about the Housecheck through his "masonbuddy" before the thread knew and that Mattchew decided to look in his own House and found Hopeless most likely scum. I can respect that. The reasons why are far to find, there isn't ANYTHING about hopeless in Mattchew his excellreads from Night 1. But he replied somewhere that his "excellreads" were about finding town and not scum... But syllo doesn't bite and then Hopeless posts this: On October 20 2013 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote: storr town for asking random questions, and pandain's "scumread" on him matt town for showing storr why he's likely confirmed town. also pandain's scumread holyflare town for, you know, actually hunting scum and generally making sense. grack...doesnt seem like scum? his playful attitude hasnt changed since daypost. On October 20 2013 12:32 Hopeless1der wrote: ...so much for loyalty ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare By process of elimination In which he does the same thing that Mattchew should have done when he knew about the Housecheck. Go over the housemembers and post his reads. PoE gave Hopeless1der Holyflare as scum. This is how Mattchew reacts: On October 20 2013 12:34 Mattchew wrote: LOL ##vote Hopeless1der Mattchew finally found a reason to start a wagon on his fake scumread. Sadly enough Mattchew doesn't understand what Hopeless did was a normal thoughtprocess for a townie with the information about a Housecheck because Mattchew isn't town and didn't have this thoughtprocess. You want more proof? Look at his reads from night 1: Grack, Storr were both very green for the SAME reasons hopeless says they are green. On top of that Hopeless says that Mattchew is town for x reason. What is so "LOL" about this that Mattchew instantly votes hopeless? They have the same thoughtprocess and Holyflare was looking scummy as well for Mattchew. There is litterally nothing "LOL" about those reads because they are the same as those from Mattchew. Let's vote the scummiest person in this thread please ##unvote ##vote: Mattchew | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote: I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though. Thoughts about my case on your Housemate? | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote: Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you. Damn, new lovers = more chance on a 3p role D: | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either: 1) I am no threat to them. 2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them. 3) Have planned something for me later. Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town. Why? btw, are you a thread to scum? Or is that a secret? | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:26 Mattchew wrote: I also had a case on hopeless, but refrained from posting and then his role has got me completely confused Yeah, then you should have posted that instead asking syllo 3 times to make it, or using marv his outdated case. That's the lamest defense ever. I had it a case but decided to not post it, so your case is nullified... | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:27 Grackaroni wrote: There was a lot going through the QT after we got a house check and I don't remember Mattchew's vote being out of line with his thought process. I'll say what I said in QT it seems townie of Mattchew to keep wanting to lynch into Hufflepuff when the thread seemed to think he was the most suspicious Hufflepuff. Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town. Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread? Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT. | ||
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On October 21 2013 21:40 Grackaroni wrote: Idk. Maybe he wanted to see if Syllo agreed with his read. It was probably based mostly on POE. WHY DO I KEEP GETTING STUCK IN THESE ARGUMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE IM UNSURE OF! If you want to see if somebody agrees with your read you say give him something to work with. Also, I hoped discussing the case with you would help us both figuring out Mattchew further. But I'll let you be. Seems like you are not interested in adding your own view on Mattchew. oki. | ||
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One has done something townie, three others have done nothing scummy.. Okay Koshi, i believe our vote is in the right place. We can deal with Cephiro later. -rayn | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote: Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.) Why are you not calling me out for it? I don't remember asking anything from you. So it was either Koshi or you are lying. I don't really care at all because you are scum and should be lynched. You have done no scumhunting at all. Now you want to lynch intosome people because of a cop check that might or might not be true. -rayn | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote: Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.) Why are you not calling me out for it? It was me and I am not begging you to answer. Answer or not. It's not going to change the world. It's obvious you want to keep some secrets. So I am not asking twice. You going to tell me that is scummy? | ||
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On October 21 2013 22:19 Cephiro wrote: Good answer. Certainly not. I am looking forward to talking with you more in the QT if possible. Rayn is too much in a tunnel-mode to get a proper read on. What QT? Our House? I am there. | ||
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See Koshi's last posts and you'll find out why is this so funny. I'll keep you updated for more funniness when Cephiro answers me what are his "good reasons" to ask stuff that's just been said in thread. -rayn | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:20 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm voting ceph. He's done nothing to indicate that he wishes to win with town. His unwillingness to roleclaim isn't OK by me. For visibility: ##Vote: Cephiro Can you confirm that you have an idea about the nightactions without Cephiro being involved? Also, read on Mattchew please. And comments on my case? | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1. My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better. PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something. Hmm, can you be a bit more specific? My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow. Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing. 2NK 2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP Toad dieing due to 0.5KP LoneMeow = ??? This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck. | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:39 Cephiro wrote: Matt is really scummy. First, he was pretty useless during day 1. There was no scumhunting. Second, his N1 reads are townreads instead of scumreads. (Town on Pandain, nothing on ET, nothing on LM...) During this day there was a case on hopeless by rayko without any reasoning except that there is 1 scum in hufflepuff. Even now matt has provided no reasoning for being suspicious of hopeless, except that it was a case "centered around him asking a lot of questions but not furthering his thought process / reads through them". And lastly, after this he claimed that the people he wants to lynch are in a guy who has done townie things and 3 nullreads. (Onegu, JAT, VA, Yam/CR) It doesn't make any sense at all. He says he want to lynch into those 4 guys, but thinks one is townie, one is afk but has thread snetiment, and 2 he hasn't read yet. In short: Mattchew isn't doing anything. *Candy given* Why are you using my case as your own Cephiro? You ask me about Mattchew in our QT and now you use my case as your own? Are you fucking kidding me? WHY THE FUCK? You are even mistaken and I made a case on Mattchew not Hopeless... | ||
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On October 21 2013 23:40 justanothertownie wrote: Toad died because ET died Koshi. Yes but where is the 2 times 0.5KP from Pandain and ET? There should be 3 scumkills. Unless they didn't use their extra 0.5KP but that does not make sense. | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:14 StorrZerg wrote: w/e cephiro stop with the cloak and dagger You seem to somehow know Matt is town. If you are town scum already know you are town. Tell us in detail why Matt is town so we can trust you. Your cryptic statements are not enough. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:21 Mattchew wrote: Cephiro is a stupid lynch imo his play is too weird for scum and way too weird for an antitown 3rd party Explain to me how it makes sense that a townie basically copy/pastes my case on you for himself? | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote: Matt and i had a priv QT we removed all doubt from each other in that qt. You know what would be protown? REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD. Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck? How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all. Now I know again why I think both of you are scum. | ||
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Please tell me why Mattchew and StorrZerg refuse to tell this thread why they have townreads on each other. Nobody in this thread has townreads on either one of them. However, some do respect the copclaim. Explain to me why they can clear themselves to each other in their private Mason but look like scummy fucks in this thread. I know I asked this before but I am going crazy. ___ And then there is Cephiro stealing my case, JAT confirming this and nobody else gives 2 fucks. | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:46 StorrZerg wrote: what secret? We talked we deliberated.... Matt thinks im town because i've explained my entire thought process of the game to him. among other things. You can call me awful town for not being able to communicate effectively with you idc, but please for the love of town, can you focus your attention and time onto someone else I don't know what your fishing for. Did you communicate this thoughtprocess in this thread so that we could evaluate it? Did Mattchew communicate his thoughtprocess in this thread so that we could evaluate it? And can you tell me more about this thoughtprocess. Can you give me reads? Because you 2 have no reads at all. What was the "thoughtprocess" about? ANYTHING? | ||
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On October 22 2013 00:49 Mattchew wrote: I could have killed a known pretty powerful blue role when almost no other roles were known You are killing me. How? Because you knew 2 hours in N1 that he was the housecop? How would you prevent the rest of your QT to spill that in the thread? It would be the same effect, 1 scum in Hufflepuff. If only you knew, how would you prevent Storr from telling the thread you knew in the quiet period? Also, were you masoned from the start of N1? or did Storr claim in the QT? I missed that. | ||
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Storr & Matt, rephrase your QT. Now. I don't believe your bullshit with no proof given. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote: Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's. That being said i think HF is town. -rayn | ||
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SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:20 StorrZerg wrote: Because of possible Miller Because of possible Framer And because everyone in hufflepuff is active... So why the fuck did you guys start talking about this in the first place? What's the point of the check if you think it's tampered with? Why the fuck are people talking about irrelevant stuff? Lynch the whole Hufflepuff i say. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote: Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff. It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:19 Chairman Ray wrote: Ye ur right. I'll put some time before the deadline and try to make some contributions. I don't know if no lynch is possible. Don't forget about the vote thread. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!) CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._. not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._. how scummy was yamato before he replaced out? Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote: Well, I'm treating hopeless coming thru as a red check on holyflare more or less, so I'm willing to wait on that lynch till tomorrow koshi. Unless I am reading wrong he already used his copcheck on Toad. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote: ? He is gonna make syllo invincible for tomorrow. I'm calling that a green check on him. If it happens. How do we know he is invincible? | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:30 Blazinghand wrote: syllo could post and confirmed he has received the potion Ohyeah. Smart. Damnit. How can I not find a target to lynch. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:34 Blazinghand wrote: Looks like yamato mostly bsed for a couple days then went awol. I'd be okay lynching him but mostly this is because he is not me. Why does one of HF/hopeless1 have to be scum? Are they the final hufflepuffs? Everybody loves StorrZerg and Mattchew. I made a case on Mattchew and I think he is the scummiest guy in the thread but w.e | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:34 Cephiro wrote: Wait... if there should be a line in the daypost about the potion, why can I find none of this claimed cop-check potion?? So that claim is absolutely bullshit is it not, or am I missing something again? @Sn0: I'm trying to figure out things still, I'll tell you if I have something that you may find useful. For now there are only some things in my role which make me even more suspicious. Nha, syllo should get the message that he received the potion. Just like Toad received a message that he got a potion. But Toad died, so he couldn't tell us about the message. | ||
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On October 22 2013 03:43 Blazinghand wrote: So the case for lynching Cephiro is based on the fact that his role sounds scary and he could potentially be 3p? And Cephiro decided to make 1 post for 47 hours in Day 1. Then started crying because 1 post should be more than sufficient to play mafia. Eventually posted his notes and we moved off him for contributing. Cephiro thanked us and told us he would contribute on day 2. 40 hours into day 2 Cephiro still didn't participate. People got angry. | ||
