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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#234
For filter.
Koshi out, this in!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#312
Hi all.
I suggest we lynch somebody from Slytherin.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#324
On October 17 2013 05:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:34 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hi all.
I suggest we lynch somebody from Slytherin.

Suggestions?

Draco
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#325
Damn I don't really know the English names.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#327
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:43 GMT
#337
^ what was your pickup line?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:49 GMT
#341
On October 17 2013 06:47 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
^ what was your pickup line?


you realize that i was asking you a question... do you?

I'll put it in there as well. No worries.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:50 GMT
#342
Why are you voting Cephiro?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 21:57 GMT
#351
On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote:
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On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.


There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch.

There are 6 scummers and 4 Houses.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:01 GMT
#358
Skanjab1s

On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall.


"guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House'


On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.


There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch.

"guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are"
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:04 GMT
#360
I guess you can also add from QT
"guis I am town because I have no clue how the scums are divided between the Houses"
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:07 GMT
#363
On October 17 2013 07:04 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Skanjab1s

On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall.


"guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House'

You know the compositions of each house, huh?

1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House?
2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:10 GMT
#368
On October 17 2013 07:09 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:04 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Skanjab1s

On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall.


"guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House'

You know the compositions of each house, huh?

1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House?
2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum?


1) Duh
2) You are trying to make it seem as if I'm asking these questions to pretend that I don't know the answers. Calling me scum for asking what house someone is in is retarded.

Twice the right answer. New question:

1) Why are you twisting my words and pretending that I just scumslipped when you knew the purpose behind my post?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:12 GMT
#369
4) "guis I am town because I catch onto scumslips"
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:19 GMT
#376
On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote:
Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely.

I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum.

skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him?

rayn will sign his posts.
Also we will be a beacon of towniness. Don't worry about us.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:25 GMT
#381
On October 11 2013 04:20 FirmTofu wrote:
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On October 10 2013 21:22 I-be-Pro wrote:
I don't think I ever thought about this earlier but is the no-editing-rule enforced in quicktopics as well? It's not in mafia-QT's, for obvious reasons, and people edit stuff frequently in those but is it allowed to edit stuff in the house-QT's we'll get later on?

I assume quoting from house QT's insn't allowed, right? As with anything it's fine as long as paraphrased but not actual copy&pasted stuff, correct? This kind of has something to do with the above question but I just want to be sure about this before the game starts

Yes, editing is enforced in the House QTs but not in the Scum QTs.

That is correct, quoting from House QTs is prohibited but paraphrasing is fine.

^
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:28 GMT
#386
hahahaha

plz tell the thread why you are certain I am scum.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 22:50 GMT
#399
On October 17 2013 07:32 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
hahahaha

plz tell the thread why you are certain I am scum.


Are you talking to me?

Where did I call you scum at all?


On October 17 2013 07:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:09 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:04 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Skanjab1s

On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall.


"guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House'

You know the compositions of each house, huh?

1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House?
2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum?


1) Duh
2) You are trying to make it seem as if I'm asking these questions to pretend that I don't know the answers. Calling me scum for asking what house someone is in is retarded.

Twice the right answer. New question:

1) Why are you twisting my words and pretending that I just scumslipped when you knew the purpose behind my post?


I wasn't, your asking for the purpose behind the post made me realise it. When you said "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" it implied that you knew how many scum there are(and you do). So for the "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House" it also implied that you knew who was in each house.

When you asked me for the purpose I realised that it was not the case for the latter quote.

The bolded?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 16 2013 23:18 GMT
#425
On October 17 2013 08:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Theres a certain amount of scum motivation to not trying the pickup line challenge simply because you feel like another house could be influenced more easily by scum. Since a scum player would know which house had the most scummers in it (and/or the least strong town)

What is the scum motivation by saying it in the QT that you won't participate? He can always hide that fact.

imo saying you won't participate is null and probably a ploy to get reactions or something. Let's see how he follows up.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:01 GMT
#578
On October 17 2013 19:17 Onegu wrote:
The hydra really needs to say who is actually writeing, I am very confident in my ability to read koshi as I have pegged him in every game we have played, but I dont read rayne well. I also dont have a problem with people not wanting to win the contest. I dont think it is scummy just anti town. I am going to reread some people after dinner.

rayn will sign his posts. But don't expect too many posts from him.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:03 GMT
#579
In other news. VA is playing his scum meta in the QT.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:13 GMT
#584
On October 17 2013 20:04 LastArgument wrote:
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On October 17 2013 20:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
In other news. VA is playing his scum meta in the QT.


What is his scum meta? This statement is useless without qualification.

Yeah true, but he hasn't posted enough so I'll keep it for myself for a while. Let's say I put a strong FoS on him and you can call me out on it later.

Cephiro said the chance that he skimmed the thread but nothing too bad happened, that there is a 91% chance that 6 scummers are in 2 houses or less (I guess he means 9%), and that keeping things in QT only is beneficial for mafia for that reason.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:15 GMT
#585
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:18 GMT
#589
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:23 GMT
#592
On October 17 2013 20:20 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


you didn't think about my vote at all or did you?
The issue i have with you is, that I think you don't care that much about the things going on in here.
You care about participating at the discussion. Not so much about the outcome.

Cephiro is in my House so there is really 0 reasons for you to vote him except gain silly reactions.
Pretty sure I went after skanjab yesterday so I/ others could get a read on him.

What do you think of Pandain his opening post?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:28 GMT
#593
On October 17 2013 20:22 LastArgument wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


How do you view Skanjab at the moment? Do you believe in what you wrote about him still, or what? If you're convinced that it was bad, what was it that convinced you of this?

Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad.
Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:34 GMT
#595
On October 17 2013 20:31 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:22 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


How do you view Skanjab at the moment? Do you believe in what you wrote about him still, or what? If you're convinced that it was bad, what was it that convinced you of this?

Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad.
Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that.

This is not at all the conclusion you make for the skepticism. No one has strong feelings regarding Skanjab's alignment based on the few posts he has made so far and he could definitely be mafia. If you think he is mafia you should be pursuing him. I'm not sure what to make of your attitude as the whole "drop all suspicions immediately" is bordering too suspicious to actually be mafia territory.

I am not dropping all suspicion. I am dropping my previous line of thinking out of the reasons why I think he is scum.

What do you think of Pandain opening post?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 11:55 GMT
#597
Hmm. People look quite good.

Worst filter is probably Zaragon.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 12:23 GMT
#599
On October 17 2013 21:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:22 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


How do you view Skanjab at the moment? Do you believe in what you wrote about him still, or what? If you're convinced that it was bad, what was it that convinced you of this?

Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad.
Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that.


You say that you initially went after me to get a read on me, and you also say that I'm not a townread for you, then why would you not want to pursue me further? I am either a null read, in which case you should want to continue in your initial intention, or I am a scumread and you should want to get me lynched. Either way, hoping for others to attack me for you while you sit back isn't very protown.

Well I think there are more towns in here that can pressure you. I'll watch you.
But atm I think there are others worth pressuring.

What do you think about Zaragon, Mr. Snowman and VA? Small filters I know.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 14:16 GMT
#614
On October 17 2013 22:58 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Toad is talking about Fruity and/or BangBang mafia. marv's comment was fruity iirc, but both of them were smurfs. Weird game, that one.


skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly.

VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case.

##Vote: VayneAuthority


That was not the only point in the case, but I disagree, it comes off as "testing the waters" which is inherently scummy. I am also not under the impression that VA was trolling yam, I thought that the "Expelliarmus" was an ability of his.
VA could you clarify, please?

He said in House QT it was a joke to see "yamato worried"
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 14:22 GMT
#620
Damn, I was hoping VA would come back to the thread faster than yamato D:
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 14:31 GMT
#626
On October 17 2013 23:24 Zaragon wrote:
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On October 17 2013 20:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hmm. People look quite good.

Worst filter is probably Zaragon.


Knowing it's Koshi writing, the rapid change of subjects and reads fits your town playstyle reasonably well. But you do seem less curious and more suprious than I've seen you before. Don't know what to make of that, so null right now.

What is "worst filter" about? If you're just comparing me to my Newbie XVIII play, fair enough, I'm not in shape to play that way at the moment. I still don't see "worst", and are you talking about my play level or calling me scummy?

On Mocsta, so far I'm getting the same vibe I had early Noir, towny by personality read with some suspicious hints. I'll put a light town lean on him. Honestly, maybe more than light, considering how that game turned out.

On skanjab1s, it wouldn't be an obvious choice to make a case on yamato if he's scum. The quality of the case is decent, but I'm still expecting a yamato wall of text coming soon whether he's town or scum and I'll only be able to put a read on yamato together when I compare his early probing with his analysis.

I did a meta dive on skanjab1s, he's playing similarly to his town game except slightly less content per post until his yamato case. I'd say he falls into the newer player range; it makes slightly more sense to know he's played a couple of games under different names and thus is not quite a smurf and not quite a new player.

Out of game note: + Show Spoiler +
Will need a replace if I can't fix something with meds in the next ~2 hours. Sorry guys

It's that you made 2 posts and they were solely about skanjab & me. And the part about me was: "I wont be able to read rayn/koshi this game" and after that "oh ok, maybe I can read rayn/Koshi after all". But there was no effort into trying to read me. But it is good that you followed up on that now.
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#631
Why are you still watching me? I am being a good boy atm.
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#632
how do you feel about VA disappearing after you voted him?
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October 17 2013 14:39 GMT
#636
Yeah, putting some votes on VA is never bad.

##unvote
##vote: Vayne
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October 17 2013 15:15 GMT
#672
Yeah but he I think he believes it.
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#673
^ about Toad vs Yamato.
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October 17 2013 16:13 GMT
#684
Hi guys!
I like this. There are many townies like:
Holyflare, Pandain, yamato, Vayne, syllogism, supersoft, skanjab, Toad. Dunno if i missed someone.

Then Koshi put our vote on the wrong place.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Cephiro

This guy is not getting away with same shit he did in Noire for 3 days.

-rayn
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October 17 2013 16:36 GMT
#690
Hey yamato & LA, Vayne is in our QT. I just learned that Koshi's scumread on Vayne was this:
1) arrogantly claimed town
2) gave away townread for Pandain first post (which is good but not nearly close to 100% town material)
3) Gave reasons why Grack could be either town or scum and didn't give away what he was leaning on.

I don't agree with this making Vayne scum and not having been here i had no opportunity to discuss this with Koshi until now. We are in the middle of it right now. I really do think Vayne's attitude is town!Vayneish. atm i do not care what he says. I care about how he says stuff, especially on D1.

-rayn
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October 17 2013 16:38 GMT
#693
Oh i forgot something.
EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got?

-rayn
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#709
Both of you shut up already.
yamato this is not helping.

Vote for Cephiro

-rayn
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#717
The Koshi part of the Hydra agrees. But like you said yourself yamato. I am the bad part D:
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#727
On October 18 2013 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
it is physically incapable for me to be mafia anyhow, I am one of the main characters. the one that banged harry potter. zer0 chance of me being mafia until a scum flips with a good guy name. I doubt that will happen tho.

Wasn't the sis of Ron quite awkward love story wise? She might be scummer in a love story themed Harry Potter game. That being said, you just going to hide behind adhom and your character name?

I remember you being very pro friendlyness in Thug Life.
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#732
This is the last time i say this:
On October 12 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 23:48 phagga wrote:
Also, I think some towns are hard to lead. While most townies are looking for a leader (which makes them susceptible to scum manipulations), there are some who want to do just their own thing. Vayne is a good example of the latter, and I think you wasted too much time trying to get him to do more (after all, you know how he plays) while also being unnecessary aggressive towards him. It was ok that you started ignoring him for a while, but you should have done that much earlier and concentrate on other players.

This is what most people go wrong with Vayne. That just doesn't work. He does stuff and interacts with you if you do it right. But never ever be aggressive or threaten him. He is usually quite spot on with his reads but how to interact with him is the question here, and being aggressive is not the answer.

Now stop it. If you think he is mafia, vote for him and give your reasons (hint: he's not) but don't do this what you are doing atm yamato and Pandain.

-rayn
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October 17 2013 17:46 GMT
#733
So Cephiro has now made 4 posts in house QT. One was a setup speculation post that he could have posted in thread aswell. Three other posts are attacking me and Pandain for calling him out for posting in QT but not in thread (Cephiro posted twice as much in scum QT than in thread in Noir). What gives?

-rayn
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#759
There are 4 people under replacement :O
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October 17 2013 19:25 GMT
#765
AGAIN WITH THAT SHIT???
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October 17 2013 19:27 GMT
#770
But ok. It's his Birthday.
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#772
On October 18 2013 04:27 Blazinghand wrote:
PS i literally haven't read the thread or know anything ok bye

You will still die n1. Sorry.
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#776
On October 18 2013 04:36 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
im glad we sent some one to the champion game where his best contribution so far recently has been advocating spite lynches and getting lynched day 1 as town, 2 str0ng



how is this in anyway helpful? Vayne plzzzzzzzzzz
shit happens move on lets lynch Sn0_man? ok?

can't be the only one who reads him as scum.

He hasn't posted yet...
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October 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#786
Pandain do you remember Cephiro's big rant post in Noir N1? He's definitely capable of doing this as scum.
Mostly i don't like the fact that he posts in QT and not in thread. When i tell him to go post in thread instead of the QT what he does? Posts more into the QT about how shitty my/Pandain's scumread on him is. That's not how you prove your towniness, all this could be well if he just posted here, gave some thoughts about something. Instead he has been only defending himself and continuing doing the same thing he's been called out for. His last post in the QT implies he is reading the thread. It's been 2,5 hours. I am waiting for some amazing analysis from him.

-rayn
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October 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#787
Oh look LastArgument is town!

-rayn
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#822
But Grack, Palmar is probably town...

-rayn
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#831
How do we feel about StorrZerg and his case on the Snowman? For me Mr Snowman is null to light scummy at best.
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#835
On October 18 2013 06:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi thread. I am still not completely caught up and won't manage to do so this evening. I will constantly be active for several hours well before deadline when I arrive at home tomorrow. That's a promise.

Can you tell us a little bit about what you are thinking?
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October 17 2013 22:06 GMT
#847
Cephiro could you elaborate on your weaker scumreads as soon as possible. I am interested in seeing what you have to say because i know/think everyone of them are town.

I agree with your read on Matt & Storr though. I do not think it necessarily makes Matt scum, as he was pretty useless in Noir, do you remember it?

-rayn
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#850
On October 18 2013 07:06 LastArgument wrote:
That post from Cephiro looks ok. Probably enough for him to live today, pending him actually doing other things later as well.

Remind me to talk about this tomorrow if i forget. There is something i need to check regarding his post.

-rayn
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#854
Actually LA scratch it. Compare Cephiro's filters from scum!Noir and town!Aperture. Which one does his post look like?
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#856
On October 18 2013 07:20 LastArgument wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 07:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Actually LA scratch it. Compare Cephiro's filters from scum!Noir and town!Aperture. Which one does his post look like?


I'm not going to go read other games right now, but the post looks markedly less whiny than the posts I read in LXII.

You would be surprised about the amount of "whiny" there is in our house QT from him..
You just need to read the first page of Ceph in Aperture. Here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424349&user=Cephiro
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#857
EBWOP: Last post from:

-rayn
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October 17 2013 23:56 GMT
#865
There is a growing trend of "this guy might look bad here in thread but he looks good in house QT". I hate that. Same thing happened in GoT where people "cleared" other people by their contributions in house QT's. Easy for scum to call people out even if they look town in QT's, people need to post in thread and look town. ffs.

-rayn
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October 18 2013 01:09 GMT
#873
Stutters is capable of making good posts as town. We should lynch him if he does not contribute.
Palmar's "apathy" seems like town!Palmar. I can't really explain that better at this point.
I have no idea of Sno, i always want to lynch him. Need to see more from him.

-rayn
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#874
So HF (or anyone else) what do you make of Cephiro making one post here and 7 posts in our house QT explaining why he has not posted or why he posted what he did or what he is about to post next?

-rayn
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October 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#883
Sno, why is ET town?

-rayn
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#888
Why would a competitive player like you claim blue half past D1 ET?

-rayn
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October 18 2013 02:29 GMT
#892
EchelonTee i agree on Onegu being sketchy as hell. I don't like his multiple apologies. Right now i want to pressure Cephiro into posting something that's not 90% fluff. Onegu is a good candidate for a lynch.

This is about Ceph i wrote in our house QT:
The problem with Cephiro is that he is not interested in finding mafia. He is more interested in explaining himself. This is something that i associate with scum. Everything said about him could be debunked by him posting in thread and finding scum instead of him explaining his actions to us here. This is something i have not seen him do as town, and i have seen him do this as scum. I hope i am being clear enough.

Does someone disagree with me on this?

Meta on Sn0 suggests town.

ET one question; You seem to be angry? Why?

-rayn
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#895
On October 18 2013 11:48 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn, for Ceph, he did both in his 1 post. He explained and pointed out targets that he thought were scum. Isn't that just a confusion of the two traits you said he displayed as both factions?

More importantly, has he been active in the QT since his big post?

Explained what he posted and why he posted it his reads -- elaborated a bit more on some oh his reads. like wtf, why not post in thread?
Then he told why he will not post for a while and elaborated a bit on reads on Holy/Skan. again wtf, why not post that in thread?

Cephiro's posting seems far more restricted and does not feel genuine in comparsion to Aperture.

-rayn
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#1056
For some reason I cannot read and think at the same time today. Cephiro can save himself by posting. After that Palmar would be my second choice.
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#1061
The amounts of sad I will be when we lynch BH and he flips town...
I can't take the risk.
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#1062
Nobody should. Why not wait till day 3. BH being alive is a case on itself.
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#1094
I was looking at which wagon I liked the least and it is the "not yet voting" one.
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#1100
Yeah you came back to the thread okay. You shouldn't be too worried.
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#1110
I agree. sn0 is a worse lynch than cephiro.
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#1114
I am just waiting with anticipation what Cephiro will say when he comes back. When he says:
1) guys I have not read the thread because yabayabayabayaba.
2) I am putting my vote on snowman because I am town.

If it is either of these 2 or both we lynch him no matter what.
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October 18 2013 16:58 GMT
#1115
3) If he doesn't come back we also lynch him.

Deal guys?
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October 18 2013 17:01 GMT
#1118
I think Snodude is a bad lynch.
Cephiro good.
Listen to Syllo if you can't decide on your own, he has had pretty good arguments. I am at LAN-party so Koshi will handle this, i think we are mostly on the same page besides not having been online at the same times for ~18h.

-rayn
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October 18 2013 17:01 GMT
#1119
On October 19 2013 02:00 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
For some reason I cannot read and think at the same time today. Cephiro can save himself by posting. After that Palmar would be my second choice.


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I am just waiting with anticipation what Cephiro will say when he comes back. When he says:
1) guys I have not read the thread because yabayabayabayaba.
2) I am putting my vote on snowman because I am town.

If it is either of these 2 or both we lynch him no matter what.


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
3) If he doesn't come back we also lynch him.

Deal guys?


I just want to save this. I cannot follow your thoughtprocess.

Well, if Cephiro comes back and posts properly we don't lynch him. Otherwise we lynch him.

What is so hard to understand?
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October 18 2013 17:02 GMT
#1121
On October 19 2013 02:00 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
For some reason I cannot read and think at the same time today. Cephiro can save himself by posting. After that Palmar would be my second choice.


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I am just waiting with anticipation what Cephiro will say when he comes back. When he says:
1) guys I have not read the thread because yabayabayabayaba.
2) I am putting my vote on snowman because I am town.

If it is either of these 2 or both we lynch him no matter what.


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
3) If he doesn't come back we also lynch him.

Deal guys?


I just want to save this. I cannot follow your thoughtprocess.

He is saying that because that's exactly what Cephiro did in Noire where he was scum. Promises that were broken over and over again because he had no idea what to do as scum.

-rayn
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#1125
^ Start with placing a vote as soon as possible.
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October 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#1138
Sn0_Man
Do you have any scumreads besides Vayne/Stutters or did those change over time?
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October 18 2013 17:31 GMT
#1145
On October 19 2013 02:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Why did you think Palmar is town again Rayn? He clearly does care about getting lynched and threw in some more Mocsta nonsense to save himself but doesn't give a shit about scum hunting.

On October 18 2013 06:21 LastArgument wrote:
No, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Scum-Palmar isn't usually this brazen about not participating. I challenge you to find a single game where he basically starts off by happily telling people he's not read the thread and maybe he'll participate, maybe not.

Doesn't make him town, but your argument is a bad one.

This is the reason rayn gave me. I think rayn townread has to do with meta.
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#1149
On October 19 2013 02:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 02:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sn0_Man
Do you have any scumreads besides Vayne/Stutters or did those change over time?

Don't think I ever called vayne scum. Could lynch him for troll but I like that less after mulling it over since considering the game's I've played with him when he was scum he was much more conciliatory and "working together" with the thread, and when he was town he was really abrasive and never really felt the need to do cases or working together stuff.

Stutters is just afk. However, people who feel the need to elaborate everything in RL that is preventing them from posting flip scum most of the time in my experience. I dislike Skanjab and SuperSoft atm but thats mostly just omgus. I'm as happy with the Cephiro lynch as I think I would be with anybody else today barring something popping up so I'm on him.

That's not really much now is it?
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October 18 2013 17:42 GMT
#1155
I like you, LastArgument. Dnu if it is related to Grack saying you are marv.
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October 18 2013 18:09 GMT
#1169
On October 19 2013 03:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:06 Stutters695 wrote:
Now, what I make of Ceph's qt posts.

First post: Accomplishes nothing pro-town.

What stands out most to me is his excuses for not posting/reading the thread yet he takes the time to run the statistics. There were other topics he could have spent that time with, but he picks the one with the obvious answer instead where he can't screw up.

He then stalls by raging at Rayn/Pandain for pushing him.The main thing I take from that exchange is his rage felt very forced, like he was defending his ability to lurk. I'd expect him as town to acknowledge his lurking but explain it and move on. Their thoughts on him had merit, but I didn't take much notice of it until he blew up in the qt.

I've got to drive home now so getting this out there. I'll go over some stuff when I'm back.


Can someone else from the same house comment on how accurate this assessment is?

It's very true.
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October 18 2013 18:27 GMT
#1176
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.
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October 18 2013 18:27 GMT
#1177
On October 19 2013 03:27 syllogism wrote:
Sigh, this lynch is way too easy, but we can always blame it on Rayn

Blame it on the left head.
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October 18 2013 18:36 GMT
#1185
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".

You have posted fucking three times in total! That's not close to "posting every 5 minutes".
What the fuck are you doing?

-rayn
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October 18 2013 18:39 GMT
#1187
Cephiro i would be okay if you participated in the discussions going on in thread instead of making one big fluff post that says 90% nothing at all. Instead you decide to dedicate the time you have into throwing shit at us on house QT for voting for you. That's not townie behavior. At all.

-rayn
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#1227
rofl. the balls on you Ceph to trow a tantrum like this after contributing twice to the game in 48 hours.
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October 18 2013 19:21 GMT
#1237
I am actually upset on how this Cephiro kiddo comes back and blames everything and everyone because we are lynching his ass after 1 contribution in 48 hours.

10 minutes. Let's see if he can make 2 contribution before getting lynched.
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October 18 2013 19:22 GMT
#1238
On October 19 2013 04:20 Blazinghand wrote:
hi im late for lunch and hung over do you need me for shenannies?

Nha, we are ok.
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October 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#1241
laters.
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#1245
On October 19 2013 04:16 Mocsta wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19840059

this is so de ja vu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20004765
Thats where i saw it.

Very similar to how he talks about Palmar and then Syllo.

Note: Kush was scum and JAT was town... does this mean palmar is scum and syllo town?

This is really freaky the similarity.. my vote isn't moving.

That's what i have been fucking saying all the time.

-rayn
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 18 2013 19:35 GMT
#1260
Well I am willing to move off Cephiro.
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October 18 2013 19:41 GMT
#1272
##unvote
##vote: StorrZerg


He and Mattchew are actually people I don't really like. I am liking Cephiro now. But only because of those notes.

Cephiro: 1 fucking post is not enough, stop whining about we metaing you when it is the only thing we have when you decide to bitch and whine 24/7 and make 1 good post in 47 hours.
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October 18 2013 19:44 GMT
#1279
On October 19 2013 04:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Don't lynch Mattchew or Storrzerg

Why??
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 18 2013 19:45 GMT
#1283
Also, about the incoming modkills. I hope you guys decide to warn them. Palmar made a vote on Mocsta in this thread. I didn't check the others.
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October 18 2013 19:46 GMT
#1291
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)

LastArgument was feeling a town Mattchew. So I am not going Mattchew.
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October 18 2013 20:11 GMT
#1349
so wtf ?

-rayn
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October 18 2013 20:15 GMT
#1361
This lynch was so fucking awful.

-rayn
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October 19 2013 04:04 GMT
#1467
Someone plz vig the shit out of Cephiro if we have a vig other than the one you lynched...

-rayn
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October 19 2013 16:05 GMT
#1500
Everything started 30 minutes before deadline when Cephiro decided to post his notes. I felt an instant urge to remove my vote from Cephiro after his notes. I can only imagine that scum also felt that Cephiro lynch was not going to happen and that they needed to present a new target so that we didn't vote a scummember away. If Cephiro is scum this was probably premeditated and the new wagon should form quite cleanely. Let's keep an eye out for that as well.

Shit goes down here:
On October 19 2013 04:30 Cephiro wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Okay so.. I'm happy that I'm good enough to play with the same style as both scum and town and having them viable.
I'm sad that established TL-players are so confident in their "meta-gaming skills". Maybe they'll learn one day. Maybe. I remember being sad about it over a year ago when I went to the army. I guess things don't change that much.

Someone asked me about my opinion on the Sn0_Man lynch, I personally think it's a mislynch. The flaws in his play are that he hasn't been very committal nor active at scumhunting, but the way he responds to pressure and says his opinions make me think he's town. As well as the fact that even though he is on my wagon, he doesn't seem to be very content with it. (Of course a townie has to put his vote somewhere, and scum pushed me up well enough to not leave many other options.)

It seems like players haven't even considered other options properly. Someone suggested I should die, painted me to look a little worse than what I really am due to my lack of activity, and boom, case closed. Train full speed ahead.

Gonna post all my reads now since I'm not very positive about myself surviving. Even though I am a main character, I don't consider my role extremely powerful, so maybe a worse mislynch may get prevented if anything.

Since time is short, this is a straight copypaste from my notepad file. This is up to date to my first post only (page 42-ish), but holds very true.

+ Show Spoiler +

Hogwarts Mafia

Player list by house:
*******************
Gryffindor:
*******************
1. Cephiro - Towniest Town Alive
Give coin to Toad

3. Pandain - Probably Town

5. VayneAuthority (Ginny Weasley?) - Bad start in thread. Puts time into setup speculation.
Fishes for reaction from yamato, tbh I like. Plays too ignorantly.

