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On October 17 2013 05:09 Grackaroni wrote: ##Propose Alliance: Slytherin ##Declare War: Ravenclaw ##Send Warning: Gryffindor - "you're next" Hufflepuff! Ptsh, if you think us mighty Slytherins would ally ourselves with bottomfeeders Hufflescum you've got another thing coming. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##vote: Skanjab1s Bring it on slytherin scum State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:24 Grackaroni wrote: You forget yourself, Hufflepuff is home to the greatest witches and wizards around. Wahahah, thats a good one! You really had me going for a while there. *Phew* Ah Grackaroni, you crack me up, I'll let you live, for now. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote: Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia. Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house. Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:52 supersoft wrote: can you give me the exact quote of his question? I tend to trust these noob-"slips"... ^_^ I'll tell you about my houseQT later, i wanna give my proposal from above (houseclaims etc.) some time. Maybe someone points out a flaw in my idea. There is no need to rush things... I'm not a noob either. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:54 supersoft wrote: OKAY WAIT I want you guys to post all the posts from your house QTs regarding this 1mafia per house theory. "I assume there would be one scum in each house?" - Skanjab1s "Not necessarily." - FirmTofu | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:48 Grackaroni wrote: 1) the voting thread wasn't even created when I posted. 2) It's not a real vote 3) Watching for players being afraid to put votes in the voting thread at the start of the game is a silly and ineffective method of scumhunting. :O I wouldn't expect a member of the loyal house of huffenough to lie! The voting thread was totes created before the game started. | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:56 supersoft wrote: yes you are? you didnt read the rules before you started this game? how newbie is that? Very newbie! How do you even plan on playing this game? are you just here to chat with us a little bit? Are you just here to be a dumb troll? | ||
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On October 17 2013 06:56 I-be-Pro wrote: The point I'm making is that it's a hosts job to answer that with no no matter what, even if that answer actually is yes. There never was a chance to get a yes out of that answer. I was actually asking the people in our house what they thought, not the host. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Skanjab1s "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' You know the compositions of each house, huh? | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:06 I-be-Pro wrote: I actually agree with the bottom one and it's one of the things that came up in my head as well. I get that he didn't catch the no copy&paste rule. But I assume if he rolled town he at least would check on the number of mafias in the game if it's so plainly in the OP. AT LEAST when he's having ideas like that himself (his theory). When he posted it in the QT and I checked the number instantly because I was pretty sure I saw 6 mafia and wanted to confirm. I've seen this particular one happening from mafia at least once, might have been even me no idea. Well then you assume incorrectly. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote: 1) Do you think scumteam already knows who is in each House? 2) Do you understand why I am saying you are scum? 1) Duh 2) You are trying to make it seem as if I'm asking these questions to pretend that I don't know the answers. Calling me scum for asking what house someone is in is retarded. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Twice the right answer. New question: 1) Why are you twisting my words and pretending that I just scumslipped when you knew the purpose behind my post? I wasn't, your asking for the purpose behind the post made me realise it. When you said "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" it implied that you knew how many scum there are (and you do). So for the "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House" it also implied that you knew who was in each house. When you asked me for the purpose I realised that it was not the case for the latter quote. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:17 Zaragon wrote: Guess we'll let the Houses trickle out to fuel discussion. There is the off-chance that scum has no one in two whole Houses, too. After my last game, I'm going to be more careful about dismissing something very unlikely prematurely. I realized something is going to be very confusing: bits of rayn's scum play looks similar to Koshi's town, and their hydra is not particularly stating who is talking (unless I missed them setting up times or something in the pregame). For an early read, them using that ambiguity I'll put down as leaning slightly scum. skanjab1s is just odd so far, somewhat scummy and/or new; any meta on him? (1) Not new. Odd in what way? (2) Your scumread on raynoshi is just because you don't know who is posting? Thats hardly a reason to think someone scum, especially since they have already stated earlier before the game started that rayn will put his name at the end of his posts. | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote: hahahaha plz tell the thread why you are certain I am scum. Are you talking to me? Where did I call you scum at all? | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:39 I-be-Pro wrote: Why do you put so much emphasis on how that's not a reason to think someone's scum instead of putting emphasis on him doing it? It's a valid point you make but the basic idea behind it is completly wrong. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have seen that and yet noone is defending him because you usually don't want to defend other people in their stead; you want to see them defend themselves unless you already know their alignment. You ARE kind of attacking Zaragon but you're making a bigger deal out of defending here. Why? I'm not making a bigger deal out of defending. I'm pointing out the flaws in Zaragon's reasoning behind him thinking that rayn is scum. How can I be making a big deal out of defending the argument of "Rayn is scum because I don't know if rayn or koshi is speaking, even though they have said so before". | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:52 I-be-Pro wrote: The first one downplays his accusation, the 2nd one downplays his accusation again, the 3rd one is defending. What I'm saying is I usually like people a lot more when they have a somewhat agressive tone to them. Mafias have a hard time picking sides and accusing people because they have to make shit up. You're lacking the balls to call him out clearly for what he does. I don't mind you pointing out the flaws if you'd use it to attack him but you're just happy stating his flaws. The fuck are you talking about? I am very clearly calling him out for what he does, and I am very clearly questioning him. Secondly, there are only two bolded points there. And obviously I'm downplaying his accusation, in the fact THAT IM POINTING OUT THE FLAWED REASONING. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote: Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing: Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him. snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...) Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry. If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no? | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:07 Hopeless1der wrote: Skanj name someone in the thread that might care about your QT convos. Nobody at all, we haven't had much conversation yet. Just a couple posts about the Challenge. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote: It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1. Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things. I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping  So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads" | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:15 Hopeless1der wrote: Maybe you misunderstood my question. Someone in the game thread specifically indicated he wanted qt convos to be related in this thread. I was asking if you knew who that was. Oh yeah, I misunderstood you then. Thought you were just trying to see who we were discussing in our QT or something. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Why don't you 1-up him by posting important things? Oh, I am. | ||
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1-up'd. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:22 Hopeless1der wrote: Skanj, humor me at least...who was I referring to? supersoft | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:35 Holyflare wrote: What do you think of him OMGUSing this. His defenses have been kind of shitty IMO and then when someone says they want to generate discussion he is surprised by it? Any discussion that isn't the normal policy lynch crap is good discussion. Look at what we've got already, people soft defending, people criticising and people discussing. Why is he attacking for this? It is not an OMGUS at all. I'm not voting for him, nor am I FoSing him. Calm down sonny. Also calling me out for OMGUSing is quite silly when all the active people barr one have accused me. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote: If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now. | ||