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##Unvote: ##Vote: Stutters Cephiro is likely town from the way he did his "play" of making Koshi's case in thread. Reminds me of Aperture a lot, plus, he didn't overplay it (i.e. did not waste time or anything). -rayn | ||
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You claimed to be masoned with LA? That does make you town how? You have not done anything at all. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:23 Stutters695 wrote: It doesn't. I even said that when explaining what was going on between him and I. I've laid out why I think Ceph isn't town and stand by that. And given our considerable lead, if he is 3p (other than survivor, in which case he'd be playing like he was town) any KP is going towards town. So did you or did you not read the house QT? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote: Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi. Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him. I dunno. I don't think Holyflare is scum. Apparently Koshi thinks so. We have not discussed our townreads a lot. We are not pushing CR lynch away. Stutters is a better target imo. [i]-rayn[/y] | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote: Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi. Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him. Oh. I was wrong. I wrote Holyflare but meant Hopeless1der back there. D: I like Holyflare. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:06 syllogism wrote: Can I get a vig on Chairman Yang, thanks. Again, it doesn't matter if he is town or mafia but it has to happen. yup. Need to see dem votes. | ||
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We just need CR to flip. As soon as possible. I hope we don't have to waste a full day on that. | ||
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I am feeling Holyflare to be town now. He needs to cast his extra vote next cycle though. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:43 Chairman Ray wrote: Is there any information on what the secret vote is? Or do we have no idea who has that ability and how exactly is works? It's secret. | ||
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Vayne: "yamato played to his scum meta on D1 and then he stopped playing because half of his team got killed." yamato did play to his town meta on D1 and guess who else stopped playing after N1? -rayn | ||
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(1) I don't think yamato would have confidency to attack me first thing in the game as scum. (2) I don't think yamato was overly trying to look townie and/or was scared of something (like he usually does as scum). (3) Yamato has been fairly "useless" in other games aswell as town. That's not alignment indicative for him. (1) and (2) are. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:48 Grackaroni wrote: I don't understand you were ok lynching him prior to the ninja vote and now you do not want to lynch him? That was pure policy until CR started contributing and i think he will contribute later on aswell. I am nowhere near 100% sure yamato is town, but i am over 50% confident in my early read on him. Why are people talking about the silent vote? It's not alignment indicative for CR. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:56 Mocsta wrote: Regarding Skanjab and the last-second vote-swap. On one hand, This is his last contribution before the lynch; and suggests no premeditation towards Stutters. On the other hand, scum KP at 3 members is already 1KP for this cycle. Its a very risky move to hammer a townie (regardless of secret vote) for the benefit of 1 town lynch. I don't think the risk is worth the reward. As scum, I have hammered a townie last-second before, but made sure I had a story backed up over the past 3-4hrs to why. i.e. the concept was premeditated and I could back it up. Skanjab doesn't have this. As we know with claims: typically the awkwardly revealed claims are usually from town, and the big spiels that are perfectly crafted are usually fake-claims. Lastly, I have had a townread on Skanjab since his Yamato case, Day1. This has nothing to do with that he made a case on Yamato. It had to do with his approach. I asked him int he QT his thoughts on Yamato. He made a semi-case of points that suggested a scum mindset. I said I agreed. When Skanjab decided to unveil his case in the thread; he actually fleshed it out significantly more than the QT. That effort is something I *FIRMLY* associate with town. i.e. he had the confidence that his read was right due to QT talk, and then put more effort into the case. I find it hard-pressed to believe scum would have a mindset capable to do this. Skanjab is town. Wait what? Assuming you are town and Skan is scum; If i was in Skan's position and someone told me my case on a townie had merit i would totally expand it and post it in thread. Did Skan push the lynch on D1? Did he push it on D2? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote: (1)Clearly, Yamato attacked Koshi via clear discredit attempt. (2) So at least you can admit he was not overly trying to look townie. Where is this town credit coming from then? Did he really try to progress the game? His attitude between Champions game/this one are MILES apart. His attitude between Noir/this game are MILES apart. Do you disagree? Probably because the Champions game. duh.. Do i look like i put the same effort into this game i put into the Champions game? Is that alignment indicative? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote: What is your current read in vayne? And onegu was town cos et went after him, right? A couple of hours ago: " I do not really see how you are playing. You totally stopped in posting here and your posts in thread are weak and you do not sound confident in your reads at all. It's not Vayne'ish to ask "who should i vote for". " Undecided. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 10:16 Mocsta wrote: Yeah but me and a couple others also wanted confirmation to whether koshi made that case. The difference with yam is that he followed through with a discredit. Why would town need to say that? How does it help promote a positive sentiment? Further he doesn't even state why it's scummy enough to warrant a discrrdit. That's what yamato does.:p To me that looks more townie than scummy. -rayn | ||
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D1 lynch was absolutely horrible, and i don't even care to look at it because it was probably town-driven as i am pretty sure Cephiro is town. Who was the third wagon? I dunno, i can read JAT tomorrow if i have time. Vayne will reveal his true colors at some point. I can reread HF too, but atm from what i remember he is town. -rayn | ||
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Although this is weird: (2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them. Why was this a bad move? Do you think it's the absolute trith CR is scum? In case he is not, why was it a mistake to lynch Stutters over him? -rayn | ||
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You are seriously saying Skan saved CR and outed himself in the process when it's kinda guaranteed that a player as CR's caliber (no offense) will get lynched tomorrow if he is scum? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:55 Grackaroni wrote: I did. Because you weren't specifically addressing Yamato but kept pushing forward other lynch options. I even asked you guys why you didn't want to lynch Yamato and nobody answered. That's bullshit. I answered you as soon as you asked me. And your question was "why are you trying to dvert the lynch from yamato". To be specific: On October 22 2013 04:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I dunno. I don't think Holyflare is scum. Apparently Koshi thinks so. We have not discussed our townreads a lot. We are not pushing CR lynch away. Stutters is a better target imo. -rayn[/y] Same bullshit. [i]-rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:58 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what scum abilities each player has. Scum is in a shit position. Town is confirming itself just through roles and pretty soon other people will be ruled out from posts. scum can't afford losing anyone else at this point. Did you even read my post? Do you think it's better for Skan to look better in comparsion to out himself by saving CR, who if scum, will get lynched tomorrow 100%? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote: sorry i mean hufflepuff, wishful thinking I was in a useful house So how do you know JAT's power? He's also a Gryffindor... -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote: I'm not keeping a track? I just know them off the top of my head. So noone can be lying? Everything is confirmed? That's why the extra vote must be in those 6 people right? -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:17 Holyflare wrote: No, but I'm in the game trying to work things out from the top of my head. Obviously people can be lying. What's the point of your argument? It's like me saying "these three people are scum and we must lynch them" knowing that i can't prove that and that my reasoning is flimsy in the first place.. -rayn | ||
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We do not have a secret vote and i highly doubt Cephiro has one. And I doubt it's Vayne/Onegu as I think they would have posted between sometime around the lynch and now. This is fucking idiotic because at least Vayne has been active in house QT between lynch and now. -rayn | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:30 Grackaroni wrote: well I don't know that. can you check if he just lied about not having power? Because that would be hilarious. No claim about powers anywhere. Though his reads have been kinda off this game compared to usual. -rayn | ||
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Should I paraphrase everything he said in QT? I think that is handy. | ||
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Don't know for sure though. But Vayne gave Pandain 100% townread after Pandain first post. I remember thinking that was superstrange and I made a case on Vayne. But people didn't believe me D:. After the Pandain flip I should have revisited that. But sure. Vayne will flip. yay! | ||
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Grack looks really bad if VA flips town. VA has been on Grack ass since end D1. Mattchew looks so scummy to me. Insane. Hopeless looks a bit scummy to me. But he has that potion thingie. Storrzerg looks scummy to me. But he has Housechecks that need to add up. Holyflare looks town to me. | ||
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Storrzerg is scum Scum framer targetted scum GF But yeah, most likely 1 scum I guess. Maybe also Greencheck SK? Nobody knows. | ||
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Koshi thinks scum lies within Matt, Storr, Vayne, Hopeless, CR with far outsiders JAT/Onegu/Cephiro | ||
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And now it seems Grack (and I guess that means HufflePuff, unless the 600 posts in the QT are about birds and bees) has scumreads on everybody outside his house except for JAT, BH and Snowman. Impressive House. Impressive. | ||
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On October 23 2013 03:07 Grackaroni wrote: Don't forget the syllogism! I had him nailed as town ever since early night 1. I didn't say I had scum reads on all of those people, I said that was the list of people I think the scum are in. I still need to narrow it down from there. CR/Vayne should be dead so I should have pretty good odds. I didn't forget him obviously, it made your confirmed town list look very "impressive". Because look at your filter, you have put VA down as town for the entire game. So you must be very certain about BH, JAT and Snowman. | ||
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On October 23 2013 03:16 Grackaroni wrote: I said one thing about VA day1 and then toyed around with the hosts modkilling instead of replacing him. I had no problem with you trolling the entire game till you decided to post your "reads". I thought you were trolling as town just as you did D1 in Thug. And I didn't care you continued to do so after this N1. But town Grack would not post those reads without further explanation, those reads are an extension of your trolling. We had you as null but you just showed color. There is a time to troll and a time to be serious as town. As scum it's just trolling trough the entire game with some random tryhard posts like in Golden Sun. Going to fakeclaim vet any time soon Grack? Sorry. I just reread Thug Mafia and I suggest everybody does that and compares that with this game. Grack is scum. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:01 Sn0_Man wrote: PS Holyflare scum he knew I targetted syllo Explain a bit better please. I don't get it. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:24 Hopeless1der wrote: when that target was modconfirmed town? One Jailer or busdriver and syllo wakes up fresh as a daisy. But all action on Syllo? Toad or Last Argument is way more likely. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Syllo is confirmed town, I presumed he was a watcher and so wanted to confirm who the fuck was visiting a confirmed town, ie. saving, doing whatever. If sn0 says "I know what happened" at the start of day 2 after all this shit then I presume he knows how the 2 0.5's died. Therefore, they targeted syllo. How is that hard to understand? Do people's brains not work under the assumption of logic? Dude if you think he is a watcher that kills visitors, then how did syllo survive? Another medic? You just said you don't believe in 2 medics. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:38 Sn0_Man wrote: Man we'd be absolutely demolishing this game if BH healed marv. HAUMPH. BH is scum. | ||
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1 )If Holyflare casts his vote tomorrow we know that there is a town +1 vote. We know there is a scum + 1 vote. 2) Mocsta claimed to be town Pandain? I don't get that yet though. Roles don't look alike -_- 3) Scum/Town lovers 4) BH scum doc / snow town doc 5) Housecop town / scum normal cop 6) Town vigi / scum vigi with 0.5kp in day and 0.5kp in night. Holyflare is town. We are looking for the summer that can do that +1 vote. | ||