6. raynpelikonoshi - Pushes at start for bad reasons. Ugh. Why not push if you could?
Too wishywashy. Makes me look bad on purpose.

18. Stutters695 - Null/Lurk

20. justanothertownie - super null

********************
Slytherin: Active QT
********************
2. Sn0_Man - Good points. Sharp. Fluff.

7. EchelonTee - Wants to hear from Mattchew, good pickup. Good points.
Shares his house, late in the game. Valid points. Defends himself properly.

12. I-be-Pro - Seems ok, good points. Pro-town. Setup speculation.
Thinks his role is anti-town.

14. Skanjab1s - Suspicious question in QT, good logic but false example.
Ambigious answers. Defends rayko after pressured by him. Tries hard.
Crap. Not useful. wants to fill? Seems like he gets helped by scumbuddies.

16. Blazinghand

19. Mocsta - Self-aware Miller claim. Seems like town. Would fit within theme.
(Good guy Slytherin looks bad because Slytherin?) Plays pro-town. Coin?

*********************
Hufflepuff: G+2H lots of discussion in topic instead of QT.. good thing?
*********************
4. Grackaroni - Suspicious about his own house. Town w/ hopeless?
Wants to stay under the radar. Town blue? Too easy townread on yamato.

8. Mattchew - Almost insta-jump on miller claim, nothing else. Weird..
Random jump to talk with yamato, nothing else. Weirder..
Just like really bad. Addresses all points made on him, but poorly.

11. Palmar - Jumps in to question Mocsta claim, nothing else.
Sticks to that. Nothing else. EXTREMELY useless. Too focused on claim.

21. Hopeless1der - A bit more careful in the G+2H discussion. Town?
Interesting ability speculation. Reasonable in his opinions. Coin?
Maybe not very tricky?

22. Holyflare - Seemingly ok attitude about QT, weird defense on Skanjab1s
Very concentrated on Grack/Hopeless about not competing. A bit too trigger-happy?
Interesting opinion about not caring about what scum does?

23. StorrZerg - Asked about how much mafia in where. Same as Skanjab1s
Seems to be chiming in for irrelevant stuff. Random Sn0_Man accusation.

*********************
Ravenclaw:
*********************

9. Onegu - Useless, too many sorries or truly busy?

10. LoneMeow -

13. syllogism - Setup post that he claims useless, doesn't make much sense.
Points things out favourably for his opinion. (Ignores StorrZerg comment.)
Good points when it doesn't hurt mafia play.

15. supersoft - generally good vibe

17. LastArgument - Valid point, I like. Coin?

24. yamato77 - Just bad, shares information related to activity only.
Filler activity. Does, doesn't. Notices Matt's buddying attempt, good.
Wants himself to be analysed. Not pro-mafia.

+ Show Spoiler +
REDACTED


Suggestions(Townreads):
LastArgument
Hopeless1der
Mocsta
EchelonTee
Pandain
I-be-Pro

Scum:
StorrZerg
Mattchew


Maybe?:
rayko
holyflare
syllo
Palmar
VayneAuthority
skanjab1s



The first one to get his vote off Cephiro is sn0man.
On October 19 2013 04:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Stutters

Apologies for not giving stutter's full name but it wasn't in the post count and i'm lazy

There is NOTHING in the thread to explain this change and he moves to one of his "scumreads". Snowman has no reads this game but decided to go off Cephiro as first, not pushing an or his alternative. Hmm. I don't really like it.
On October 19 2013 04:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
What is this coin stuff (I assume it has to do with your role?)

Second to get his vote off Cephiro am I. I had to leave for soccer in 9 minutes and felt like StorrZerg was the better lynch
On October 19 2013 04:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: StorrZerg


He and Mattchew are actually people I don't really like. I am liking Cephiro now. But only because of those notes.

Cephiro: 1 fucking post is not enough, stop whining about we metaing you when it is the only thing we have when you decide to bitch and whine 24/7 and make 1 good post in 47 hours.


With 15 minutes to go we get following votes:
On October 19 2013 04:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
deal with palmar tomorrow please. especially if he's going to get himself modkilled, but I'd rather give him a chance to try instead of last-minute hammering him. I also dislike mocsta insisting we lynch the guy who has been replaced, but I guess thats just me.
##Unvote


Will end up on Stutters
On October 19 2013 04:46 I-be-Pro wrote:
##unvote
##vote palmar


That notesheet doesn't fit the reason we're lynching Ceph for.


On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

reason:
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)

and afterwards when mattchew gets traction:
On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Mattchew



Holyflare makes a case on Mattchew in the thread and votes accordingly:
On October 19 2013 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew

People sheep:
On October 19 2013 04:49 Mocsta wrote:
##Vote: MAttchew

On October 19 2013 04:50 Onegu wrote:
##VOTE MATTCHEW

On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Mattchew


Now 8 fucking minutes before deadline it gets interesting. Remember kids: There was not much time left and Holyflare might have forced scum to show face with his case

Mocsta moves off Mattchew AFTER 2 more people vote Mattchew and withing 3 minutes after his previous vote!!!!!
On October 19 2013 04:52 Mocsta wrote:
##unvote
##vote: blazinghand


And look at this. Cephiro his first vote and preffered lynch target was Mattchew. Guess what suddenly happens:
On October 19 2013 04:54 Cephiro wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar

This is not to save himself like Cephiro first used as reason to vote Palmar. This looks like trying to save Mattchew. The guy HE WANTS TO LYNCH. This happens 4 minutes after he votes for his favorite lynch of the day....

On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Joins the Palmar lynch. Reason:
On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote:
I'm going back on what I said earlier about Palmar and voting to lynch him.

Plus I like to sheep syllogism.

Cephiro, if you're pulling this bullshit as mafia, I'll be distinctly unimpressed, and you will not be allowed to skirt by not contributing during the next cycle.

Would prefer to kill Palmar than Mattchew, we're not losing an asset in Palmar if he's not willing to play, and I don't like the fact that Palmar is avoiding syllogism

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

The fact that LastArgument states that he is going against his earlier read is towny imo. Also, his town read on syllo was correct.

On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Look at the indecision of JAT
On October 19 2013 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
##unvote

On October 19 2013 04:44 justanothertownie wrote:
I would switch to palmar.

On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters.

On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Now because I think that Mattchew is scum I am really disliking JAT atm.

On October 19 2013 04:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:56 Holyflare wrote:
Also, Mocsta, as for a BH lynch, I checked into your meta points and they made a little bit of sense, but nothing that I could see as damning evidence. Although I haven't played with him so can't entirely get the feel for it so it's harder for me, yet, BH is a person who I see as very towny when he posts so I would get a better feel for him, say, on day 2 than straight up lynching him now.

Fine
##Unvote
##Vote: palmar

See, I don't like Mocsta at all anymore. He goes from Mattchew which was in his eyes a good lynch --> Too Blazinghands because he is certain about Zaragon ---> PALMAR???????

Then there are these guys:
On October 19 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar


Only because stutters wont fly.

Mehhh.
On October 19 2013 04:58 StorrZerg wrote:
##unvote

##Vote Palmar

Ninjavote


This is what Mattchew was doing during the vote race:
NOTHING

This is what he said when it was (almost) done:
On October 19 2013 04:57 Mattchew wrote:
wait what the fuck is going on


Conclusion
If Mattchew is scum I would take serious looks at Cephiro, JAT and Mocsta.
Storrzerg ninjavote was terrible. I feel him as scum.
Stutters played it all alone and I do NOT feel him as scum because of that.
Snowman voting patters was terrible. Him going after Stutters for 48 hours is looking bad now.

I have no other conclusions to make out of the vote race. Maybe others see things I missed. I do think this sums everything up nicely.

So my current scumlist, or at least the list in which I would like to see somebody die:
Mocsta
Storrzerg
Mattchew
Cephiro
JAT


So can I ask a vigshot on Mattchew
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October 19 2013 16:09 GMT
#1501
Bonus reason to think Cephiro and Mattchew are scummers.
On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote:
this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily
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October 19 2013 16:12 GMT
#1502
Also small adjustment to my viglist:

Mocsta
Mattchew
Cephiro

Any of these 3 will do.
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October 19 2013 16:15 GMT
#1504
Well. That's why I am asking for a flip. Pewpewpew.

We kinda lynched the vigi though D:
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October 19 2013 16:24 GMT
#1505
Cephiro
Can you explain to me why you said this:
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)


Why did you go Palmar to save yourself--> Mattchew your favorite lynch ---> back to Palmar for no reason at all??? (except to save Mattchew)

Do you see how there is no Palmar in your updated reads:
On October 19 2013 04:32 Cephiro wrote:
Kill rayn, Storr, Matt.
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October 19 2013 16:25 GMT
#1506
Mocsta same question but for your sillyness.

Mattchew --> BH after Mattchew gets traction ---> Palmar
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October 19 2013 16:33 GMT
#1510
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.
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October 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#1511
On October 20 2013 01:28 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 03:39 Mocsta wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".
you better be town.

i abhor appeals like this.. even moreso as scum.

almost warning worthy if scum; as this transcends the gentleman rules of play.

I really can't see mafia Mocsta making this post knowing that Cephiro is mafia as well. It would either mean that he is faking his disgust or him taking advantage of very cheap play with similarly cheap play. Either way, I would be highly disappointed in him.

I agree. But as both scummers Mocsta had an easy time to catch this monstrosity and might have been so disgusted he trew it in the thread.
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October 19 2013 16:41 GMT
#1512
btw JAT, you being scum has nothing to do with connection to Mattchew, it is the fact that you had REASONS for Mattchew being scum but didn't act on them when the wagon was happening.
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October 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1513
On October 19 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
I reread Hopeless and am way less convinced than yesterday. If someone is interested in my reasoning I can post it but since he obviously won't be lynched I think this should be postponed for now.
##Vote: Cephiro

Nothing on Cephiro.

On October 19 2013 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Oh, nvm that was JAT saying about emotions ~_~ You haven't voted yet JAT?

Try again.


"Then there is this. As far as I know you can read people more easily when they get emotional invested so why would you tell him to step back if you are interested in learning about his alignment?"

Those are your words and you haven't voted. Ceph has been emotionally invested in his past few posts. What is your take on him? What do you even mean try again??

I have voted - that's why I said try again.
My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him.

Cephiro is a good lynch. Still no reasons.

On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters.

Actual reasons to vote for somebody. Except for JAT case on Hopelessder the first reasons JAT has to think somebody is scum.

On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Better vote Palmar!!!
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October 19 2013 16:51 GMT
#1517
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.
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October 19 2013 16:52 GMT
#1518
On October 20 2013 01:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Hah JAT isn't reading the thread.

JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally.
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October 19 2013 16:58 GMT
#1521
rayn signs. It's all me baby.
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October 19 2013 16:59 GMT
#1522
On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.

Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum.
You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great.

It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive?

Why so scummy?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 17:06 GMT
#1528
On October 20 2013 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.

Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum.
You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great.

It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive?

Why so scummy?

It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand?

Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment.

Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again'

You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2.

I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 17:07 GMT
#1529
rofl look how fast JAT is replying and shaming Grack. But answering me with 3 lines of text takes him +5 minutes.

Must untunnel now.
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October 19 2013 17:12 GMT
#1532
On October 20 2013 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.

Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum.
You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great.

It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive?

Why so scummy?

It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand?

Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment.

Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again'

You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2.

I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway.

Why are you lying about me?
Cephiro:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
To be fair to ceph, nobody has great reasons for him being scum other than poorly substantiated meta and some confirmation bias along the lines of "well if he is scum I think he'd play like this".

I mean, sure his scumhunting isn't there but WHOSE IS?

I mean, I'd be somewhat pissed to discover that many votes on me when the key argument is "lurking" and there are players like Stutters and JAT and BH and more contributing equally little.

On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people).


This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself

Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it.

It has everything to do with meta. Did you have a look at Noir? This looks like that. The stuff someone posted about his aperture play looks wildly different.
Cephiro stop defending yourself and tell us who should be lynched instead of you.

Palmar:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Caught up.
Palmar if you are town please don't limit yourself to this SAM thing - yeah I get that you have to make this a primary topic... I am not in the position to critisize someone for not having the time to read the thread but if you do please give us some other thoughts. I did not read many of your games but I watched the video of hero mafia and I am sure you have some useful things to share if you read the thread.
I really don't see the point in limiting yourself to Mocsta discussion...

He didn't do shit. I did not like it.

Yeah, I probably won't be killed - we agree on that.

Ok cool. Thx.
I kinda only looked at the posts you voted it. And a bit around that.

Hmm. Dnu, about you JAT, Dnu.
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October 19 2013 17:26 GMT
#1536
On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote:
My thoughts about people from my house

Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town.

Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him.


Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT

Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. )

Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting.

If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1538
On October 20 2013 02:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 02:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote:
My thoughts about people from my house

Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town.

Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him.


Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT

Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. )

Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting.

If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both.

Look. We agree on something!
If there is scum in every house - we don't know that.

If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why?

Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 17:41 GMT
#1543
Cephiro
Mocsta
Mattchew

Those 3 interest me for Day 2.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 17:41 GMT
#1544
I am out.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 19 2013 19:39 GMT
#1556
Who's sayin i am playing to my scum meta? This is important.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 19 2013 19:56 GMT
#1566
On October 20 2013 04:39 syllogism wrote:
Rayn is one of the easiest town reads to make in this game and should never be lynched

This is correct and Toad, who else? yamato was confused because he did not read that i sign my posts and Koshi does not.
Who else? I have not been reading closely, so i dunno if there is someone else -- but you said "people" which indicates there is more than yamato.

-rayn
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October 19 2013 20:27 GMT
#1596
Pandain went to this:
"Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff."
That's why he was scum.

-rayn
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October 19 2013 20:30 GMT
#1598
On October 20 2013 05:26 syllogism wrote:
Definitely not modconfirmed. He said Stutters was very unresponsive in their mason qt and PMs.

Stutters is very unimpressive in house QT aswell.

-rayn
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October 19 2013 20:35 GMT
#1605
On October 20 2013 05:33 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:35 Pandain wrote:
I'm back and still don't have much time. Someone explain why cep hiro is massive bandwagon now despite his posts from when I was here?

I don't think Pandain would have posted this at the time when Cephiro had 11 votes if Cephiro is mafia, although people were starting to get second thoughts at the time.

See Thug life where Pandain defended PAlmar in the same manner.

-rayn
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October 19 2013 23:25 GMT
#1710
How many vigies do we have rofl. I need to see that spreadsheet endgame. So scum has 2 kp and lets say a scum vigi and then there was a town vigi and an sk? With the lover twins it would make 6.
Crazy shizzle.

Supersoft was yelling that both cephiro and snowman are scum. WIFOM kill or respect kill? Also 4 pages of filter and possible active inside the house?

The other 2 townies I need to reread still. LA made a good post. A long one with a lot of reads that were really different than my reads D: but he was onto LM so thats impressive. I forgot the rest.

AND THEN 3 scumkills :D so awesome. I need to know how that happened. Who had the balls to shoot Pandain. Damn sexy. LM same but less sexy but still sexy. And then scummers probably killed off ET. Thank you! Rofl.

So yeah. Today I can take a day off and sheep BH and syllo.

Yay for town!

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raynpelikonoshi
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October 19 2013 23:31 GMT
#1713
On October 20 2013 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why anyone would want to sheep BH. Seriously...

Well we should ask Pandain why he always kill........WAIT A SECOND. PANDAIN WAS SCUM AND BH IS ALIVE.

BH is going to be scum ]:
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October 19 2013 23:32 GMT
#1714
On October 20 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 08:25 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
How many vigies do we have rofl. I need to see that spreadsheet endgame. So scum has 2 kp and lets say a scum vigi and then there was a town vigi and an sk? With the lover twins it would make 6.
Crazy shizzle.

Supersoft was yelling that both cephiro and snowman are scum. WIFOM kill or respect kill? Also 4 pages of filter and possible active inside the house?

The other 2 townies I need to reread still. LA made a good post. A long one with a lot of reads that were really different than my reads D: but he was onto LM so thats impressive. I forgot the rest.

AND THEN 3 scumkills :D so awesome. I need to know how that happened. Who had the balls to shoot Pandain. Damn sexy. LM same but less sexy but still sexy. And then scummers probably killed off ET. Thank you! Rofl.

So yeah. Today I can take a day off and sheep BH and syllo.

Yay for town!



Not sure if serious.

ET was scum? IMO ET got vig shot because he was coming under suspicion from a lot of people at night. As he was partnered with toad they both died. The 2 kp were obviously SS and LA and then Pandain is either SK or random vigi shot which would make no sense so I'm leaning more towards an SK. LM is also vig shot because of more suspicion.

I was totally serious.
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October 19 2013 23:39 GMT
#1716
On October 20 2013 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 08:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why anyone would want to sheep BH. Seriously...

Well we should ask Pandain why he always kill........WAIT A SECOND. PANDAIN WAS SCUM AND BH IS ALIVE.

BH is going to be scum ]:


This. Look at BH's filter, 3 pages and it's all useless spam shit. What is more curious is how mocsta could have an entire read on Zaragon/BH and he can see BH doing this trolly shit but he doesn't even mention that shit in his last case post on mattchew????

Yeah bussing gets difficult when only 3 scummers remain D:.
Hey I can totally sheep you today as well.

I loved your play D1. Keep it up!
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October 19 2013 23:48 GMT
#1722
Yeah I can vote BH. Every game I play with him he dies day 1 or on day 2 he is scum claiming survivor when a survivor already flipped. I deserve to be dazzled by town BH on day 2.

##vote: BlazingHand
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October 19 2013 23:58 GMT
#1726
Mocsta, gief lvl (%) of scuminess on both BH and Mattchew plz.
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October 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#1735
*gives cookie to Holyflare*
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October 20 2013 12:54 GMT
#1832
Well I cant even pretend to know who the remaining scummers are. Somewhat sad. I guess StorrZerg should be kept alive at all costs. But his role is quite powerful so I cant imagine there not being a framer or maybe an unaware miller left. Holyflare being scum makes me even more sad.
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October 20 2013 13:00 GMT
#1833
On October 20 2013 16:55 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 15:46 Pandain wrote:
To add to this, I think there are better targets then Grack for right now, I'm waiting for a response to my question for him which will either solidify my town read of him or possibly rescind it. I'm not ignoring him entirely.

Holyflare is quite interesting, but he'll slip up eventually if he is scum.
Storr we will see.

And there are probably at least two scum in the lurkers, if not more.

First of all, it's now hard to believe that we ignored this guy. Secondly, this Holyflare mention is completely out of place and nonsensical and suspicious. He is "interesting" , but "will eventually slip up"? What? Pandain seems to have been fond of throwing out a few townie suspicions and one mafia for good measure.

Btw at this point Pandain was being grilled by Holyflare. Might be the reason for that line. They had quite a big going back and forth between the 2.
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October 20 2013 13:02 GMT
#1834
On October 18 2013 11:41 Holyflare wrote:
@ET: Your case relied upon him apologising a lot, however, all you have to do is check the TL mafia database and look at his previous games.

I have checked almost all of them and then did a ctrl+f search for "sorry", it appears in EVERY game many times. So I do not think it is alignment indicative for Onegu, especially to base a whole case off of.

+ Show Spoiler [Onegu] +
Newbie Mini Mafia XLII Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII Mafia Tracker Lynched Day 3
Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 3
Nuclear Winter Mafia Town Immune One Endgamed Day 5
A Bluelightz Mafia The Attack Mafia Vigilante Survived Day 4
GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Desert Mini Mafia Mafia Conditional Vigilante Survived Night 5
Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Town Dog Killed Night 3


However, since that case, Onegu has indeed not posted much and so I'll probably add him to my Palmar/Stutters/Sn0 lynchables for now.


What I do actually want to point out though is:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours.

@pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes.

Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least.

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 01:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh i forgot something.
EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got?

-rayn

This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe.


Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him.

Will make deeper analysis when I'm back.

##Vote: Onegu


Nice scum/town slip.

Look at this syllo. Why would Holyflare do this? So crazy.
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October 20 2013 13:04 GMT
#1836
Oh wait you actually didnt like that post :'(
Mehh. I dont think he is scum.
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October 20 2013 13:08 GMT
#1838
On October 20 2013 22:04 syllogism wrote:
Do what? Check Onegu's meta? Well look at what he is doing with it: nothing. He looks it up, concludes that ET is wrong and then decides Onegu is still a good lynch. Why even bother checking if that is going to be your conclusion either way?

Yeah but if ET is your scumbuddy would you do it like this? Trash the case but still vote with him? Why destroy the case? Feels like he disagreed with the case but also found Onegu scummy/ worth pressuring. There is no further interaction with ET. Not a single remark that ET is scummy for being wrong. Wouldnt you do that if you knew ET was scum with you? Covering your bases.
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October 20 2013 13:23 GMT
#1841
Hmmm.
Well they can fight it out themselves.
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October 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1854
On October 21 2013 01:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Why does no one want to take credit for shooting a mafia?

There is no reason to claim.

I am thinking somebody might have had a dual gun. Like you need to target 2 of the same alignements for it to go off. I just cant believe there were so many vigis. And then there was a scum vigi.

If this is true there is no SK and we can trow a party next night with only one kill. It's 14
vs 3 atm with a confirmed town and a lot of townreads. Party on!
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October 20 2013 16:58 GMT
#1856
Pandain is quite the crazy shot. There is not really a reason for the SK to shoot him. Unless because Pandain was on to him or to overlap shots. Also as SK you want to play protown and shoot scums because town tends to perform horribly. So putting them on the right track is better than kill one of the town leaders. Pandain was kinda being really active. I think the SK might be in our house. It was rayn saying before deadline Pandain might be scum. Dont know if other houses were on to him.
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October 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#1887
On October 21 2013 02:52 StorrZerg wrote:
What about someone who kills anyone that visits them at night

2 mafia with .5 kp use it on 1 person, and both end up dieing

That is scary smart.
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October 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#1907
Meh. tbh I am feeling Mattchew or Storrzerg as scum. But the claims and then filter diving is ruining that?

imo lynch BH.

Just lynch him unless he reads the thread. And I am not interested in knowing his role. I am interested in his ideas.
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October 20 2013 18:30 GMT
#1922
On October 21 2013 03:29 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 03:26 Onegu wrote:
@ storr

And just to be clear does your check say there is only one scum in your house, or that there is at least one scum?



5 town 1 scum

I don't understand why Palmar was still counted. He was dead.
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October 20 2013 18:33 GMT
#1926
On October 21 2013 03:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 03:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 03:29 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 21 2013 03:26 Onegu wrote:
@ storr

And just to be clear does your check say there is only one scum in your house, or that there is at least one scum?



5 town 1 scum

I don't understand why Palmar was still counted. He was dead.


People don't die they just get "stunned" so technically he's only in hopsital and therefore still part of the house? I think at least.

Hmm, OP states they are in the graveyard though. But ok flavor and shit I guess.

Maybe hosts should change graveyard to infirmary or something.
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October 20 2013 18:35 GMT
#1927
But yeah, if the cop is real. There has to be at least 1 scum in your house. 2/2/1/1 makes sense if there is a cop like that. And then the SK is in a House with 1 scum. Probably my house with the Pandain kill.
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October 20 2013 18:38 GMT
#1929
Also, could people put down votes? Show some face.
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October 20 2013 19:20 GMT
#1958
Is there any particular reason why people have forgotten about Cephiro?

-rayn
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October 20 2013 19:23 GMT
#1960
On October 21 2013 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 04:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Is there any particular reason why people have forgotten about Cephiro?

-rayn


because this whole hufflepuff thing was thrown out

Yet there are 5 votes on Blazinghand (yes i know we are voting for him aswell -- i wanna hear from Koshi about the vote) for what reason?

The only thing on D1 that was brought up "in favor" of Cephiro was that "this lynch is happeneing too easy". Look what happened..

-rayn
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October 20 2013 19:51 GMT
#1975
On October 21 2013 04:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Town really has no reason to need to know what happened last night as far as I can tell. I almost claimed like 22 hours ago but it didn't seem worth it.

What? If you know what happened (i.e. scum shot XYZ - someone else shot ABC) why not tell it?
Is there any harm if you can give the info without outing people's roles?

Example: Mafioso died, mafia sure did not kill them. If you can tell how he died how does this help mafia more than it does help town?

-rayn
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#1981
So Sno, why not consider Cephiro as a lynch?
Also what's the case on BH?

-rayn
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October 20 2013 20:28 GMT
#1985
wtf are Cephiros notes? JAT said the same thing in QT. IF you guys mean his post where he in quotes makes a list pos on people that post was really bad.

He had EchelonTee as town, a guy who was scummy as hell. Because of "good logic and blabla whatever". Bullshit.
He had Pandain as town. On D1 end and N1 Pandain made zero sense and Ceephiro should have seen him scummy having just played scum with him.
Lonemeow is a guy who get no mention is his reads.

This looks good?

Then he says, on N1 "Kill rayn, Storr, Matt."
Not sure about Matt but Storr and me are town. His reads are full of crap.
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October 20 2013 20:29 GMT
#1986
EBWOP:
Above from rayn
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#1995
On October 21 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe cephiro should be considered because he didn't follow up on his promises but being wrong does not make him scum rayn.

Being wrong is okay. Giving a townread on people who you shoult think are scummy is not, and vice versa.
Can anyone say they did think ET was town? Anyone?

Someone asked about yamato. I have no idea what he is because i have not been here much after the first half of D1 and do not remember any of his posts after that. I thought he was town at the start of the game. Not a good lynch for today.

-rayn
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October 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#2004
Nice to see you post Onegu. gn.
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October 20 2013 21:18 GMT
#2008
On October 21 2013 06:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
I want ceph or stutters up for lynch today. Both have made promises of activity that remain unfulfilled.

true.

Do you like Onegu?
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October 20 2013 21:36 GMT
#2013
If StorrZerg is town. there is max 1 scum in Hufflepuff. That means that there are most likely 2 houses with 2 scummers and 1 more house with 1 scummer and then somewhere an SK that might be greenchecked so w.e.
Ravenclaw:
Onegu
Syllo
LastArgument
Tunkeg
Supersoft
Yamato

Slytherin:
Mocsta
EchelonTee
Blazinghand
I-Be-Pro
Sn0_man
Skanjab1s

Hufflepuff:
StorrZerg
Palmar
Mattchew
HolyFlare
Hopeless
Grack

Gryffindor:
Pandain
justanothertownie
raynpelikonoshi
Cephiro
VayneAuthority
Stutters695

The 5 bolded ones are up for lynching today right? Ugh, so difficult to pick out. Hosts confirmed that the scums are distributed randomly, so we do not know about a 2/2/1/1 distribution. I just realized that... Nothing to see here then D:
I'll post anyway because I can.
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October 20 2013 21:46 GMT
#2016
On October 21 2013 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think the bolded are accurate Koshi. Who wants to lynch Onegu? Also Syllo wants to lynch Holy it seems.