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On October 17 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote: He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts. I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information. Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared? | ||
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On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote: ##Expelliarmus! yamato77 butterbeer on me What did that do? | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad. Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that. You say that you initially went after me to get a read on me, and you also say that I'm not a townread for you, then why would you not want to pursue me further? I am either a null read, in which case you should want to continue in your initial intention, or I am a scumread and you should want to get me lynched. Either way, hoping for others to attack me for you while you sit back isn't very protown. | ||
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I think he is scum, I dislike a lot of his posts: (1) He has been making a habit of lightly FoSing a bunch of people, but then not following up. Which feels to me like he is fishing for someone to latch on to, and waiting for town's consent before being willing to proceed. Examples: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: that if it was Rayn I would lynch him on the spot? + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote: I will say about Matt, it seems odd to me that he instantly seems to trust me this game when I believe he thought I was mafia last game on D1 for absolutely no reason. I expect town Matt to be very suspicious of other people; it seems out of place for him to have such friendly interaction with me. All of these show yamato lightly FoSing people, and then failing to mention/pursue them again. (2) Here is another example that would fit in #1, but I feel it deserves a special mention because it shows yamato's inconsistency in his scum choices. On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: zzzzzzzzzz Moc your opening posts always reek of scum He mentions Moc's post as "reeking of scum" but refuses to state what was scummy about the post. He futhermore, does not further pressure Moc, and instead, a short while later, defends Moc for the exact same post that he just said "reeks of scum": On October 17 2013 10:41 yamato77 wrote: this is true, but town in GoT were the idiots who came up with the secrecy idea in the first place, so this doesn't mean Moc is mafia unless he's playing intentionally stupid (3) After some game mechanics talk, we arrive at his OMGUS vote on VA. After VA casted "Expelliarmus" on him, he cast a vote onto VA with the reasoning "I'm sick of you". If we just ignore the OMGUS, this is still very poor reasoning for a vote, especially considering the amount of FoS's he has made with actual points. There is no reason given as to why he might think VA is scum whatsoever. Just after this post, he FoS'd Koshi/rayn again with this: On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. But still does not vote for him, nor attempt to further push him, preferring instead to keep his vote on VA. To sum up this last point: This vote on VA feels to me like a reactionary vote in fear of VA's cast ability. It is further scummy when read in comparison to the other people he has FoS'd with actual reasoning that he neglects. ##vote: yamato | ||
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On October 17 2013 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad is talking about Fruity and/or BangBang mafia. marv's comment was fruity iirc, but both of them were smurfs. Weird game, that one. skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly. VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case. ##Vote: VayneAuthority That was not the only point in the case, but I disagree, it comes off as "testing the waters" which is inherently scummy. I am also not under the impression that VA was trolling yam, I thought that the "Expelliarmus" was an ability of his. VA could you clarify, please? | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Because I'm more concerned about the toxic nature of town's on TL in general than my initial gutread on D1 of a closed theme game. I also was the one who asked skanj to take a break because he looked like he was digging himself into a scummier hole to me, and it felt too easy. Since coming back he's got a case on yamato, albeit one that I think is wrong. He still gets points for trying. @Skannj the hosts came in and gave a votecount, which included Yam's vote on VA. There has been no evidence that VA has done anything more than be a dick to Yamato and it has been completely unprovoked (as far as what I see in this thread). I count that as trolling, and I don't want it in my town. To your "testing the waters" comment, here is yamato's recent filter from noir. Read the first 2-3 pages of that and let me know how you feel please. If we are going flavourwise, I'd expect it to be a roleblock. After reading the first 3 pages I can see a noticeable difference in his play there than here. In that game he immediately started by making a list of reads and voting on someone who he thoughts was scum. He then later changed his vote again, but not before pressuring the person he had voted, while still discussing a lot in the thread. This game he shows a reluctance to vote and put pressure on his scumreads that he didn't show in that game. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:17 yamato77 wrote: I don't follow up on my suspicions? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Laughing at it doesn't make it not true, you have yet to follow up on any of the people you have pointed fingers at, instead choosing to target VA because you're "sick of him". | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote: Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point. I am your strongest scumread? You told me to cool off, because you thought I was getting overwhelmed and it seemed "too easy". This implies that you had a town read on me, obviously. You then give me additional "points" for the case I made. And now I am a scumread of yours? I'm sorry but I don't follow this faulty logic of yours, please explain. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote: I'm probably not going to wall of text when I need to drive discussion. It's more important to poke and prod and ask questions for me this game because in general, few people are doing that. If a lot of useful discussion was being created, I could sit back, but this is not the case. Anyway, I'm still watching the same people. I'd add an addendum that Hopeless being is active is unusual. Not sure what to make of it ATM. Could you not ignore the case I posted on you? I'm not just going to forget about it. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:37 yamato77 wrote: I addresses it already. Your suspicion is weak because my reads are clear and consistent. Me not voting for everyone I find noteworthy does not make me mafia. Me voting for a policy lynch on the worst player in the thread does not make me mafia. It's not worth talking about because it's not even remotely correct. You most certainly did not address it. I did not say you should vote for everyone you find. I did not say voting on a policy lynch makes you scum. I gave evidence that your reads are not clear and consistent. Do not attempt to strawman my points away, it will not work. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote: Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you. "Hey, maybe if I just ignore the case and insult him, he will stop attacking me" - #yamato2013 I mean you can refuse to answer it if you want, it will only result in you looking scummier and inevitably being lynched. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:45 Hopeless1der wrote: False: The implication of asking you to cool off is that I'm second guessing myself. It was still a scum read, but in the last game I played, I got too nitpicky and then tunneled a fellow townie rather unproductively. I'd rather lay off for a bit, cool off myself and see what you come back with. Your response to my request to read Yamato's filter looks like a tunneled townie who insists on being right, which is kind of what I expected. Well don't keep us in suspense....he's 3-headed Fluffy isnt he Oh, the response where I actually read his filter and see that it is different to this game? Sure buddy. | ||
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It should be edited to: "tunnelling townie who is closing in on scum". Thxbbz. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote: Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet? Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets. | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:57 Pandain wrote: I also don't like how he started to get the "dumb" response to Mocsta by saying "Are you kidding me". Responses like that indicate you feel threatened so you go after the other person On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote: Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you. Sup? Pandain, I get the feeling from your posts about yamato that you believe my case to be solely/mainly meta, this is not the case (ha pun) meta is a very very tiny factor, that wasn't even part of my original case on him. | ||