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Yeah I said somewhere before it could be just CR casting that vote. Let's pray he dies tonight. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:51 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I'll be here You have been given candy. Make sure you paraphrase what it says as soon as possible ;D | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:52 Sn0_Man wrote: Actually scum doc makes a lot of sense atm considering the amount of KP flying around. Although claiming to have RNG'd it and thrown it at me may be risky if there were trackers or w/e. Yeah I wonder why the fuck scum medic didn't save one of the three scummers that died. If he can't save himself he must have used it on one of the remaining 2. That is strange. | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:53 Grackaroni wrote: If you shot me... Why would we ask you to paraphrase a bullet? | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:58 Grackaroni wrote: what would you actually want me to paraphrase though. The candy... | ||
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On October 23 2013 04:59 Grackaroni wrote: lol I literally said in QT that there was going to be that guy, probably Koshi, that demands for me to post logs. THE CAAANDDDDYYYYY | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:03 Grackaroni wrote: THERE WAS NO CANDY! Sure there was. You got 0 messages? No lies now Grackie. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:06 Hopeless1der wrote: and where did Vayne get this wealth of knowledge from? They played scum together in Golden Sun. This is what VA said paraphrased: The skanjab case from Grack makes my scumread on Grack even stronger, in our QT in Golden Sun he loved to make big random cases on weaker players using their filter to make them look bad with coincidental evidence. Look at Grack filter from Thug Life Mafia where he died day 2. Compare it with this one. I linked to it during last night. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote: I do not recieve hit notifications only notification that my KP was used. I'm guessing yes since otherwise why nobody dead lol. I agree that is most likely. But Grack isn't on that page for some strange reason. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:23 Grackaroni wrote: Fuck it. I'm dayvig. I have a day shot and can shoot one person voting for me. It only goes off if my target is scum. Vote me right now or you are lynched. That's quite epic. I am Ron Weasley. I have 3 retarded candies. You really want to test me? | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:23 Grackaroni wrote: Fuck it. I'm dayvig. I have a day shot and can shoot one person voting for me. It only goes off if my target is scum. Vote me right now or you are lynched. Does the person you shoot get a notification? -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:26 Grackaroni wrote: no balls... ##Vote: Grackaroni Go. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:29 Grackaroni wrote: VT. I said it earlier Nope that is a lie. Please try again. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:37 Grackaroni wrote: lol like really. I'm mafia for being on the wrong page and thinking storr could have been shot. Your explanation is that Sn0 Man Healed BH. But there can't be 2 docs. The logic in this one. Hmm. You are scum for many reasons. But you are not a VT for a reason I can "prove". Now are you scum or blue? | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:40 Hopeless1der wrote: I'll run with lynch all liars. I hereby request proof from raynpelikonoshi that Grackaroni is not a VT. So you know he is a VT how? | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:53 StorrZerg wrote: figured they would have the biggest chance of getting hit with crap so went with the house with least If RC came up 0 scum, then RC would be able to trust each other in a priv QT So dead players don' count anymore? | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:57 StorrZerg wrote: There is 1 alive scum in RC So you got back that there are 2 scums? | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:04 Hopeless1der wrote: Who'd you candy yesterday? or is that a secret? Ourselves. We learned LoneMeow did something N1. (yes we were disappointed as well) | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:59 StorrZerg wrote: So i had convo with mod about my power. Turns out dead are not suppose to count, but palmar was counted in my first house check. Dead are not counted in house check, but if people "infiltrate" they would show up under the check (this is my assumption) I would assume this would be a power to eves drop on a QT so my check showed 1 mafia 2 town Why wouldn't hosts fix this... Slackers not reading the thread? But I do not believe you would lie about contact with the hosts so arffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. | ||
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We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves). There are three possibilities: 1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone] 2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it] 3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:09 StorrZerg wrote: you said 3 candies i thought? whats the last? It's the (3). It's random. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote: There are 2 possibilities. Either I am Miller or you are lying. If you are lying and I flip VT do you agree to be policy lynched regardless of alignment for bad play? I don't think you are a miller. If you got a vanilla PM i am okay with lynching you (because i do not believe you). If you flip town vanilla you can lynch us the next day. Deal? -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:12 Sn0_Man wrote: So 1 or 2 are random if the target isn't vanilla, but its 3 if the target is vanilla. yes | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:15 Grackaroni wrote: Well I can't. But deal. If you are lying though in order to get me lynched and you are town I will push to policy lynch you in every game I play with you. You literally dont have a case on me. wtf are you talking about. You claim to be vanilla. I claim you can't be vanilla because of my role. your defence is so bullshit wtf man? you so scum. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:19 Grackaroni wrote: I am vanilla. I'm just saying that if you are lying as town to push your shitty/non-existant case than I will not be pleased. Why the fuck are you not saying i am 100% lying if you are vanilöla, based on my claim? -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote: i don't even know what's going on any more + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SC6iJmr.jpg) | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote: i don't even know what's going on any more Grack claimed scum. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: You have no idea how I scumhunt. Since when is not claiming a scumtell? That is bullshit Holy and you know it. I think everybody should fully claim. atm there are 2 doctor claims out there anyway. If your role is really good we can have docs protect you. If your role needs secrecy then, well I don't even know why a role would need secrecy at this point, we are looking for a scum RB and a scum +1 vote. Can you tell us the reason why you want to keep your role secret? | ||
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what was the intention of this? If there is one scum in Gryffindor why is it not Pandain who has flipped scum? -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:42 Mattchew wrote: Storr is mason, im house cop, i told him i would check raven claw and the number of paragraphs i wrote would be the number of scum... I forgot about that plan What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result Ps im susan bones and storr is cedric diggerary doo THIS! FUCKING THIS½! WHY IS THERE ANOTHER SCUM THAN PANDAIN! bullshitbullshitbullshit!!!!!!! who is lying? -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:06 Holyflare wrote: the mods changed it so that it only reflects alive people so pandain doesn't count fuck you the check is from N2. Liar. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:04 justanothertownie wrote: Can you tell me the benefit in claiming? I don't see it. If I was scum I would just claim VT or any given fakeclaim. You won't find out who is the RB or the +1 if I claim. Not that easy for scum to claim a blue role after 2 cycles I think. Scum could all claim VT but then we can trust the current blue roles more. What is the downside of not mass claiming? Remember that everybody will need to do it. In the past a lot of towns massclaimed to flush out scum. | ||
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BH obviously. But snowman saved him. The problem is the BH claiming RB, if scum has RB, why not kill syllo and make Hopeless look bad because the potion got lost again? | ||
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What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum LIAR!!!!! | ||
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BH claimed doc and there was no CC. Which townie was going to RB their doc? | ||
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Pandain has flipped scum. Matt is house cop. There is STILL ONE SCUM IN OUR QT! ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:14 raynpelikonoshi wrote: There is one scum in our house QT. Pandain has flipped scum. Matt is house cop. There is STILL ONE SCUM IN OUR QT! ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -rayn N1 hosts made a mistake and counted Palmar. So it was 5 town and 1 scum. I don't fully understand when the mistake was explained to them but N2 they checked gryff and got back 2 town and 1 scum. What's the problem? | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:15 Holyflare wrote: how have you not got it, if they were lying that could quite clearly make it up and say 2 mafia to follow their day 1 but obviously mods have changed it so it only shows alive people??? They have bullshitted all game. This is fucking bullshit. | ||
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I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result He is saying he did check us on N1.... -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote: He is saying he did check us on N1.... -rayn No he says that he told Storr in their mason that he would check Ravenclaw N2. But he lied and he checked Gryff. Townies and their lying. Tssss! | ||
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It's not Cephiro so: ##Unvote: ##Vote: JAT | ||
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NOW LYNCH JAT. -rayn | ||
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.....[/end rant] Do whatever you want. I am totally done with this shit. Fuck that Palmar D1 lynch. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:23 Holyflare wrote: HOW CAN YOU CLAIM GRACK IS LYING ABOUT VT BUT THEN SWITCH TO JAT, HUFFLEPUFF ALSO HAD A SCUM REMEMBER?!?!!??! This literally makes no sense, wtf is wrong with you. yeah, our real role is this We have candybag There are 3 different candies and we don't know which one we will get. This is what they do: 1) They change somebody in a canary bird (harmless) but you get message. 2) They RB you next night unless you pay 0.5 HP 3) They reveal that X player did a night action. (but not what night action) | ||
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This isn't on rayn. | ||
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Well, the joke was only up for 2 hours. It didn't change anything. Dnu why you are upset. I am quite happy about how it went. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:45 Sn0_Man wrote: Just because his image was amusing doesn't mean him screaming at the thread for 3 pages baselessly was reasonable. And grack you had 3 different people telling different stories about your weird check/mason/whatever bullshit. All you guys managed to do was fuck with the thread. Try helping scum a bit less next time. It was my image D: | ||
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The reason I did this btw Grack are: 1) You haven't been pushing any reads. You are really passive this game. I don't know if you agree with that yourself, but you are lacking thought behind all your reads. Those reads on N2 were coming from nowhere, there is no base for it in your filter. 2) VA really did say he was certain you are scum. 3) You love to fakeclaim as scum. So if you are scum I was pretty sure you had a fakeclaim ready, because you love to prepare shit in the scum QT. I still think you are scum for reason 1 & 2. Sadly 3 didn't happen but if there is really a scum in our House you were warned. But then again you didn't make a drama about this so really meh... _________________________________________________________________ Grack could I please please please ask of you to tell me why both StorrZerg and Mattchew aren't scum together. Mattchew lied to Storrzerg N2 about the copclaim even though they have been buddying each other up since forever without reasoning. Why have that extra lie? I guess you can never be 100% sure but ... I can't shake the feeling they might be both scum. I also can't shake the feeling that Gryffindor might be scumfree. But I would love to see Cephiro fully role claim. I will push him on that. Cephiro You have said so much things about your role that it is getting insane to make a lie about that now. Could you just please explain your role entirely? At this point if we can put you on certain town it would really be more powerful than any thing you can do I think. It must be JAT that is scum or Mattchew is lieing or there is a framer but with the RB and the extra vote... I think Blazinghand, Mattchew and StorrZerg are scum. So many possible big plays between those. That extra vote on Stutters could be TradeMark Blazinghand, Master of deadline Shenanigans. That's were I am currently. It's a bit crazy. But I like crazy. | ||
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or BH, StorrZerg and Mattchew Because I really don't believe 2 docs in a 1KP scumgame and there isn't an SK it seems.. Like somewhere there. | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game. last comment on this game. I have only accused Cephiro and ET on this gme D1. Thank you. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are not scum Koshi is just unable to see it. -rayn On October 23 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is my view of things (this is honestly my last post tonight): - JAT: There is this weird comment in our QT from D1: Something like "oh good, rayn and Koshi.. this hydra is bs" That does not feel right. Would lynch him asap. - Grack: See the tone. From: "THIS GUYS IS SCUM, AND THIS GUY IS SCUM" to "I dunno, maybe it's your fakeclaim? I am vanilla" Bullshittttt!!!! Lynch. - MAttchew: Mattchew lied to Storrzerg N2 about the copclaim even though they have been buddying each other up since forever. Why have that extra lie? -rayn filter. | ||