Ohyeah, I bolded those 2 because if there is only 1 scum in Hufflepuff there might be 2 in Ravenclaw.

Hmm. But random is random D:
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October 20 2013 21:48 GMT
#2017
And Holyflare is not getting lynched. No.
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October 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#2019
Come on. The case from syllo has holes in it and Holyflare defended more than sufficiently. I dislike Mattchew 150.000 times more than Holyflare. Why is he town? Because Pandain filter? Meh.

Mattchew & Cephiro could easily be scum.
Holyflare is scum with who? He is trying to figure out the game and his interactions with Pandain early on were not scummy in my eyes, they looked good.
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October 20 2013 22:09 GMT
#2022
On October 21 2013 06:57 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Come on. The case from syllo has holes in it and Holyflare defended more than sufficiently. I dislike Mattchew 150.000 times more than Holyflare. Why is he town? Because Pandain filter? Meh.

Mattchew & Cephiro could easily be scum.
Holyflare is scum with who? He is trying to figure out the game and his interactions with Pandain early on were not scummy in my eyes, they looked good.


i think matt is town, does that have any weight?
i think he is the most town in my group

Yeah but I don't see it.

Page 1 of Mattchew filter is nothingness, somewhere he has a scumread on somebody because that person typed "lol" at the end if his sentence and that made him scummy because he was insecure because Mattchew texted girls like that when he is insecure or something.

Page 2/3 there is still pretty much nothing that makes him town, he defends himself a bit but that's it. Then there is Pandain voting for him because Pandain has "reasons" and then there him quoting EchelonTee on the Onegu case saying that ET is wrong.

Page 4 has the excelcopy of his reads:
Pandain: Green
Lonemeow: Nothing
EchelonTee:

That's quite strange if you look at Stutters you see that Mattchew has him for town because 2 lines of text in which he defends Palmar. Like why the fuck is that green? And Mattchew had Stutters green as soon as that happened, why wouldn't it be 2 scummers defending each other? Mattchew had Palmar as SCUM for the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. He was one of the 3 pioneers of the Palmar wagon.

Then there was the whole Mattchew wagon catching steam for 4 whole minutes. 4 minutes. Because Cephiro decided that Mattchew wasn't his preferred lynch even though he was whining and bitching that his reads in his 1 post were so valuable... But then Cephiro decided that when it seemed that Mattchew wagon was going to surpass the Palmar wagon to vote for Palmar who was NOT a scumread for Cephiro....


Yeah, I don't like Mattchew at all.
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October 20 2013 22:10 GMT
#2023
On October 21 2013 06:58 StorrZerg wrote:
I mean ify ou think Matt is scum with Cephiro, why not Cephiro first since he isn't holding up his end of the deal

also i still think BH is a fine lynch unless he does something

Sure. But we were talking why not Holyflare.

First Cephiro is quite ok, I do wonder what he meant with "I just grew stronger".

We will read about that when he come back telling us how he didn't read the thread because he has a life and shit.
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October 20 2013 22:22 GMT
#2024
Oh and Mocsta who isn't confirmed anything was also involved in that steaming wagon of Mattchew. Right after the night he made a case on Mattchew connecting him with EchelonTee. Don't know what that was all about.

I said it before the night.
Mattchew
Cephiro
Mocsta

Probably nothing but I keep it in the back of my head.
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October 20 2013 22:31 GMT
#2025
How is that RP going around the Daypost? J.K. Rowling already sent you guys something? Is she slacking? 6 kills should provide some epic fluff.
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October 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#2027
The story stuff
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October 20 2013 22:35 GMT
#2028
The epic battle around the 6 kills man... It's why I play mafia. That and the money that is in it.
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October 20 2013 22:52 GMT
#2030
On October 21 2013 07:46 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 07:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:57 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Come on. The case from syllo has holes in it and Holyflare defended more than sufficiently. I dislike Mattchew 150.000 times more than Holyflare. Why is he town? Because Pandain filter? Meh.

Mattchew & Cephiro could easily be scum.
Holyflare is scum with who? He is trying to figure out the game and his interactions with Pandain early on were not scummy in my eyes, they looked good.


i think matt is town, does that have any weight?
i think he is the most town in my group

Yeah but I don't see it.

Page 1 of Mattchew filter is nothingness, somewhere he has a scumread on somebody because that person typed "lol" at the end if his sentence and that made him scummy because he was insecure because Mattchew texted girls like that when he is insecure or something.

Page 2/3 there is still pretty much nothing that makes him town, he defends himself a bit but that's it. Then there is Pandain voting for him because Pandain has "reasons" and then there him quoting EchelonTee on the Onegu case saying that ET is wrong.

Page 4 has the excelcopy of his reads:
Pandain: Green
Lonemeow: Nothing
EchelonTee:

That's quite strange if you look at Stutters you see that Mattchew has him for town because 2 lines of text in which he defends Palmar. Like why the fuck is that green? And Mattchew had Stutters green as soon as that happened, why wouldn't it be 2 scummers defending each other? Mattchew had Palmar as SCUM for the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. He was one of the 3 pioneers of the Palmar wagon.

Then there was the whole Mattchew wagon catching steam for 4 whole minutes. 4 minutes. Because Cephiro decided that Mattchew wasn't his preferred lynch even though he was whining and bitching that his reads in his 1 post were so valuable... But then Cephiro decided that when it seemed that Mattchew wagon was going to surpass the Palmar wagon to vote for Palmar who was NOT a scumread for Cephiro....


Yeah, I don't like Mattchew at all.

this one of the worst posts i've read in a long time

I take that as a compliment.
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#2044
On October 21 2013 08:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 08:34 StorrZerg wrote:
can syllo and mocasta name claim at this point?

no I won't


rayn
I know what ceph meant. 6 of us know.
but we are not allowed to talk about it. I don't know what the consequences are though.
sorry.

Ok cool.
I think Mattchew and Storrzerg are both scum.
And with that I go to bed.
gn.
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#2045
Mattchew, Storrzerg and Cephiro.

I like it.
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October 20 2013 23:50 GMT
#2046
And Mattchew needs to die first.
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October 21 2013 06:45 GMT
#2107
We are so much ahead but even now some people cba to post a couple times in 48 hours.
Sad.

Not posting at all is kinda strange for yamato. Mostly he posts at least a couple times totally disinterested. And it's only day 2.

BH could be left alive for today, but I think he will flip red over yamato.

Cephiro is an odd one. I agree with Mocsta that it doesnt make much sense. I am going to lynch him out of the 3 unless he fully roleclaims. +wincon.

Guess we can lose 10 more townies before this goes into lylo.. So not too worried.
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October 21 2013 08:00 GMT
#2114
On October 21 2013 16:44 Koshi wrote:
Matt is not town........


For filter...
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#2115
On October 21 2013 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I mean confirmed town or anything near that.

##unvote
##vote: Cephiro


Again he can explain himself. Kinda good targets to pick if he is town and he needs them to die to become powerful. LA, Toad, Pandain would die quite fast if town. Mocsta... Dunno tbh. Why not pick Syllo or maybe even supersoft?
Syllo was confirmed town and most likely to die?

Why reveal so much when you are 3P? As mafia you could reveal a lot because mafia wont kill you and if your ploy works town wont lynch you. But as 3P you do not want to run the risk to be shot by mafia because you are too powerful? Because let's say only 1 days in the first night and out of the remaining 3 there is a scum hiding, now scum knows Cephiro is getting more powerful with each member they kill, why would mafia not simply kill Cephiro??

Doesn't make too much sense for Cephiro to be 3P with a solo wincon tbh. He is town or scum.


Again for filter...
Damn, for some reason it remembered my main account at work. soz.
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#2117
On October 21 2013 17:04 syllogism wrote:
Re-reading mattchew and he seems to look quite terrible. Why did the QT conclude that he is town? He wasn't suspicious of any of the flipped mafia. Also see e.g.

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s

and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?


While Yamato hasn't flipped yet, I would also like to note that he has some suspicions interactions with Mattchew and Yamato's final post before apparently giving up on the game was to very lazily attack Mattchew

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20017831

But everybody had yamato pinned down as town for D1. Completely disappearing is not his scummeta or am I mistaken?
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October 21 2013 08:14 GMT
#2118
But I do agree on Mattchew being one scummy bastard.
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#2120
Yeah it's hard to say we are seeing the yamato that puts fears in scums so they shoot him n1... But completely disappearing? Meh.

You not afraid Cephiro will kill you and fulfill some extra wincon after n2? It kinda is the easiest wincon ever though. Pick 2 strong townies that will die and shoot 2 guys yourself = win.
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#2121
Hmm Cephiro might be town. His role just doesn't make any sense as scum or 3p. At least how he played it.

rayn wont like that though.
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#2125
Nha I like CR. Trow us some short posts please.
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#2126
This is pretty cool. Now I want to kill Mattchew or BH.
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#2127
Unless CR doesn't post.
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#2128
On October 21 2013 04:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
I just got unbanned, so I can replace in. Just as a warning, I can only spare like an hour a day for mafia, so if there's someone else that can be a lot more active, they're probably a better choice.

oh boy...
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#2135
Mattchew

I am respecting Storr his claim. I am maybe a bit fast in saying both StorrZerg and Mattchew are scum. But Mattchew is scum for sure. I just have insane problems with Storr thinking Mattchew is town. There are also some other things I don't like about Storr but this case is about Mattchew.

Let's take a look at Mattchew his day 2:

On October 20 2013 06:35 Mattchew wrote:
syllo any thoughts on hopeless

On October 20 2013 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
syllo can we lynch hopeless instead?

On October 20 2013 08:10 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:50 syllogism wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
That LA flipped? Was in response to syllo saying he can't know his alignment. I.E. he flipped I know he's town.

I didn't say that, I simply suggested that he couldn't know LA played "very strong" town game unless he knows alignments of every player in the game. It's possible that he thought LA was just very towny and therefore player a strong game, but I find that less likely than the alternative. Still, no point discussing this any further.

true... discuss hopeless with me?


This isn't a case on Hopeless, this is testing the waters. Here is another try, trying to vote Hopeless through marv his dead body:
On October 20 2013 11:54 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:21 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:10 LastArgument wrote:
Just to be completely clear, Hopeless - you don't have any specific scumreads at the moment?

Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point.

Here's my issue with this. And there are two.

Firstly, you've said this as town before:
On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets...

I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking.
I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy.
@wbg voters: dafuq?

You've also said this as town:
On April 23 2013 01:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...its a pressure vote on someone you think is less scum than other players....are you sure you know how to play this game?

Your attitude doesn't seem to tally with how you view the game when you play town.
##Vote: Hopeless1der

lets not forget the dead aka the confirmed

Now we have to consider that Mattchew knew about the Housecheck through his "masonbuddy" before the thread knew and that Mattchew decided to look in his own House and found Hopeless most likely scum. I can respect that. The reasons why are far to find, there isn't ANYTHING about hopeless in Mattchew his excellreads from Night 1. But he replied somewhere that his "excellreads" were about finding town and not scum...
But syllo doesn't bite and then Hopeless posts this:
On October 20 2013 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
storr town for asking random questions, and pandain's "scumread" on him
matt town for showing storr why he's likely confirmed town. also pandain's scumread
holyflare town for, you know, actually hunting scum and generally making sense.
grack...doesnt seem like scum? his playful attitude hasnt changed since daypost.


On October 20 2013 12:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
...so much for loyalty
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare

By process of elimination

In which he does the same thing that Mattchew should have done when he knew about the Housecheck. Go over the housemembers and post his reads. PoE gave Hopeless1der Holyflare as scum.

This is how Mattchew reacts:
On October 20 2013 12:34 Mattchew wrote:
LOL

##vote Hopeless1der


Mattchew finally found a reason to start a wagon on his fake scumread. Sadly enough Mattchew doesn't understand what Hopeless did was a normal thoughtprocess for a townie with the information about a Housecheck because Mattchew isn't town and didn't have this thoughtprocess.

You want more proof? Look at his reads from night 1: Grack, Storr were both very green for the SAME reasons hopeless says they are green. On top of that Hopeless says that Mattchew is town for x reason. What is so "LOL" about this that Mattchew instantly votes hopeless? They have the same thoughtprocess and Holyflare was looking scummy as well for Mattchew. There is litterally nothing "LOL" about those reads because they are the same as those from Mattchew.

Let's vote the scummiest person in this thread please
##unvote
##vote: Mattchew
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#2138
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?
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#2139
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

Damn, new lovers = more chance on a 3p role D:
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#2145
On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either:
1) I am no threat to them.
2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them.
3) Have planned something for me later.

Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town.

Why?

btw, are you a thread to scum? Or is that a secret?
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October 21 2013 12:30 GMT
#2148
On October 21 2013 21:26 Mattchew wrote:
I also had a case on hopeless, but refrained from posting and then his role has got me completely confused

Yeah, then you should have posted that instead asking syllo 3 times to make it, or using marv his outdated case. That's the lamest defense ever. I had it a case but decided to not post it, so your case is nullified...
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October 21 2013 12:33 GMT
#2150
On October 21 2013 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 21 2013 21:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?

There was a lot going through the QT after we got a house check and I don't remember Mattchew's vote being out of line with his thought process. I'll say what I said in QT it seems townie of Mattchew to keep wanting to lynch into Hufflepuff when the thread seemed to think he was the most suspicious Hufflepuff.

Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town.

Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread?

Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT.
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October 21 2013 12:43 GMT
#2152
On October 21 2013 21:40 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 21 2013 21:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?

There was a lot going through the QT after we got a house check and I don't remember Mattchew's vote being out of line with his thought process. I'll say what I said in QT it seems townie of Mattchew to keep wanting to lynch into Hufflepuff when the thread seemed to think he was the most suspicious Hufflepuff.

Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town.

Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread?

Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT.

Idk. Maybe he wanted to see if Syllo agreed with his read. It was probably based mostly on POE. WHY DO I KEEP GETTING STUCK IN THESE ARGUMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE IM UNSURE OF!

If you want to see if somebody agrees with your read you say give him something to work with.

Also, I hoped discussing the case with you would help us both figuring out Mattchew further. But I'll let you be. Seems like you are not interested in adding your own view on Mattchew. oki.
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October 21 2013 12:58 GMT
#2157
Oh god. Mattchew has 4 scumreads.
One has done something townie, three others have done nothing scummy..

Okay Koshi, i believe our vote is in the right place. We can deal with Cephiro later.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 13:05 GMT
#2162
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 13:11 GMT
#2165
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

I don't remember asking anything from you. So it was either Koshi or you are lying.
I don't really care at all because you are scum and should be lynched. You have done no scumhunting at all. Now you want to lynch intosome people because of a cop check that might or might not be true.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 13:12 GMT
#2166
Btw i thought JAT was scum on D1. I do not think so any more and we should not lynch him in any case.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 13:17 GMT
#2168
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

It was me and I am not begging you to answer. Answer or not.
It's not going to change the world.

It's obvious you want to keep some secrets. So I am not asking twice.

You going to tell me that is scummy?
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October 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#2170
On October 21 2013 22:19 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

It was me and I am not begging you to answer. Answer or not.
It's not going to change the world.

It's obvious you want to keep some secrets. So I am not asking twice.

You going to tell me that is scummy?


Good answer. Certainly not. I am looking forward to talking with you more in the QT if possible. Rayn is too much in a tunnel-mode to get a proper read on.

What QT? Our House? I am there.
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October 21 2013 13:57 GMT
#2178
There is a funny dicussion going on in our house QT. Cephiro wanted to talk with Koshi. The first thing he asks is "who do you think is most suspicious in hufflepuffle out of holy/matt/hope".

See Koshi's last posts and you'll find out why is this so funny. I'll keep you updated for more funniness when Cephiro answers me what are his "good reasons" to ask stuff that's just been said in thread.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 14:24 GMT
#2187
On October 21 2013 23:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm voting ceph. He's done nothing to indicate that he wishes to win with town. His unwillingness to roleclaim isn't OK by me.
For visibility:
##Vote: Cephiro

Can you confirm that you have an idea about the nightactions without Cephiro being involved?
Also, read on Mattchew please. And comments on my case?
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October 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#2199
On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1.

My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better.

PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something.

Hmm, can you be a bit more specific?

My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow.

Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing.

2NK
2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP
Toad dieing due to 0.5KP
LoneMeow = ???

This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck.
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October 21 2013 14:41 GMT
#2204
On October 21 2013 23:39 Cephiro wrote:
Matt is really scummy.

First, he was pretty useless during day 1. There was no scumhunting.
Second, his N1 reads are townreads instead of scumreads. (Town on Pandain, nothing on ET, nothing on LM...)
During this day there was a case on hopeless by rayko without any reasoning except that there is 1 scum in hufflepuff. Even now matt has provided no reasoning for being suspicious of hopeless, except that it was a case "centered around him asking a lot of questions but not furthering his thought process / reads through them".

And lastly, after this he claimed that the people he wants to lynch are in a guy who has done townie things and 3 nullreads.
(Onegu, JAT, VA, Yam/CR)

It doesn't make any sense at all. He says he want to lynch into those 4 guys, but thinks one is townie, one is afk but has thread snetiment, and 2 he hasn't read yet.

In short: Mattchew isn't doing anything.

*Candy given*


Why are you using my case as your own Cephiro? You ask me about Mattchew in our QT and now you use my case as your own? Are you fucking kidding me? WHY THE FUCK?

You are even mistaken and I made a case on Mattchew not Hopeless...
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October 21 2013 14:43 GMT
#2207
On October 21 2013 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 23:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1.

My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better.

PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something.

Hmm, can you be a bit more specific?

My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow.

Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing.

2NK
2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP
Toad dieing due to 0.5KP
LoneMeow = ???

This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck.

Toad died because ET died Koshi.

Yes but where is the 2 times 0.5KP from Pandain and ET? There should be 3 scumkills. Unless they didn't use their extra 0.5KP but that does not make sense.
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October 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#2232
On October 22 2013 00:14 StorrZerg wrote:
w/e cephiro stop with the cloak and dagger

You seem to somehow know Matt is town. If you are town scum already know you are town.
Tell us in detail why Matt is town so we can trust you. Your cryptic statements are not enough.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 15:29 GMT
#2241
So eeuhm. Why did you steal my case Cephiro? Answer this or I change my vote, even though you are on Mattchew as well -_- ???

On October 22 2013 00:21 Mattchew wrote:
Cephiro is a stupid lynch imo his play is too weird for scum and way too weird for an antitown 3rd party

Explain to me how it makes sense that a townie basically copy/pastes my case on you for himself?
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October 21 2013 15:33 GMT
#2247
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?
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October 21 2013 15:40 GMT
#2256
On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?



Matt and i had a priv QT
we removed all doubt from each other in that qt.

You know what would be protown?
REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD.

Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck?
How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all.

Now I know again why I think both of you are scum.
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October 21 2013 15:45 GMT
#2261
GRACK.

Please tell me why Mattchew and StorrZerg refuse to tell this thread why they have townreads on each other. Nobody in this thread has townreads on either one of them. However, some do respect the copclaim.

Explain to me why they can clear themselves to each other in their private Mason but look like scummy fucks in this thread.

I know I asked this before but I am going crazy.
___

And then there is Cephiro stealing my case, JAT confirming this and nobody else gives 2 fucks.
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October 21 2013 15:46 GMT
#2263
I hate Hufflepuff. inb4 there are 3 scums in there.
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October 21 2013 15:49 GMT
#2266
On October 22 2013 00:46 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?



Matt and i had a priv QT
we removed all doubt from each other in that qt.

You know what would be protown?
REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD.

Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck?
How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all.

Now I know again why I think both of you are scum.


what secret?
We talked
we deliberated....

Matt thinks im town because i've explained my entire thought process of the game to him. among other things.
You can call me awful town for not being able to communicate effectively with you idc, but please for the love of town, can you focus your attention and time onto someone else
I don't know what your fishing for.

Did you communicate this thoughtprocess in this thread so that we could evaluate it?
Did Mattchew communicate his thoughtprocess in this thread so that we could evaluate it?

And can you tell me more about this thoughtprocess.
Can you give me reads? Because you 2 have no reads at all. What was the "thoughtprocess" about?

ANYTHING?
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October 21 2013 15:53 GMT
#2271
On October 22 2013 00:49 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:43 Onegu wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?



Matt and i had a priv QT
we removed all doubt from each other in that qt.

You know what would be protown?
REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD.

Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck?
How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all.

Now I know again why I think both of you are scum.



I really doubt storr is scum but saying my vote is wasted at this point is dumb when he isnt giveing reasons in thread why matt is town.

I could have killed a known pretty powerful blue role when almost no other roles were known

You are killing me.
How? Because you knew 2 hours in N1 that he was the housecop?
How would you prevent the rest of your QT to spill that in the thread? It would be the same effect, 1 scum in Hufflepuff.
If only you knew, how would you prevent Storr from telling the thread you knew in the quiet period?
Also, were you masoned from the start of N1? or did Storr claim in the QT? I missed that.
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October 21 2013 15:57 GMT
#2273
StorrZerg you have absolutely no idea how Pandain interacts with his scumbuddies.

Storr & Matt, rephrase your QT. Now. I don't believe your bullshit with no proof given.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#2296
On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened

Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's.

That being said i think HF is town.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 16:17 GMT
#2298
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn
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October 21 2013 16:24 GMT
#2309
On October 22 2013 01:20 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn


Because of possible Miller
Because of possible Framer

And because everyone in hufflepuff is active...

So why the fuck did you guys start talking about this in the first place? What's the point of the check if you think it's tampered with? Why the fuck are people talking about irrelevant stuff? Lynch the whole Hufflepuff i say.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 16:31 GMT
#2319
On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff.

It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 18:16 GMT
#2441
Good plan!

-rayn
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October 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#2443
So let's lynch someone useless, like Stutters?

-rayn
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October 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#2450
On October 22 2013 03:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
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On October 22 2013 03:12 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:05 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey I just read my role pm. I'm at work atm, so won't be able to read 100+ pages of stuff. I think I can get all caught up tonight though. In the meantime, I'll just throw up a null vote.

##vote: no lynch

glhf!

this might make me rage quit


Ye ur right. I'll put some time before the deadline and try to make some contributions.

I don't know if no lynch is possible. Don't forget about the vote thread.
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October 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#2451
On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:
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On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?

If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)

Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad.

Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me.


Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!)

CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._.

not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._.

how scummy was yamato before he replaced out?

Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.
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October 21 2013 18:25 GMT
#2454
On October 22 2013 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, I'm treating hopeless coming thru as a red check on holyflare more or less, so I'm willing to wait on that lynch till tomorrow koshi.

Unless I am reading wrong he already used his copcheck on Toad.
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October 21 2013 18:29 GMT
#2459
On October 22 2013 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 03:25 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, I'm treating hopeless coming thru as a red check on holyflare more or less, so I'm willing to wait on that lynch till tomorrow koshi.

Unless I am reading wrong he already used his copcheck on Toad.

? He is gonna make syllo invincible for tomorrow. I'm calling that a green check on him. If it happens.

How do we know he is invincible?
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October 21 2013 18:31 GMT
#2462
On October 22 2013 03:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 03:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:25 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, I'm treating hopeless coming thru as a red check on holyflare more or less, so I'm willing to wait on that lynch till tomorrow koshi.

Unless I am reading wrong he already used his copcheck on Toad.

? He is gonna make syllo invincible for tomorrow. I'm calling that a green check on him. If it happens.

How do we know he is invincible?

syllo could post and confirmed he has received the potion

Ohyeah. Smart. Damnit.

How can I not find a target to lynch.
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October 21 2013 18:36 GMT
#2466
On October 22 2013 03:34 Blazinghand wrote:
Looks like yamato mostly bsed for a couple days then went awol. I'd be okay lynching him but mostly this is because he is not me.

Why does one of HF/hopeless1 have to be scum? Are they the final hufflepuffs?

Everybody loves StorrZerg and Mattchew. I made a case on Mattchew and I think he is the scummiest guy in the thread but w.e
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October 21 2013 18:37 GMT
#2468
On October 22 2013 03:34 Cephiro wrote:
Wait... if there should be a line in the daypost about the potion, why can I find none of this claimed cop-check potion??

So that claim is absolutely bullshit is it not, or am I missing something again?

@Sn0: I'm trying to figure out things still, I'll tell you if I have something that you may find useful. For now there are only some things in my role which make me even more suspicious.

Nha, syllo should get the message that he received the potion. Just like Toad received a message that he got a potion. But Toad died, so he couldn't tell us about the message.
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October 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#2479
On October 22 2013 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:
So the case for lynching Cephiro is based on the fact that his role sounds scary and he could potentially be 3p?

And Cephiro decided to make 1 post for 47 hours in Day 1. Then started crying because 1 post should be more than sufficient to play mafia. Eventually posted his notes and we moved off him for contributing. Cephiro thanked us and told us he would contribute on day 2. 40 hours into day 2 Cephiro still didn't participate. People got angry.
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October 21 2013 18:47 GMT
#2482
Should make that green and bolded.
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October 21 2013 18:58 GMT
#2497
Think I can vote Stutters as well. Marv didn't like him.
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October 21 2013 19:13 GMT
#2509
I am okay with lynching Stutters / CR.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Stutters


Cephiro is likely town from the way he did his "play" of making Koshi's case in thread. Reminds me of Aperture a lot, plus, he didn't overplay it (i.e. did not waste time or anything).

-rayn
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October 21 2013 19:16 GMT
#2513
Stutters:
You claimed to be masoned with LA? That does make you town how?
You have not done anything at all.

-rayn
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October 21 2013 19:25 GMT
#2524
On October 22 2013 04:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Stutters:
You claimed to be masoned with LA? That does make you town how?
You have not done anything at all.

-rayn

It doesn't. I even said that when explaining what was going on between him and I.

I've laid out why I think Ceph isn't town and stand by that. And given our considerable lead, if he is 3p (other than survivor, in which case he'd be playing like he was town) any KP is going towards town.


So did you or did you not read the house QT?

-rayn
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October 21 2013 19:31 GMT
#2531
On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi.
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened

Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's.

That being said i think HF is town.

-rayn

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On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?

If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)

Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad.

Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me.


Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!)

CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._.

not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._.

how scummy was yamato before he replaced out?

Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.

Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him.

I dunno. I don't think Holyflare is scum. Apparently Koshi thinks so. We have not discussed our townreads a lot.
We are not pushing CR lynch away. Stutters is a better target imo.

[i]-rayn[/y]
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October 21 2013 19:54 GMT
#2577
On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi.
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened

Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's.

That being said i think HF is town.