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Leans scum on palmar, says that he "could lynch him". Later backs down on this, and now in the QT says that he wants to sheep palmar's policy lynch on Mocsta and that even though he dislikes plynches, sheeping palmar's seems reasonable. A plynch that is agreed by the majority to be the correct play. I find it scummy that he would sheep his former scumread onto a policy lynch when he admits that he usually dislikes policylynches, and especially such a bad policy lynch.. On October 18 2013 14:11 Sn0_Man wrote: Not "hard" townreads. More like, No interest in lynching, and i'm lending value to what they say simply because all of them have well thought out posts. I'm considering them town/pro-town until evidence comes up. I dislike the phrase "until evidence comes up." It gives off a willingness to just sit back and wait for other people to scumhunt instead of showing an initiative to do it himself. He is also totes sheeping onto Cephiro and hasn't given any reasoning at all as to why he thinks Cephiro is scum. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:08 Sn0_Man wrote: I mentioned it because I'm not a huge fan of the other lynch options. Kinda decided against pushing for it because all my reasons would be "Well Palmar said so hope he's town this game". You're not a huge fan of the other lynch options, but you will sheep onto Cephiro anyway. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Ur ignoring the part where i give my reasons for backing down on suspicions re: palmar. And I discussed then rejected the "sheep palmar lynch mocsta" policy lynch. Whats your problem with that? Sure I'm sheeping the cephiro lynch. Hows that scummy? I didn't ignore that part, actually. You didn't discuss it, you ignored it until Mocsta questioned you on it. It is scummy because you have: (A) Already stated twice that you dislike any of the current lynch options. (B) Refuse to give any input of your own as to why Cephiro is scummy. Even previously you say "Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well". Also not offering any original insight. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:18 Sn0_Man wrote: I could also just not vote and get modkilled I'm sure thats a legit strategy... Or you could, I dont know, look for scum? Make cases? Push your targets? Not contradict yourself by following the majority onto a lynch that you expressed dislike in? Any of those would be great, you know. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote: False. I tossed it out there in the QT for opinions. Then I went to the thread, thought about stuff, and posted a list of lynches that soudned reasonable. Leaving out mocsta since he's got 0 votes and nobody in teh QT was discussing it with me (very short period of time here). THEN mocsta cried in the thread about the QT without even discussing anything in the QT itself, that was a wtf for me. I didn't ignore it I left it in the QT for discussion which eventually happened. You posted that you wanted to plynch Mocsta in the QT, then did not mention him at all thread. That is ignoring what you said in the QT. Obviously you posted about him in the QT initially, otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about him. I never like lynch options day 1 because nobody's flipped. So what happened to yamato? He's sheeping the same case with the same lack of reasons, why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason? There are also many far more egregious lurkers than me. You still lack any reasoning that makes me scum, you want to lynch me for laziness over your longstanding scumread yamato and over all the actual lurkers. What gives? Classic "why me?" scum defense. I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes you did otherwise why are you including it in your case rofl. If I say "well look this is a good counterargument to my and others suspicions of palmar" then hows it scummy for me to not think he's scum anymore? You can't just say "I didn't ignore it" and continute ignoring it. I said that palmar was a *former* scum option of yours. I didn't say you are scummy for changing your mind about palmar, I just said that I find the willingness to sheep him scummy. On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote: False. I tossed it out there in the QT for opinions. Then I went to the thread, thought about stuff, and posted a list of lynches that soudned reasonable. Leaving out mocsta since he's got 0 votes and nobody in teh QT was discussing it with me (very short period of time here). THEN mocsta cried in the thread about the QT without even discussing anything in the QT itself, that was a wtf for me. I didn't ignore it I left it in the QT for discussion which eventually happened. You posted that you wanted to plynch Mocsta in the QT, then did not mention him at all thread. That is ignoring what you said in the QT. Obviously you posted about him in the QT initially, otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about him. On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote: I never like lynch options day 1 because nobody's flipped. So what happened to yamato? He's sheeping the same case with the same lack of reasons, why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason? There are also many far more egregious lurkers than me. You still lack any reasoning that makes me scum, you want to lynch me for laziness over your longstanding scumread yamato and over all the actual lurkers. What gives? Classic "why me?" scum defense. I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:48 Mattchew wrote: Skanj is strange In what way? A way that makes you think I am scum? A way that makes you want to accost me in the alleyway later? Oh MattChew! | ||
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On October 19 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote: Dear supersoft. Please say what you mean to say. I don't read minds and can't figure out what your posts are implying. Dear Skanjab1s. Please stop tunnelling me for no reason. Also please stop misrepresenting me. I never said Cephiro isn't scum. If you can ever come up with anything scum motivated in my actions i'd love to hear it because so far all you can say is "well he hasn't caught scum yet". Which is incidentally true of every other player in the thread. I sure haven't caught scum, and I have no particular intention of doing so today. Mostly cuz I can't. Get back to me once you've done anything better. I have come up with scum motivations and I have explained my reasoning. Saying that I haven't doesn't make it true. I am not tunneling you for no reason, I have given my reasons. You said that you don't like any of the lynch choices, but then voted Cephiro. I did not say "well he hasn't caught scum yet" and I am not accusing you of being scum just because you haven't found scum yet. I think that covers all the misreps you made on me this single post. | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote: this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily this | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote: I still don't particularly "like" the Cephiro lynch. But I'm OK with it. Its uncommon for me to "like" day 1 lynches because as I've already stated nobody's flipped yet. Can you quote some "scummy" stuff for me then? You think its scummy that I lurked. *shrug*. There's lots of other lurkers. You think its scummy that I'm voting Cephiro. *shrug* theres lots of others voting Cephiro many with no more reason than I. You think its scummy that my defense boils down to "I'm not scummier than anybody else". *shrug* its true I'm not scummier than anybody else. Its hard to defend against accusations that don't imply scum. The best I can do is point out that half the thread is guilty of anything you can come up with against me and that I'm not scum. I can't find scum today and somehow thats not OK for me but its fine for your prime scumread yamato and at least 5 other people. Getting RNG tunnelled is off-putting. Just quit tunnelling its really obnoxious. lol I quoted scummy stuff in my case on you. tsktsktsk hedwig, you just strawmannin' all day. | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:14 LastArgument wrote: This post is remarkably scummy when you've been absent for the hours leading up to the lynch. Then you come back and berate the town, having done nothing to help it? Bad, bad, bad. Yeah I thought someone would point that out, oh well. I have a right to berate the town when we should have lynched sn0 today instead. | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:17 LastArgument wrote: No, because you did nothing to help the town arrive at a good lynch when you had the opportunity to. Actually I did, I tried to push a sn0 lynch for the entire time I was here, I just arrived at the thread about 5 minutes before the deadline and had to read 8 pages. | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote: Too bad that isnt' helping town arrive at a good lynch. Aww, but I expect you to say that honeybuns. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:04 Sn0_Man wrote: Because I've played with lazy half-troll Palmar Day 1 before and he was town. He's the kind of player who dies N1 as town anyway so if he lives and doesn't shape up then its like a free red-check. Why lynch now when we are getting a virtual cop-check for tomorrow? Nothing tells me Palmar has to be scum. I can definitely see it but for now I don't see a reason to lynch D1. What changed your mind after this that led you to vote palmar? | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:40 Sn0_Man wrote: Well you don't read the thread  Actually I can't blame you it was the last post on a page and the thread is zooming but thar it is. I wanted a stutters lynch but we had like 15 mins to make it happen and nobody joined me. Haven't figured out why, but nobody joined me. oh wow you were totally distancing yourself from a mislynch there . | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:55 Sn0_Man wrote: Well, he's discussing the miller claim a bit too. Not really much scumhunting tho but our QT is kinda boring that way. Me and Skanjab even get along in the QT somehow. Probably because he has a diff name there or something. Yeah, I don't feel like pushing you in the QT also. | ||