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But expect me to be somewhat afkish for the rest of the day. Open to questions etc, obviously those 2 modkills aren't both scum because scum is allowed to use outthread communication.. But they were also masoned so I don't really get it. Anyway, most likely they are both town. I saw them as scum before but only as a team. It doesn't make sense that 1 is scum and 1 not. But I found Mattchew more scummy than Storrzerg, I can still vote CR if people don't believe the copclaim. But I think that is a bad thing to do. Atm believe copclaim and lynch into gryffindor. 3 modkills give us 72 hours less time for mistakes. | ||
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On October 23 2013 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote: I do not recieve hit notifications only notification that my KP was used. I'm guessing yes since otherwise why nobody dead lol. | ||
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On October 23 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote: Who else could ne scum scum in gryffendor? JAT is a possibility to me but nothing really sticks out to me. JAT claims to have shot LoneMeow. There is no CC. So it's Cephiro or raynko. Lynching into Hufflepuff is silly atm. Imo the cop is scum or Cephiro is scum. | ||
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On October 24 2013 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote: I'd go with: Ceph investigated rayn, learned about his candy giving role, tried to fake-claim it subtly. This is what he said: He investigated us, said he got only our role name. Somehow he knew we had candy as power. I asked him about it, he said "it's obvious given your role name". Then, later on he revealed that it was also an affiliation check. So he claims to be an role-name&affiliation cop and have guessed our rolepowers name. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 06:45 Hopeless1der wrote: I ctrl+f'd your filter for "candy". The first instance is ceph's quote, where you proceed to tear him a new one for stealing your case. Have you mentioned your role at all in the QT or to anyone in pm's/masons or anything else? How did ceph know about the candy? No to all questions. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 07:41 Cephiro wrote: .... Because I have a greencheck on him? -__- So the only possibility with the framer is that i was framed, right? Why could scum not frame the house cop on N2? Why is this not a possibility? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 08:01 Cephiro wrote: I don't consider that Matt was framed a possibility because he's being modkilled for out-of-game communication. Scum wouldn't get modkilled for that. I also said that it is possible that I got framed N2. Or then you got framed N1 (falsifying my check), or N2 (falsifying matt's check to one scum), or I'm not a sane cop. How on earth does framing you affect to your checks? -rayn | ||
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By his posts i must be scum, but hey, let's lynch somewhere else and/or wait for syllo to say what to do. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 09:09 Grackaroni wrote: I wanted to hear about the part where I called your day1-night1 reads bad. Tell me more. I didn't say you must be scum. I said you could be scum. If you are town I am thoroughly disappointed with your play. I am a bit puzzled on how you can be disappointed in my play? I called 2 people out on D1. Cephiro and ET. On N1 i told our QT that Pandain is scum. I have not played at all on D2 (or very little). On D3 you call me out for my bad reads. Especially me. Not the hydra, but me, rayn. It was pretty clear the comment was pointed to me. I am going to dig the quote up when it's time to make a case on you. Right now it's irrelevant because we are lynching Cephiro. -rayn | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game. This is the quote. After this you try to cover it up by saying this: On October 23 2013 08:22 Grackaroni wrote: yeah but those are the reads that will show up post game. Not the Day3 reads of Me/JAT/Mattchew which are probably all wrong. The problem is i hadn't given out those reads on you/Matt/JAT before you made the first comment. Therefore you can't possibly say my reads are bad as you did in your first post. TLDR; "rayn's all reads are bad because he asccuses everyone" "i ahve only accused scum if Cephiro is scum" "yeah but these D3 reads are bad" (they were not there when Grack made that argument) -rayn | ||
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I do not believe there is a framer. Given that the only check we know of is a house check, which means framer is incredibly powerful, as instead of hitting one person, it hits a most of 6. If a check says "there is X scum in house Y", what happens when there are 3 people left in the house (see our house atm). We lynch one. They turn up town. We lynch another one. They turn up town. The last guy must be scum. They turn up town. Framer role would be indredibly BS, there is no way there is a framer. -rayn | ||
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He has checked me on N1, he has checked Matt on N2. Where is the "getting more powerful" part? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 10:00 Holyflare wrote: Either the cop is lying and is scum (not likely because of the modkill event) or there are no scum in hufflepuff and the framer made a guess or there are scum in hufflepuff and they are dumb. Or Cephiro is scum and there is no framer and there is scum in hufflepuff? I agree with your statement on the framer regarding N2. I know that if Cephiro is town, i was not framed on N1. JAT is pretty clearly town as he shot scum. Therefore the only explanation is that Cephiro is scum. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 10:03 Grackaroni wrote: Can I see the rest of the case now Rayn? The thread really seemed to take to the first part. Also, comment on Skanjab1s. You use BS reasons to discredit people. You did the exact same thing Golden Sun. You are arrogant and cocky in a different way than you are as town. As i said, i don't need to make a case on you now, we are not lynching you. Why do you want to distract the thread from today's lynch`? -rayn | ||
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Cephiro has a green + rolename check on me from N1. From N2 there is a house check that says there is 1 scum in Gryff. People who are alive in Gryff at that point: Cephiro raynkoshi JAT (shot scum) Vayne (flipped green) In case there is no framer shit there must be scum in me/Cephiro. I do not believe there is any sort of framer shit. I also do not believe the cop is lying (because of the modkill shennies) -rayn | ||
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Why are you quoting random Cephiro's posts? Does it help us if you find the breadcrumb (which he obviously is not lying about as he brought it up)? What...the...hell..are...you...doing? -rayn | ||
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If i make a case on you and am wrong, there is a possibility that this dumb town does what it did on D1 and does not lynch an obv-scum. Btw, 2 town vigilantes? JAT why didn't you shoot Pandain. I clearly pointed out why he is scum in QT. Where did you get your scumread on LM from? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 10:28 Grackaroni wrote: Good god. I told you why today's lynch is bad. I told you who I wanted to lynch. I gave lots of reasoning why earlier and Skanjab1s hasn't posted much since then. Either you are incredibly dense or you are scum. fyi, if you are scum your play is still bad. Now I am going to go through your filter and pull out all of the BS reasoning you have used this game just for the fun of it. A question. If you are so sure Cephiro is town, why don't you want to lynch me? Do you believe this framer bullshit? -rayn | ||
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It turns out I'll be writing more than the Rayn BS compilation because Koshi isn't that good of a scum and he seems like a scum lacking confidence. Incorrect, especially when Koshi plays with me. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote: I'm swapping to cr anyways The timing is just too coincidental There's no vig left.. so his martyr is meaningless And he knows about things he shoukdnt if he hasn't caught up Mocsta why are you not wanting to lynch into something where the probability of scumlynch is in the first place, even as random, 50%? -rayn | ||
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From reading rayn's filter, he's very adamant on lynching within griff to get the scum. He doesn't seem to have a strong preference on which person to lynch first TROLOLOLOL! -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 11:04 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn, In day1 your mains pushes were Onegu/Cephiro. Can you show me where i am "pushing Onegu"? I once said i could lynch him for his multiple apologies. What else? -rayn | ||
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I wanted to make ET to push his lynch because i wanted to see what he does. Did he push Onegu? I also wanted to make Onegu post more. Also am i pushing Onegu lynch in that post? From what i read i am pushing Cephiro, no? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 11:18 Grackaroni wrote: I said you were pushing Cephiro. I'm not making a big deal of this. I just pointed it out because you keep talking about how great your day1 reads were and it turns out they may not have even been good. This is wrong Grack. You especially said before my main pushes were Cephiro and Onegu. I am not pushing Onegu any more than i am pushing EchelonTee. In fact i am not pushing Onegu at all. I am not asking anyone's opinion on him. I am not asking him any questions. All i am doing is inviting him into discussion by putting pressure on him via ET (which would tell me more about ET aswell). I am, however, asking people's opinion on ET. I am asking him to make a case on someone. I am asking Sno what does he think about ET. I am asking ET questions all D1 long. I point out his scummy behavior multiple times. Yet you say my main pushes were Cephiro and Onegu. This is simply incorrect. I did not push ET, that's true, because i pushed Cephiro. But i certainly did not push Onegu MORE than ET. Anyone who reads my filter from D1 should be able to see that easily, and i can't understand why are you telling otherwise. Let's talk about this now if you want. So could you explain? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 11:04 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn, In day1 your mains pushes were Onegu/Cephiro. Now Grackaroni. Back up this statement of yours. Please. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 11:52 Grackaroni wrote: I stand by what I said earlier. There is a pretty big difference in the confidence of Koshi's posts between here and Thug Life. What Rayn said is irrelevant because he wasn't even there at the start when koshi was posting. Boom, Un-debunked. And you know this how? -rayn | ||
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Holyflare. I am a bit confused. We had a talk about my role/actions claim and Grack's claim at the start of D3. Are you not paying attention or how is it possible you don't know what Grack meant when he said he will be RB'd? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 12:23 Grackaroni wrote: you do that. I have a kind of silly theory right now that scum get the visit info and town get the rb/kp. I kinda don't care what you think because this is what's gonna happen: Cephiro flips red. Then i ask you why you didn't wanna lynch into 50% scum. Then you bring up the framer bullshit. Then i ask you but why did you then question me, if you want to lynch elsewhere. Then you bring up that you had a scumread on me. Then i bring up the fact that i debunked all your cases before you even made them for real, and you never followed up on any points after i gave my answers to them. Then you squirm a bit. Then i ask you why did you waste a day questioning a dude who will be either confirmed town or confirmed scum after Cephiro flip. Then you probably bring up the framer bullshit again, and make up some reasons. You probably should start thinking about those reasons already. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 13:44 Mocsta wrote: Then as bh said. Both are town. No one has cc'd jat so he is confirmed. Hmmm only thing going for onegu is that et pushed him. I'm going to have to review this.. onegu was scum in the desert game with marv right?? The et/onegu thong could be lime stutters pushing kush in noir. Real case cos it was real. I give that a quick read. Maybe onegu is the best lynch for today. Are you considering Onegu as a lynch because scum made a case on him? lol.. Mocsta wtf? -rayn | ||
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Cephiro, CR, Grack when Grack is scum. Grack you are the key. Cephiro must be scum though. Or SK. But I think scum. The only thing I saw from Cephiro is 1 copcheck on us (because the mattchew "check" is not proven, there was no breadcrumb about his role like when he knew I had Candy), and then the thingies with the coins. Which is the scum masoner compared to Storrzerg town Masoner? Got to say Hosts did quite a good job creating these roles. Game isn't over yet but I like what I am seeing. Ohyeah, and I can believe 2 docs now. There was 3 KP for scum if you count the 0.5kp guys. Just hilarious that they died by Mr. Snowman. Bad play by scum there tbh. | ||
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On October 24 2013 18:47 syllogism wrote: Did you give anyone candy on n1? Yes ourselves, but we got back that LoneMeow did an night action. | ||
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On October 24 2013 19:03 syllogism wrote: He was modkilled for getting temp banned from TL But he would be able to vote on the next day and he could post in the QT. So the Protego thing is a joke? | ||
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So that's why I asked, is the Protego thing a joke or was it claimed. But now that I think more about it. It is probably a joke. It's cool. | ||