-rayn

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On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?

If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)

Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad.

Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me.


Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!)

CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._.

not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._.

how scummy was yamato before he replaced out?

Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.

Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him.

Oh. I was wrong. I wrote Holyflare but meant Hopeless1der back there. D:
I like Holyflare.
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October 21 2013 20:00 GMT
#2594
Yup. But they can both die.
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October 21 2013 20:06 GMT
#2602
meh
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October 21 2013 20:06 GMT
#2606
On October 22 2013 05:06 syllogism wrote:
Can I get a vig on Chairman Yang, thanks. Again, it doesn't matter if he is town or mafia but it has to happen.

yup. Need to see dem votes.
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October 21 2013 20:11 GMT
#2619
Will we see 3 scum flips this night? Exciting exciting.
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October 21 2013 20:37 GMT
#2633
Grack. Do you think both Skanjab and the guy casting the secret vote are scum? That's serious face showing.

We just need CR to flip. As soon as possible. I hope we don't have to waste a full day on that.
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October 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#2634
Because that is CR, skanjab AND secret vote caster.

I am feeling Holyflare to be town now. He needs to cast his extra vote next cycle though.
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October 21 2013 20:39 GMT
#2636
It would confirm him if it is true. And would he have both a secret and a non secret vote? Sounds extreme.
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October 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#2643
On October 22 2013 05:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
Is there any information on what the secret vote is? Or do we have no idea who has that ability and how exactly is works?

It's secret.
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October 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#2645
Did you already role claim CR? Would you like to do it? We would like it.
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October 22 2013 00:02 GMT
#2674
Interesting note from house QT:
Vayne: "yamato played to his scum meta on D1 and then he stopped playing because half of his team got killed."

yamato did play to his town meta on D1 and guess who else stopped playing after N1?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#2677
BH do you think yamato is town or scum by reading his filter? Don't take his inactivity after N1 into account.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 00:46 GMT
#2693
Two things that made me think yamato is town:
(1) I don't think yamato would have confidency to attack me first thing in the game as scum.
(2) I don't think yamato was overly trying to look townie and/or was scared of something (like he usually does as scum).
(3) Yamato has been fairly "useless" in other games aswell as town. That's not alignment indicative for him. (1) and (2) are.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 00:56 GMT
#2696
On October 22 2013 09:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 09:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Two things that made me think yamato is town:
(1) I don't think yamato would have confidency to attack me first thing in the game as scum.
(2) I don't think yamato was overly trying to look townie and/or was scared of something (like he usually does as scum).
(3) Yamato has been fairly "useless" in other games aswell as town. That's not alignment indicative for him. (1) and (2) are.

-rayn

I don't understand you were ok lynching him prior to the ninja vote and now you do not want to lynch him?

That was pure policy until CR started contributing and i think he will contribute later on aswell. I am nowhere near 100% sure yamato is town, but i am over 50% confident in my early read on him.
Why are people talking about the silent vote? It's not alignment indicative for CR.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 00:59 GMT
#2698
On October 22 2013 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
Regarding Skanjab and the last-second vote-swap.

On one hand,
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:47 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:45 Mattchew wrote:
Mafia probably used the secret vote whether or not cr is scum... Either they delay his death or get a vig/lynch on a townie from the confusion and sketchiness


The closeness of the lynch points more to CRay scum. It is pointless as scum to try last minute switch the lynch off of one townie and onto another.
This is his last contribution before the lynch; and suggests no premeditation towards Stutters.

On the other hand, scum KP at 3 members is already 1KP for this cycle. Its a very risky move to hammer a townie (regardless of secret vote) for the benefit of 1 town lynch. I don't think the risk is worth the reward.

As scum, I have hammered a townie last-second before, but made sure I had a story backed up over the past 3-4hrs to why. i.e. the concept was premeditated and I could back it up.
Skanjab doesn't have this.

As we know with claims: typically the awkwardly revealed claims are usually from town, and the big spiels that are perfectly crafted are usually fake-claims.

Lastly, I have had a townread on Skanjab since his Yamato case, Day1. This has nothing to do with that he made a case on Yamato. It had to do with his approach.

I asked him int he QT his thoughts on Yamato. He made a semi-case of points that suggested a scum mindset. I said I agreed. When Skanjab decided to unveil his case in the thread; he actually fleshed it out significantly more than the QT. That effort is something I *FIRMLY* associate with town.
i.e. he had the confidence that his read was right due to QT talk, and then put more effort into the case. I find it hard-pressed to believe scum would have a mindset capable to do this.

Skanjab is town.

Wait what?
Assuming you are town and Skan is scum;

If i was in Skan's position and someone told me my case on a townie had merit i would totally expand it and post it in thread.

Did Skan push the lynch on D1? Did he push it on D2?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:00 GMT
#2699
On October 22 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 09:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Two things that made me think yamato is town:
(1) I don't think yamato would have confidency to attack me first thing in the game as scum.
(2) I don't think yamato was overly trying to look townie and/or was scared of something (like he usually does as scum).
(3) Yamato has been fairly "useless" in other games aswell as town. That's not alignment indicative for him. (1) and (2) are.

-rayn

(1)Clearly, Yamato attacked Koshi via clear discredit attempt.

(2) So at least you can admit he was not overly trying to look townie.
Where is this town credit coming from then?

Did he really try to progress the game? His attitude between Champions game/this one are MILES apart.
His attitude between Noir/this game are MILES apart.

Do you disagree?

Probably because the Champions game. duh..
Do i look like i put the same effort into this game i put into the Champions game?
Is that alignment indicative?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:09 GMT
#2702
Well we have 2 games of data from CR. One town and one scum game. As he seems to keep posting we can judge the slot on D3 by his posts as people seem to be disagreeing with me on yamato. I understand i can be wrong on this.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:13 GMT
#2704
Btw Mocsta, to your second point. Koshi's post on Skanjab1s was really bad. I understand that if it was made by me yamato would insta-lynch me. That's only fair and imo pointed towards him being town.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:14 GMT
#2705
On October 22 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
What is your current read in vayne?

And onegu was town cos et went after him, right?

A couple of hours ago:
" I do not really see how you are playing. You totally stopped in posting here and your posts in thread are weak and you do not sound confident in your reads at all. It's not Vayne'ish to ask "who should i vote for". "

Undecided.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:16 GMT
#2707
I haven't looked into Onegu since i thought he was scum from his multiple apologies on D1.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:19 GMT
#2709
On October 22 2013 10:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 10:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Btw Mocsta, to your second point. Koshi's post on Skanjab1s was really bad. I understand that if it was made by me yamato would insta-lynch me. That's only fair and imo pointed towards him being town.

-rayn

Yeah but me and a couple others also wanted confirmation to whether koshi made that case.

The difference with yam is that he followed through with a discredit. Why would town need to say that? How does it help promote a positive sentiment? Further he doesn't even state why it's scummy enough to warrant a discrrdit.

That's what yamato does.:p
To me that looks more townie than scummy.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 01:26 GMT
#2711
I dunno what to think of D2 lynch. Stutters was useless and his pretty much only comment in QT was "rayn/Koshi are town". I know he sheeps me as scum, he even told me to bus him for it in Noir as he did that in Basterd game.

D1 lynch was absolutely horrible, and i don't even care to look at it because it was probably town-driven as i am pretty sure Cephiro is town. Who was the third wagon?

I dunno, i can read JAT tomorrow if i have time. Vayne will reveal his true colors at some point. I can reread HF too, but atm from what i remember he is town.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 04:38 GMT
#2740
I have a problem. Why is Grackaroni saying to multiple people that they "tried to move the lynch from yamato/CR to Stutters"? That's a fucking misrepresentation.

Although this is weird:
(2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them.

Why was this a bad move? Do you think it's the absolute trith CR is scum? In case he is not, why was it a mistake to lynch Stutters over him?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#2749
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn
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October 22 2013 04:56 GMT
#2752
Oh god. What's the point of sacrificing 2 scum when CR is probably gonna die anyways tomorrow if he is scum?
You are seriously saying Skan saved CR and outed himself in the process when it's kinda guaranteed that a player as CR's caliber (no offense) will get lynched tomorrow if he is scum?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 04:58 GMT
#2754
On October 22 2013 13:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn

I did. Because you weren't specifically addressing Yamato but kept pushing forward other lynch options. I even asked you guys why you didn't want to lynch Yamato and nobody answered.

That's bullshit. I answered you as soon as you asked me. And your question was "why are you trying to dvert the lynch from yamato". To be specific:
On October 22 2013 04:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi.
On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened

Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's.

That being said i think HF is town.

-rayn

On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?

If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)

Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad.

Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me.


Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!)

CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._.

not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._.

how scummy was yamato before he replaced out?

Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.

Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him.

I dunno. I don't think Holyflare is scum. Apparently Koshi thinks so. We have not discussed our townreads a lot.
We are not pushing CR lynch away. Stutters is a better target imo.

-rayn[/y]

Same bullshit.

[i]-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:01 GMT
#2759
On October 22 2013 13:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 13:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. What's the point of sacrificing 2 scum when CR is probably gonna die anyways tomorrow if he is scum?
You are seriously saying Skan saved CR and outed himself in the process when it's kinda guaranteed that a player as CR's caliber (no offense) will get lynched tomorrow if he is scum?

-rayn

I don't know what scum abilities each player has. Scum is in a shit position. Town is confirming itself just through roles and pretty soon other people will be ruled out from posts. scum can't afford losing anyone else at this point.

Did you even read my post? Do you think it's better for Skan to look better in comparsion to out himself by saving CR, who if scum, will get lynched tomorrow 100%?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:05 GMT
#2767
What's my power?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:07 GMT
#2770
I thought these people were Gryffindors...
rayn
ceph
vayne

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:09 GMT
#2776
On October 22 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I thought these people were Gryffindors...
rayn
ceph
vayne

-rayn


sorry i mean hufflepuff, wishful thinking I was in a useful house

So how do you know JAT's power?
He's also a Gryffindor...

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:12 GMT
#2782
HF if you keep track of powers and somehow know a lot of people's powers it's extremely unlikely you miss someone is alive in the game. Just saying..

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:15 GMT
#2790
On October 22 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not keeping a track? I just know them off the top of my head.

So noone can be lying? Everything is confirmed? That's why the extra vote must be in those 6 people right?

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:19 GMT
#2804
On October 22 2013 14:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not keeping a track? I just know them off the top of my head.

So noone can be lying? Everything is confirmed? That's why the extra vote must be in those 6 people right?

-rayn


No, but I'm in the game trying to work things out from the top of my head. Obviously people can be lying.

What's the point of your argument?
It's like me saying "these three people are scum and we must lynch them" knowing that i can't prove that and that my reasoning is flimsy in the first place..

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:29 GMT
#2814
I give you that the secret vote is from mafia.
We do not have a secret vote and i highly doubt Cephiro has one.

And I doubt it's Vayne/Onegu as I think they would have posted between sometime around the lynch and now.

This is fucking idiotic because at least Vayne has been active in house QT between lynch and now.

-rayn
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October 22 2013 05:35 GMT
#2823
On October 22 2013 14:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I give you that the secret vote is from mafia.
We do not have a secret vote and i highly doubt Cephiro has one.

And I doubt it's Vayne/Onegu as I think they would have posted between sometime around the lynch and now.

This is fucking idiotic because at least Vayne has been active in house QT between lynch and now.

-rayn

well I don't know that. can you check if he just lied about not having power? Because that would be hilarious.

No claim about powers anywhere. Though his reads have been kinda off this game compared to usual.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:31 GMT
#2876
I am not mad at all about a VA flip.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:45 GMT
#2879
btw. Vayne has a STRONG scumread on Grack.

Should I paraphrase everything he said in QT? I think that is handy.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:47 GMT
#2880
Ohyeah, now I remember why I thought Vayne was scum. Why the fuck did I not read his QT filter rofl.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:49 GMT
#2883
Yeah, but already replaced both Zaragon and yamato who were scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:49 GMT
#2884
It got to end somewhere.

Right BH?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:53 GMT
#2886
Mostly when you ask for it or are inactive. Not for getting banned.
Don't know for sure though.

But Vayne gave Pandain 100% townread after Pandain first post. I remember thinking that was superstrange and I made a case on Vayne. But people didn't believe me D:. After the Pandain flip I should have revisited that. But sure. Vayne will flip. yay!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 08:56 GMT
#2887
btw BH, you are no marv. You got a 7 page filter and you only trolled, defended people and rng'ed shit. Also claimed doc...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 09:18 GMT
#2890
Hufflepuff are so scummy.
Grack looks really bad if VA flips town. VA has been on Grack ass since end D1.
Mattchew looks so scummy to me. Insane.
Hopeless looks a bit scummy to me. But he has that potion thingie.
Storrzerg looks scummy to me. But he has Housechecks that need to add up.
Holyflare looks town to me.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 09:27 GMT
#2892
Unless:
Storrzerg is scum
Scum framer targetted scum
GF

But yeah, most likely 1 scum I guess.

Maybe also Greencheck SK?

Nobody knows.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 09:50 GMT
#2896
Hmm. CR needs to die. It might be that he is the scummer with extra vote. He was active.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 10:05 GMT
#2897
rayn thinks scum lies within Matt, Onegu, JAT, Vayne, Hopeless, with a possibility of CR.
Koshi thinks scum lies within Matt, Storr, Vayne, Hopeless, CR with far outsiders JAT/Onegu/Cephiro
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 10:05 GMT
#2898
The hydra roars.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 10:36 GMT
#2901
Also, we are indecisive about BH. rayn thinks he is town though. Don't know why.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 14:14 GMT
#2902
Do we like the idea that when Vayne flips scum it was because Hosts didn't want to replace 4 scummers this game?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 14:32 GMT
#2907
I like gaming the host. But it has never ever worked in my favor though.

YET
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#2931
syllogism: Have yamato/CR and Onegu interacted with each other in your house QT?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 22 2013 17:10 GMT
#2950
Shoot Grack.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#2954
As if that is the only problem with that list.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 18:01 GMT
#2968
But still nobody in Hufflepuff can tell us why they have townreads on each other. Except for "because" and "active".
And now it seems Grack (and I guess that means HufflePuff, unless the 600 posts in the QT are about birds and bees) has scumreads on everybody outside his house except for JAT, BH and Snowman.


Impressive House. Impressive.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 22 2013 18:10 GMT
#2973
On October 23 2013 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But still nobody in Hufflepuff can tell us why they have townreads on each other. Except for "because" and "active".
And now it seems Grack (and I guess that means HufflePuff, unless the 600 posts in the QT are about birds and bees) has scumreads on everybody outside his house except for JAT, BH and Snowman.


Impressive House. Impressive.

Don't forget the syllogism! I had him nailed as town ever since early night 1.

I didn't say I had scum reads on all of those people, I said that was the list of people I think the scum are in. I still need to narrow it down from there. CR/Vayne should be dead so I should have pretty good odds.

I didn't forget him obviously, it made your confirmed town list look very "impressive". Because look at your filter, you have put VA down as town for the entire game. So you must be very certain about BH, JAT and Snowman.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 22 2013 18:35 GMT
#2983
On October 23 2013 03:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But still nobody in Hufflepuff can tell us why they have townreads on each other. Except for "because" and "active".
And now it seems Grack (and I guess that means HufflePuff, unless the 600 posts in the QT are about birds and bees) has scumreads on everybody outside his house except for JAT, BH and Snowman.


Impressive House. Impressive.

Don't forget the syllogism! I had him nailed as town ever since early night 1.

I didn't say I had scum reads on all of those people, I said that was the list of people I think the scum are in. I still need to narrow it down from there. CR/Vayne should be dead so I should have pretty good odds.

I didn't forget him obviously, it made your confirmed town list look very "impressive". Because look at your filter, you have put VA down as town for the entire game. So you must be very certain about BH, JAT and Snowman.

I said one thing about VA day1 and then toyed around with the hosts modkilling instead of replacing him.

I had no problem with you trolling the entire game till you decided to post your "reads". I thought you were trolling as town just as you did D1 in Thug. And I didn't care you continued to do so after this N1.

But town Grack would not post those reads without further explanation, those reads are an extension of your trolling. We had you as null but you just showed color. There is a time to troll and a time to be serious as town. As scum it's just trolling trough the entire game with some random tryhard posts like in Golden Sun. Going to fakeclaim vet any time soon Grack?

Sorry. I just reread Thug Mafia and I suggest everybody does that and compares that with this game.

Grack is scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 18:47 GMT
#2989
On October 23 2013 03:37 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Storr can u still read you and mattchew's old mason topic?

Also, Who is mattchew masoning now?


uh i see no reason why i can't

Can you answer the second question?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:16 GMT
#3016
On October 23 2013 04:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
PS Holyflare scum he knew I targetted syllo

Explain a bit better please. I don't get it.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:23 GMT
#3029
I agree with snow. Why Syllo over a dead target? Nobody would think that the watched target would survive.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:27 GMT
#3033
On October 23 2013 04:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 04:23 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I agree with snow. Why Syllo over a dead target? Nobody would think that the watched target would survive.

when that target was modconfirmed town? One Jailer or busdriver and syllo wakes up fresh as a daisy.

But all action on Syllo? Toad or Last Argument is way more likely.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:28 GMT
#3034
On October 23 2013 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Syllo is confirmed town, I presumed he was a watcher and so wanted to confirm who the fuck was visiting a confirmed town, ie. saving, doing whatever.

If sn0 says "I know what happened" at the start of day 2 after all this shit then I presume he knows how the 2 0.5's died. Therefore, they targeted syllo. How is that hard to understand? Do people's brains not work under the assumption of logic?

Dude if you think he is a watcher that kills visitors, then how did syllo survive? Another medic? You just said you don't believe in 2 medics.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#3052
On October 23 2013 04:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
Man we'd be absolutely demolishing this game if BH healed marv. HAUMPH.

BH is scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:45 GMT
#3060
Similarity in town / scum roles:

1 )If Holyflare casts his vote tomorrow we know that there is a town +1 vote. We know there is a scum + 1 vote.

2) Mocsta claimed to be town Pandain? I don't get that yet though. Roles don't look alike -_-

3) Scum/Town lovers

4) BH scum doc / snow town doc

5) Housecop town / scum normal cop

6) Town vigi / scum vigi with 0.5kp in day and 0.5kp in night.


Holyflare is town. We are looking for the summer that can do that +1 vote.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:48 GMT
#3063
Hmm. Unless Holyflare can do 1 secret and 1 visible vote.
A lot of roles have multiple skills to use.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#3065
On October 23 2013 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 04:48 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hmm. Unless Holyflare can do 1 secret and 1 visible vote.
A lot of roles have multiple skills to use.


I wasn't here at all during that vote.

Yeah I said somewhere before it could be just CR casting that vote. Let's pray he dies tonight.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#3067
Grack will you be here after the flips?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#3069
CR claimed VT.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#3075
On October 23 2013 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah I'll be here

You have been given candy. Make sure you paraphrase what it says as soon as possible ;D
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#3077
On October 23 2013 04:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
Actually scum doc makes a lot of sense atm considering the amount of KP flying around. Although claiming to have RNG'd it and thrown it at me may be risky if there were trackers or w/e.

Yeah I wonder why the fuck scum medic didn't save one of the three scummers that died. If he can't save himself he must have used it on one of the remaining 2.

That is strange.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:55 GMT
#3078
On October 23 2013 04:53 Grackaroni wrote:
If you shot me...

Why would we ask you to paraphrase a bullet?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#3085
On October 23 2013 04:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 04:53 Grackaroni wrote:
If you shot me...

Why would we ask you to paraphrase a bullet?

what would you actually want me to paraphrase though.

The candy...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#3086
On October 23 2013 04:59 Grackaroni wrote:
lol I literally said in QT that there was going to be that guy, probably Koshi, that demands for me to post logs.

THE CAAANDDDDYYYYY
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:00 GMT
#3087
secret candy :D
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:03 GMT
#3093
TURN SOMEBODY IN MAFIA GOO
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:04 GMT
#3095
On October 23 2013 05:03 Grackaroni wrote:
THERE WAS NO CANDY!

Sure there was. You got 0 messages? No lies now Grackie.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#3098
Why is Grack not saying what the candie did?

He is scum. He is scum. He is scum.

VA TOLD GRYPH QT GRACK WAS SCUM

GRACK IS SCUM
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#3099
Gryffindor QT that is.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 22 2013 20:14 GMT
#3106
and where did Vayne get this wealth of knowledge from?[/QUOTE]
On October 23 2013 05:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why is Grack not saying what the candie did?

He is scum. He is scum. He is scum.

VA TOLD GRYPH QT GRACK WAS SCUM

GRACK IS SCUM

and where did Vayne get this wealth of knowledge from?

They played scum together in Golden Sun.

This is what VA said paraphrased:
The skanjab case from Grack makes my scumread on Grack even stronger, in our QT in Golden Sun he loved to make big random cases on weaker players using their filter to make them look bad with coincidental evidence.

Look at Grack filter from Thug Life Mafia where he died day 2. Compare it with this one. I linked to it during last night.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:17 GMT
#3108
Sn0_Man did BH get hit?
Because it makes 0 sense that the self claimed doc without CC did not get a shot
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:20 GMT
#3117
On October 23 2013 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sn0_Man did BH get hit?
Because it makes 0 sense that the self claimed doc without CC did not get a shot

I do not recieve hit notifications only notification that my KP was used.

I'm guessing yes since otherwise why nobody dead lol.

I agree that is most likely.
But Grack isn't on that page for some strange reason.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:21 GMT
#3118
Grack
I can't find your roleclaim. repeat please?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:24 GMT
#3124
On October 23 2013 05:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack
I can't find your roleclaim. repeat please?

Fuck it. I'm dayvig. I have a day shot and can shoot one person voting for me. It only goes off if my target is scum. Vote me right now or you are lynched.

That's quite epic.

I am Ron Weasley.
I have 3 retarded candies.

You really want to test me?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:25 GMT
#3125
On October 23 2013 05:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack
I can't find your roleclaim. repeat please?

Fuck it. I'm dayvig. I have a day shot and can shoot one person voting for me. It only goes off if my target is scum. Vote me right now or you are lynched.

Does the person you shoot get a notification?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:25 GMT
#3126
Koshi stfu, i deal with this.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:26 GMT
#3131
Do you really want to shoot a confirmed town like us?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:26 GMT
#3132
rayn, I want him to shoot scum not us. The entire thread thinks we are town. We never get lynched.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#3140
On October 23 2013 05:26 Grackaroni wrote:
no balls...

##Vote: Grackaroni
Go.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:29 GMT
#3143
Okay so our vote stands.
That's a fucking retarded fakeclaim.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#3148
On October 23 2013 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:
VT. I said it earlier

Nope that is a lie. Please try again.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:35 GMT
#3149
Time to be honest. We have doc claims anyway.

(btw there is no way that there are 2 docs with mafia KP being 1)
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:37 GMT
#3151
Well, it being non seq makes it maybe believable. Guess we shouldn't lynch BH after all. If he doesn't die next night rofl...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:39 GMT
#3153
On October 23 2013 05:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:35 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Time to be honest. We have doc claims anyway.

(btw there is no way that there are 2 docs with mafia KP being 1)

lol like really. I'm mafia for being on the wrong page and thinking storr could have been shot. Your explanation is that Sn0 Man Healed BH. But there can't be 2 docs. The logic in this one.

Hmm. You are scum for many reasons.

But you are not a VT for a reason I can "prove". Now are you scum or blue?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 22 2013 20:41 GMT
#3156
On October 23 2013 05:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 05:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 05:35 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Time to be honest. We have doc claims anyway.

(btw there is no way that there are 2 docs with mafia KP being 1)

lol like really. I'm mafia for being on the wrong page and thinking storr could have been shot. Your explanation is that Sn0 Man Healed BH. But there can't be 2 docs. The logic in this one.

Hmm. You are scum for many reasons.

But you are not a VT for a reason I can "prove". Now are you scum or blue?

I'll run with lynch all liars. I hereby request proof from raynpelikonoshi that Grackaroni is not a VT.

So you know he is a VT how?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:45 GMT
#3161
HufflePuff fucking START TALKING.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:54 GMT
#3174
On October 23 2013 05:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 23 2013 05:50 StorrZerg wrote:
1 scum in RC

HNNNNNG HOWD U NOT CHECK SLYTHERIN

Alright I guess we lynch chairman ray now.


figured they would have the biggest chance of getting hit with crap
so went with the house with least
If RC came up 0 scum, then RC would be able to trust each other in a priv QT

So dead players don' count anymore?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:55 GMT
#3175
On October 23 2013 05:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
HufflePuff fucking START TALKING.

seriously show me the proof.

Ultimately it is my dying. Hoping that my QT comes through.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:57 GMT
#3180
On October 23 2013 05:57 StorrZerg wrote:
There is 1 alive scum in RC

So you got back that there are 2 scums?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 20:59 GMT
#3185
Grack are you a VT?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:01 GMT
#3192
Also Sno_man listen to me for once if you are town.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:02 GMT
#3195
On October 23 2013 06:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack are you a VT?

-rayn

I am a VT

That's funny because our candy only affects if you have a role of some sort...
Explain?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:06 GMT
#3204
On October 23 2013 06:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:02 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:00 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack are you a VT?

-rayn

I am a VT

That's funny because our candy only affects if you have a role of some sort...
Explain?

-rayn

Who'd you candy yesterday? or is that a secret?

Ourselves. We learned LoneMeow did something N1.

(yes we were disappointed as well)
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:07 GMT
#3206
On October 23 2013 05:59 StorrZerg wrote:
So i had convo with mod about my power.
Turns out dead are not suppose to count, but palmar was counted in my first house check.

Dead are not counted in house check, but if people "infiltrate" they would show up under the check (this is my assumption)
I would assume this would be a power to eves drop on a QT

so my check showed 1 mafia 2 town

Why wouldn't hosts fix this... Slackers not reading the thread? But I do not believe you would lie about contact with the hosts so arffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:09 GMT
#3210
We are going to full role claim now.

We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves).
There are three possibilities:
1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone]
2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it]
3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens

Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:10 GMT
#3214
He turns into a canary if he is Vanilla.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:11 GMT
#3217
On October 23 2013 06:09 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
We are going to full role claim now.

We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves).
There are three possibilities:
1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone]
2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it]
3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens

Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla.

-rayn



you said 3 candies i thought? whats the last?

It's the (3).
It's random.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:12 GMT
#3219
random between 1 and 2, or if vanilla then it's 3.
like koshi said.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:13 GMT
#3224
On October 23 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
We are going to full role claim now.

We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves).
There are three possibilities:
1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone]
2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it]
3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens

Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla.

-rayn

There are 2 possibilities. Either I am Miller or you are lying. If you are lying and I flip VT do you agree to be policy lynched regardless of alignment for bad play?