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On October 19 2013 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote: Something something Skanjab livin the double life obv scum lynch pls You are just a hole in my country, good sir, and I will not have you besmirch my name so! | ||
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On October 19 2013 06:35 Sn0_Man wrote: To paraphrase toad, he states that he could be killed if one of us (his housemates) claims a character name in thread and he wouldn't be happy about that. He later expounds that he has a voting restriction, that he considers his role anti town, and that he may die if he votes incorrectly based on afaik flavour role. And that me being female allows him to vote for me. Beyond that Skanjab once posted "all females are scum" BEFORE claiming female, an interesting comment in hindsight. That was a joke regarding you claiming female, and me thinking you are scum. bh 10/10 wud lol agin. | ||
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On October 19 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote: No he seems not. Stutters is no vigshot. Why not? | ||
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Who is LA's mason partner? | ||
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Are they modconf town partners, or did he not specify? | ||
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On October 20 2013 05:51 syllogism wrote: if someone is responsible for the deaths of pandain or ET, claiming that might be fine. I think this is a good idea. | ||
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On October 20 2013 07:22 Blazinghand wrote: "oh i accidentaly posted a pm in the thread, that's something that totally happens! looks like I accidently get towncred *blushes*" On October 20 2013 08:46 Blazinghand wrote: Jesus you have ONE birthday and people never let u live it down To kill BH is to kill the spirit of mafia. | ||
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On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote: @ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all. I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing. I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now. | ||
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On October 20 2013 19:08 Skanjab1s wrote: Holyflare who do you think the scum in Hufflepuff is? | ||
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On October 21 2013 04:10 Grackaroni wrote: Oh wow are we all killing BH. Let's get Yamato. but grak wut abwt da hufelpuf scum. y do u nt care 4 huflepufe grak? y u do dis grak | ||
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On October 21 2013 06:11 Hopeless1der wrote: I want ceph or stutters up for lynch today. Both have made promises of activity that remain unfulfilled. What about yamato! | ||
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On October 22 2013 04:59 StorrZerg wrote: Vote for Stutters imo Yeah ill vote for stutters, CRay looks like he will contribute mo' | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:11 You-Know-Who wrote: The Deathly Hallows have appeared. the fuuuuuuck. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:19 Grackaroni wrote: Just search Yamato in Skanjab1s' filter and tell me there is even a chance that he is not Mafia... So because I have been pushing for a lynch on a dude that you're pretty sure is scum, I'm scum? Yeah, I tried to unvote him at the end. 'Twas a mistake, I started to doubt myself. On October 22 2013 05:22 Grackaroni wrote: Like he was the only one pushing Yamato at the start and he still thought Yamato was scum until the end of the day. Townies like to be right, he wouldn't just switch off the person he thinks is mafia and made a case one day1 because CR might contribute. Plus there is the glaring contradictions. *backs off Yamato* Yamato's reaction to my case is acceptable. ---------> Yamato scum. All Yamato did was say "lolurcaseisshitushit" + Last second Ninja vote Total scum. I don't think yamato's reaction to my case was acceptable, if I said that I was being retarded. Totally not scum. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:38 Grackaroni wrote: What changed? You voted Stutters for this very reason did you not? Yeah, because CRay looked like he would be contributing more, whereas stutters would continue to do nothing. I was also kinda hoping that my crabb/goyle--> padma/pavarti theory was correct. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:45 Mattchew wrote: Mafia probably used the secret vote whether or not cr is scum... Either they delay his death or get a vig/lynch on a townie from the confusion and sketchiness The closeness of the lynch points more to CRay scum. It is pointless as scum to try last minute switch the lynch off of one townie and onto another. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:48 Mattchew wrote: Your assumption is exactly what scum would want with 2 townies up for lynch Good thing two townies weren't up for lynch, then. | ||
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On October 22 2013 05:51 Grackaroni wrote: I don't believe you. Show me the things Stutters was doing that were in your opinion scummier than what you posted on Yamato. In retrospect, the things Stutters was doing were not scummier than what I posted on Yamato, I do not even know why I switched, but alas these are the things that made me think Stutters was scum: On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote: Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town. Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently. > Coming out of nowhere with just "Ceph is not town, because his role". Not offering any further insight into his scum read on Ceph On October 22 2013 04:14 Stutters695 wrote: I really don't like how this is worded. Based off of this post and your next post after, you imply I'm intentionally coasting by on the minimum to avoid a modkill. Given your considerable experience with me, you should know that as town I don't do that. I am an infrequent poster but I make my thoughts known (which I feel I've done with Ceph). Yet you feel the need to justify lynching me by saying we can spare(I.e. waste) lynches. Covering your ass for when I flip exactly what I claimed? > Says that as town, he doesn't just coast by (which he was doing). Then says that he is an infrequent poster, but as town he makes his thoughts known. As I've just said, he wasn't making his thoughts known at all. On October 22 2013 04:37 Stutters695 wrote: CR: Read my summary of his actions in the Griff qt and it will make more sense. > Him telling someone to read the summary of Ceph's actions in the qt, but then someone else pointing out that there was no such summary, made me think that he was just saying it in thread to make it seem as if he was contributing, at least in his QT. Those were the things he posted that gave me scumfeels. | ||
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On October 22 2013 06:11 Grackaroni wrote: I don't believe a townie would really think that. You thought Stutters was trying to direct people to read a summary in the QT that he never wrote in order to appear contributing. Come on. You have to die. Then you're wrong. | ||
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On October 22 2013 06:10 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think Stutters was towny but this is weak. 1) Stutters said he thinks ceph is town very early. Before the thing about his role occured. 2) A Misunderstanding. He told CR to read the summary he made of Cephiros posts in the qt. As in Cephiro posts in qt -> Stutters summarizes those posts in thread. Yeah no shit its weak, stutters was town. | ||
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On October 22 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote: Honestly even if I'm somehow wrong I'm ok with that. I have never been more confident someone is scum than I am with you. That is incredibly disappointing because I don't even see how I am that scummy. | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:29 Blazinghand wrote: I actually am doing some thoughts on skan and the D2 vote that's making me think he's scum. he claims his hands were too slow, but I'm betting he PLANNED to swap after the deadline and not have his vote count, but got surprised by the secret vote and stutters actually flipped. If stutters were scum I'd say skan is scum 100%, but stutters flipped town so I'm still thinking it through. I'm gonna have some dinner and put together some more complete thoughts on what happened with the D2 lynch. (1) If I planned to swap after deadline, and yam/CR is scum, and the secret vote surprised me, then I'd be knowingly switching off flipped scum and onto town, which would only result in me looking scummy. (2) The secret vote wouldn't have surprised me if it is a scum ability, because I'd know that it was going to happen. (1re2) Last option, if I planned to swap after deadline, and yam/GR is scum, and the secret vote didnt surprise me, then I'd be knowingly switching off flipped town onto flipped town, which would only result in me looking scummy. Now how would any plan related to me planning to swap votes after deadline be a scum move? Naysayers with yo' naysayin' | ||