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Snowman (vengeful doc claim, no CC) JAT (Shot LM, no CC) Syllo (IC) Very likely town: Mocsta (I like how he plays and it screams town to me, additionally the RB on BH makes no sense if you look at the scum Night Kills. I believe him that Draco Town/ Harry Scum. He said he was Town Harry Potter before night 2 and backed it up with the RB. So yeah, town. Town: BH (Got shot this night most likely, other option is the guy with 1.5 hp, but it made a lot of sense it would be BH) Hopeless (Isn't pushing scum agenda, and with this I mean he is pretty neutral about things, but he wanted to lynch inside his house even though he had townreads on all, I like the potions to be town but they can be scum tbh as well, liked how he gave us townread, but I like his voting the most. Nothing anti-town about this guy his posting) Null: Grack (NULL NULL NULL) (But really I think he is scum, but then again, I think he is VT) Onegu (People say he is blue and they have a townread on him, I haven't followed up on him and I have no clue. I know he said early that I was town, and I think he is either sheeping a lot of reads of us or he follows same thought process. Also filters suggested he is town, with the case from ET.) Holyflare (I'll put him here because I actually like the guy but he promised us dazzling shining stuff today and haven't seen it yet. Personally I would see Grack be scum over Holyflare. Holyflare was promoting discussion and being very active D1, talking with Pandain and generally trying to forward discussion, he kinda stopped playing like that since d2, which might have to do with N1... Yeah I don't know, I like his play over that from Grack.) scummies: Cephiro (PoE, Day 1, First claimed role that gets stronger after deaths, then does a rolecheck on me, then does another rolecheck on Mattchew?, I don't understand why he only rolechecked twice with his "powerful" role". CR (Replacing yamato, same big posts as in thug, but these ones I don't like, "vig me lynch huffle" when the Cephiro train is well underway) Skanjab1s (The problem I have is that if this guy is scum then CR isn't scum, Skanjab last 4 pages of filter is trying to get CR lynched, if CR is town, lynch this guy if CR is town. It could be that this guy just decided to stop playing and is bussing for easy cred and wants to ride it to endgame that way but mehhh.) The solution is somewhere here: Cephiro please be scum. The circlejerk CR/Skanjab1s/Grack. Hufflescum (Grack or Holyflare) | ||
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Somewhat easy if Mattchew is scum (RIP Cephiro D then we just lynch CR -->Skanjab | ||
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Unless Cephiro is 3P. Then I am ok with it. | ||
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- What is this codeword shit and why do you think instead of sharing your thoughts with people you are communicating with you feel the need to tell them what to do? - Your "to lynch when i flip" list. Is there any particular reason you don't any more think there is a framer? Because for you to be town there absolutely has to be framer in this game. | ||
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On October 24 2013 21:51 Cephiro wrote: I do think there is a framer. I just want to make sure that if I get lynched it doesn't go to some random: "Oh fuck, Ceph was town, better start lynching someone like Skanjab1s" or something irrelevant. I guess it could be argued that JAT can be left off the list, an un-CCed vig can hardly be scum. The codewords were meant as a way for everyone that had a coin from me to discuss certain things without others knowing, I was hoping to create a small circle of trust. (Which Mocsta again, did a great job of ruining.) It wasn't like "I need to tell them what to do", but with a one-way secret message a day, why would not I convey my opinion of "what should be done"? Yeah but you just said when you flip town "lynch into Gryff then lynch into Huffle" which makes no sense given that it will be confirmed there is a framer. Either i am scum and framed N1. Or i am town and scum framed someone in our house N2. Which makes it likely someone from Huffle was framed N1. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 21:54 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn I shot LM because I sheeped syllo and marv (who convinced me it wasn't town LM). Didn't even know SS wanted him dead. Wouldn't have mattered anyways because I didn't really have a townread on SS. Yeah i looked at your filter and got it. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 22:03 syllogism wrote: It's unfortunate that both Grack and Holyflare argued against this lynch today AND essentially also on day 1. Did you take a look at my little talk with Grack last night? -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 22:12 Cephiro wrote: Okay, so since you've clearly decided to lynch me without even considering another option... *Insert insult here* At least spend the time left in the day trying to find the real scum, or question me to get more information. There is no reason for anyone except scum to act like syllo ("I don't give a fuck until the flip"), which is extremely annoying since syllo is modconfirmed town. So why do so many consider Mocsta town? Or why hasn't anyone been going on about how Holy later on claimed that his power is used secretly unlike he claimed before? When there are so many people that wanted to lynch ChRay, why aren't you pushing Holy further about this? Can hardly be because I'm a "better" target. You think Mocsta and Pandain have close to the exact same role and both are scum? Harry and Draco? You think that scum Mocsta used RB on BH and the scumteam didn't hit syllo to frame either Hopeless or BH? Mocsta is almost confirmed town to me because of those 2 things alone. | ||
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With the information scum had killing BH was very logical, he was doc, he was BH and syllo was being docced. Mr. Snowman his night action have been superb. | ||
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There are 3 reason for no NK: 1) NK was used on BH the doc, but he got saved by Snowman the doc. (80%) 2) NK was used on Storrzerg or Mattchew the guy with 1,5 hp. (10%) 3) NK was RB because BH had to deliver it and got RB. (10%) Mocsta is never ever scum. Because boh option 1 & 2 would not have happened if scum knew that BH was getting RB, because they would shoot syllo and frame BH and Hopeless. (BH for faking doc, hopeless because potion wont arrive). In option 3 Mocsta is a town hero. So there is no way Mocsta is scum. It doesn't make any sense from NK perspective. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 24 2013 19:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Town for sure: Snowman (vengeful doc claim, no CC) JAT (Shot LM, no CC) Syllo (IC) Very likely town: Mocsta (I like how he plays and it screams town to me, additionally the RB on BH makes no sense if you look at the scum Night Kills. I believe him that Draco Town/ Harry Scum. He said he was Town Harry Potter before night 2 and backed it up with the RB. So yeah, town. Town: BH (Got shot this night most likely, other option is the guy with 1.5 hp, but it made a lot of sense it would be BH) Hopeless (Isn't pushing scum agenda, and with this I mean he is pretty neutral about things, but he wanted to lynch inside his house even though he had townreads on all, I like the potions to be town but they can be scum tbh as well, liked how he gave us townread, but I like his voting the most. Nothing anti-town about this guy his posting) Null: Grack (NULL NULL NULL) (But really I think he is scum, but then again, I think he is VT) Onegu (People say he is blue and they have a townread on him, I haven't followed up on him and I have no clue. I know he said early that I was town, and I think he is either sheeping a lot of reads of us or he follows same thought process. Also filters suggested he is town, with the case from ET.) Holyflare (I'll put him here because I actually like the guy but he promised us dazzling shining stuff today and haven't seen it yet. Personally I would see Grack be scum over Holyflare. Holyflare was promoting discussion and being very active D1, talking with Pandain and generally trying to forward discussion, he kinda stopped playing like that since d2, which might have to do with N1... Yeah I don't know, I like his play over that from Grack.) scummies: Cephiro (PoE, Day 1, First claimed role that gets stronger after deaths, then does a rolecheck on me, then does another rolecheck on Mattchew?, I don't understand why he only rolechecked twice with his "powerful" role". CR (Replacing yamato, same big posts as in thug, but these ones I don't like, "vig me lynch huffle" when the Cephiro train is well underway) Skanjab1s (The problem I have is that if this guy is scum then CR isn't scum, Skanjab last 4 pages of filter is trying to get CR lynched, if CR is town, lynch this guy if CR is town. It could be that this guy just decided to stop playing and is bussing for easy cred and wants to ride it to endgame that way but mehhh.) The solution is somewhere here: Cephiro please be scum. The circlejerk CR/Skanjab1s/Grack. Hufflescum (Grack or Holyflare) | ||
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On October 24 2013 22:45 syllogism wrote: I forgot that mafia may not have known that sn0 was a medic when assigning their N2 KP, makes the BH shot a bit more reasonable. I couldn't understand why mafia would shoot BH otherwise. BH claimed medic that was going to protect syllo. Also he is BH and people say he is good at solving things and shoot him N1 everytime. But I am thinking people might just be Pandain. | ||
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Grackaroni [Trying to defend me, Pandain tried to ask him for a masonry if he had a power like that, too unlikely to be doing this just for extra town cred due to not being very credible in most eyes atm, it wouldn't be enough.], Sn0_Man [Towny town, based on actions] Apparently you have no idea how Pandabearguy plays scum, which is highly unlike as you were scum with him in Noir. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 22:54 syllogism wrote: I very much look forward to reading mafia QT for their opinions about the role balance. They perhaps don't even know what my role can still do. Well, getting 2 very powerful roles killed by a doc with 1-shot vengeful ability is funny but not imbalanced. Even a watcher could have fucked them both. Dnu what they were thinking there. Rolecop, JAT (Cephiro), "Vote rigger" that makes 4vs3 scum victory and then unknown 1. But yeah, I am interested as well on the set-up. Need to kill scummers first though. | ||
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On October 24 2013 23:28 justanothertownie wrote: And why the hell did you campaign for a stutters lynch over CR and even used your quite powerful ability to finish him if you thought the lynch was between 2 townies? WTF! Ignore him. He is shitting the thread up. -rayn | ||
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Pandain (Harry) had flipped. Ceph is Hermione, Vayne had basically claimed Ginny. Either me, Stutters or JAT has to be Ron Weasley. He put's "candy" in his post and then you go "hmm.. candies.." in thread. What there is to guess? -rayn | ||
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Can you make a bigger case on Grack why he is town? Can you make a bigger case on Onegu why he is scum? I think that will help town a lot next days. | ||
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On October 25 2013 00:34 Hopeless1der wrote: You guys? I assume the silence means thats a yes. You mean putting CR second in the vote race? Sure. Maybe we want Holyflare to use secret vote as well. Would make it easier for tomorrow. Because if Cephiro is town, I think Holyflare is certain scum. 2 people that can cast secret votes on town is a bit much. Dnu why I didn't realize that sooner rofl. | ||
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On October 25 2013 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote: okay seriously I want 3 votes on a secondary target. Can we agree on someone to replace Ceph in the event that he's been made unlynchable somehow? CR sounds a good second wagon. I can switch. | ||
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On October 25 2013 01:07 Hopeless1der wrote: CR is maybe getting modkilled. backup to the backup if he neglects to vote? I'd prefer skanjab. Cool. I can switch to him as well. They ain't both scum but 1 is if Grack is no scum. | ||
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On October 25 2013 01:07 Sn0_Man wrote: I have no experience or knowledge regarding how an "unlynchable" power works/would work. I'm fine with some people moving to chairman ray. Enough to guarantee it as the 2nd lynch. For those wondering, Ceph's plan wouldn't work if scum have some version of a vote rigger that essentially "ends" the lynch voting at a given time. That would cause an Onegu lynch of all things... And with the vote manipulation powers revealed so far that wouldn't surprise me at all. So I'm not OK with it. y u so smart? | ||
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On October 25 2013 02:35 Grackaroni wrote: I will take solace in the fact that Raynoshi was also a noob. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. seems like I accidentally wrote scum instead of town. | ||
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You know where I am going with this. It's just not Hopeless. And even more crazy then 2 town secret voters is 2 scum secret voters :DDD | ||
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Yeah it's Cephiro, Grack and CR if both Storrzerg and Mattchew flip town. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: It just better not be Mattchew. Then I am the only one who ends up being the noob. If Mattchew is not a cop and Cephiro town then Holyflare is scum with Mattchew. So that's ok. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:12 Chairman Ray wrote: kay ##unvote Vote: Chairman Ray K, now you better be scum and surrender. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:18 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm not actually scum. I just think that if it gets down to lylo, then I'll be a liability since I'm basically a blank puzzle piece at endgame. I can't really do a lot of scumhunting, and there's little information everyone else knows about me. So it's better I flip early than later. If someone still has alignment checking powers, that would also be useful just to get me confirmed as town. So you play anti-town so that we lynch you and waste 72 hours? | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:34 Chairman Ray wrote: You could also just not lynch me and win before it gets to lylo. then help us instead of martyr.......... | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote: ![[image loading]](http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/35300000/Baby-Seal-animals-35311006-1280-1179.jpg) Pleading for the town to suddenly become smart by posting baby seal pics as requested? :D Soo cute. | ||