I don't think you are a miller.
If you got a vanilla PM i am okay with lynching you (because i do not believe you). If you flip town vanilla you can lynch us the next day.

Deal?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:14 GMT
#3225
On October 23 2013 06:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
So 1 or 2 are random if the target isn't vanilla, but its 3 if the target is vanilla.

yes
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:15 GMT
#3229
On October 23 2013 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
..............

Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:17 GMT
#3235
On October 23 2013 06:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
We are going to full role claim now.

We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves).
There are three possibilities:
1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone]
2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it]
3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens

Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla.

-rayn

There are 2 possibilities. Either I am Miller or you are lying. If you are lying and I flip VT do you agree to be policy lynched regardless of alignment for bad play?

I don't think you are a miller.
If you got a vanilla PM i am okay with lynching you (because i do not believe you). If you flip town vanilla you can lynch us the next day.

Deal?

-rayn

Well I can't. But deal. If you are lying though in order to get me lynched and you are town I will push to policy lynch you in every game I play with you. You literally dont have a case on me.

wtf are you talking about. You claim to be vanilla.
I claim you can't be vanilla because of my role.
your defence is so bullshit
wtf man? you so scum.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:23 GMT
#3248
On October 23 2013 06:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:15 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
We are going to full role claim now.

We give candy to someone during the night (can target ourselves).
There are three possibilities:
1) They get to know some random person who visits someone. [N1 we tagetted ourselves--found out Lonemeow visited someone]
2) roleblock/0.5KP on someone the following night [we used this on Grack on N2 -- he claimed it]
3) if the target is vanilla, nothing happens

Now Grack is clearly lying about being vanilla.

-rayn

There are 2 possibilities. Either I am Miller or you are lying. If you are lying and I flip VT do you agree to be policy lynched regardless of alignment for bad play?

I don't think you are a miller.
If you got a vanilla PM i am okay with lynching you (because i do not believe you). If you flip town vanilla you can lynch us the next day.

Deal?

-rayn

Well I can't. But deal. If you are lying though in order to get me lynched and you are town I will push to policy lynch you in every game I play with you. You literally dont have a case on me.

wtf are you talking about. You claim to be vanilla.
I claim you can't be vanilla because of my role.
your defence is so bullshit
wtf man? you so scum.

-rayn

I am vanilla. I'm just saying that if you are lying as town to push your shitty/non-existant case than I will not be pleased.

Why the fuck are you not saying i am 100% lying if you are vanilöla, based on my claim?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:29 GMT
#3256
On October 23 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
i don't even know what's going on any more

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:31 GMT
#3261
On October 23 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
i don't even know what's going on any more

Grack claimed scum.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 21:40 GMT
#3266
Hey Grack where did you go? Who are your scumreads? The list you posted earlier was full of shit.

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:03 GMT
#3298
On October 23 2013 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
You have no idea how I scumhunt. Since when is not claiming a scumtell? That is bullshit Holy and you know it.

I think everybody should fully claim. atm there are 2 doctor claims out there anyway. If your role is really good we can have docs protect you. If your role needs secrecy then, well I don't even know why a role would need secrecy at this point, we are looking for a scum RB and a scum +1 vote.

Can you tell us the reason why you want to keep your role secret?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#3299
That being said. 2 docs. Really guys? And 1 doc got a RB on night 2? And his target didn't die? ...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#3301
rofl. so the wholse hufflepuff bullshit has been bullshit right?
what was the intention of this?
If there is one scum in Gryffindor why is it not Pandain who has flipped scum?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#3305
On October 23 2013 06:42 Mattchew wrote:
Storr is mason, im house cop, i told him i would check raven claw and the number of paragraphs i wrote would be the number of scum... I forgot about that plan

What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum

I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result

Ps im susan bones and storr is cedric diggerary doo


THIS! FUCKING THIS½!

WHY IS THERE ANOTHER SCUM THAN PANDAIN!

bullshitbullshitbullshit!!!!!!!
who is lying?


-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#3307
On October 23 2013 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:04 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
rofl. so the wholse hufflepuff bullshit has been bullshit right?
what was the intention of this?
If there is one scum in Gryffindor why is it not Pandain who has flipped scum?

-rayn


the mods changed it so that it only reflects alive people so pandain doesn't count

fuck you the check is from N2. Liar.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#3308
EBWOP: from N1
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#3309
On October 23 2013 07:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
You have no idea how I scumhunt. Since when is not claiming a scumtell? That is bullshit Holy and you know it.

I think everybody should fully claim. atm there are 2 doctor claims out there anyway. If your role is really good we can have docs protect you. If your role needs secrecy then, well I don't even know why a role would need secrecy at this point, we are looking for a scum RB and a scum +1 vote.

Can you tell us the reason why you want to keep your role secret?

Can you tell me the benefit in claiming? I don't see it. If I was scum I would just claim VT or any given fakeclaim. You won't find out who is the RB or the +1 if I claim.

Not that easy for scum to claim a blue role after 2 cycles I think. Scum could all claim VT but then we can trust the current blue roles more. What is the downside of not mass claiming? Remember that everybody will need to do it.
In the past a lot of towns massclaimed to flush out scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#3312
##unvote:
##Vote: Mattchew


liar.

[i]-rayn[/b]
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#3315
On October 23 2013 07:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:04 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
That being said. 2 docs. Really guys? And 1 doc got a RB on night 2? And his target didn't die? ...

Do tell. Where did the scum KP go?

BH obviously. But snowman saved him.

The problem is the BH claiming RB, if scum has RB, why not kill syllo and make Hopeless look bad because the potion got lost again?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#3318
What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum


LIAR!!!!!
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#3319
Die MAttche scum liar.

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#3322
Eeuhm rayn explain this in our QT cuz I am also a bit lost 0o
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:14 GMT
#3323
On October 23 2013 07:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:11 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 07:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 23 2013 07:04 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
That being said. 2 docs. Really guys? And 1 doc got a RB on night 2? And his target didn't die? ...

Do tell. Where did the scum KP go?

BH obviously. But snowman saved him.

The problem is the BH claiming RB, if scum has RB, why not kill syllo and make Hopeless look bad because the potion got lost again?


what about town RB?

BH claimed doc and there was no CC. Which townie was going to RB their doc?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:14 GMT
#3324
There is one scum in our house QT.
Pandain has flipped scum.
Matt is house cop.
There is STILL ONE SCUM IN OUR QT!

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#3327
Mattchew checked on N1, Pandain was not dead on N1.

LIAR!
SCUM!
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#3329
On October 23 2013 07:14 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
There is one scum in our house QT.
Pandain has flipped scum.
Matt is house cop.
There is STILL ONE SCUM IN OUR QT!

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-rayn

N1 hosts made a mistake and counted Palmar. So it was 5 town and 1 scum.
I don't fully understand when the mistake was explained to them but
N2 they checked gryff and got back 2 town and 1 scum.

What's the problem?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#3330
On October 23 2013 07:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:14 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
There is one scum in our house QT.
Pandain has flipped scum.
Matt is house cop.
There is STILL ONE SCUM IN OUR QT!

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-rayn


how have you not got it, if they were lying that could quite clearly make it up and say 2 mafia to follow their day 1 but obviously mods have changed it so it only shows alive people???

They have bullshitted all game. This is fucking bullshit.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:17 GMT
#3333
rayn gtfo. Seriously gtfo
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:18 GMT
#3337
I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result

He is saying he did check us on N1....

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:19 GMT
#3340
On October 23 2013 07:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result

He is saying he did check us on N1....

-rayn

No he says that he told Storr in their mason that he would check Ravenclaw N2.

But he lied and he checked Gryff.


Townies and their lying. Tssss!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:20 GMT
#3343
so there is one scum in our house then?
It's not Cephiro so:
##Unvote:
##Vote: JAT
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:22 GMT
#3347
bECAUSE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS DID NOT LYNCH HIM ON D1.
NOW LYNCH JAT.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#3352
Fucking "why not Cephiro whine" when you ahve not AGAIN FUCKING LISTENED TO ME FOREVER! FUCK YOU IDIOTS!

.....[/end rant]

Do whatever you want. I am totally done with this shit. Fuck that Palmar D1 lynch.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#3355
On October 23 2013 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
bECAUSE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS DID NOT LYNCH HIM ON D1.
NOW LYNCH JAT.

-rayn


HOW CAN YOU CLAIM GRACK IS LYING ABOUT VT BUT THEN SWITCH TO JAT, HUFFLEPUFF ALSO HAD A SCUM REMEMBER?!?!!??!

This literally makes no sense, wtf is wrong with you.

yeah, our real role is this

We have candybag
There are 3 different candies and we don't know which one we will get. This is what they do:
1) They change somebody in a canary bird (harmless) but you get message.
2) They RB you next night unless you pay 0.5 HP
3) They reveal that X player did a night action. (but not what night action)
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#3356
Also it was my idea to pressure Grack.

This isn't on rayn.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:31 GMT
#3360
On October 23 2013 07:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Also it was my idea to pressure Grack.

This isn't on rayn.

fuck this game

Well, the joke was only up for 2 hours. It didn't change anything. Dnu why you are upset. I am quite happy about how it went.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:42 GMT
#3364
stfu Snow. If Cephiro is scum rayn nailed 3 scum on day 1 and you lynched his townread. Start listening to his reads.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:45 GMT
#3367
hmm yeah. But still. The reasoning for why they are scum is always there as well. It's sometimes on others to find out which reasons are the best. He gives a shitton reasons on a lot of people why they could be scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:46 GMT
#3368
On October 23 2013 07:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Just because his image was amusing doesn't mean him screaming at the thread for 3 pages baselessly was reasonable.

And grack you had 3 different people telling different stories about your weird check/mason/whatever bullshit. All you guys managed to do was fuck with the thread. Try helping scum a bit less next time.

It was my image D:
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:54 GMT
#3377
I need to focus my thought. Sleep first.
The reason I did this btw Grack are:
1) You haven't been pushing any reads. You are really passive this game. I don't know if you agree with that yourself, but you are lacking thought behind all your reads. Those reads on N2 were coming from nowhere, there is no base for it in your filter.
2) VA really did say he was certain you are scum.
3) You love to fakeclaim as scum. So if you are scum I was pretty sure you had a fakeclaim ready, because you love to prepare shit in the scum QT.

I still think you are scum for reason 1 & 2. Sadly 3 didn't happen but if there is really a scum in our House you were warned. But then again you didn't make a drama about this so really meh...
_________________________________________________________________
Grack could I please please please ask of you to tell me why both StorrZerg and Mattchew aren't scum together.

Mattchew lied to Storrzerg N2 about the copclaim even though they have been buddying each other up since forever without reasoning. Why have that extra lie? I guess you can never be 100% sure but ...

I can't shake the feeling they might be both scum. I also can't shake the feeling that Gryffindor might be scumfree. But I would love to see Cephiro fully role claim. I will push him on that.

Cephiro
You have said so much things about your role that it is getting insane to make a lie about that now. Could you just please explain your role entirely? At this point if we can put you on certain town it would really be more powerful than any thing you can do I think. It must be JAT that is scum or Mattchew is lieing or there is a framer but with the RB and the extra vote...


I think Blazinghand, Mattchew and StorrZerg are scum. So many possible big plays between those. That extra vote on Stutters could be TradeMark Blazinghand, Master of deadline Shenanigans.


That's were I am currently. It's a bit crazy. But I like crazy.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:58 GMT
#3379
So its either BH, JAT and Grack/CR(/Cephiro maybe...)
or
BH, StorrZerg and Mattchew


Because I really don't believe 2 docs in a 1KP scumgame and there isn't an SK it seems..

Like somewhere there.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:58 GMT
#3380
On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game.

last comment on this game.
I have only accused Cephiro and ET on this gme D1.
Thank you.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 22:58 GMT
#3381
Good night.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#3391
On October 23 2013 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:
raynkosh if i am the common scum between your two theories why isn't your vote on me? If you think "no matter what bh must be scum" you should be voting me

You are not scum Koshi is just unable to see it.

-rayn



On October 23 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is my view of things (this is honestly my last post tonight):

- JAT:
There is this weird comment in our QT from D1:
Something like "oh good, rayn and Koshi.. this hydra is bs"
That does not feel right. Would lynch him asap.

- Grack:
See the tone.
From:
"THIS GUYS IS SCUM, AND THIS GUY IS SCUM"
to
"I dunno, maybe it's your fakeclaim? I am vanilla"
Bullshittttt!!!!

Lynch.

- MAttchew:
Mattchew lied to Storrzerg N2 about the copclaim even though they have been buddying each other up since forever. Why have that extra lie?

-rayn


filter.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 08:34 GMT
#3522
Well, with those 2 flipping I would say respect the copcheck and lynch Cephiro/JAT. With a rolecop on mafia already flipping I am going to keep my vote JAT, because Cephiro knew about my role day 2. But I dnu, there are so many powerroles in this game. Cephiro can still be a scum powerrole.

But expect me to be somewhat afkish for the rest of the day. Open to questions etc, obviously those 2 modkills aren't both scum because scum is allowed to use outthread communication.. But they were also masoned so I don't really get it.

Anyway, most likely they are both town. I saw them as scum before but only as a team. It doesn't make sense that 1 is scum and 1 not.

But I found Mattchew more scummy than Storrzerg, I can still vote CR if people don't believe the copclaim. But I think that is a bad thing to do. Atm believe copclaim and lynch into gryffindor. 3 modkills give us 72 hours less time for mistakes.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 09:02 GMT
#3524
He said he only gets notified when he did a revenge kill. He does not get notified on a succesful safe.

On October 23 2013 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Sn0_Man did BH get hit?
Because it makes 0 sense that the self claimed doc without CC did not get a shot

I do not recieve hit notifications only notification that my KP was used.

I'm guessing yes since otherwise why nobody dead lol.

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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 10:34 GMT
#3527
Yeah it's nice you have a greencheck on me. But I don't understand why you don't want to lynch 100% scum. Or you don't believe the copclaim.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 23 2013 13:11 GMT
#3546
Don't know why we like JAT over Cephiro. Can some1 remind me?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 23 2013 13:17 GMT
#3548
Oh ok. Missed that shot.

Yeah I can lynch Cephiro.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 13:19 GMT
#3549
If somebody else shot LM you better call it before the end of the Day. (31 hours)

Would make sense that scum has another big powerrole.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 15:00 GMT
#3562
On October 23 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 23:29 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why are we lynching Cephiro now?

Who else could ne scum scum in gryffendor? JAT is a possibility to me but nothing really sticks out to me.

JAT claims to have shot LoneMeow. There is no CC.
So it's Cephiro or raynko.

Lynching into Hufflepuff is silly atm. Imo the cop is scum or Cephiro is scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 21:37 GMT
#3619
On October 24 2013 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd go with: Ceph investigated rayn, learned about his candy giving role, tried to fake-claim it subtly.

This is what he said:
He investigated us, said he got only our role name. Somehow he knew we had candy as power. I asked him about it, he said "it's obvious given your role name". Then, later on he revealed that it was also an affiliation check.

So he claims to be an role-name&affiliation cop and have guessed our rolepowers name.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 23 2013 22:09 GMT
#3640
On October 24 2013 06:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 06:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 24 2013 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd go with: Ceph investigated rayn, learned about his candy giving role, tried to fake-claim it subtly.

This is what he said:
He investigated us, said he got only our role name. Somehow he knew we had candy as power. I asked him about it, he said "it's obvious given your role name". Then, later on he revealed that it was also an affiliation check.

So he claims to be an role-name&affiliation cop and have guessed our rolepowers name.

-rayn

I ctrl+f'd your filter for "candy". The first instance is ceph's quote, where you proceed to tear him a new one for stealing your case. Have you mentioned your role at all in the QT or to anyone in pm's/masons or anything else? How did ceph know about the candy?

No to all questions.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 23 2013 22:33 GMT
#3648
So Cephiro is looking to all other possibilities but the one where the house cop is lying (which is the most obvious one if he is town). hmm....

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 23 2013 22:47 GMT
#3650
On October 24 2013 07:41 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 07:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So Cephiro is looking to all other possibilities but the one where the house cop is lying (which is the most obvious one if he is town). hmm....

-rayn


.... Because I have a greencheck on him? -__-

So the only possibility with the framer is that i was framed, right?
Why could scum not frame the house cop on N2?
Why is this not a possibility?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 23 2013 22:48 GMT
#3651
Especially when you have crumbed your check on D2... *sigh*

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 22:57 GMT
#3653
When Cephiro flips scum next thing to do is to lynch Grack who called my reads D1 - N1 awful.
I had 3 scumreads and they were Cephiro, ET and Pandain.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 23 2013 23:18 GMT
#3657
On October 24 2013 08:01 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 07:47 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:41 Cephiro wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So Cephiro is looking to all other possibilities but the one where the house cop is lying (which is the most obvious one if he is town). hmm....

-rayn


.... Because I have a greencheck on him? -__-

So the only possibility with the framer is that i was framed, right?
Why could scum not frame the house cop on N2?
Why is this not a possibility?

-rayn


I don't consider that Matt was framed a possibility because he's being modkilled for out-of-game communication. Scum wouldn't get modkilled for that.

I also said that it is possible that I got framed N2. Or then you got framed N1 (falsifying my check), or N2 (falsifying matt's check to one scum), or I'm not a sane cop.

How on earth does framing you affect to your checks?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:06 GMT
#3675
Why is Grackaroni so hesitant to give opinions.
By his posts i must be scum, but hey, let's lynch somewhere else and/or wait for syllo to say what to do.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:14 GMT
#3677
On October 24 2013 09:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 09:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why is Grackaroni so hesitant to give opinions.
By his posts i must be scum, but hey, let's lynch somewhere else and/or wait for syllo to say what to do.

-rayn

I wanted to hear about the part where I called your day1-night1 reads bad. Tell me more. I didn't say you must be scum. I said you could be scum. If you are town I am thoroughly disappointed with your play.

I am a bit puzzled on how you can be disappointed in my play?
I called 2 people out on D1. Cephiro and ET. On N1 i told our QT that Pandain is scum.
I have not played at all on D2 (or very little). On D3 you call me out for my bad reads. Especially me. Not the hydra, but me, rayn. It was pretty clear the comment was pointed to me.

I am going to dig the quote up when it's time to make a case on you. Right now it's irrelevant because we are lynching Cephiro.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:42 GMT
#3680
On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game.

This is the quote.

After this you try to cover it up by saying this:
On October 23 2013 08:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 07:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game.

last comment on this game.
I have only accused Cephiro and ET on this gme D1.
Thank you.

-rayn

yeah but those are the reads that will show up post game. Not the Day3 reads of Me/JAT/Mattchew which are probably all wrong.

The problem is i hadn't given out those reads on you/Matt/JAT before you made the first comment.
Therefore you can't possibly say my reads are bad as you did in your first post.

TLDR;
"rayn's all reads are bad because he asccuses everyone"
"i ahve only accused scum if Cephiro is scum"
"yeah but these D3 reads are bad" (they were not there when Grack made that argument)

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:54 GMT
#3686
So why is everyone wanting to lynch outside me/Cephiro? It's a 50% chance of hitting scum. For Cephiro, if he is town, lynching me would be 100% and he is hesitant to lynch me.. lol..

I do not believe there is a framer. Given that the only check we know of is a house check, which means framer is incredibly powerful, as instead of hitting one person, it hits a most of 6. If a check says "there is X scum in house Y", what happens when there are 3 people left in the house (see our house atm). We lynch one. They turn up town. We lynch another one. They turn up town. The last guy must be scum. They turn up town.

Framer role would be indredibly BS, there is no way there is a framer.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:56 GMT
#3690
I also do not believe Cephiro is telling truth about his power. He says he gets more powerful.
He has checked me on N1, he has checked Matt on N2. Where is the "getting more powerful" part?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 00:57 GMT
#3691
And that's all cephiro has done this game. Zero scumhunting.
He's just flip flopping around his role.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:04 GMT
#3697
On October 24 2013 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
Either the cop is lying and is scum (not likely because of the modkill event) or there are no scum in hufflepuff and the framer made a guess or there are scum in hufflepuff and they are dumb.

Or Cephiro is scum and there is no framer and there is scum in hufflepuff?

I agree with your statement on the framer regarding N2.
I know that if Cephiro is town, i was not framed on N1.
JAT is pretty clearly town as he shot scum.
Therefore the only explanation is that Cephiro is scum.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:07 GMT
#3699
On October 24 2013 10:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Can I see the rest of the case now Rayn? The thread really seemed to take to the first part. Also, comment on Skanjab1s.

You use BS reasons to discredit people. You did the exact same thing Golden Sun. You are arrogant and cocky in a different way than you are as town.
As i said, i don't need to make a case on you now, we are not lynching you.
Why do you want to distract the thread from today's lynch`?


-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:13 GMT
#3704
Mocsta.
Cephiro has a green + rolename check on me from N1.
From N2 there is a house check that says there is 1 scum in Gryff.
People who are alive in Gryff at that point:
Cephiro
raynkoshi
JAT (shot scum)
Vayne (flipped green)

In case there is no framer shit there must be scum in me/Cephiro.
I do not believe there is any sort of framer shit.
I also do not believe the cop is lying (because of the modkill shennies)

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:16 GMT
#3707
Holyflare what the fuck is the point of multiple quotes that do not tell us shit?
Why are you quoting random Cephiro's posts?
Does it help us if you find the breadcrumb (which he obviously is not lying about as he brought it up)?
What...the...hell..are...you...doing?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:22 GMT
#3714
Grackaroni you should very well know i do not make cases when it's not necessary. Stop with the bullshit already and discuss today's lynch. Unless you are scum and your plan is to distract me.

If i make a case on you and am wrong, there is a possibility that this dumb town does what it did on D1 and does not lynch an obv-scum.

Btw, 2 town vigilantes?
JAT why didn't you shoot Pandain. I clearly pointed out why he is scum in QT. Where did you get your scumread on LM from?

-rayn
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October 24 2013 01:27 GMT
#3717
nvm JAT prolly sheeped supersoft and syllo on LM..

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:40 GMT
#3721
On October 24 2013 10:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 10:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grackaroni you should very well know i do not make cases when it's not necessary. Stop with the bullshit already and discuss today's lynch. Unless you are scum and your plan is to distract me.

If i make a case on you and am wrong, there is a possibility that this dumb town does what it did on D1 and does not lynch an obv-scum.

Btw, 2 town vigilantes?
JAT why didn't you shoot Pandain. I clearly pointed out why he is scum in QT. Where did you get your scumread on LM from?

-rayn

Good god. I told you why today's lynch is bad. I told you who I wanted to lynch. I gave lots of reasoning why earlier and Skanjab1s hasn't posted much since then.

Either you are incredibly dense or you are scum. fyi, if you are scum your play is still bad.

Now I am going to go through your filter and pull out all of the BS reasoning you have used this game just for the fun of it.

A question.

If you are so sure Cephiro is town, why don't you want to lynch me?
Do you believe this framer bullshit?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:47 GMT
#3726
Who's left in Hufflescum after modkills?

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:55 GMT
#3729
First post debunked:
It turns out I'll be writing more than the Rayn BS compilation because Koshi isn't that good of a scum and he seems like a scum lacking confidence.

Incorrect, especially when Koshi plays with me.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 01:57 GMT
#3732
Yeah and you should know too.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 02:01 GMT
#3733
On October 24 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote:
I'm swapping to cr anyways

The timing is just too coincidental
There's no vig left.. so his martyr is meaningless
And he knows about things he shoukdnt if he hasn't caught up

Mocsta why are you not wanting to lynch into something where the probability of scumlynch is in the first place, even as random, 50%?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#3737
From reading rayn's filter, he's very adamant on lynching within griff to get the scum. He doesn't seem to have a strong preference on which person to lynch first

TROLOLOLOL!

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 02:06 GMT
#3738
On October 24 2013 11:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn, In day1 your mains pushes were Onegu/Cephiro.

Can you show me where i am "pushing Onegu"?
I once said i could lynch him for his multiple apologies.
What else?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 02:13 GMT
#3743
At that time Onegu had made 3 post that said nothing at all, and had multiple apologies.
I wanted to make ET to push his lynch because i wanted to see what he does. Did he push Onegu?
I also wanted to make Onegu post more.
Also am i pushing Onegu lynch in that post?
From what i read i am pushing Cephiro, no?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 02:25 GMT
#3747
On October 24 2013 11:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 11:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
At that time Onegu had made 3 post that said nothing at all, and had multiple apologies.
I wanted to make ET to push his lynch because i wanted to see what he does. Did he push Onegu?
I also wanted to make Onegu post more.
Also am i pushing Onegu lynch in that post?
From what i read i am pushing Cephiro, no?

-rayn

I said you were pushing Cephiro. I'm not making a big deal of this. I just pointed it out because you keep talking about how great your day1 reads were and it turns out they may not have even been good.

This is wrong Grack. You especially said before my main pushes were Cephiro and Onegu. I am not pushing Onegu any more than i am pushing EchelonTee. In fact i am not pushing Onegu at all. I am not asking anyone's opinion on him. I am not asking him any questions. All i am doing is inviting him into discussion by putting pressure on him via ET (which would tell me more about ET aswell). I am, however, asking people's opinion on ET. I am asking him to make a case on someone. I am asking Sno what does he think about ET. I am asking ET questions all D1 long. I point out his scummy behavior multiple times.

Yet you say my main pushes were Cephiro and Onegu. This is simply incorrect. I did not push ET, that's true, because i pushed Cephiro. But i certainly did not push Onegu MORE than ET. Anyone who reads my filter from D1 should be able to see that easily, and i can't understand why are you telling otherwise.

Let's talk about this now if you want. So could you explain?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#3748
On October 24 2013 11:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn, In day1 your mains pushes were Onegu/Cephiro.

Now Grackaroni. Back up this statement of yours. Please.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 03:01 GMT
#3751
On October 24 2013 11:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I stand by what I said earlier. There is a pretty big difference in the confidence of Koshi's posts between here and Thug Life. What Rayn said is irrelevant because he wasn't even there at the start when koshi was posting. Boom, Un-debunked.

And you know this how?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 03:04 GMT
#3753
And that proves i have not been around exactly how?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 03:20 GMT
#3760
Don't worry you might get more candy tonight Grack.
Holyflare. I am a bit confused. We had a talk about my role/actions claim and Grack's claim at the start of D3. Are you not paying attention or how is it possible you don't know what Grack meant when he said he will be RB'd?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 03:34 GMT
#3768
On October 24 2013 12:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 12:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Don't worry you might get more candy tonight Grack.
Holyflare. I am a bit confused. We had a talk about my role/actions claim and Grack's claim at the start of D3. Are you not paying attention or how is it possible you don't know what Grack meant when he said he will be RB'd?

-rayn

you do that. I have a kind of silly theory right now that scum get the visit info and town get the rb/kp.