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On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: Skanjab1s Skanjab1s writes a case on Yamato and pushes him in the thread early day1. Eventually Yamato disappears off his radar. When questioned by Sn0 Man, "why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason?" He says that Yamato's reaction to the case was satisfactory meaning he no longer had a scum read on him or wanted to lynch him. As I've stated, yamato's reaction was not satisfactory, I assume that the reason I said it was is because I was focusing on pushing Sno_man and didn't want to get pulled off track. On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: Final reasoning for vote switch is terrible. He had actual reasons to believe Yamato was scummy and they were much better than his reasons to lynch stutters. Skanjab1s didn't even mention Stutters before his last minute switch. Also his reasoning directly contradicts what he said earlier. he was very confident in Yamato being scum and I don't think he could have been as confident in his read on stutters based on the reasoning he put out. For these points, you assume that if I am town I would play in a perfect pro-town way, which is just not the case. It was a mistake to change the vote from my long standing scumread yamato, to stutters, but that is what I did. While it was not the optimal/logical play, it doesn't make me scum, just town with a lapse in judgement. On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: Beyond all of that other reasoning I don't believe for one second that him showing up in the thread in the last minute was mere happenstance. He wanted Stutters to be lynched but he didn't want to risk losing the town cred from pushing Yamato so he waited it out without posting thoughts in thread that may look bad on him later. I can see the secret vote and him voting doesn't exactly line up but these situations can be very chaotic and scum teams don't have perfect organization. Like I said, I was reading the thread for the hour before, and only finished very close to the deadline. You even say that the secret vote + my after-deadline vote doesn't add up, but still try to reach for an explanation that would make me scum. Surely my scumteam would have mentioned that they were going to use a secret vote? I highly doubt that if I were scum I would be taken by surprise by it, it wouldn't have had to be perfectly organized either, I'd just have to look at the 6-6 tie and know that stutters would be lynched. Also, although this is no consolidation at all, for future reference perhaps, as scum I'm a bit more selfish, I wouldn't jeopardize myself to save a teammate. | ||
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(2) You are not reading. As I have repeated multiple times, I only finished reading the thread very close to the deadline. I wasn't sitting around doing nothing. Just because I hadn't mentioned Stutters doesn't mean that I didn't find him scummy. (3) Now you're just making up a fake scenario and saying I'm scum because the fake scenario dictates it. | ||
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On October 22 2013 12:55 Mocsta wrote: Skanjab Did u find grackwron case to be a genuine effort? Yeah, I do, it doesn't come off as scum trying to push for a mislynch. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:02 Grackaroni wrote: There is a lot of scum motivation for you to stay out of the thread. If you come in beforehand and say you want to switch to stutters and Yamato is lynched you lose all of the town cred you could have gotten. If you you post beforehand that you still think Yamato is scum and continue to push Yamato then you increase the chance of losing Yamato. The point on me not being in the thread is a matter of perspective, really. You see it as me purposely staying out, whereas it is actually me only finishing reading the thread close to deadline. There is not much that I can say to change your mind on this. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:15 Grackaroni wrote: What can i say. It's hard for me to believe that you just happened to make a mistake where you vote Stutters with bad reasoning. (CR could be useful) - already contradicted earlier in filter. And that you just happened to show up at the end of the lynch and that your stance on the player you tried to move the lynch off of switches back and forth based on your interpretation of the same information. And when you give your reasoning for Stutters being as strong of a scum read as Yamato it's self-admittedly weak and it's clear you didn't even read through his filter/misinterpreted his posts. (1) The reasoning wasn't CR could be useful, it was that CR looked as though he was going to do something, whereas stutters was doing nothing at all, and showed no sign that he would start doing anything. (2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them. (3) My stance on yamato doesn't switch back and forth, I think he is scum, why I stated that he reacted fine to my case I have already explained, although I think it was silly to say that. (4) Yeah, I did not read through Stutters' filter, I didn't have time. The reasoning of Stutter's being as strong a scumread as yamato is self-admittedly weak in hindsight. At the time I did not think that was the case. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:21 Mocsta wrote: I just reread slytherin qt. After lastargument died. Skanjab instantly wondered if anyone thought stutters could be scum even though he was masoned to marv. Bh instantly replies. Role != allignment Point is. Did skanjab do anything to flesh out this read? I'm on phone so it's hard to check filter. No I didn't pursue it, I thought it could be likely given that crabb and goyle were different alignments, but there was no way to find out anyway. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:37 Mocsta wrote: What does crab have to do with anything. That's toad et. This is bullshit now. U immediately suspected stutters of being scum regardless of being masoned with lastargument. And now self admit to doing nothing to develop this read. Then u end up voting him.... Ok. Sno agreed that stutters isn't instant town, but he's done more in the thread to develop his read than u. Err, I don't see what you aren't getting. Crabb and Goyle are two different alignments, but flavourwise they are bestbuds. Thats why I thought that there was a possibility that Padma and Pavarti were two different alignments. It had nothing to do with my read on Stutters, it had to do with setup speculation. There was no point in pursuing it because there is no way to know if the setup speculation is correct or not. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I have a problem. Why is Grackaroni saying to multiple people that they "tried to move the lynch from yamato/CR to Stutters"? That's a fucking misrepresentation. Although this is weird: Why was this a bad move? Do you think it's the absolute trith CR is scum? In case he is not, why was it a mistake to lynch Stutters over him? -rayn Yeah I think CR is scum, I've had the scumread on yamato for a long time, and with the closeness of the lynch (and the quick vote changes to Stutters) it makes it very likely in my opinion. If he somehow isn't scum, then it was still a mistake in my decision making to lynch Stutters over a dude who I had read as scum for the whole game. | ||
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On October 22 2013 13:37 Grackaroni wrote: 1) I don't really see what is different. 2) when you have a strong scumread on somebody the whole game and then switch your mind in the last minute without even reading through stutters' filter just based on the fact that CR might do something then I get the impression you are trying to move the lynch off Yamato. 3) I can't see town act the way you did to that question. If someone asks me what happened to someone I think is scum and I dont want to get sidetracked then I say that I think he is mafia too but I want to focus on Sn0 Man. I don't lie about feeling good about Yamato's responses in order to avoid getting sidetracked. I like this numbering system (1) I didn't not vote him because he could have been strong for town or anything, I chose not to vote him because he wasn't being useless. Its not that he could make a nice impact for town, but rather that he would not contribute nothing at all. I can't really explain this any better. (3) Yeah, I have no idea why I said that, I really can't remember, what I've said are just assumptions. I'm quite baffled to be honest. | ||