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I also don't hold setup speculation as high in value as several of you do. Says the guy who has fdone nothing but talked about roles and setup and possibilities because of setup the whole game.. wtf man?? -rayn | ||
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On October 25 2013 05:38 Onegu wrote: 9 stutters is dead but not checked off true. | ||
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On October 25 2013 05:40 Sn0_Man wrote: Think ur next rayn. Sorry but I'm feeling like it has to be this way. Dude we aren't scum. Look at what I wrote. It's all legit. | ||
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Who wants new candy? I think Grack is best target. | ||
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Yeah I know. D: Buss into easy endgame? Best guess. | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:14 Holyflare wrote: You guys are actually kidding right? There's a POSITIVE COP CHECK on people in gryffindor ON THE HOUSE THAT WASN'T GOING TO GET COP CHECKED, there is absolutely no way that a fucking framer does that shit. We lynch jat or rayn and there is no other option. Stop playing dumb. Lynch this guy after if you are seriously going to lynch us. He's the counterpart of Cephiro. Oh and Grack, i am waiting for the case. dundun.. -rayn | ||
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Holyflare, riddle me this: As for rayn I've only played 1 game with him and he was scum, I would be confident identifying his traits if he displayed them though. You seem to be sure i am scum. Correctly identify my scumtraits and tell the thread. (hint: whenever someone has tried to do this and i have been town they have been scum -- but by all means, as you are so confident as you claimed on D1, go ahead -- stand behind your words) On a sidenote. I will be re-reading the whole game tomorrow and Saturday, then i will tell the thread who is scum. I've never been mislynched - even with a fucked up check - and i do not intend to start now. kthxbye. -rayn | ||
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On October 25 2013 11:46 Grackaroni wrote: That was you that was making promises of a case not me. I'd prefer it if you would just comment on Skanjab1s/CR. I will comment on everything the next day phase. I don't think we get NK'd ... :p -rayn | ||
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"Let's pressure Cephiro, he is playing to his scum meta" "ET and Palmar good lynches if Cephiro proves his towniness. JAT looks worse" "agreed" Palmar starts posting "based on latest posting i think Palmar is town. Like 90% town" "Dunno, why? Minimal effort" "Different minimal effort than scum Palmar, LA summed it up really well in his post" Then we go back to Cephiro I hate Cephiro for ruining my D1 and D3.. -rayn | ||
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On October 24 2013 02:27 Holyflare wrote: We do not know if the cop claim was entirely accurate so instead of lynching a potentially framed house member i think we should be lynching one of those 3, ray is looking like the most probable one to be scum. Also, from a framers point of view, why would he frame someone from gryffindor? There was posts from storr in our qt that said he wqs checking scum in either ravenclaw or slytherin so if there ws mafia in hufflepuff a frame on gryffindor would be really dumb. So either cop flips red and everything makes sense or cop flips green and hufflepuff is less suspicious. Based on this information i think the cephiro lynch is actually quite apt unless he reveals his powers because syllo seems definite mattchew is town/cop even though i don't see it. Especially as storr said he was breadcrumbing cop in day 1 before the mattchew qt started, i think, can't check that on phone right now. For myself, for tomorrow. I think this post alone makes HF scum based on what he has said today. -rayn | ||
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On October 25 2013 12:37 Mocsta wrote: Wifom. I get the point you are conveying but it's not something I will vote somebody for. Nono, i am not saying it makes anyone scum. I am saying HF's thought process is not valid. I will explain this in detail tomorrow. There is more. You guys focus on Skan/CR, i do HF first. :D They are probably all scum unless BH. I think we should confirm him somehow. Is there a way? He hasn't posted much of anything useful whole game. -rayn | ||
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On October 26 2013 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote: I also considered protecting Pandain. Or one of the hosts. Don't protect the hosts. Protest to the hosts. They gave us bad candy. -rayn | ||
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Candy candy not so good. Candy candy stuck in my teeth! Pfff.. That awful taste.. It's just so cheap! ! The host always tells me 'candy candy so very good, it will not hurt teeth UNDERSTOOD! ' I want better candy, I want to eat, I don't care what anyone says, I know this candy is the worst. Ouch! Ouch! I was right! Because of candy Grack can't even bite. Candy candy not so good, Just remember to throw it away Because.. Candy candy is not so good.. For your teeth. " -rayn | ||
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On October 26 2013 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sno are you keeping a list of claims? If you are could you tell me what they are. I think i remember most of the mbut too lazy to check. -rayn For filter. | ||
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On October 27 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I thought he was supposed to use it yesterday? -rayn For filter goddamn. | ||
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We have a veteran, 2 doctors, 2 JOAT's, some roleblockers, somekinda watcher (or whatever Sno did N1), housecop, and scum have.. what.. framer and 2x +0.5KP which backfired? Doesn't feel right at all... -rayn | ||
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On October 28 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote: rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game. what is the outcome? I didn't do it yet. -rayn | ||
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Also BH is probably scum for doing nothing all game, getting roleblocked and no night kills. I dunno who the third one is, probably Mocsta himself for his stupid ass post that makes no sense. -rayn | ||
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I might post something today. -rayn | ||
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Do you guys really think we have 2 doctors (Sno as some sort of multipower role which i don't even remember) and a veteran? Then there is this guy who gives out invulnerability potions and other shit. Then we had a dude, who, if killed, takes one mafia with them. Town roles are so seriously OP at this point that someone who has claimed a powerful role absolutely has to be lying, a lot. Seriously. Everyone is jerking around the powers but noone is willing to lynch into them to actually confirm anything. Onegu hasn't done shit all game, BH hasn't done shit all game but being roleblocked. rofl, it's all i can say. -rayn | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand why mafia would not hit BH last night in case BH is town? It would make you look terribad as you've been roleblocking the town doctor. BH could not be protected either way. Remember, you have a "red check" on you too. Why hit Onegu? -rayn filter. | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:08 Mocsta wrote: He did not release which option it randomed? He could choose between them. -rayn | ||
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On October 28 2013 12:10 Mocsta wrote: In got Onegu was clearly town in pm and was lynch bait in thread. Syllo thinks onegu is town because of qt. Do u really think onegu could trick syllo?? If syllo is trying as hard in house QT as he is in thread probably anyone could fool him. No offence to anyone but this thread could probably be fooled by three [insert some really bad scumplayer name here] atm. How about we actually start playing tomorrow? I promise to try more aswell as mods threw Koshi in the trashcan with candy. I'll also stop signing my posts since it's only me anymore. | ||
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I had a townread on Skan from D1. After that i have not been playing much. I only came in HC on D3 when i was sure Cephiro was scum and you guys hadn't still lynched him (i was at a LAN-party last weekend, so i couldn't play much, andthere was the championship game too). I gotta reread Skan's filter aswell, see what makes sense and what doesn't. I got some town vibes from his posting in the last 20 pages. I honestly do not think Mocsta is scum, i just get pissed off by false accusations against me. Syllo is obv town, whatever he does or does not do doesn't change that. Sno is probably town. Aside powers there was one post that really struck me as townie, and his posting overall has been fine. Onegu hasn't done shit, BH hasn't done shit, Hopeless hasn't done shit. I think that's all alive no? | ||
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Start of D1 - QT opens. Pandain makes an opening post in thread and is really active in QT, i give him a townread for that (because he is not rational as scum - or his disguise falls apart at some point). Nothing to change my mind at the first 3/4 of D1 (as Pandain is reasonable with his suspicion on Ceph, and i agree with him). Then i go off for the rest of D1, Palmar gets lynched. I look at Pandain's posts on D1 end and on N1. Then i post this: "Pandain wtf is wrong with you? " "Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff." This is based on late D1 and N1 when Pandain, for no apparent reason, completely changes his read on Cephiro (Cephiro actually WAS playing to his scum meta - it's fucking obvious if you looked at Aperture and Noir). | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:26 Onegu wrote: Mocsta if HF is town why did he claim his vot was public then backpeddle to say it was secret? Better question is why would he do that as scum? | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote: Because he had too. He claimed then mocsta used his secret vote and "oh shit" my claim cant be public I better say its a secret vote also. This doesn't make any sense. Why can't he just do ##something: player and say "okay now i used my extra vote" instead of saying "okay guys i lied"? | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote: Well it may have answered the question, but I need JAT to confirm. Your response detailed posts past-Day1, which extends beyond the info JAT had when making that post. It is possible JAT is referring to you calling Pandain town for his opener. But only he can confirm. Okay i get it. I have called Pandain town in QT and in thread the whole D1 i have been here. When i left he started doing scummy shit and i called him out on it in N1. | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:34 syllogism wrote: Because it would still show up as a "secret vote" Did he claim something else then? Like "my vote counts twice" or ? | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:36 syllogism wrote: No, he said he had an extra vote that he has to publicly announce, but I definitely would be extremely suspicious of a publicly announced vote that shows up as "secret". Why would you claim that as scum in the first place? Why not just say that you are vanilla and use the vote on LYLO? | ||
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(1) Grack has a lot of scumreads. Nothing but Skanjabs last for like a half of a page in his filter (besides his townread on BH - for what?). (2) He does never really try to push a lynch on Skanjabs. Not on D2, when he makes the case, not on D3 when he thought Cephiro was town. There is always a better alternative in the end, despite Skanjabs remaining as his scumread for the whole game since he made the case. (3) He asks people a lot about Skanjabs, but never follows these questions up. In addition to that, he does never really interact with Skanjabs in any way - trying to find out who he is scum with, or making him say something that could enforce his case. (4) In fact, his interactions with other people do not seem like he is really trying to scumhunt. Half of his filter is pure trolling and other half is calling Skanjabs scum while never pushing his lynch like a townie should push his scumread (taking account his interactions with other people regarding Skan). (5) None of the people that i think have a chance of flipping scum in this game do not consider Grackaroni as scum. Why is that? He is one of the people whose role is not confirmed nor does it point heavily towards him being town. He is a possible mislynch for scum, in case he is town. Why is there zero scum at least putting up some suspicion on him? Given what he has done this game i find that really fishy. | ||
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On October 29 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote: The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either  We are, it's just that there were people like CR and Cephiro.. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote: Lots of problems with his case. 1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man) 2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock. 3) I did interact with Skanjab1s... 4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced. 5) 5 is actually decent. 1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game. 2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread. 3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case. 4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad. On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/ | ||