I kinda don't care what you think because this is what's gonna happen:

Cephiro flips red.
Then i ask you why you didn't wanna lynch into 50% scum.
Then you bring up the framer bullshit.
Then i ask you but why did you then question me, if you want to lynch elsewhere.
Then you bring up that you had a scumread on me.
Then i bring up the fact that i debunked all your cases before you even made them for real, and you never followed up on any points after i gave my answers to them.
Then you squirm a bit.
Then i ask you why did you waste a day questioning a dude who will be either confirmed town or confirmed scum after Cephiro flip.
Then you probably bring up the framer bullshit again, and make up some reasons.

You probably should start thinking about those reasons already.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 06:06 GMT
#3781
On October 24 2013 13:44 Mocsta wrote:
Then as bh said. Both are town.

No one has cc'd jat so he is confirmed.

Hmmm only thing going for onegu is that et pushed him. I'm going to have to review this.. onegu was scum in the desert game with marv right??
The et/onegu thong could be lime stutters pushing kush in noir. Real case cos it was real.

I give that a quick read. Maybe onegu is the best lynch for today.

Are you considering Onegu as a lynch because scum made a case on him? lol..
Mocsta wtf?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#3793
Cephiro, CR and Hufflescum as last 3 sound cool.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 09:42 GMT
#3794
Cephiro, Skanjab, holyflare is possible if Grack is town.
Cephiro, CR, Grack when Grack is scum.

Grack you are the key. Cephiro must be scum though. Or SK. But I think scum. The only thing I saw from Cephiro is 1 copcheck on us (because the mattchew "check" is not proven, there was no breadcrumb about his role like when he knew I had Candy), and then the thingies with the coins. Which is the scum masoner compared to Storrzerg town Masoner?


Got to say Hosts did quite a good job creating these roles. Game isn't over yet but I like what I am seeing.

Ohyeah, and I can believe 2 docs now. There was 3 KP for scum if you count the 0.5kp guys. Just hilarious that they died by Mr. Snowman. Bad play by scum there tbh.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 09:56 GMT
#3797
On October 24 2013 18:47 syllogism wrote:
Did you give anyone candy on n1?

Yes ourselves, but we got back that LoneMeow did an night action.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 09:59 GMT
#3798
So I was a bit confused about the VA modkill, and now I see he was modkilled for not using Protego. Is that a joke or do we have a claim from somebody what it means?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 10:39 GMT
#3800
On October 24 2013 19:03 syllogism wrote:
He was modkilled for getting temp banned from TL

But he would be able to vote on the next day and he could post in the QT. So the Protego thing is a joke?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 10:41 GMT
#3801
I don't want to make a big deal about it atm so w.e.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 24 2013 10:49 GMT
#3804
I thought it was for being temp banned. But then it says "for not casting Protego", and then I thought why does it say that? Then I thought "yeah, should VA be modkilled? He would be able to post in each cycle, would be able to vote, and he could still play through QT."

So that's why I asked, is the Protego thing a joke or was it claimed. But now that I think more about it. It is probably a joke. It's cool.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 10:50 GMT
#3805
Town for sure:
Snowman (vengeful doc claim, no CC)
JAT (Shot LM, no CC)
Syllo (IC)

Very likely town:
Mocsta (I like how he plays and it screams town to me, additionally the RB on BH makes no sense if you look at the scum Night Kills. I believe him that Draco Town/ Harry Scum. He said he was Town Harry Potter before night 2 and backed it up with the RB. So yeah, town.

Town:
BH (Got shot this night most likely, other option is the guy with 1.5 hp, but it made a lot of sense it would be BH)
Hopeless (Isn't pushing scum agenda, and with this I mean he is pretty neutral about things, but he wanted to lynch inside his house even though he had townreads on all, I like the potions to be town but they can be scum tbh as well, liked how he gave us townread, but I like his voting the most. Nothing anti-town about this guy his posting)

Null:
Grack (NULL NULL NULL) (But really I think he is scum, but then again, I think he is VT)
Onegu (People say he is blue and they have a townread on him, I haven't followed up on him and I have no clue. I know he said early that I was town, and I think he is either sheeping a lot of reads of us or he follows same thought process. Also filters suggested he is town, with the case from ET.)
Holyflare (I'll put him here because I actually like the guy but he promised us dazzling shining stuff today and haven't seen it yet. Personally I would see Grack be scum over Holyflare. Holyflare was promoting discussion and being very active D1, talking with Pandain and generally trying to forward discussion, he kinda stopped playing like that since d2, which might have to do with N1... Yeah I don't know, I like his play over that from Grack.)

scummies:
Cephiro (PoE, Day 1, First claimed role that gets stronger after deaths, then does a rolecheck on me, then does another rolecheck on Mattchew?, I don't understand why he only rolechecked twice with his "powerful" role".
CR (Replacing yamato, same big posts as in thug, but these ones I don't like, "vig me lynch huffle" when the Cephiro train is well underway)
Skanjab1s (The problem I have is that if this guy is scum then CR isn't scum, Skanjab last 4 pages of filter is trying to get CR lynched, if CR is town, lynch this guy if CR is town. It could be that this guy just decided to stop playing and is bussing for easy cred and wants to ride it to endgame that way but mehhh.)


The solution is somewhere here:
Cephiro please be scum.
The circlejerk CR/Skanjab1s/Grack.
Hufflescum (Grack or Holyflare)
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 10:56 GMT
#3806
It would be really easy if Storrzerg is scum.
Somewhat easy if Mattchew is scum (RIP Cephiro D
then we just lynch CR -->Skanjab
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 10:57 GMT
#3807
Damn smileys. It was a sad face D: <---- Because we lynched Cephiro of fake claim.

Unless Cephiro is 3P. Then I am ok with it.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:28 GMT
#3812
yeah or your greencheck?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:30 GMT
#3815
Well have you been talking much to Sno_Man or Grack?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:31 GMT
#3816
And your reasoning for not giving me a coin was "because i do not expect you to die".

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:46 GMT
#3819
A couple of things:
- What is this codeword shit and why do you think instead of sharing your thoughts with people you are communicating with you feel the need to tell them what to do?
- Your "to lynch when i flip" list. Is there any particular reason you don't any more think there is a framer? Because for you to be town there absolutely has to be framer in this game.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:47 GMT
#3820
EBWOP: Above from -rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:58 GMT
#3826
On October 24 2013 21:51 Cephiro wrote:
I do think there is a framer. I just want to make sure that if I get lynched it doesn't go to some random: "Oh fuck, Ceph was town, better start lynching someone like Skanjab1s" or something irrelevant. I guess it could be argued that JAT can be left off the list, an un-CCed vig can hardly be scum.

The codewords were meant as a way for everyone that had a coin from me to discuss certain things without others knowing, I was hoping to create a small circle of trust. (Which Mocsta again, did a great job of ruining.)

It wasn't like "I need to tell them what to do", but with a one-way secret message a day, why would not I convey my opinion of "what should be done"?

Yeah but you just said when you flip town "lynch into Gryff then lynch into Huffle" which makes no sense given that it will be confirmed there is a framer. Either i am scum and framed N1. Or i am town and scum framed someone in our house N2. Which makes it likely someone from Huffle was framed N1.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 12:59 GMT
#3827
And of course you are only saying "lynch rayn 100%" and not giving any other reads because i will become confirmed town when you flip red. :p

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:00 GMT
#3828
On October 24 2013 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn I shot LM because I sheeped syllo and marv (who convinced me it wasn't town LM). Didn't even know SS wanted him dead. Wouldn't have mattered anyways because I didn't really have a townread on SS.

Yeah i looked at your filter and got it.

-rayn
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#3830
On October 24 2013 22:03 syllogism wrote:
It's unfortunate that both Grack and Holyflare argued against this lynch today AND essentially also on day 1.

Did you take a look at my little talk with Grack last night?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:16 GMT
#3834
On October 24 2013 22:12 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, so since you've clearly decided to lynch me without even considering another option... *Insert insult here*

At least spend the time left in the day trying to find the real scum, or question me to get more information. There is no reason for anyone except scum to act like syllo ("I don't give a fuck until the flip"), which is extremely annoying since syllo is modconfirmed town.

So why do so many consider Mocsta town? Or why hasn't anyone been going on about how Holy later on claimed that his power is used secretly unlike he claimed before? When there are so many people that wanted to lynch ChRay, why aren't you pushing Holy further about this? Can hardly be because I'm a "better" target.

You think Mocsta and Pandain have close to the exact same role and both are scum? Harry and Draco?
You think that scum Mocsta used RB on BH and the scumteam didn't hit syllo to frame either Hopeless or BH?

Mocsta is almost confirmed town to me because of those 2 things alone.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:19 GMT
#3835
The scumteam is really not going to let the invulnability potion go through on confirmed town. The RB on BH is the most fucked up thing Mocsta did this game, but the fact that syllo did not die makes Mocsta town.

With the information scum had killing BH was very logical, he was doc, he was BH and syllo was being docced. Mr. Snowman his night action have been superb.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:29 GMT
#3837
You are not reading what I say. And not reading the thread. Otherwise you would know Mocsta cant be scum.

There are 3 reason for no NK:
1) NK was used on BH the doc, but he got saved by Snowman the doc. (80%)
2) NK was used on Storrzerg or Mattchew the guy with 1,5 hp. (10%)
3) NK was RB because BH had to deliver it and got RB. (10%)

Mocsta is never ever scum. Because boh option 1 & 2 would not have happened if scum knew that BH was getting RB, because they would shoot syllo and frame BH and Hopeless. (BH for faking doc, hopeless because potion wont arrive). In option 3 Mocsta is a town hero.


So there is no way Mocsta is scum. It doesn't make any sense from NK perspective.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:31 GMT
#3839
If syllo would have died tonight I would be screaming and kicking to lynch Mocsta. But now, it doesn't make any sense.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:33 GMT
#3840
last night*

Cephiro you agree?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:37 GMT
#3843
wifom probably.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:38 GMT
#3844
Also can somebody comment on my who is town and who is scum list? I think it is close to the truth. And with 1 KP and 2 docs we are allowed to discuss some townreads as well.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:39 GMT
#3845
Koshi what's your list? :p

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:41 GMT
#3848
It's so awesome I can repeat it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 24 2013 19:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Town for sure:
Snowman (vengeful doc claim, no CC)
JAT (Shot LM, no CC)
Syllo (IC)

Very likely town:
Mocsta (I like how he plays and it screams town to me, additionally the RB on BH makes no sense if you look at the scum Night Kills. I believe him that Draco Town/ Harry Scum. He said he was Town Harry Potter before night 2 and backed it up with the RB. So yeah, town.

Town:
BH (Got shot this night most likely, other option is the guy with 1.5 hp, but it made a lot of sense it would be BH)
Hopeless (Isn't pushing scum agenda, and with this I mean he is pretty neutral about things, but he wanted to lynch inside his house even though he had townreads on all, I like the potions to be town but they can be scum tbh as well, liked how he gave us townread, but I like his voting the most. Nothing anti-town about this guy his posting)

Null:
Grack (NULL NULL NULL) (But really I think he is scum, but then again, I think he is VT)
Onegu (People say he is blue and they have a townread on him, I haven't followed up on him and I have no clue. I know he said early that I was town, and I think he is either sheeping a lot of reads of us or he follows same thought process. Also filters suggested he is town, with the case from ET.)
Holyflare (I'll put him here because I actually like the guy but he promised us dazzling shining stuff today and haven't seen it yet. Personally I would see Grack be scum over Holyflare. Holyflare was promoting discussion and being very active D1, talking with Pandain and generally trying to forward discussion, he kinda stopped playing like that since d2, which might have to do with N1... Yeah I don't know, I like his play over that from Grack.)

scummies:
Cephiro (PoE, Day 1, First claimed role that gets stronger after deaths, then does a rolecheck on me, then does another rolecheck on Mattchew?, I don't understand why he only rolechecked twice with his "powerful" role".
CR (Replacing yamato, same big posts as in thug, but these ones I don't like, "vig me lynch huffle" when the Cephiro train is well underway)
Skanjab1s (The problem I have is that if this guy is scum then CR isn't scum, Skanjab last 4 pages of filter is trying to get CR lynched, if CR is town, lynch this guy if CR is town. It could be that this guy just decided to stop playing and is bussing for easy cred and wants to ride it to endgame that way but mehhh.)


The solution is somewhere here:
Cephiro please be scum.
The circlejerk CR/Skanjab1s/Grack.
Hufflescum (Grack or Holyflare)

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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:44 GMT
#3849
Yeah that's good but Onegu is town.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:45 GMT
#3851
Skanjabs + Holyflare
or
Grack + CR

The latter more likely, unless hard bussing.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 13:48 GMT
#3853
On October 24 2013 22:45 syllogism wrote:
I forgot that mafia may not have known that sn0 was a medic when assigning their N2 KP, makes the BH shot a bit more reasonable. I couldn't understand why mafia would shoot BH otherwise.

BH claimed medic that was going to protect syllo. Also he is BH and people say he is good at solving things and shoot him N1 everytime.

But I am thinking people might just be Pandain.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:10 GMT
#3859
Grackaroni [Trying to defend me, Pandain tried to ask him for a masonry if he had a power like that, too unlikely to be doing this just for extra town cred due to not being very credible in most eyes atm, it wouldn't be enough.], Sn0_Man [Towny town, based on actions]

Apparently you have no idea how Pandabearguy plays scum, which is highly unlike as you were scum with him in Noir.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:12 GMT
#3860
And how does Grack defending you make him town. He has given zero reasons why you are town. He has not tried to push any other lynch. He just said "lynch Skan" and then started making a case against me (which is btw hilarious -- you guys should check it out). He is not really defending you..

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:15 GMT
#3861
^ Cephiro is going to flip scum. yay for us. Sad we didn't lynch him Day 1 and then had those actions N1 :DDD

On October 24 2013 22:54 syllogism wrote:
I very much look forward to reading mafia QT for their opinions about the role balance. They perhaps don't even know what my role can still do.

Well, getting 2 very powerful roles killed by a doc with 1-shot vengeful ability is funny but not imbalanced. Even a watcher could have fucked them both. Dnu what they were thinking there. Rolecop, JAT (Cephiro), "Vote rigger" that makes 4vs3 scum victory and then unknown 1.

But yeah, I am interested as well on the set-up. Need to kill scummers first though.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:23 GMT
#3866
Ignore Cephiro and find the other scum.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:29 GMT
#3871
On October 24 2013 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:
And why the hell did you campaign for a stutters lynch over CR and even used your quite powerful ability to finish him if you thought the lynch was between 2 townies? WTF!

Ignore him. He is shitting the thread up.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:29 GMT
#3873
Cephiro is scum JAT like role. I am impressed he guessed the Ron stuff without check 0o.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:31 GMT
#3875
when I say I JAT I mean Jack of Trades. Not justanothertownie.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:37 GMT
#3881
It's not that hard to guess.
Pandain (Harry) had flipped. Ceph is Hermione, Vayne had basically claimed Ginny. Either me, Stutters or JAT has to be Ron Weasley. He put's "candy" in his post and then you go "hmm.. candies.." in thread.

What there is to guess?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:37 GMT
#3882
EBWOP: By you i mean Koshi.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 14:42 GMT
#3886
Cephiro.
Can you make a bigger case on Grack why he is town?
Can you make a bigger case on Onegu why he is scum?

I think that will help town a lot next days.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 15:15 GMT
#3895
The case on Onegu is really bad.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 15:45 GMT
#3901
On October 25 2013 00:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 00:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
random thought. if scum have an unlynchable ability, are we okay with CR being our secondary?

You guys? I assume the silence means thats a yes.

You mean putting CR second in the vote race? Sure.
Maybe we want Holyflare to use secret vote as well. Would make it easier for tomorrow.

Because if Cephiro is town, I think Holyflare is certain scum.

2 people that can cast secret votes on town is a bit much.

Dnu why I didn't realize that sooner rofl.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 15:47 GMT
#3902
Dont know why Cephiro isn't yelling Holyflare is scum for that tbh. Or started making cases on Holyflare as soon as Holyflare said he had a secret vote.

2 people that can cast secret votes on town is just WAYYYYYyyy to much.

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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 16:04 GMT
#3907
Can we know it if it isn't happening?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 16:06 GMT
#3908
On October 25 2013 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay seriously I want 3 votes on a secondary target. Can we agree on someone to replace Ceph in the event that he's been made unlynchable somehow?

CR sounds a good second wagon. I can switch.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 16:11 GMT
#3911
On October 25 2013 01:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 01:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 25 2013 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay seriously I want 3 votes on a secondary target. Can we agree on someone to replace Ceph in the event that he's been made unlynchable somehow?

CR sounds a good second wagon. I can switch.

CR is maybe getting modkilled. backup to the backup if he neglects to vote? I'd prefer skanjab.

Cool. I can switch to him as well. They ain't both scum but 1 is if Grack is no scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 16:11 GMT
#3912
On October 25 2013 01:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
I have no experience or knowledge regarding how an "unlynchable" power works/would work.

I'm fine with some people moving to chairman ray. Enough to guarantee it as the 2nd lynch.

For those wondering, Ceph's plan wouldn't work if scum have some version of a vote rigger that essentially "ends" the lynch voting at a given time. That would cause an Onegu lynch of all things... And with the vote manipulation powers revealed so far that wouldn't surprise me at all. So I'm not OK with it.

y u so smart?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:40 GMT
#3920
On October 25 2013 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 19:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
rayn thinks scum lies within Matt, Onegu, JAT, Vayne, Hopeless, with a possibility of CR.
Koshi thinks scum lies within Matt, Storr, Vayne, Hopeless, CR with far outsiders JAT/Onegu/Cephiro

I will take solace in the fact that Raynoshi was also a noob.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. seems like I accidentally wrote scum instead of town.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:49 GMT
#3922
Grack, why are you sounding like the game is over?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:50 GMT
#3923
Cephiro, Storrzerg and Grack for endgame cred.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:52 GMT
#3926
Well if it is not Cephiro it is going to be Holyflare.
2 secret voters that are town is impossible.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:56 GMT
#3930
:D
You know where I am going with this.

It's just not Hopeless.

And even more crazy then 2 town secret voters is 2 scum secret voters :DDD
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 17:59 GMT
#3934
On October 25 2013 02:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 02:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Cephiro, Storrzerg and Grack for endgame cred.

nice one.

Yeah it's Cephiro, Grack and CR
if both Storrzerg and Mattchew flip town.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:00 GMT
#3935
Nha this game is over. Town won. Go surrender scummers.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:02 GMT
#3937
Ohyeah. That's less fun.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:03 GMT
#3939
On October 25 2013 03:02 Grackaroni wrote:
It just better not be Mattchew. Then I am the only one who ends up being the noob.

If Mattchew is not a cop and Cephiro town then Holyflare is scum with Mattchew. So that's ok.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:07 GMT
#3941
Oh Hi CR.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:16 GMT
#3952
On October 25 2013 03:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
kay

##unvote

Vote: Chairman Ray

K, now you better be scum and surrender.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#3959
Just post baby seal pics.
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#3960
On October 25 2013 03:18 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 03:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 25 2013 03:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
kay

##unvote

Vote: Chairman Ray

K, now you better be scum and surrender.


I'm not actually scum. I just think that if it gets down to lylo, then I'll be a liability since I'm basically a blank puzzle piece at endgame. I can't really do a lot of scumhunting, and there's little information everyone else knows about me. So it's better I flip early than later. If someone still has alignment checking powers, that would also be useful just to get me confirmed as town.

So you play anti-town so that we lynch you and waste 72 hours?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:34 GMT
#3966
On October 25 2013 03:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 25 2013 03:18 Chairman Ray wrote:
On October 25 2013 03:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 25 2013 03:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
kay

##unvote

Vote: Chairman Ray

K, now you better be scum and surrender.


I'm not actually scum. I just think that if it gets down to lylo, then I'll be a liability since I'm basically a blank puzzle piece at endgame. I can't really do a lot of scumhunting, and there's little information everyone else knows about me. So it's better I flip early than later. If someone still has alignment checking powers, that would also be useful just to get me confirmed as town.

So you play anti-town so that we lynch you and waste 72 hours?


You could also just not lynch me and win before it gets to lylo.

then help us instead of martyr..........
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:35 GMT
#3967
On October 25 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
[image loading]


Pleading for the town to suddenly become smart by posting baby seal pics as requested? :D

Soo cute.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:36 GMT
#3970
^ I don't get it

... 4 seal you
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:49 GMT
#3977
We are just certain you flip scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 18:49 GMT
#3979
Or the "cop" flips scum
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#4026
You should have claimed ages back when Holyflare talked about his secret vote Cephiro.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 19:37 GMT
#4029
I also don't hold setup speculation as high in value as several of you do.

Says the guy who has fdone nothing but talked about roles and setup and possibilities because of setup the whole game..
wtf man??

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 20:04 GMT
#4053
...
Why no easy game D:
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#4056
oh ffs. We aren't scum...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#4061
I am not fucking kidding we are not scum. Fucking check on our House was tempered with or JAT is scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 20:33 GMT
#4080
This sucks balls but it is still 10 vs 3.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 24 2013 20:34 GMT
#4082
There are many really strong townreads left. It's ok.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 24 2013 20:35 GMT
#4084
Nha it's 10 vs 3.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 24 2013 20:39 GMT
#4086
Look. Cephiro's scumlist isn't the worst. It's just sad this happened but we lynched the right guy.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 24 2013 20:39 GMT
#4087
On October 25 2013 05:38 Onegu wrote:
9 stutters is dead but not checked off

true.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 20:40 GMT
#4089
On October 25 2013 05:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
Think ur next rayn. Sorry but I'm feeling like it has to be this way.

Dude we aren't scum. Look at what I wrote. It's all legit.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:27 GMT
#4115
Well if Holyflare, Skan and CR are last scum then our reads have been really bad. Well mine at least...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:28 GMT
#4116
But the Cephiro lynch wasn't bad at all. The guy got scummier each damn second.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:31 GMT
#4119
Mr. Snowman. We are not scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:33 GMT
#4121
I know...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:40 GMT
#4123
Maybe. But I think I am pretty correct about my townreads or at least it makes a lot of sense and I have not so much reasons for scum to make it obvious for everybody.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:42 GMT
#4124
But Cephiro man... Like how can you not CC Holyflare the second he says he has a secret vote? How can you give us a greencheck for so long and then go "ok guis, the greencheck was a lie" ...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#4125
Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says.

It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#4126
Like Cephiro even said he was the guy who gave Stutters the extra vote...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 21:46 GMT
#4127
Nha, I am still happy about our game. We pushed the right buttons and the only thing I did wrong was lie about the candy at first.

Who wants new candy? I think Grack is best target.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 22:01 GMT
#4130
On October 25 2013 06:59 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 06:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says.

It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab.


htf can I be scum with CR?

Yeah I know. D:

Buss into easy endgame? Best guess.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 24 2013 22:20 GMT
#4135
On October 25 2013 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
You guys are actually kidding right? There's a POSITIVE COP CHECK on people in gryffindor ON THE HOUSE THAT WASN'T GOING TO GET COP CHECKED, there is absolutely no way that a fucking framer does that shit. We lynch jat or rayn and there is no other option. Stop playing dumb.

Lynch this guy after if you are seriously going to lynch us.
He's the counterpart of Cephiro.
Oh and Grack, i am waiting for the case. dundun..

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 02:45 GMT
#4160
Grackaroni i am waiting for the case.

Holyflare, riddle me this:
As for rayn I've only played 1 game with him and he was scum, I would be confident identifying his traits if he displayed them though.

You seem to be sure i am scum. Correctly identify my scumtraits and tell the thread.
(hint: whenever someone has tried to do this and i have been town they have been scum -- but by all means, as you are so confident as you claimed on D1, go ahead -- stand behind your words)

On a sidenote. I will be re-reading the whole game tomorrow and Saturday, then i will tell the thread who is scum. I've never been mislynched - even with a fucked up check - and i do not intend to start now. kthxbye.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 02:49 GMT
#4162
On October 25 2013 11:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 11:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grackaroni i am waiting for the case.

Holyflare, riddle me this:
As for rayn I've only played 1 game with him and he was scum, I would be confident identifying his traits if he displayed them though.

You seem to be sure i am scum. Correctly identify my scumtraits and tell the thread.
(hint: whenever someone has tried to do this and i have been town they have been scum -- but by all means, as you are so confident as you claimed on D1, go ahead -- stand behind your words)

On a sidenote. I will be re-reading the whole game tomorrow and Saturday, then i will tell the thread who is scum. I've never been mislynched - even with a fucked up check - and i do not intend to start now. kthxbye.

-rayn

That was you that was making promises of a case not me. I'd prefer it if you would just comment on Skanjab1s/CR.

I will comment on everything the next day phase. I don't think we get NK'd ... :p

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 02:55 GMT
#4168
Hey Grack, did you vote for Palmar D1?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:01 GMT
#4172
Oh God. I thought you can read him?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:13 GMT
#4175
Probably not as syllo and marv were there too. This is from our QT with Koshi at that time:
"Let's pressure Cephiro, he is playing to his scum meta"
"ET and Palmar good lynches if Cephiro proves his towniness. JAT looks worse"
"agreed"
Palmar starts posting
"based on latest posting i think Palmar is town. Like 90% town"
"Dunno, why? Minimal effort"
"Different minimal effort than scum Palmar, LA summed it up really well in his post"
Then we go back to Cephiro

I hate Cephiro for ruining my D1 and D3..

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:21 GMT
#4177
Actually his play looked exactly like his play in Broadwalk PYP..
nvm, this gets us nowhere because too many people thought he was scum and i was not here.

I do not remember why i had Holyflare as town on D1 because atm his D1 looks horrible.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:24 GMT
#4179
On October 24 2013 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
We do not know if the cop claim was entirely accurate so instead of lynching a potentially framed house member i think we should be lynching one of those 3, ray is looking like the most probable one to be scum.

Also, from a framers point of view, why would he frame someone from gryffindor? There was posts from storr in our qt that said he wqs checking scum in either ravenclaw or slytherin so if there ws mafia in hufflepuff a frame on gryffindor would be really dumb. So either cop flips red and everything makes sense or cop flips green and hufflepuff is less suspicious. Based on this information i think the cephiro lynch is actually quite apt unless he reveals his powers because syllo seems definite mattchew is town/cop even though i don't see it. Especially as storr said he was breadcrumbing cop in day 1 before the mattchew qt started, i think, can't check that on phone right now.

For myself, for tomorrow. I think this post alone makes HF scum based on what he has said today.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:31 GMT
#4180
Mocsta. Imagine you have a house with zero scum left in it and you are a framer. Into which house do you frame regardless of what anyone does or says?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:40 GMT
#4185
On October 25 2013 12:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Mocsta. Imagine you have a house with zero scum left in it and you are a framer. Into which house do you frame regardless of what anyone does or says?