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On October 22 2013 09:42 Skanjab1s wrote: (1) If I planned to swap after deadline, and yam/CR is scum, and the secret vote surprised me, then I'd be knowingly switching off flipped scum and onto town, which would only result in me looking scummy. (2) The secret vote wouldn't have surprised me if it is a scum ability, because I'd know that it was going to happen. (1re2) Last option, if I planned to swap after deadline, and yam/GR is scum, and the secret vote didnt surprise me, then I'd be knowingly switching off scum onto flipped town, which would only result in me looking scummy. Now how would any plan related to me planning to swap votes after deadline be a scum move? Naysayers with yo' naysayin' | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:05 Blazinghand wrote: yeah see i feel like 120 seconds before the deadline any person, ANY player would just like read the vote count if they were contemplating swapping votes. I really don't buy this story at all ? I never claimed to not read the vote count. They were periodically posted throughout the thread, I literally could not have missed them. | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:08 Blazinghand wrote: It could have been skanjab who cast the secret vote. I don't know why everyone is buying his "oh I just HAPPENED to finish reading the thread exactly at the deadline" story Lul, nobody is buying that story, even though its the truth. | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:09 Blazinghand wrote: What I'm saying is that your so-called "story" can't be true because anyone who really cared about the lynch would just click on the votecount thread and see the most recent votecount when they realized the deadline was approaching. Did you REALLY not realize the deadline was at hand? Is that the story you're going with? Okay, what the fuck are you even saying? (1) I knew what the votecount was (2) I never said I didn't know the votecount (3) I knew when the deadline was (4) I just said in the past post that I knew when the deadline was. (5) Can you please read the damn thread? (6) Thank you. | ||
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I don't know why you keep trying to convince me that I'm saying these things that I have never even mentioned. | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:13 Blazinghand wrote: You said you know when the deadline was, but you also posted a vote after the deadline. How does that compute? Clearly there is a lie. Either 1) you didn't know when the deadline was or 2) your vote was not cast in good faith which is it? I knew when the deadline was, after I had finished reading the thread a had a few minutes to think. I thought. I went to post my change of vote. It was too late. | ||
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On October 22 2013 14:17 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty much telling those 6 people to claim their powers to be honest. Rather wait until its daytime, ye? | ||
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On October 23 2013 02:16 Grackaroni wrote: I can't guarantee it, that's just my opinion. I can assure you I didn't just forget there was a redcheck on hufflepuff. So do you think there is a miller in hufflepuff too, then? The only other possibility is that you believe storr is town, but also lying about his cop check? | ||
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##Vote Chairman Ray Thoughts on a massclaim in the future? | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:10 Holyflare wrote: clearly bringing it up now in order to push it............................... Seems more like asking someone else to push it | ||
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On October 23 2013 06:14 Holyflare wrote: I could totally just leave it and then it would be buried, stfu Or like, push it. | ||
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On October 24 2013 21:13 Cephiro wrote: .... We're in the third day of the game. Could you explain me how I could've rolechecked more than that? As for my breadcrumb about mattchew (Susan Bones)... The national flower of Finland is Lily of the Valley. Susan means Lily in Hebrew. I knew Mocsta was Draco because he said he's basically the town equivalent of Pandain, not too hard to figure out. If he even is town, that is. My full role has already been claimed, although in parts. I'm Hermione Granger. I have 6 charmed coins that I may give out at any point in the game. (Which I all have.) I may send a secret message to the players who are in possession of a coin once a day. I also have one initial copcheck (rolename and alignment). For each 2 players that die, I gain a new check. (First night three coin owners died -> I got a new check) That means I have 0.5 checks now -> I cannot action N3, I still haven't used my message for D3. If I am to be lynched today, you're lynching into gryffindor in the order rayko -> JAT. Stop once scum is hit, and if not, lynch all. Then you're going to lynch into hufflepuff until scum is hit. Holy -> Hope -> Grack is my preferred order. After that, Mocsta -> Onegu -> skanjab1s -> CH Ray If you for some reason deviate then wtf. Also Mocsta, what promises have I not kept upon? Why is CR the last person you would want to lynch? Yeah im back bitches. | ||
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On October 24 2013 23:02 Cephiro wrote: Scum should be in: Chairman Ray [Nothing to speak for him tbh], Onegu [No claim, no anything], Holyflare [Secret vote shenanigans], skanjab1s [hasn't played too well, PoE, nothing to make him look like town], 3 scum in 4 people, best I can give. Should be correct also. Gogo. Uhh, what about the gryffrscum? | ||
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On October 24 2013 23:17 Cephiro wrote: JAT is an un-CCed vig. Rayko can't be scum for pushing me this hard, because if he was scum, he would know I am not a cop. If he was scum, he would also be the one lynched right after me for pushing me this hard since I have no check on him to prove that he is town. How do you propose that matt got a red check then? | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:12 Grackaroni wrote: who voted first for the 1 votes? was it me? If I killed you and you flip scum with 1 vote that is too epic of a possibility for me to turn down. Nah 'twas me first, muahahahaaha. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:16 Chairman Ray wrote: In TL Noir, I recall that LM managed to vote himself. I'll put the vote back on u if hosts say that I can't do this. Hopefully with yours and my vote, this will be enough if there needs to be a switch It says in the OP that you can't vote yourself. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:23 Skanjab1s wrote: Why mocsta? You haven't mentioned him as being scummy at all since now Hey man this | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:44 Holyflare wrote: Also, because skanjabs won the house event last time you have a polyjuice potion, do not forget to use that. Yeah don't worry we've been discussing it, being the best little house we can be. | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote: Who else would I vote? Firmtofu? Theres 3 scum still alive Chairman, dafuq! | ||
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Make a case on the peeps you think are scummy, dont just switch votes buddy. It is rather scummy to just remove your vote as soon as you get questioned on it. | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:11 Chairman Ray wrote: We're right before the deadline and the vote is almost unanimously on Cephiro. My vote doesn't do anything at this point, and it's pretty clear that I'm not even voting seriously. I started off voting myself, and then swapping to a confirmed town, and then swapping to you, all without any explanation. You're putting way too much emphasis on my trollvoting and I'm starting to think that you are mafia trying to ensure my lynch on the next day. So if Cephiro flips scum, I'm not gonna martyr myself anymore, because I think we're bound to get at least one scum if we lynch you, and then holy (who also didn't like my trollvoting). Of course I'm trying to secure your lynch for the next day, I have been saying you are scum this entire game. Your lack of caring is indicative of defeated scum. If you care about helping town lynch scum you should stop your martyr stuff and make cases on who you think is scum, like I'm trying to get you to do. | ||
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On October 25 2013 06:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says. It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab. htf can I be scum with CR? | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote: Where is the problem? You wanted to kill stutters over him. But I wanna kill him guuurl | ||
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Do you want to test me tomorrow ^_^? | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:07 justanothertownie wrote: As soon as he really was in danger of being lynched your scumread on him kinda vanished only to appear again later. Also this is factually inaccurate. | ||