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I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum? | ||
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On October 26 2013 08:47 Grackaroni wrote: This is the post in question.People have no idea how much it bugs that I accuse Skanjab of having weak justification for a vote change off of his scum read and contradictions and I get ignored. But then Mocsta writes that Skanjab1s case on Sn0 Man was weak. (It was actually quite reasonable; Switching from a scumread on to a policy lynch proposed by your previous scum read is scummy) and then cherry picks some one-liners and says Skanjab doesn't care about the lynch and that constitutes a good case. I could find quotes exactly like that in every single town game Palmar has ever played in or even from my own filter this game. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:31 Grackaroni wrote: The only thing I find funny about that situation is that when I do that in Golden Sun you call me out as scum. You think Skanjab1s made the same mistake that I had made in Golden Sun this game but rather than call him out on it you avoid commenting on the case and instead accuse me of making a case against a weaker player and following my scum meta. Then you start insisting that I write a case on you when I wasn't even interested in lynching you. Well that's not entirely true; the fact that you come back later to accuse me of not pushing Skanjab1s is pretty funny too. I do not think it is totally scummy as it has never been pointed out what he in fact did. I would think you would however be interested in this as you did the same thing in your last scumgame. That should enforce your case. Why are you not looking more into it (see my last post where you point it out)? You have not pushed Skanjab lynch and that is a fact. There is even posts from you that support this heavily. For example, you saying on D3: "I am waiting syllo to come in and disagree with me on Cephiro" etc. That's really fucking fishy and does not imply you are even trying to lynch your top scumread. | ||
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On October 29 2013 04:46 Grackaroni wrote: Oh that's me disagreeing with Mocsta's case. Yeah that is invalid, i thought you guys were talking about Skan when you were in fact talking about Sno. | ||
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On October 29 2013 05:15 syllogism wrote: There's 10 alive I believe, 7-3 Okay you are right. | ||
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On October 29 2013 06:47 Grackaroni wrote: meh since you are here why aren't you voting me? Because perma-cancelling a vote from a most likely town member is essentially a same thing than killing them. That's fucking scummy. | ||
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Squib Holyflare. The extra vote is pretty damn dangerous if he is scum. I kinda want to lynch Grack because he hasn't been doing anything since forever. I am okay with what you guys decide, but i don't think Skan is scum mainly because i think Grack is. I am pretty sure one of them is mafia and atm i am leaning on Grack, could be wrong though. I got mixed feelings from BH's latest posts and i do not know what to think of him. If i ignore those posts i would say he is definitely scum based on his contributions and what has happened during night phases. | ||
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On October 29 2013 23:54 Hopeless1der wrote: What syllo's referring to: By this logic shouldn't the masons be squibs too as it's not really a "magical power"? | ||
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On October 29 2013 23:58 Mocsta wrote: Wow. If Holyflare is scum he deserves a mafia award.. 20 page filter.. + convincing Day1. Im going to sleep on this. Issue with grack is due to Rayn candy. Apparently he got roleblocked, which is only possible if he is not VT. (so I suppose not related in the squib sense) No, what the candy did to him was to make him choose either getting roleblocked or take 0.5 KP damage the following night. Whether or not he has a role has nothing to do with that, he can still choose to get roleblocked. | ||
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I don't really know Mocsta how you say there is a red check on me. It is kinda true, but then again, if there is a red check on me there is like 150% red check on Onegu, because syllogism in fact IS confirmed town, JAT is not (i know, it's like 0,00000001% possibility that he is not town, but still). Why do you ignore the check on Onegu if you bring up the check on me? Once again, my activity is not alignment indicative. It is true that in Noir and GoT i was inactive for various reasons. But again, it's fucking not and i hope nobody never brings that as an alignment indicative thing after this game. I will always lynch people for it in future, remember that. I am almost tempted to stop playing and let you lynch me just to prove that.. I am here now, ask me anything. | ||
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I am only voting for Holyflare because of what syllogism brought up about him not being a squib. That's really BS if he really is not lying about it. | ||
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- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that. - Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town. - He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game. - Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato. - This is an odd post: On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote: If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one. On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people? - Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts): I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. On D2 however: On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote: I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing. I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now. - Weird voting on D2. - Contradicts himself again on yamato - Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit. I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then. | ||
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If one of them is town, Grack must be scum. There is no other explanation. | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:10 Holyflare wrote: I claimed it all on day 2 hufflepiff check was there and I said i have nothing to hide and announced my role to the qt first. Apparently you had something to hide as you fakeclaimed? | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:16 Holyflare wrote: I said i could make my vote count twice, intentionally not revealing anything else just in case and then when i revealed storr and matt made everyone else reveal. The whole qt was a real witch hunt and if i said it was a secret vote they would of lynched me, despite everyone calling each other town reads. So if you had nothing to hide why did you hide something? If you were so goddamn town why would your role make people lynch you? | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:19 syllogism wrote: To be specific, he said that he had an extra vote that he announces in the thread, not jus tthat he could make his vote count twice. That's what i am referring to when i say "hiding something". I am aware of that. | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:21 Holyflare wrote: It was a 1 time vote and i didn't want to waste it on cephiro but then everyone got mad so i used it on rqy the next day straight away. It was a real possibility scum was there i didn't want to give everything away. People in my qt were dumb, listed me as town and then for no reason listed me as most likely to not be town in the same breath and that was without me saying it was secret. I wouldn't be here if it was said. Then why did you promise to use it on Cephiro in the first place (you did so right?)? | ||
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On October 23 2013 07:27 Holyflare wrote: .................... -.- is everyone lying about their roles then?!?!?!?! Oh god this post is so very bad. Why do you make my head hurt Holyflare? fuck it. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Holyflare I am terribly sorry if you are town, it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense as scum either but if it doesn't make sense as either alignment has to be scum. Worked 2/2 in Thug life. | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:42 Holyflare wrote: That's why i posted it??? "oh everyone is lying then -.-" why does that make me the scummiest? 4 or 5 people have done the same thing. Because you call people out for lying about their powers when you are yourself unnecessarily harcore lying about yours?!!??!!? | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:49 Holyflare wrote: I fail to see how that's alignment indicative? It wasn't just a call out it was a semi admittance too. Why do you do this? Why do you lie about your power in the first place if you are town? Why o why? Because i do not see any reason to do so... | ||
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On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote: I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s. I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here]. You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread. That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro. | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote: I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me? It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it? Are you those other people? | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote: The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad. So other people who have done the same thing later on are scummy but my case on you is bad? Elaborate more please. | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:18 Skanjab1s wrote: Half of the case said that I am town, so yeah, as a case against someone you think is scum, it was pretty bad. And you don't seem to be understanding what i am trying to say. I was looking through your filter and i (1) explained why i had a townread on you on D1 and (2) why you are extremely scummy after that. It's not that hard, it can't be. | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:26 Skanjab1s wrote: I am extremely scummy because I said that yamato is town that one time while I was trying to push Sno. That happened a really long time ago, yet you have been calling me town since way after that. Why is it only relevant now? Because i was literally not here on D2 and have not read your filter/posts after that. On D3 i thought Cephiro was scum so i didn't care. On D4 i thought Grack/CR is scum so i didn't care. Now i do care. On October 31 2013 07:28 Grackaroni wrote: They aren't scummy lol. Mocsta did it and he is probably not scum. JAT also is pretty much confirmed town and was against the lynch and did close to nothing to change it. This is entirely a different thing that you are doing. Anyways i am not here to convince you. syllo is good enough to see what i am talking about and Mocsta while making some weird overtry posts last day will listen to legit reasoning. Good night. | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: And fyi I don't have anything to talk with Skanjab about because he's done absolutely nothing since day2. You trying to make it out as if I'm incapable of talking with teammates is pretty cute though. I have never suggested you are teammates which you would know if you have read my posts. Why are you even suggesting such a thing? | ||
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I thought you were actually decent as town Mocsta... What's wrong with you? | ||
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On October 31 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote: U wanna be like that. Nothings gonna change. There's some really weird comments hr makes early on about Grack too I don't care because if a mafia guy says something about someone else (or doesn't say) it doesn't tell anything about their alignment. *sigh* It's pretty basic stuff. | ||
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On October 31 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote: Right.... What a stupid way to brush it off. What do you suggest i do? What i can do? Make up some reason why he would say that. How the fuck am i supposed to do that as town when i have absolutely no idea why he did what he did and said what he said? | ||
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That makes zero sense and Blazinghand is scum. On top of that he has given the town nothing at all. | ||
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If you want references here we go: - Holyflare's claim this game - S0lstice counter-claiming cop after two cycles in Thuglife and letting Koshi run around confirming people without saying anything (and people discussed if he was in fact the real cop ffs) - CR claiming scum in Thug life during the night "because of not getting hit" when he was the #1 lynch candidate for the next day and under serious pressure (yes, people considered if he was in fact town the next day...) 4/4 is Blazinghand this game. | ||
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On October 31 2013 16:10 Blazinghand wrote: this is my fault for letting things get like this anyways Since when does Blazinghand say this kinda crap before post-game? | ||
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Hosts: "You are a non-consecutive medic" Blazinghand: "But hey, can i save this one dude i saved the last night regardless of it" Hosts: "Well sure you can!" Blazinghand: "Doc Sn0" Hosts: "Okay" Sn0_man has died. Who thinks this is totally legit raise your hand! | ||
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On October 31 2013 17:44 Mocsta wrote: Doesn't matter. Bis last successful save was Sno His last rb save was Sno No matter what it wouldn't go through lol Talk about derp What? | ||
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On October 31 2013 18:10 Mocsta wrote: Whats ya problem with what I am saying? We are on the same page; I'm providing irrefutable evidence. I suspect BH is aware of this, hence the appeal to emotion the day before. Yes i get it now, didn't get it in the first place. Roleblock BH, i eat candy and take 0.5 KP, if i see some "vanilla squibalurts" like Grackaroni or Skanjabby (i don't give a fuck he hasn't claimed -- he shoulddo that right now) visit someone game solved. | ||