-rayn

Wifom.

I get the point you are conveying but it's not something I will vote somebody for.

Nono, i am not saying it makes anyone scum. I am saying HF's thought process is not valid.
I will explain this in detail tomorrow. There is more. You guys focus on Skan/CR, i do HF first. :D

They are probably all scum unless BH. I think we should confirm him somehow. Is there a way? He hasn't posted much of anything useful whole game.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 03:53 GMT
#4190
Mocsta, on D3 start. Did Sno claim to have protected BH on N2 in house QT?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 06:20 GMT
#4213
Wouldn't it be hilarious if scum BH got roleblocked and JAT hit BH as SK? :p
I would be okay for lynching them just to see if it's true.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#4246
Glad we are not lynching the mighty Hydra.
I think the scummers are between Holyflare/CR/Skan/Grack
Those 4. Onegu outsider but I expect him to confirm himself in resolution.

I am open to any question.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#4265
On October 26 2013 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
I also considered protecting Pandain. Or one of the hosts.

Don't protect the hosts. Protest to the hosts. They gave us bad candy.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 16:49 GMT
#4268
"Ouch my teeth hurt,
Candy candy not so good.

Candy candy stuck in my teeth!
Pfff..
That awful taste..
It's just so cheap! !

The host always tells me 'candy candy so very good, it will not hurt teeth UNDERSTOOD! '
I want better candy,
I want to eat,
I don't care what anyone says,
I know this candy is the worst.

Ouch! Ouch!
I was right!
Because of candy Grack can't even bite.

Candy candy not so good,
Just remember to throw it away
Because..
Candy candy is not so good..
For your teeth. "


-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 16:50 GMT
#4269
Grack you will not get candy. Sorry.

-rayn

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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 18:24 GMT
#4275
On October 26 2013 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sno are you keeping a list of claims?
If you are could you tell me what they are. I think i remember most of the mbut too lazy to check.

-rayn

For filter.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 20:00 GMT
#4302
I candied myself. Let's see if some "VT" visits someone.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 20:11 GMT
#4318
So the challenge prize is a pardon am i correct?
I got the canary shit from candy.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 20:15 GMT
#4331
who's in Ravenclaw?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 20:28 GMT
#4339
CR who is scum with Onegu? One name quick.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 25 2013 20:40 GMT
#4345
##Vote: 24 hour day cycle
##Vote: Chairman Ray


-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 12:36 GMT
#4382
Well, he could be not scum but let's lynch him!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 12:37 GMT
#4383
^ not sarcastic or something like that.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 15:41 GMT
#4389
D:
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#4406
On October 27 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I thought he was supposed to use it yesterday?

-rayn

For filter goddamn.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#4408
I have bit of a feeling something is not right.
We have a veteran, 2 doctors, 2 JOAT's, some roleblockers, somekinda watcher (or whatever Sno did N1), housecop, and scum have.. what.. framer and 2x +0.5KP which backfired?

Doesn't feel right at all...

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 16:52 GMT
#4411
Hmm. I am feeling BH being scum as well.

With CR/BH/Holyflare there is no bussing going on.

But with our luck

It could be Skan/BH/Holyflare as well.

Or even worse something with Grack.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 17:01 GMT
#4417
I can't believe 2 secret town voters aka Holyflare.
I can't believe BH being alive when he wasn't being docced.

CR? Pfff. He should be lynched for Martyr/Not reading the thread.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 17:03 GMT
#4420
On October 27 2013 02:00 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 01:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Hmm. I am feeling BH being scum as well.

With CR/BH/Holyflare there is no bussing going on.

But with our luck

It could be Skan/BH/Holyflare as well.

Or even worse something with Grack.



This would mean HF has been bussing BH all game.

damn, you are right >
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 26 2013 17:06 GMT
#4421
But seems like no flip tonight. meh.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 01:18 GMT
#4430
CR you do realize you play like total shit? We can't do anything else than lynch you. You play massively scummy + bad.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 20:24 GMT
#4496
He also claimed scum in his last scum game.
tbh i do not think he'll flip scum.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 20:27 GMT
#4498
No he didn't claim squm like you did, just plain out scum. :p
And people even considered if he really is scum or not...

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 20:42 GMT
#4505
Hey BH did you guys use the pardon?

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 20:58 GMT
#4511
Can you guys just burn it today on someone like Syllo? To be sure it is never going to be used.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 22:38 GMT
#4518
Okay so i thought the deadline was KST 06:00. You can ignore my posts after the deadline -> before this one. I had no idea it was an hour earlier.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 27 2013 23:43 GMT
#4521
On October 28 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.

what is the outcome?

I didn't do it yet.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 01:53 GMT
#4528
Mocsta is pretty hilarious. Onegu is confirmed town because he had not claimed his role and when he did he climed the easiest fakeclaim of all the roles. If you do not believe there is a framer then Onegu is the only person who is "confirmed scum". His (2) is also hilarious. "If syllogism wasn't an innocent child would he be scum". wtf man? If syllogism is not town this game is invalid. What's the point of discussing it?

Also BH is probably scum for doing nothing all game, getting roleblocked and no night kills. I dunno who the third one is, probably Mocsta himself for his stupid ass post that makes no sense.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 02:40 GMT
#4539
thb i havn't give a shit about this game and probably won't, because all this game has been is running aroung powers, house checks and confirmed innocents. And Mocsta you are dumb. I don't give a shit if you lynch me because town deserves to lose this game anyways as noone is doing anything useful besides someone blocking scum shots.

I might post something today.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 02:47 GMT
#4540
Still Mocsta considering me but not Onegu as scum is the stupidest thing i have heard this game.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 02:59 GMT
#4544
I have a hard time understanding why you keep roleblocking the doctor, or if you believe he is scum why are you not trying to lynch him? There has now been 2 nights without NK's, how many more do you need? Do you think, that BlazingHand, as scum, would send in the night kill 2 timesa row when you roleblocked him the first night? And why does Onegu's claim mean anything, how does it confirm anything? Veteran is the safest fakeclaim for mafia, ever, because it cannot be confirmed.

Do you guys really think we have 2 doctors (Sno as some sort of multipower role which i don't even remember) and a veteran? Then there is this guy who gives out invulnerability potions and other shit. Then we had a dude, who, if killed, takes one mafia with them. Town roles are so seriously OP at this point that someone who has claimed a powerful role absolutely has to be lying, a lot. Seriously.

Everyone is jerking around the powers but noone is willing to lynch into them to actually confirm anything. Onegu hasn't done shit all game, BH hasn't done shit all game but being roleblocked. rofl, it's all i can say.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 03:09 GMT
#4553
On October 28 2013 12:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:06 Mocsta wrote:
I forgot Sno can't conseq save....
Interesting, so bh could def be shot. Def makes the vet claim look staged then. Onegu is a much worse kill over town bh.

Doing my reread anyways now.


I don't understand why mafia would not hit BH last night in case BH is town? It would make you look terribad as you've been roleblocking the town doctor. BH could not be protected either way. Remember, you have a "red check" on you too. Why hit Onegu?

-rayn

filter.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 03:10 GMT
#4555
On October 28 2013 12:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Grackaroni was roleblocked N3 or took 0.5KP damage.

-rayn

He did not release which option it randomed?

He could choose between them.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 03:16 GMT
#4557
On October 28 2013 12:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch onegu imo, saves us a medic if wrong, confirms if right.

In got

Onegu was clearly town in pm and was lynch bait in thread.


Syllo thinks onegu is town because of qt.
Do u really think onegu could trick syllo??

If syllo is trying as hard in house QT as he is in thread probably anyone could fool him. No offence to anyone but this thread could probably be fooled by three [insert some really bad scumplayer name here] atm.

How about we actually start playing tomorrow? I promise to try more aswell as mods threw Koshi in the trashcan with candy.
I'll also stop signing my posts since it's only me anymore.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 03:36 GMT
#4565
I got really blinded by Grack & Holyflare going after me some days ago because i felt like they didn't even try to make sense. I had a town read on Holyflare early on in the game (i don't remember when exactly, because when i reread some stuff his 2 first pages of filter made no sense to me). Later on he has been probably the most sense-making person in thread, and the way he dropped the case on me felt townish to me. I still don't know about Grack, he is actually capable of playing good as scum, but definitely not even close to be the best lynch.

I had a townread on Skan from D1. After that i have not been playing much. I only came in HC on D3 when i was sure Cephiro was scum and you guys hadn't still lynched him (i was at a LAN-party last weekend, so i couldn't play much, andthere was the championship game too). I gotta reread Skan's filter aswell, see what makes sense and what doesn't. I got some town vibes from his posting in the last 20 pages.

I honestly do not think Mocsta is scum, i just get pissed off by false accusations against me. Syllo is obv town, whatever he does or does not do doesn't change that. Sno is probably town. Aside powers there was one post that really struck me as townie, and his posting overall has been fine.

Onegu hasn't done shit, BH hasn't done shit, Hopeless hasn't done shit.

I think that's all alive no?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 03:39 GMT
#4566
Oh JAT. He had some weird posts in QT early on. Since then his posting has been much townier, he has been asking good questions in thread and he's been active in QT when there has been something going on. No way he is scum, given the LM shot N1 too-
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 06:17 GMT
#4581
I can answer that Mocsta. Here's what my (our) read on Pandain has evolved.
Start of D1 - QT opens. Pandain makes an opening post in thread and is really active in QT, i give him a townread for that (because he is not rational as scum - or his disguise falls apart at some point). Nothing to change my mind at the first 3/4 of D1 (as Pandain is reasonable with his suspicion on Ceph, and i agree with him). Then i go off for the rest of D1, Palmar gets lynched. I look at Pandain's posts on D1 end and on N1. Then i post this:
"Pandain wtf is wrong with you? "
"Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff."

This is based on late D1 and N1 when Pandain, for no apparent reason, completely changes his read on Cephiro (Cephiro actually WAS playing to his scum meta - it's fucking obvious if you looked at Aperture and Noir).
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 06:24 GMT
#4587
Okay Mocsta then i do not understand the question.. :/
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 06:27 GMT
#4589
On October 28 2013 15:26 Onegu wrote:
Mocsta if HF is town why did he claim his vot was public then backpeddle to say it was secret?

Better question is why would he do that as scum?
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October 28 2013 06:32 GMT
#4593
On October 28 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 15:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:26 Onegu wrote:
Mocsta if HF is town why did he claim his vot was public then backpeddle to say it was secret?

Better question is why would he do that as scum?



Because he had too. He claimed then mocsta used his secret vote and "oh shit" my claim cant be public I better say its a secret vote also.

This doesn't make any sense.
Why can't he just do ##something: player and say "okay now i used my extra vote" instead of saying "okay guys i lied"?
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October 28 2013 06:34 GMT
#4594
On October 28 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:
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On October 28 2013 15:24 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Okay Mocsta then i do not understand the question.. :/

Well it may have answered the question, but I need JAT to confirm.

Your response detailed posts past-Day1, which extends beyond the info JAT had when making that post.

It is possible JAT is referring to you calling Pandain town for his opener. But only he can confirm.

Okay i get it. I have called Pandain town in QT and in thread the whole D1 i have been here. When i left he started doing scummy shit and i called him out on it in N1.
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October 28 2013 06:35 GMT
#4596
On October 28 2013 15:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 15:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:26 Onegu wrote:
Mocsta if HF is town why did he claim his vot was public then backpeddle to say it was secret?

Better question is why would he do that as scum?



Because he had too. He claimed then mocsta used his secret vote and "oh shit" my claim cant be public I better say its a secret vote also.

This doesn't make any sense.
Why can't he just do ##something: player and say "okay now i used my extra vote" instead of saying "okay guys i lied"?

Because it would still show up as a "secret vote"

Did he claim something else then? Like "my vote counts twice" or ?
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October 28 2013 06:40 GMT
#4598
On October 28 2013 15:36 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 15:35 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:34 syllogism wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:26 Onegu wrote:
Mocsta if HF is town why did he claim his vot was public then backpeddle to say it was secret?

Better question is why would he do that as scum?



Because he had too. He claimed then mocsta used his secret vote and "oh shit" my claim cant be public I better say its a secret vote also.

This doesn't make any sense.
Why can't he just do ##something: player and say "okay now i used my extra vote" instead of saying "okay guys i lied"?

Because it would still show up as a "secret vote"

Did he claim something else then? Like "my vote counts twice" or ?

No, he said he had an extra vote that he has to publicly announce, but I definitely would be extremely suspicious of a publicly announced vote that shows up as "secret".

Why would you claim that as scum in the first place? Why not just say that you are vanilla and use the vote on LYLO?
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October 28 2013 06:44 GMT
#4601
Like, if he is afraid of a rolecop, wouldn't lying about his role in the first place make it as bad as saying he is vanilla if he is scum?
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October 28 2013 08:20 GMT
#4614
Actually why is syllo not in HF's "slow meta is shit should be lynched" list?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 08:24 GMT
#4618
Also Mocsta, no, i have not talked about ET much in QT. I made one post about ET <-> Sno (after the post you quoted about me asking Sno about his townread on ET). It said i am leaning town on Sno because of his read that's ballsy as he is going against the thread sentiment in giving ET a town read (not that i agree with the read).
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October 28 2013 08:35 GMT
#4628
I claim i am not going to shoot anything or anyone, i am going to candy myself.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#4720
A while ago i finshed reading Grackaroni's filter. Since other people i consider town are filtering other suspects i decided to do Grack first. This is what i find important:
(1) Grack has a lot of scumreads. Nothing but Skanjabs last for like a half of a page in his filter (besides his townread on BH - for what?).
(2) He does never really try to push a lynch on Skanjabs. Not on D2, when he makes the case, not on D3 when he thought Cephiro was town. There is always a better alternative in the end, despite Skanjabs remaining as his scumread for the whole game since he made the case.
(3) He asks people a lot about Skanjabs, but never follows these questions up. In addition to that, he does never really interact with Skanjabs in any way - trying to find out who he is scum with, or making him say something that could enforce his case.
(4) In fact, his interactions with other people do not seem like he is really trying to scumhunt. Half of his filter is pure trolling and other half is calling Skanjabs scum while never pushing his lynch like a townie should push his scumread (taking account his interactions with other people regarding Skan).
(5) None of the people that i think have a chance of flipping scum in this game do not consider Grackaroni as scum. Why is that? He is one of the people whose role is not confirmed nor does it point heavily towards him being town. He is a possible mislynch for scum, in case he is town. Why is there zero scum at least putting up some suspicion on him? Given what he has done this game i find that really fishy.
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October 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#4721
EBWOP: Ignore the double negative in (5).
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raynpelikonoshi
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Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#4727
On October 29 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
The only problem with rayn's case is that it isn't like the real townies are doing the catch scum thing either

We are, it's just that there were people like CR and Cephiro..
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October 28 2013 19:08 GMT
#4731
On October 29 2013 04:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Lots of problems with his case.
1) the list wasn't scum reads. I was ruling people out. The reason I ruled out BH was because i figured this setup would have a medic and BH being medic and RNG made sense considering nobody had healed syllogism and that's what medic should have done. (would have died to Sn0 Man)

2) Case came after day2 because that is when the vote switch happened. Cephiro and CR were both a dead lock.

3) I did interact with Skanjab1s...

4) I pushed Skan. I was really counting on Skanjab1s having exposed himself to save CR. I was mistaken. He still contradicts himself a lot but I'm not as convinced.

5) 5 is actually decent.

1) Anyone looking into your filter will see that you have been calling BH town (at least softly) all game.
2) The point about Cephiro and D3 still stands. Also if you were voting for CR on D4 based on the cop check (you never give any reasoning for why he is scum over Skan), you should have been voting for me instead as i apparently am your scumread.
3) Yes, but it does not seem like you are interacting with your scumread in a sense i brought up in my case.
4) I do not see it. And pre-flip associations are bad.

On a sidenote, i am not sure if my night action goes through because i might have missed the deadline. Not that it means much, but still.. :/
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Profile Joined October 2013
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October 28 2013 19:20 GMT
#4736
I remember you calling out Skanjabs for changing his vote from his scumread to a target that was pushed by his scumread correct?

I found it hilarious because of what happened in Golden Sun D1. :D
Did Skanjabs ever answer to you regarding that? You did the very same thing in Golden Sun and by proxy that should "prove" to you he is in fact scum. You have not been pushing him hard, you have not stood behind your scumread and go against people who are wrong. I don't know why you would do that as town. If you have enough balls to call Cephiro town on D3 when everyone is scum he is scum why don't you have balls to convince people that Skanjabs is scum?
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Profile Joined October 2013
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October 28 2013 19:21 GMT
#4737
EBWOP: "...when everyone thinks he is scum..."
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October 28 2013 19:41 GMT
#4741
On October 26 2013 08:47 Grackaroni wrote:
People have no idea how much it bugs that I accuse Skanjab of having weak justification for a vote change off of his scum read and contradictions and I get ignored. But then Mocsta writes that Skanjab1s case on Sn0 Man was weak. (It was actually quite reasonable; Switching from a scumread on to a policy lynch proposed by your previous scum read is scummy) and then cherry picks some one-liners and says Skanjab doesn't care about the lynch and that constitutes a good case. I could find quotes exactly like that in every single town game Palmar has ever played in or even from my own filter this game.
This is the post in question.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#4744
On October 29 2013 04:31 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing I find funny about that situation is that when I do that in Golden Sun you call me out as scum. You think Skanjab1s made the same mistake that I had made in Golden Sun this game but rather than call him out on it you avoid commenting on the case and instead accuse me of making a case against a weaker player and following my scum meta. Then you start insisting that I write a case on you when I wasn't even interested in lynching you.

Well that's not entirely true; the fact that you come back later to accuse me of not pushing Skanjab1s is pretty funny too.

I do not think it is totally scummy as it has never been pointed out what he in fact did. I would think you would however be interested in this as you did the same thing in your last scumgame. That should enforce your case. Why are you not looking more into it (see my last post where you point it out)?

You have not pushed Skanjab lynch and that is a fact. There is even posts from you that support this heavily. For example, you saying on D3: "I am waiting syllo to come in and disagree with me on Cephiro" etc. That's really fucking fishy and does not imply you are even trying to lynch your top scumread.
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October 28 2013 19:46 GMT
#4749
Oh shit that was actually about Snodude.. Carry on, ignore that about Grack.
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October 28 2013 19:47 GMT
#4750
On October 29 2013 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 04:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:47 Grackaroni wrote:
People have no idea how much it bugs that I accuse Skanjab of having weak justification for a vote change off of his scum read and contradictions and I get ignored. But then Mocsta writes that Skanjab1s case on Sn0 Man was weak. (It was actually quite reasonable; Switching from a scumread on to a policy lynch proposed by your previous scum read is scummy) and then cherry picks some one-liners and says Skanjab doesn't care about the lynch and that constitutes a good case. I could find quotes exactly like that in every single town game Palmar has ever played in or even from my own filter this game.
This is the post in question.

Oh that's me disagreeing with Mocsta's case.

Yeah that is invalid, i thought you guys were talking about Skan when you were in fact talking about Sno.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#4765
DONt'T DRINK IT!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#4766
##Hopeless1der
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#4768
##Vote: Hopeless1der
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#4770
Do not ffs drink it JAT!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#4775
We are 9 alive. 6-3. If HF is scum scum can make it 4-4 in which case if they vote first they have voting advantage (at least tie with town) from now on.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 28 2013 20:17 GMT
#4778
On October 29 2013 05:15 syllogism wrote:
There's 10 alive I believe, 7-3

Okay you are right.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 28 2013 20:18 GMT
#4780
I got the bad candy. I will be roleblocked the next night, so if someone wants to roleblock scum, drive me with scum. :D
I need to ask hosts if it works that way rofl.
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October 28 2013 21:45 GMT
#4792
This is how i feel like:
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Profile Joined October 2013
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October 28 2013 21:50 GMT
#4794
On October 29 2013 06:47 Grackaroni wrote:
meh since you are here why aren't you voting me?

Because perma-cancelling a vote from a most likely town member is essentially a same thing than killing them.
That's fucking scummy.
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October 29 2013 14:42 GMT
#4896
##Unvote:

Squib Holyflare. The extra vote is pretty damn dangerous if he is scum. I kinda want to lynch Grack because he hasn't been doing anything since forever. I am okay with what you guys decide, but i don't think Skan is scum mainly because i think Grack is. I am pretty sure one of them is mafia and atm i am leaning on Grack, could be wrong though.

I got mixed feelings from BH's latest posts and i do not know what to think of him. If i ignore those posts i would say he is definitely scum based on his contributions and what has happened during night phases.
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October 29 2013 14:51 GMT
#4902
If Holyflare has somewhere said he is a squib lynch him.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 29 2013 14:51 GMT
#4903
##Vote: Holyflare
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October 29 2013 14:57 GMT
#4908
On October 29 2013 23:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
What syllo's referring to:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
I am a squib with an extra vote

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2013 02:47 syllogism wrote:
I find that hard to believe since squib is the vt role.


No, squib is someone with no magical powers, hence why my 'power' is not a power, it is a vote.


By this logic shouldn't the masons be squibs too as it's not really a "magical power"?
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October 29 2013 15:01 GMT
#4910
On October 29 2013 23:58 Mocsta wrote:
Wow. If Holyflare is scum he deserves a mafia award.. 20 page filter.. + convincing Day1.

Im going to sleep on this.



Issue with grack is due to Rayn candy.

Apparently he got roleblocked, which is only possible if he is not VT. (so I suppose not related in the squib sense)

No, what the candy did to him was to make him choose either getting roleblocked or take 0.5 KP damage the following night. Whether or not he has a role has nothing to do with that, he can still choose to get roleblocked.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 30 2013 06:24 GMT
#5015
I really do not know what you expect me to do Mocsta. I have pointed out my strongest scumreads. They are BH, Onegu, and Grackaroni based on posting and posting only. Hopeless was earlier but apparently he has some cop potion to prove himself (as in there should be a notification about an alignment check right? - it's hilarious indeed if SCUM have an ALIGNMENT check).

I don't really know Mocsta how you say there is a red check on me. It is kinda true, but then again, if there is a red check on me there is like 150% red check on Onegu, because syllogism in fact IS confirmed town, JAT is not (i know, it's like 0,00000001% possibility that he is not town, but still). Why do you ignore the check on Onegu if you bring up the check on me?

Once again, my activity is not alignment indicative. It is true that in Noir and GoT i was inactive for various reasons. But again, it's fucking not and i hope nobody never brings that as an alignment indicative thing after this game. I will always lynch people for it in future, remember that. I am almost tempted to stop playing and let you lynch me just to prove that..

I am here now, ask me anything.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 30 2013 06:32 GMT
#5016
If you do not want to read whole Grack's filter at least do so from page 16 onwards (where he makes a case on me - i instantly debunk everything he says and he just.. leaves it there). He has said ABSOLUTELY nothing besides occasionally bringing up Skanjabs but never even trying to lynch him (tbh that's what he has done all game). And people say i am not contributing. ffs..
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Profile Joined October 2013
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October 30 2013 06:34 GMT
#5017
And i think everyone knows why BH and Onegu are scummy.
I am only voting for Holyflare because of what syllogism brought up about him not being a squib. That's really BS if he really is not lying about it.
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October 30 2013 06:57 GMT
#5024
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.
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October 30 2013 07:43 GMT
#5030
Holyflare how much mafia have you played?
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October 30 2013 07:48 GMT
#5034
I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about Mocsta, but i do not honestly think Holyflare is scum. That's fucking impossible based on his posts.
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 30 2013 07:49 GMT
#5035
##Unvote:
##Vote: Skanjab1s


I just can't vote for Holyflare.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 30 2013 07:51 GMT
#5036
Blazinghand, Onegu and Skanjabs must be scum.
If one of them is town, Grack must be scum.

There is no other explanation.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
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October 30 2013 08:06 GMT
#5040
When did Holyflare claim squib, when did he claim his extra vote and was he somehow forced to do so?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 30 2013 08:12 GMT
#5045
On October 30 2013 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
I claimed it all on day 2 hufflepiff check was there and I said i have nothing to hide and announced my role to the qt first.

Apparently you had something to hide as you fakeclaimed?
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October 30 2013 08:17 GMT
#5047
On October 30 2013 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 17:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 30 2013 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
I claimed it all on day 2 hufflepiff check was there and I said i have nothing to hide and announced my role to the qt first.

Apparently you had something to hide as you fakeclaimed?


I said i could make my vote count twice, intentionally not revealing anything else just in case and then when i revealed storr and matt made everyone else reveal. The whole qt was a real witch hunt and if i said it was a secret vote they would of lynched me, despite everyone calling each other town reads.

So if you had nothing to hide why did you hide something?
If you were so goddamn town why would your role make people lynch you?
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October 30 2013 08:18 GMT
#5048
And why did you not use your extra vote when you said you would?
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October 30 2013 08:21 GMT
#5050
On October 30 2013 17:19 syllogism wrote:
To be specific, he said that he had an extra vote that he announces in the thread, not jus tthat he could make his vote count twice.

That's what i am referring to when i say "hiding something". I am aware of that.
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October 30 2013 08:22 GMT
#5053
Oh lol, right syllo. So you are lying again Holyflare?
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October 30 2013 08:23 GMT
#5054
On October 30 2013 17:21 Holyflare wrote:
It was a 1 time vote and i didn't want to waste it on cephiro but then everyone got mad so i used it on rqy the next day straight away. It was a real possibility scum was there i didn't want to give everything away. People in my qt were dumb, listed me as town and then for no reason listed me as most likely to not be town in the same breath and that was without me saying it was secret. I wouldn't be here if it was said.

Then why did you promise to use it on Cephiro in the first place (you did so right?)?
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October 30 2013 08:29 GMT
#5059
I don't give a fuck about Hopeless atm. Holyflare answer me please.
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Profile Joined October 2013
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October 30 2013 08:37 GMT
#5062
You are right yuou didn't say you would use the vote.

On October 23 2013 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
.................... -.- is everyone lying about their roles then?!?!?!?!

Oh god this post is so very bad.

Why do you make my head hurt Holyflare?
fuck it.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Holyflare

I am terribly sorry if you are town, it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense as scum either but if it doesn't make sense as either alignment has to be scum. Worked 2/2 in Thug life.
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October 30 2013 08:40 GMT
#5067
That post makes absolutely zero sense given that you are at that time yourself lying about your role.
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October 30 2013 08:44 GMT
#5070
On October 30 2013 17:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 17:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
That post makes absolutely zero sense given that you are at that time yourself lying about your role.


That's why i posted it??? "oh everyone is lying then -.-" why does that make me the scummiest? 4 or 5 people have done the same thing.