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On October 25 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote: Skanjab filter I searched his filter for cases and Skanjab effectively has 1 case (on Yamato day 1). Later on, he swaps to Sn0 with some reasoning, but it is far from a case. Thats pretty much all he has done. I thought this was a good case Day1 (maybe i was biased, because I asked him for thoughts on Yamato in the QT which led to this case I 'spose). This is terrible. He drops the well-detailed yamato case for this crap; where is jsut nitpicking bad play as opposed to scummy play. He doesn't detail why this is scum mindset either. Seriously... is this sequence of posts going to actually result in a lynch of the target? Considering the brevity of his former case on yamato; his current actions are not congruent. Reads as distancing to me. Again.. why would this receive traction? This is all his votes as detailed in the thread. Guy has done nothing all game aside from bussing yamato. And has then never pushed it. Conversely; this makes Grack town for this post: Unfortunately, at the time; it was written with too much personal opinion as opposed to fact/logic so it did not receive the respect it deserved. The crux of his case is how skanjab didn't follow through with his case on yamato. The points here re-enforce all the reasons why I think Skanjab is scum distancing yamato/chairman_ray LYNCH WITH FIRE !!! The only point in that case is that I have been "bussing" yamato, but not following through. Which is just wrong. I have been pushing for the lynch of this scum for the whole game, not for "towncred" but to kill scum. You say I have been distancing, which is simply silly, given the amount that I have pushed him this game. There is no distancing whatsoever. You even say that my pushing hopeless for thoughts on yamato, is distancing. It is the exact opposite of distancing. As for me not following through with the case on yamato - it is practically all I have spoken about, and I've had my vote on him at the end of every day. I am a giant rolling boulder of follow-through. | ||
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On October 25 2013 11:43 Grackaroni wrote: lol Skan which case is better. Mine or Mocsta's!? Only you can settle this... Yours is much better. | ||
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On October 25 2013 11:43 Mocsta wrote: My case details the extent of your pushing You clearly jumped to the summary and avoided the meat and potatoes. Well done skanjab No, that was really the whole case. Also a part about me making a case on snoman, as if pressuring my scumreads is a bad thing. | ||
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And almost all of it is discussion on the game, hardly any spam. | ||
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Yeah, well done, brilliant stuff. Ill give my scumreads when Im good and ready. | ||
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On October 25 2013 22:11 Mocsta wrote: Seriously syllo... As an addendum Rayn is unlikely kill (as hes got the red check) So its a shot on either Grack or Onegu As an aside, Skanjab refuses to claim even in the QT, yet he thinks everyone is town...go figure. Lol at you making that seem scummy. | ||
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Surprise Surprise ##24 hour day | ||
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On October 26 2013 08:21 Holyflare wrote:I have looked into other people and I noticed skanjabs having lots of inconsistencies and also being very dismissive of other peoples poimts raised not only against him but against some other people (scum) . (1) Obviously I am dismissive of points raised against me. This isn't a reason for being scum, its a reason for being logical. (2) Please quote examples of where I have dismissed points against scum. | ||
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On October 26 2013 09:50 Grackaroni wrote: Can you throw out a guess for the scum team Skan? CR and Holyflare, then the last dude I just don't know. Occam's razor suggests its a dude from gryffindor, and I don't think that anyone in my house is scum, but rayn doesn't seem like scum to me at all, and JAT has his lonemeow shot. Yeah I have no idea who the last one could be :/. | ||
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On October 28 2013 05:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Can you guys just burn it today on someone like Syllo? To be sure it is never going to be used. -rayn But then any chance of it being used to help me is destroyed. | ||
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On October 28 2013 13:56 Onegu wrote: Mocata there is no way HF is town, go to day 2 and onward. Ok lynch me confirm a framer. Then lynch HF as he is almost confirmed scum at this point. If this turns out to be a serious scumslip im going to shit my pants with laughter | ||
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On October 28 2013 15:15 syllogism wrote: Who did Slytherin use the polyjuice on? Nobody, yet. | ||
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Nah I'm not going to claim this game. | ||
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On October 30 2013 15:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote: - Skanjabs asking their QT about if there are 1 scum in each house. Question is too dumb to be scum. FirmTofu answers him (rofl). Dick move analysis says he is town. - Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that. - Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town. - He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game. - Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato. - This is an odd post: On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people? - Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts): On D2 however: - Weird voting on D2. - Contradicts himself again on yamato - Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit. I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then. Half of this case is just saying that I am town, rofl. (1) Toad stated that he was a lover, and that if he died then his partner would die. Thats how I knew. He said it. The other point about contradicting myself is valid, yeah I did that. | ||
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On October 30 2013 15:59 syllogism wrote: Yes we are lynching him after Holyflare flips. He didn't even bother answering my questions. What questions? | ||
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On October 30 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote: I have several problems with this. Firstly, "Better but there is another flip that if I saw I would give him a scum read. Talk about it after the resolution period. But unless both thos people flip tonight Im not interested in lynching him now." We know Yam is town; so in essence he is stating that Skanjab becomes town. How does this even make sense? Theres no reasoning behind this, and in my opinion Yam being town makes Skanjab look scummier as this is his only contribution (other than a case on Sn0 It makes me town because its silly for scum to try to switch off of one town that they have been tunneling onto another town that they didn't mention all that much. but then WIFOM, of course. | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:43 Holyflare wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Skanjab1s The anti wagon of justice! Aww, what about our beloved Onegu! | ||
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On October 31 2013 04:58 Skanjab1s wrote: Hey guys there is 1 minute 30 seconds left, lets not lynch holyflare, he town. Totally secured holyflare as mafia, you're welcome. | ||
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You make it sound as if squibbing me will somehow confirm me as town. Also that last sentence is incorrect. | ||
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On October 31 2013 05:30 justanothertownie wrote: If you are so powerful - how come nothing of your power has been seen as of yet? Hasn't it? | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote: The answer I was looking for was that it says your case is bad. Half of the case said that I am town, so yeah, as a case against someone you think is scum, it was pretty bad. | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: And you don't seem to be understanding what i am trying to say. I was looking through your filter and i (1) explained why i had a townread on you on D1 and (2) why you are extremely scummy after that. It's not that hard, it can't be. I am extremely scummy because I said that yamato is town that one time while I was trying to push Sno. That happened a really long time ago, yet you have been calling me town since way after that. Why is it only relevant now? | ||
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On October 31 2013 07:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Because i was literally not here on D2 and have not read your filter/posts after that. On D3 i thought Cephiro was scum so i didn't care. On D4 i thought Grack/CR is scum so i didn't care. Now i do care. Your reasoning right there pretty much exactly describes the whole yamato thing you are calling me scum for. | ||
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I like how you say "now he's claiming it was a joke", when I actually said it was a joke right after i posted it. | ||