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More than Skanjabs. Doesn't really matter. Both Grack and HF tried to make a case on me at some point and failed horribly. skanjabs gave a town read on me just while ago. that's bad if he is scum as he'll run out of mislynches. | ||
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On October 31 2013 18:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I kinda believe Onegu's claim. I doubt BH would have sent in NK two nights in a row when rb'd N2. Last scum is framer. Like, i mean this: BH: "Hey our NK did not go through, i was rb'd" or "i was RB'd (and someone was docced - i don't remember where sno was on N2)" BH: "but hey, let me send in the kill again on N3 - i doubt Mocsta is smart enough to rb the same guy because the NK failed last time" | ||
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On October 31 2013 18:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Like, i mean this: BH: "Hey our NK did not go through, i was rb'd" or "i was RB'd (and someone was docced - i don't remember where sno was on N2)" BH: "but hey, let me send in the kill again on N3 - i doubt Mocsta is smart enough to rb the same guy because the NK failed last time" This is the only scenario where Onegu is scum. | ||
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Whether or not you sent in the kill on N2 (you probably did as there was no-kill), you got roleblocked by Mocsta, who claimed the roleblock. Town knows you were roleblocked, would you risk sending in the kill again on N3 in case the roleblocker just "wants to be sure of you" -- after all he rb'd a claimed doctor on N2 already. | ||
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If Skanjabs claims squib we lynch him after BH. There is no question about it, in either of those scenarios he is/has hurt the town enough. | ||
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On October 31 2013 18:35 Mocsta wrote: I can choose a target and have their night actions redirected magic carpet swaps the actions of A to B (I cant remember if B is the magic carpet user) I think you should use your judgement on what to do. My personal view is for the last scum: Grackaroni (75%) Skanjabs (24%) Onegu (1% - if BH was really dumb on N3) One of you, syllo & JAT is gonna get hit no question about it. It doesn't matter if me, Onegu, Skan, or Grack dies as it helps you. | ||
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On October 31 2013 19:27 justanothertownie wrote: Concerning BH as scum - what I don't understand is why they would shoot sno if BH claimed to save him. Why would they do that? It doesn't matter. Sn0 was docced + hit -> he died = doctor lies. + see what Mocsta said. Also see my awesome picture case on Grackaroni which i am awaiting his answer for. | ||
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On October 31 2013 19:32 justanothertownie wrote: If I add what Mocsta said it is possible that BH was unable to save Sno because he was his last save that wasn't roleblocked. yeah but he claimed that hosts said it was okay. which is impossible. | ||
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I changed the action when we figured for sure BH is scum with Mocsta. | ||
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On November 01 2013 06:46 Grackaroni wrote: You do realize in order for me to win as scum I would have to lynch you/Skanjab1s AND Onegu right? I don't care who do you need lynch or who you don't. I wanna know why you know Ongu is town. | ||
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On November 01 2013 06:55 syllogism wrote: Can we go back to lynching Skanjab and end this. It doesn't even matter since it's completely impossible for mafia to win unless I'm mafia. It's not impossible for mafia to win. If they lynch all the unconfirmeds who are town they win. And Grackaroni just said he knows Onegu is town which he cannot possibly know. | ||
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That's right he goes first while i sitll believe Grackaroni has been underperforming so hard this game if he is town. If Skanjabs is scum i must say Grack - you did a fine job tunneling scum without ever trying to lynch them. <3 ##Unvote: ##Vote: Skanjabs | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:05 syllogism wrote: Me and Mocsta can still both self-protect, among other things If that's correct then Skan is probably scum because Grack had conceded already. | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:05 Grackaroni wrote: I'm going to try my very best to ignore that but I make no promises. Like i know i have not been the best townie here because the town has played like shit all game but i find it very weird that you have had him as a scumread since forever. D2 you didn't do anything to push him after your case. D3 you even said Cephiro is sure town and did nothing to push him. D4 idk because CR was bad, D5 Holyflare was reasonable vote but then you suddenly say i am your top scumread over the guy you've been tunneling all game and now you are voting for him again. Makes no sense to me.. | ||
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I Literally told you 5-10 times I wanted you to look at Skanjab and you refused to do it I was pretty sure CR was town when he made his post with numbers andshit. Too bad i thought the deadline was one hour later so i couldn't do anything about it. :/ | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:33 Skanjab1s wrote: No thanks. scum. kill with fire. | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:34 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not trying to pass the blame on to you. It just annoys me how you say I'm underperforming considering how the game has gone from my perspective. The only thing i think you are underperforming for is that you have literall had Skanjabs as your top scumread with a good case on him from D2 and you havn't managed to convince the town to kill him. :D I agree town hasn't helped much in that, especially Cephiro and CR... | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:36 Skanjab1s wrote: Don't be silly rayn, you know I'm not scum. If you are not scum you will roleclaim right now because if you don't you'll get 100% lynched. | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:38 Skanjab1s wrote: That sentence is factually inaccurate because I'm not roleclaiming and I'm not scum. It's accurate in a sense that if you are town and don't do it, you'll get lynched and you are playing against your wincon. I don't give a shit if you are scum and refuse to claim. | ||
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##Vote: Grackaroni Case: + Show Spoiler + ..... ![[image loading]](http://i41.tinypic.com/53ut86.jpg) ..... ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/x2ugb9.jpg) | ||
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On November 01 2013 16:56 Grackaroni wrote: You should notice that I did start changing my mind on BH when Sn0 Man revealed his full role. I didn't have him as town all game. You aren't really one for getting your facts straight though. Interestingly enough it doesn't show from your filter. On November 01 2013 17:11 Grackaroni wrote: Just an fyi, I wouldn't have it in me to save Blazinghand as scum. Guy does nothing as scum every time and gets accused by town. He then claims a role to save himself. He pulls these dumb shenanigans like the "Well I'm survivor, I won't help town at all and I am just going to vote the whoever I think I can lynch besides myself" "I will not be scum hunting" (Don't worry Grack, I'm not giving away any connections) or the "I don't have it in me to play mafia anymore! Marvellosity crushed my spirits..." (I'm sure he did it for the same reason; Hey, now that we killed Sn0 Man I will continue to be useless so that I won't give away any possible hints to my teammates) I would have lynched the fuck out of him lol. Yes and having just played with him as scum you should have seen though his bullshit as town now. And see the above. | ||
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On November 01 2013 17:16 syllogism wrote: Hmm I don't think this means anything syllo, Skanjabs' play on D1 was all well and townie. | ||
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On November 01 2013 17:33 Grackaroni wrote: I've been more right if it is Skanjab. More wrong if it is Onegu. That's WIFOM. I have been more right if it's you. See what i did there? | ||
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On November 01 2013 05:12 You-Know-Who wrote: Blazinghand as Blaise Zabini was killed. + Show Spoiler + You are the arrogant Blaise Zabini. You don’t like to dirty your own hands, therefore twice in the game you may cast the Imperius Curse which allows you to make the targeted player carry out a night action for your team. PM the host with ##Imperio: XY. You win with Scum. Remember that the day phase now only lasts 24 hours! Who was a tracker/watcher? | ||
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My track is shitty anyways. | ||
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I hope syllo & Mocsta actually read his filter before daypost in case they die.. | ||
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I found something interesting: A self-aware miller can in no way be a squib but apparently a guy with an extra vote can, right Grackaroni? | ||
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I will candy Onegu. 66% chance i will prove my power to be true (if he gets canary or weak track). 33% chance he gets roleblock / 0.5KP We lynch Grackaroni the scum and win the game. In case Grackaroni is somehow a squib-i-da-doo we have either: 1) I have proved my power and we lynch Onegu 2) Onegu is roleblocked the next night, or takes 0.5KP. 2.1) If he decides to take 0.5 KP there is a chance JAT gets another 0.5 KP power and can shoot Onegu and we win, you can even lynch me then. Sounds good? | ||
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We ask hosts to clarify the flavor and how the powers work. We decide the role is really really bad and useless. We curse candy. I say we dedicate this game to try to hit on Hermione, guess is Pandain. That will make Harry Potter (Vayne) jealous. We discuss the pick up line. Koshi asks what do i think of VA. I say from QT VA town, Pandain slight town, Ceph scum, other ppl no idea. Koshi disagrees with VA, because he gave Pandain a townread on nothing. We decide to pressure Cephiro. I say ET and Palmar probably good lynches if Ceph proves his towniness somehow. Koshi agrees. I say i think actually Palmar is town. Koshi disagrees, i tell him why Palmar is town (LA's post in thread) We discuss Vayne's role because he said "i fucked Harry Potter" in thread, Koshi says probably Ginny Weasley. Koshi asks if i think LA is marv, i say i don't care who LA is atm. I tell Cephiro's play is 100% like in Noir. Koshi says we will lynch Cephiro, i say i am at LAN-party and can't be doing much - good idea. Koshi says StorrZerg good lynch too. I ask wtf happened with Palmar lynch and am mad. Koshi says dnu. I am mad because i told Palmar is town and should have not been lynched. I tell my thoughts on Koshi's post in thread, where he says Mocsta,Storr,Matt,Ceph,JAT scum. I say i agree but not on Mocsta and Storr. I tell him i will look into them on D2. Koshi says Matt might be scum because the D1 wagon on him that was odd. I say Pandain has gone to his scum!mode. I say see Pandain was scum rofl. Koshi has no idea what to do and wants to wait for the vets to figure it out. I ask why is our vote on BH, Koshi says he wants BH to do shit and pressure worked on Cephiro. Koshi says Stutters is suspicious because marv was bitter of him in their QT. Cephiro needs to die but need to pressure other people first. He reads HF & Sno as town. Grack no scum but maybe SK. I am confused because i did not know LA & Stutters were masons, Koshi explains. Koshi is mad on Matt & Storr because something is off there. Koshi proposes what if Storr fakes coprole and when Matt turns red he will be "cleared". I say let's kill Cephiro. I say Storr seems town and Matt is useless but he was useless in Noir aswell. Koshi talks more about his conspiracy theory on Matt/Storr. I say Cephiro does a townie thing in our house QT. We are confused how Cephiro knows our rolename and about candy. I tell Koshi i will ask Cephiro about it in house QT. We hope Cephiro has power to make our bad candy a good one. We troll about candy bacause so bad. We talk about challenge. Koshi asks me about Ceph, i say i think he is town because of his ploy in house QT seems like Aperture play. I say maybe we vote for yamato/CR. Then i say no we vote for Stutters but tell Koshi to be ready to switch to CR if shennies at the end of phase. Koshi thinks Vayne is scum again because not posting. We talk about maybe giving candy to vayne. We talk about reads, decide scum in Matt,Onegu,JAT,Vayne,Hopeless, CR. We talk about who to give candy, decide Grack because he is vanilla and we might try to abuse it. I think Grack claims scum when he goes from: "THIS GUYS IS SCUM, AND THIS GUY IS SCUM" to: "I dunno, maybe it's your fakeclaim? I am vanilla". I call bullshit in his tone. I get mad because people called my reads bad in thread. I don't want to play anymore. Koshi tells me to calm down. I tell Koshi to look into this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...urrentpage=170#3392 which is bullshit. Koshi asks if Grack is scum, i say yes. I ask why there was no NK on N2, Koshi explains Mocsta roleblocked BH so he is scum but more likely he got hit and Sno docced him. I tell Grack makes really bad arguments on us, Koshi agrees. We discuss challenge. Koshi loves blue roles in this game, except one.. Ron "Candy" Trashley. Koshi is sad. Koshi has idea for a t-shirt: I played Hogwarts Mafia and all i got were those lousy candies. Koshi says i need not to do dumb shit, calm down, and we need to lynch Holyflare. I say i do not get lynched as town. We discuss who to give candy. We decide to eat candy ourselves. Koshi says Grack and BH may be scum. I say i think CR might be town for his post with numers and LYLO and shit because it's so off. Koshi gets modkilled. I start writing a diary. Once.. maybe twice a day. Wanna hear that too? | ||
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On November 02 2013 18:18 Mocsta wrote: Hes been queried about this about 3 or 4 times. Its WIFOM (but i agree with you) Why is it wifom? A guy who is not vanilla cannot be squib but another guy not vanilla can. | ||
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