Because you call people out for lying about their powers when you are yourself unnecessarily harcore lying about yours?!!??!!?
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raynpelikonoshi
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October 30 2013 08:51 GMT
#5074
On October 30 2013 17:49 Holyflare wrote:
I fail to see how that's alignment indicative? It wasn't just a call out it was a semi admittance too.

Why do you do this? Why do you lie about your power in the first place if you are town? Why o why? Because i do not see any reason to do so...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 09:05 GMT
#5079
God i am off to bed as i couldn't sleep well and my head hurts..
Vote stands.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 20:36 GMT
#5197
Tahnk god syllo. I am roleblocked tonight in case scum have some shitty another 0.5 KP.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#5201
On October 31 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:36 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Tahnk god syllo. I am roleblocked tonight in case scum have some shitty another 0.5 KP.

?

I got bad candy last night. :/
And for the record i am not scum JAT. I am disappoint son.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:01 GMT
#5205
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:13 GMT
#5207
On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.

I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me?

It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it?
Are you those other people?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:20 GMT
#5210
On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 07:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.

I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me?

It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it?
Are you those other people?

The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad.

So other people who have done the same thing later on are scummy but my case on you is bad? Elaborate more please.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:22 GMT
#5211
On October 31 2013 07:18 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.

I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me?

It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it?
Are you those other people?

The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad.

Half of the case said that I am town, so yeah, as a case against someone you think is scum, it was pretty bad.

And you don't seem to be understanding what i am trying to say. I was looking through your filter and i (1) explained why i had a townread on you on D1 and (2) why you are extremely scummy after that. It's not that hard, it can't be.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:32 GMT
#5214
On October 31 2013 07:26 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:18 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
[quote]

I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.

I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me?

It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it?
Are you those other people?

The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad.

Half of the case said that I am town, so yeah, as a case against someone you think is scum, it was pretty bad.

And you don't seem to be understanding what i am trying to say. I was looking through your filter and i (1) explained why i had a townread on you on D1 and (2) why you are extremely scummy after that. It's not that hard, it can't be.


I am extremely scummy because I said that yamato is town that one time while I was trying to push Sno.
That happened a really long time ago, yet you have been calling me town since way after that.
Why is it only relevant now?

Because i was literally not here on D2 and have not read your filter/posts after that.
On D3 i thought Cephiro was scum so i didn't care. On D4 i thought Grack/CR is scum so i didn't care. Now i do care.

On October 31 2013 07:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 07:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
- Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town.
- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that.
- Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town.
- He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game.
- Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato.
- This is an odd post:
On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote:
If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one.

On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people?

- Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts):
I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable.

On D2 however:
On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.


- Weird voting on D2.
- Contradicts himself again on yamato
- Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit.

I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then.

I want to kill Rayn with fire. The only 2 points he has for Skanjab1s being scum were rehashed from what I originally wrote, and he gave me hell when I wrote a case on Skanjab1s.

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn


I do not know which is more suspicious. Someone (Skan) contradicting himself about yamato or you having a dude as top scumread for the whole game and never pushing his lynch. If you can't understand why this is so really scummy you are [insert something here].

You have literally called Skajabs scum the whole game but every single day you find a better lynch and you never really try to convince people into lynching your top scumread.

That's what you have done this game. Even on D3 when you were "totally sure" Cephiro is town you did absolutely nothing to make people consider Skanjab lynch over Cephiro.

I seem to recall many other people believing HF was town last cycle and doing absolutely nothing to convince people to change. What does that say about your case on me?

It says absolutely nothing about you. Why would it?
Are you those other people?

The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad.

So other people who have done the same thing later on are scummy but my case on you is bad? Elaborate more please.

They aren't scummy lol. Mocsta did it and he is probably not scum. JAT also is pretty much confirmed town and was against the lynch and did close to nothing to change it.

This is entirely a different thing that you are doing.
Anyways i am not here to convince you. syllo is good enough to see what i am talking about and Mocsta while making some weird overtry posts last day will listen to legit reasoning.

Good night.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:34 GMT
#5216
Here you are again Grackaroni, calling me scum with your top scumread. That's so hilarious i don't even know what to say. You always find excuses to not talk to Skanjabs at all. You lay out a case and happily watch town lynch someone else. <3
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:38 GMT
#5218
oh god lol..
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 30 2013 22:54 GMT
#5222
On October 31 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
And fyi I don't have anything to talk with Skanjab about because he's done absolutely nothing since day2. You trying to make it out as if I'm incapable of talking with teammates is pretty cute though.

I have never suggested you are teammates which you would know if you have read my posts.
Why are you even suggesting such a thing?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 05:39 GMT
#5311
Oh Mocsta. I seriously hope syllogism gets here pretty soon.
I thought you were actually decent as town Mocsta... What's wrong with you?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 05:52 GMT
#5313
On October 31 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 14:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh Mocsta. I seriously hope syllogism gets here pretty soon.
I thought you were actually decent as town Mocsta... What's wrong with you?

U wanna be like that.

Nothings gonna change.

There's some really weird comments hr makes early on about Grack too

I don't care because if a mafia guy says something about someone else (or doesn't say) it doesn't tell anything about their alignment. *sigh*

It's pretty basic stuff.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 06:14 GMT
#5315
On October 31 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 14:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On October 31 2013 14:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh Mocsta. I seriously hope syllogism gets here pretty soon.
I thought you were actually decent as town Mocsta... What's wrong with you?

U wanna be like that.

Nothings gonna change.

There's some really weird comments hr makes early on about Grack too

I don't care because if a mafia guy says something about someone else (or doesn't say) it doesn't tell anything about their alignment. *sigh*

It's pretty basic stuff.

Right....

What a stupid way to brush it off.

What do you suggest i do? What i can do? Make up some reason why he would say that. How the fuck am i supposed to do that as town when i have absolutely no idea why he did what he did and said what he said?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 06:22 GMT
#5316
Don't make this too hard. There were two nights Blazinghand was roleblocked. There were no night kills. Then there was one night when Blazinghand was not roleblocked, there was a night kill, on a guy he claims to have protected that night.

That makes zero sense and Blazinghand is scum. On top of that he has given the town nothing at all.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 06:29 GMT
#5318
There is such no thing as too scummy/dumb to be scum. I am now 3/3 on the last three.
If you want references here we go:
- Holyflare's claim this game
- S0lstice counter-claiming cop after two cycles in Thuglife and letting Koshi run around confirming people without saying anything (and people discussed if he was in fact the real cop ffs)
- CR claiming scum in Thug life during the night "because of not getting hit" when he was the #1 lynch candidate for the next day and under serious pressure (yes, people considered if he was in fact town the next day...)

4/4 is Blazinghand this game.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 06:34 GMT
#5319
First of all i do not buy the bullshit that BH can protect the same person more than once in a row. There is a reason that's not allowed in games any more. It possibly makes someone invulnerable to the point when mafia finds the medic. The claim is 100% fake, unless it's real and a mafia role.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 07:15 GMT
#5329
I have no idea BH. The fact remains that you protected Sn0 and he died. I have no idea why you would say so as mafia, maybe because you have claimed to be able to protect same person two times a row and it would look worse if you did not protect him and he died. It does not make sense Sn0 died if you really did protect him, therefore you most likely are lying.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 07:18 GMT
#5330
On October 31 2013 16:10 Blazinghand wrote:
this is my fault for letting things get like this anyways

Since when does Blazinghand say this kinda crap before post-game?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 07:30 GMT
#5331
Blazinghand can you at least start drawing some nice MS-Paint pictures that would make me laugh as you in any case have no intention to scumhunt.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 07:39 GMT
#5333
I am confused. You claimed to not be able to protect the same person twice in a row and now you claim you have done so?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 07:44 GMT
#5334
Okay so this is what happened:
Hosts: "You are a non-consecutive medic"
Blazinghand: "But hey, can i save this one dude i saved the last night regardless of it"
Hosts: "Well sure you can!"
Blazinghand: "Doc Sn0"
Hosts: "Okay"
Sn0_man has died.

Who thinks this is totally legit raise your hand!
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 08:13 GMT
#5335
Oh i get it, you are trying to say you were given a permission to save Sno on N4 because you were roleblocked on N3 right?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 08:54 GMT
#5337
On October 31 2013 17:44 Mocsta wrote:
Doesn't matter.

Bis last successful save was Sno
His last rb save was Sno

No matter what it wouldn't go through lol

Talk about derp

What?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:05 GMT
#5339
But really.. only because Sno is dead and BH claims to have protected him the last night....
nothing else matters..

[image loading]

stop pants on head please.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:05 GMT
#5340
oh 2 not pants on head. good mocsta.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:08 GMT
#5341
damn forgot candy from the picture. :/
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:11 GMT
#5343
Mocsta roleblock BH plz.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:12 GMT
#5344
On October 31 2013 18:10 Mocsta wrote:
Whats ya problem with what I am saying?

We are on the same page; I'm providing irrefutable evidence.

I suspect BH is aware of this, hence the appeal to emotion the day before.

Yes i get it now, didn't get it in the first place.
Roleblock BH, i eat candy and take 0.5 KP, if i see some "vanilla squibalurts" like Grackaroni or Skanjabby (i don't give a fuck he hasn't claimed -- he shoulddo that right now) visit someone game solved.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:14 GMT
#5345
33% * players who use night action = chance to reveal final scum.
Other option = scum NK does not go through.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:16 GMT
#5347
Well then my ability is useless as BH can just send in the kill. Is there anyone with rb left?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:18 GMT
#5349
I kinda believe Onegu's claim. I doubt BH would have sent in NK two nights in a row when rb'd N2.
Last scum is framer.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:19 GMT
#5350
On October 31 2013 18:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Well then my ability is useless as BH can just send in the kill. Is there anyone with rb left?

so u think grack is last scum?

More than Skanjabs. Doesn't really matter.
Both Grack and HF tried to make a case on me at some point and failed horribly.

skanjabs gave a town read on me just while ago. that's bad if he is scum as he'll run out of mislynches.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:22 GMT
#5352
On October 31 2013 18:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I kinda believe Onegu's claim. I doubt BH would have sent in NK two nights in a row when rb'd N2.
Last scum is framer.

Like, i mean this:
BH: "Hey our NK did not go through, i was rb'd" or "i was RB'd (and someone was docced - i don't remember where sno was on N2)"
BH: "but hey, let me send in the kill again on N3 - i doubt Mocsta is smart enough to rb the same guy because the NK failed last time"
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:22 GMT
#5353
On October 31 2013 18:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I kinda believe Onegu's claim. I doubt BH would have sent in NK two nights in a row when rb'd N2.
Last scum is framer.

so do u think grack is scum?

yes.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:23 GMT
#5354
On October 31 2013 18:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I kinda believe Onegu's claim. I doubt BH would have sent in NK two nights in a row when rb'd N2.
Last scum is framer.

Like, i mean this:
BH: "Hey our NK did not go through, i was rb'd" or "i was RB'd (and someone was docced - i don't remember where sno was on N2)"
BH: "but hey, let me send in the kill again on N3 - i doubt Mocsta is smart enough to rb the same guy because the NK failed last time"

This is the only scenario where Onegu is scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:28 GMT
#5357
What i am trying to say is. Think about yourself in BH's situation.

Whether or not you sent in the kill on N2 (you probably did as there was no-kill), you got roleblocked by Mocsta, who claimed the roleblock. Town knows you were roleblocked, would you risk sending in the kill again on N3 in case the roleblocker just "wants to be sure of you" -- after all he rb'd a claimed doctor on N2 already.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:30 GMT
#5359
what does redirection & magic carp do?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:35 GMT
#5361
If Skanjabs does not claim before resolution period (aka. he needs to claim asap) we lynch him after BH.
If Skanjabs claims squib we lynch him after BH.
There is no question about it, in either of those scenarios he is/has hurt the town enough.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 09:39 GMT
#5362
On October 31 2013 18:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
what does redirection & magic carp do?

I can choose a target and have their night actions redirected

magic carpet swaps the actions of A to B

(I cant remember if B is the magic carpet user)

I think you should use your judgement on what to do.

My personal view is for the last scum:
Grackaroni (75%)
Skanjabs (24%)
Onegu (1% - if BH was really dumb on N3)

One of you, syllo & JAT is gonna get hit no question about it.

It doesn't matter if me, Onegu, Skan, or Grack dies as it helps you.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 10:31 GMT
#5365
On October 31 2013 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Concerning BH as scum - what I don't understand is why they would shoot sno if BH claimed to save him. Why would they do that?

It doesn't matter. Sn0 was docced + hit -> he died = doctor lies.
+ see what Mocsta said.

Also see my awesome picture case on Grackaroni which i am awaiting his answer for.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 10:33 GMT
#5367
On October 31 2013 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 19:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Concerning BH as scum - what I don't understand is why they would shoot sno if BH claimed to save him. Why would they do that?

It doesn't matter. Sn0 was docced + hit -> he died = doctor lies.
+ see what Mocsta said.

Also see my awesome picture case on Grackaroni which i am awaiting his answer for.

If I add what Mocsta said it is possible that BH was unable to save Sno because he was his last save that wasn't roleblocked.

yeah but he claimed that hosts said it was okay. which is impossible.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:29 GMT
#5469
I got the canary candy. :/

##Vote: Grackaroni
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:31 GMT
#5471
Have you been reading?
I changed the action when we figured for sure BH is scum with Mocsta.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:44 GMT
#5476
Gracaroni seems to be somehow knowing Onegu is town. Weird.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:44 GMT
#5478
Yeah how does Grackaroni know Onegu is town?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#5480
On November 01 2013 06:46 Grackaroni wrote:
You do realize in order for me to win as scum I would have to lynch you/Skanjab1s AND Onegu right?

I don't care who do you need lynch or who you don't.
I wanna know why you know Ongu is town.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:51 GMT
#5482
Which is..?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 21:53 GMT
#5484
It is a very simple question Grackaroni and i want you to answer it because i do not understand how you can possibly know Onegu is town unless you slipped in your post and are scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:01 GMT
#5487
On November 01 2013 06:55 syllogism wrote:
Can we go back to lynching Skanjab and end this. It doesn't even matter since it's completely impossible for mafia to win unless I'm mafia.

It's not impossible for mafia to win.
If they lynch all the unconfirmeds who are town they win.

And Grackaroni just said he knows Onegu is town which he cannot possibly know.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:04 GMT
#5488
Oh yeah, Skanjabs and his claim.
That's right he goes first while i sitll believe Grackaroni has been underperforming so hard this game if he is town.
If Skanjabs is scum i must say Grack - you did a fine job tunneling scum without ever trying to lynch them. <3

##Unvote:
##Vote: Skanjabs
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:11 GMT
#5492
On November 01 2013 07:05 syllogism wrote:
Me and Mocsta can still both self-protect, among other things

If that's correct then Skan is probably scum because Grack had conceded already.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:13 GMT
#5493
On November 01 2013 07:05 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to try my very best to ignore that but I make no promises.

Like i know i have not been the best townie here because the town has played like shit all game but i find it very weird that you have had him as a scumread since forever. D2 you didn't do anything to push him after your case. D3 you even said Cephiro is sure town and did nothing to push him. D4 idk because CR was bad, D5 Holyflare was reasonable vote but then you suddenly say i am your top scumread over the guy you've been tunneling all game and now you are voting for him again. Makes no sense to me..
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:14 GMT
#5494
You also have had BH as town for the whole game ffs..
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:30 GMT
#5498
I agree this is my fault. I just was not here on D2 and i should have done this:
I Literally told you 5-10 times I wanted you to look at Skanjab and you refused to do it


I was pretty sure CR was town when he made his post with numbers andshit. Too bad i thought the deadline was one hour later so i couldn't do anything about it. :/
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:32 GMT
#5501
Skanjabs roleclaim right now.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:35 GMT
#5506
On November 01 2013 07:33 Skanjab1s wrote:
No thanks.

scum. kill with fire.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#5508
On November 01 2013 07:34 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not trying to pass the blame on to you. It just annoys me how you say I'm underperforming considering how the game has gone from my perspective.

The only thing i think you are underperforming for is that you have literall had Skanjabs as your top scumread with a good case on him from D2 and you havn't managed to convince the town to kill him. :D

I agree town hasn't helped much in that, especially Cephiro and CR...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#5509
On November 01 2013 07:36 Skanjab1s wrote:
Don't be silly rayn, you know I'm not scum.

If you are not scum you will roleclaim right now because if you don't you'll get 100% lynched.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:39 GMT
#5512
On November 01 2013 07:38 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 07:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:36 Skanjab1s wrote:
Don't be silly rayn, you know I'm not scum.

If you are not scum you will roleclaim right now because if you don't you'll get 100% lynched.

That sentence is factually inaccurate because I'm not roleclaiming and I'm not scum.

It's accurate in a sense that if you are town and don't do it, you'll get lynched and you are playing against your wincon.
I don't give a shit if you are scum and refuse to claim.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 31 2013 22:43 GMT
#5515
I might aswell go play the other game as Skanjabs is not interested in cooperating..

cya
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 07:48 GMT
#5551
##Unvote:
##Vote: Grackaroni

Case:
+ Show Spoiler +

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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 07:57 GMT
#5554
I find Onegu's & Skanjab's comments this phase extremely unlike to come from scum.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:15 GMT
#5557
On November 01 2013 16:56 Grackaroni wrote:
You should notice that I did start changing my mind on BH when Sn0 Man revealed his full role. I didn't have him as town all game. You aren't really one for getting your facts straight though.

Interestingly enough it doesn't show from your filter.
On November 01 2013 17:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Just an fyi, I wouldn't have it in me to save Blazinghand as scum.

Guy does nothing as scum every time and gets accused by town. He then claims a role to save himself. He pulls these dumb shenanigans like the "Well I'm survivor, I won't help town at all and I am just going to vote the whoever I think I can lynch besides myself" "I will not be scum hunting" (Don't worry Grack, I'm not giving away any connections) or the "I don't have it in me to play mafia anymore! Marvellosity crushed my spirits..." (I'm sure he did it for the same reason; Hey, now that we killed Sn0 Man I will continue to be useless so that I won't give away any possible hints to my teammates)

I would have lynched the fuck out of him lol.

Yes and having just played with him as scum you should have seen though his bullshit as town now. And see the above.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:24 GMT
#5560
D5 you considered BH for a lynch, amongst two other people, who were far more scummy than BH in case i trust what you have been saying in thread...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:25 GMT
#5562
And do not give this bullshit about "i would have bussed the shit out of BH". Ofc you wouldn't because you can't buss in a situation where 3/6 of scumteam gets whacked on N1..
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:27 GMT
#5564
On November 01 2013 17:16 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 15:13 Holyflare wrote:
What I really actually want to know Pandain is why the summary but leave out the entire starting argument? What did you glean from Skanjab1s replies to Toads pressure. Deflecting?

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 05:09 Pandain wrote:
The people who contributed greatly earlier on in the thread were:

Hopeless
Last Argument
Skanjabs
Yamato

I have town reads on all of these people and others, upon analyzing them, should confirm/deny this from their own perspective.

I also would like it if someone took the time to summarize their House QT for the thread.


Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote:
Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely.

I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum.

skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him?

Hmm

I don't think this means anything syllo, Skanjabs' play on D1 was all well and townie.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:32 GMT
#5566
Way to discretit me Grack. You havn't been any more right than me or anyone in this game.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 08:36 GMT
#5569
On November 01 2013 17:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I've been more right if it is Skanjab. More wrong if it is Onegu.

That's WIFOM. I have been more right if it's you. See what i did there?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 10:32 GMT
#5592
On November 01 2013 05:12 You-Know-Who wrote:
Blazinghand as Blaise Zabini was killed.
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the arrogant Blaise Zabini. You don’t like to dirty your own hands, therefore twice in the game you may cast the Imperius Curse which allows you to make the targeted player carry out a night action for your team. PM the host with ##Imperio: XY.

You win with Scum.



Remember that the day phase now only lasts 24 hours!


Who was a tracker/watcher?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 10:39 GMT
#5596
Nah it's probably because of the redirect powers there are..
My track is shitty anyways.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 18:36 GMT
#5610
I probably can't be here @ deadline. I would still prefer Grack lynch.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 01:03 GMT
#5640
Can we just lynch Grack?
I hope syllo & Mocsta actually read his filter before daypost in case they die..
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 08:37 GMT
#5644
I just read Onegu's filter and it's really really townie..
I found something interesting:
On October 18 2013 03:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.


Secondly,

Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far?


Thirdly,

I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion.


Lastly,
I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this.

I am a self-aware miller.

After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this.
So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it.


one question are you a squib?

what a dumb question lol.

A self-aware miller can in no way be a squib but apparently a guy with an extra vote can, right Grackaroni?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 08:57 GMT
#5645
Here's what i am going to do.
I will candy Onegu.

66% chance i will prove my power to be true (if he gets canary or weak track).
33% chance he gets roleblock / 0.5KP

We lynch Grackaroni the scum and win the game. In case Grackaroni is somehow a squib-i-da-doo we have either:
1) I have proved my power and we lynch Onegu
2) Onegu is roleblocked the next night, or takes 0.5KP.
2.1) If he decides to take 0.5 KP there is a chance JAT gets another 0.5 KP power and can shoot Onegu and we win, you can even lynch me then.

Sounds good?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 08:58 GMT
#5646
If Onegu get's the track candy there is a possibility he'll see Grackaroni the scum squirming around visiting someone who he is going to kill and the game is over right there.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:01 GMT
#5648
Also remember case because awesome:
+ Show Spoiler +

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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:02 GMT
#5649
Did anyone send in challenge? I did.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:04 GMT
#5651
I sent I didn't like he chopped my other head off, best qualities is to give me good candy and make Grack post baby seals.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:12 GMT
#5652
Oh Onegu can lie getting the roleblock candy, while he in fact doesn't. But i am pretty sure he does not know the name of the candy so good luck trying if that is the case. <3
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:16 GMT
#5653
I have nothing else to do so i'll paraphrase out QT with Koshi so that Grack can find something to call me scum for.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:51 GMT
#5655
We get our role PM and discuss our role. We decide it's really bad and useless.
We ask hosts to clarify the flavor and how the powers work. We decide the role is really really bad and useless.
We curse candy.
I say we dedicate this game to try to hit on Hermione, guess is Pandain. That will make Harry Potter (Vayne) jealous.
We discuss the pick up line.
Koshi asks what do i think of VA.
I say from QT VA town, Pandain slight town, Ceph scum, other ppl no idea.
Koshi disagrees with VA, because he gave Pandain a townread on nothing.
We decide to pressure Cephiro.
I say ET and Palmar probably good lynches if Ceph proves his towniness somehow. Koshi agrees.
I say i think actually Palmar is town.
Koshi disagrees, i tell him why Palmar is town (LA's post in thread)
We discuss Vayne's role because he said "i fucked Harry Potter" in thread, Koshi says probably Ginny Weasley.
Koshi asks if i think LA is marv, i say i don't care who LA is atm.
I tell Cephiro's play is 100% like in Noir.
Koshi says we will lynch Cephiro, i say i am at LAN-party and can't be doing much - good idea.
Koshi says StorrZerg good lynch too.
I ask wtf happened with Palmar lynch and am mad.
Koshi says dnu.
I am mad because i told Palmar is town and should have not been lynched.
I tell my thoughts on Koshi's post in thread, where he says Mocsta,Storr,Matt,Ceph,JAT scum. I say i agree but not on Mocsta and Storr. I tell him i will look into them on D2.
Koshi says Matt might be scum because the D1 wagon on him that was odd.
I say Pandain has gone to his scum!mode.
I say see Pandain was scum rofl.
Koshi has no idea what to do and wants to wait for the vets to figure it out.
I ask why is our vote on BH, Koshi says he wants BH to do shit and pressure worked on Cephiro.
Koshi says Stutters is suspicious because marv was bitter of him in their QT. Cephiro needs to die but need to pressure other people first. He reads HF & Sno as town. Grack no scum but maybe SK.
I am confused because i did not know LA & Stutters were masons, Koshi explains.
Koshi is mad on Matt & Storr because something is off there. Koshi proposes what if Storr fakes coprole and when Matt turns red he will be "cleared".
I say let's kill Cephiro. I say Storr seems town and Matt is useless but he was useless in Noir aswell.
Koshi talks more about his conspiracy theory on Matt/Storr.
I say Cephiro does a townie thing in our house QT.
We are confused how Cephiro knows our rolename and about candy.
I tell Koshi i will ask Cephiro about it in house QT.
We hope Cephiro has power to make our bad candy a good one. We troll about candy bacause so bad.
We talk about challenge.
Koshi asks me about Ceph, i say i think he is town because of his ploy in house QT seems like Aperture play.
I say maybe we vote for yamato/CR. Then i say no we vote for Stutters but tell Koshi to be ready to switch to CR if shennies at the end of phase.
Koshi thinks Vayne is scum again because not posting.
We talk about maybe giving candy to vayne.
We talk about reads, decide scum in Matt,Onegu,JAT,Vayne,Hopeless, CR.
We talk about who to give candy, decide Grack because he is vanilla and we might try to abuse it.
I think Grack claims scum when he goes from: "THIS GUYS IS SCUM, AND THIS GUY IS SCUM" to: "I dunno, maybe it's your fakeclaim? I am vanilla". I call bullshit in his tone.
I get mad because people called my reads bad in thread. I don't want to play anymore. Koshi tells me to calm down.
I tell Koshi to look into this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...urrentpage=170#3392 which is bullshit.
Koshi asks if Grack is scum, i say yes.
I ask why there was no NK on N2, Koshi explains Mocsta roleblocked BH so he is scum but more likely he got hit and Sno docced him.
I tell Grack makes really bad arguments on us, Koshi agrees.
We discuss challenge.
Koshi loves blue roles in this game, except one.. Ron "Candy" Trashley. Koshi is sad.
Koshi has idea for a t-shirt: I played Hogwarts Mafia and all i got were those lousy candies.
Koshi says i need not to do dumb shit, calm down, and we need to lynch Holyflare.
I say i do not get lynched as town.
We discuss who to give candy. We decide to eat candy ourselves.
Koshi says Grack and BH may be scum.
I say i think CR might be town for his post with numers and LYLO and shit because it's so off.
Koshi gets modkilled.

I start writing a diary. Once.. maybe twice a day. Wanna hear that too?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 02 2013 09:51 GMT
#5656
On November 02 2013 18:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 17:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I just read Onegu's filter and it's really really townie..
I found something interesting:
On October 18 2013 03:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.


Secondly,

Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far?


Thirdly,

I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion.


Lastly,
I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this.

I am a self-aware miller.

After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this.
So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it.


one question are you a squib?

what a dumb question lol.

A self-aware miller can in no way be a squib but apparently a guy with an extra vote can, right Grackaroni?

Hes been queried about this about 3 or 4 times.

Its WIFOM (but i agree with you)

Why is it wifom?
A guy who is not vanilla cannot be squib but another guy not vanilla can.
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