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Is this a world identical to the original except everyone has suddenly been affected with a vicious brain-eating parasite? | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:08 Mocsta wrote: BH has been squibbed. Basically what happened was. Skanjab voted Onegu BH then voted Skanjab Hosts pull up a vote count, and state that my vote on BH from previous cycle (48 hrs ago) was still in play (and i was asleep). Skanjab then votes BH to form a majority. Then Skanjab posts that it was a joke blah blah. Short story is, BH is squibbed this cycle. Skanjab Voted Onegu BH Voted Skanjab Skanjab votes BH (with the phrase haha you wont get me, then immediately says it is a joke. BH and Mocsta try to make it seem as if Skanjab is scummy for this, by misstating what actually happened in the thread and by making a big deal out of BH being squibbed (which he wasn't going to be) Skanjab tells hosts that he is not joking, and that they must count his vote on BH. If you want to be incredibly scummy and try to push a mislynch on me by misstating what I said in the QT and twisting it to be scummy, then you, as claimed scum, deserve to be squibbed. | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:18 justanothertownie wrote: Wait. So you just have to accuse scum to get them to claim? Really that easy? Theres a difference between accusing someone of being scum, and twisting someones words when nobody can see the original words so that the person looks scummy. | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:27 Grackaroni wrote: You are so dead Skanjab1s. You think BH is scum and then you squib him out of spite effectively giving him no reason not to kill off syllo. He already has a reason not to kill syllo, he didn't protect Snoman did he? | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:24 justanothertownie wrote: Well were did they twist your words? I don't care if you said it was a joke if the vote counts. It was an obvious joke, and I said to the hosts right afterwards: dont count that, it was a joke. The vote wasn't going to count at all, but then bh decided to twist it by saying things like, "Omg im a squib, skanjab squibbed me (even though I had said it wasnt a real vote directly after I posted it, and then says: "NOW he says its a joke". As if I meant to squib him, but then after getting called out I decided to play it off as a joke, which is not the case at all. | ||
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hey Mocsta, paraphrasing doesn't mean "hurr let me make skanjab call bh a fag so that he looks like a shithead" That pile of shit is not accurate at all, and you intentionally cast me in a bad light. | ||
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Here is an example, Mocsta wrote "noone cares about you BH" When I said: "It doesn't matter ("it" being whether or not Mocsta's vote counted or not) - It didn't matter because my vote wasn't going to be counted anyway. You just try to make me look like a scummy asshole for no reason. If you cant think of good enough reasons for me to be scum don't twist the shit I say when the people in the thread can't see it. | ||
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Besides, theres a red check on Onegu. | ||
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On October 31 2013 11:20 Mocsta wrote: So u think his points on onegu are all legitimate? Because it's very easy for scum to make scum cases on each other. I can't remember what his points on Onegu are. | ||
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On October 31 2013 11:28 Mocsta wrote: Yet u r associating onegu as scum via holyflare..... Not a good sign skab Actually, I'm associating Onegu as scum via redcheck. You are the one talking about his relevance to holyflare. | ||
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For anyone voting for me, dont be silly, I squibbed scum! | ||
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On November 01 2013 07:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If you are not scum you will roleclaim right now because if you don't you'll get 100% lynched. That sentence is factually inaccurate because I'm not roleclaiming and I'm not scum. | ||
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Should perhaps look at the dude who is trying to take credit for finding all the scum without actually doing anything (hint: Onegu) On November 01 2013 05:21 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE SKANJAB1S You can thank me later for catching 4/6 scum later | ||
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On October 31 2013 14:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I don't care because if a mafia guy says something about someone else (or doesn't say) it doesn't tell anything about their alignment. *sigh* It's pretty basic stuff. | ||
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On November 01 2013 17:16 syllogism wrote: Hmm The first and last quote are also "testing the waters" posts to see if a mislynch can be attempted on me. | ||
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On November 01 2013 17:32 syllogism wrote: Skanjab would you like to explain why you were against squibbing HF on the basis that squibbing him wouldn't "lower mafia KP" even though you clearly must understand that mafia has factional KP and it was extremely unlikely that they had additional roles with KP, considering they had lost 2 on N1 and there had been deathless night at the time of your assertion? Are you serious? I was against squibbing him because it would be a waste of a squib. His power is a secret vote, which he would be forced to use in town's favour. Because KP is factional, the squib will not block it, It is therefore much more useful to use it on absolutely anybody else that I think could be mafia. (And y'know, that's exactly what happened, I used it on mafia with a power). | ||
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Secondly, him having a vote and another power is just highly unlikely, and so why would I want to waste a squib on a guy that (1) Has a claimed role that would be a waste of a squib (2) Might not have even been mafia? Instead of just using it on someone else? Its nonsensical. Thirdly, it wasnt near lylo at the time, iirc. | ||
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No way lynching those two before me can be justified? How about Onegu has a redcheck on him, when a framer could not have known to frame into his house (because matt+storr bluffed about checking gryffindor or slytherin)? I cant believe I have to actually explain this whole thing to you, but for some reason you seem to be under the impression that we knew that Holyflare was scum, and with that knowledge, chose not to squib him. That is not the case, as none of us were certain on holyflare being scum anyways. So we can either squib a dude who we THINK could be scum, but who has claimed a power that doesn't need to be squibbed (but who MIGHT have another power, because y'know, lets just fucking speculate), or we could be sensible and squib someone who we think is scum who has a power worth squibbing. Which is what I did. I really do not know how you can not understand this, or why you think this makes me scummy in any way. Also, you didn't elaborate on the first point. | ||
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On November 01 2013 18:41 syllogism wrote: I don't have to and will not have this conversation with you - this is the last time I address you directly in the game. The way you could have actually demonstrated your alignment would have been by putting in even nominal effort since day 1, which you did not. You could have chosen to cooperate with town by claiming and subjecting yourself to squibbing, which you did not. This is especially baffling because at one point you seemed to be advocating a mass claim. If you are town, you are the most anti-town townie in the game after Cephiro, but at least Cephiro put in a lot of effort in the end. Feel free to make a case against Onegu or Grack or whoever. Be sure to explain why HF was trying to tie Onegu with BH and trying to get Onegu lynched first, even though he was essentially treating BH as confirmed mafia. Why not push you instead? HF was not in any danger of being lynched at the time. Where did the KP go on the night when Onegu claimed a hit? Was BH sent to perform the kill twice, even though no one was clearly going to RB Onegu and probably not HF? So instead of actually arguing the points that you think I am scum for, you are going to sulk away and ignore me, because I actually point out that the points are idiotic? Right, good job there. I did make effort day 1, go read back maybe, you haven't been putting any effort into this game recently, either. Hostile attitude does not equal scum, you should know this, I find it highly frustrating that a confirmed town has to try to make up random points against me because he wants to lynch me but doesn't have actual reasons for me being scum. Stop asking me stupid questions that you know I don't have the answer to, too, its annoying. Now run along and cry, you still don't explain the points that I ask you to because you know that they dont make sense and you just hope i'll be lynched without people paying attention to them. Try harder. | ||
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On November 02 2013 05:01 syllogism wrote: Not entirely shocked, but it's sad to see another townie who refuses to cooperate with town I cooperated fantastically with town, it is you who fails to see reason. Skanjab1s out! Kill the scums! Avenge me! <Insert more motivational posts because I am drunk as fuuuuuck and cant think of any!> | ||
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On November 03 2013 04:59 EchelonTee wrote: Why didn't you roleclaim Skan? That seemed pretty bad, but it didn't matter in the end. Like 80% of that was just for fun, the other 20% was because if I had roleclaimed VT, I'd have been instantly lynched anyway. | ||
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On November 03 2013 10:48 Onegu wrote: I have played in 11 TL mafia games now includeing ##, I have rolled scum in 6 of them. I have played 2, and you have rolled scum in both of them :D | ||
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