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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 20 2013 13:23 GMT
#1841
Hmmm.
Well they can fight it out themselves.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 14:36 GMT
#1842
How did house hufflepuff come to the conclusion Matt and Storr are town? Because of the filters of flipped scum or are there other reasons? I think there is no reason to disbelieve the cop claim (he hinted at it pretty obviously in thread) but it would be a good scumplay - we might waste several cycles to lynch the scum in hufflepuff if Storr was mafia.
Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 14:37 GMT
#1843
On October 20 2013 13:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
We could also lynch losers like onegu and stutters who won't post...

Tho i wish cephiro wouldn't go back to "lol posting is for noobs" that almost got him lynched yesterday. Is he in the QT at all?

Cephiro did post 2-3 times directly after the lynch promising to improve and didn't come back ever since.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#1844
On October 20 2013 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
How did house hufflepuff come to the conclusion Matt and Storr are town? Because of the filters of flipped scum or are there other reasons? I think there is no reason to disbelieve the cop claim (he hinted at it pretty obviously in thread) but it would be a good scumplay - we might waste several cycles to lynch the scum in hufflepuff if Storr was mafia.
Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless?

Hopeless has seemed quite confident and today volunteered three town reads on players many considered potential lynch targets (mattchew, storr, vayne).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 14:45 GMT
#1845
Oh sorry, he did. Said he was happy about the 3 dead scum but that's all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 14:47 GMT
#1846
On October 20 2013 23:44 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
How did house hufflepuff come to the conclusion Matt and Storr are town? Because of the filters of flipped scum or are there other reasons? I think there is no reason to disbelieve the cop claim (he hinted at it pretty obviously in thread) but it would be a good scumplay - we might waste several cycles to lynch the scum in hufflepuff if Storr was mafia.
Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless?

Hopeless has seemed quite confident and today volunteered three town reads on players many considered potential lynch targets (mattchew, storr, vayne).

Ok. But if Storr and Matt were already called town in their qt it isn't all that impressive. Vayne is no lynch target anyways.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 20 2013 14:58 GMT
#1847
On October 20 2013 23:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 23:44 syllogism wrote:
On October 20 2013 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
How did house hufflepuff come to the conclusion Matt and Storr are town? Because of the filters of flipped scum or are there other reasons? I think there is no reason to disbelieve the cop claim (he hinted at it pretty obviously in thread) but it would be a good scumplay - we might waste several cycles to lynch the scum in hufflepuff if Storr was mafia.
Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless?

Hopeless has seemed quite confident and today volunteered three town reads on players many considered potential lynch targets (mattchew, storr, vayne).

Ok. But if Storr and Matt were already called town in their qt it isn't all that impressive. Vayne is no lynch target anyways.


He was leaning on holy after the claim

Prior to the claim he had holy as town cause holy was scum hunting
and he had grack as weird.\


before claim
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=88#1746



Then his reaction asap after claim to town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=88#1748


there is also this post regarding holy and hopeless
On October 20 2013 13:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 13:33 Holyflare wrote:
We already pretty much declared storr and matt town before this whole situation in the QT by the way.

This is true. I still think Pandain's filter supports the conclusion quite strongly.




Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 20 2013 15:18 GMT
#1848
Why does it feel that Sn0_Man has gone dark again?

Sn0_man do i have to call arms to pressure you to get you to post?
same with
Cephiro
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 15:35 GMT
#1849
On October 20 2013 23:58 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 23:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 23:44 syllogism wrote:
On October 20 2013 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
How did house hufflepuff come to the conclusion Matt and Storr are town? Because of the filters of flipped scum or are there other reasons? I think there is no reason to disbelieve the cop claim (he hinted at it pretty obviously in thread) but it would be a good scumplay - we might waste several cycles to lynch the scum in hufflepuff if Storr was mafia.
Syllo, why does hopeless look better than holyflare? Is it just that you think Holy looks really bad or is there something redeeming about hopeless?

Hopeless has seemed quite confident and today volunteered three town reads on players many considered potential lynch targets (mattchew, storr, vayne).

Ok. But if Storr and Matt were already called town in their qt it isn't all that impressive. Vayne is no lynch target anyways.


He was leaning on holy after the claim

Prior to the claim he had holy as town cause holy was scum hunting
and he had grack as weird.\


before claim
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=88#1746



Then his reaction asap after claim to town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=88#1748


there is also this post regarding holy and hopeless
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 13:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2013 13:33 Holyflare wrote:
We already pretty much declared storr and matt town before this whole situation in the QT by the way.

This is true. I still think Pandain's filter supports the conclusion quite strongly.





I have no idea how this makes hopeless town to be honest. I would love to hear the reasoning for grack being town btw. People give him way to much credit for trolling. What has Grack done besides that warrants a town read?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 20 2013 15:37 GMT
#1850
Not saying it does, just pointing it out.
Grack is grack idk all of my read on him is ambiguous, literally has just been his tone for his posts in the QT
After the claim, he seems to be taking things more serious and turning things up a notch in the thread
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 20 2013 15:43 GMT
#1851
Hopeless' reaction to the cop check was to attempt to find mafia in his house. Holyfire's reaction was to vote for two people not in the house.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 15:48 GMT
#1852
On October 21 2013 00:43 syllogism wrote:
Hopeless' reaction to the cop check was to attempt to find mafia in his house. Holyfire's reaction was to vote for two people not in the house.

This is much more convincing. Thanks. I will have a closer look at Holy.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 20 2013 16:27 GMT
#1853
Why does no one want to take credit for shooting a mafia?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#1854
On October 21 2013 01:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Why does no one want to take credit for shooting a mafia?

There is no reason to claim.

I am thinking somebody might have had a dual gun. Like you need to target 2 of the same alignements for it to go off. I just cant believe there were so many vigis. And then there was a scum vigi.

If this is true there is no SK and we can trow a party next night with only one kill. It's 14
vs 3 atm with a confirmed town and a lot of townreads. Party on!
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 20 2013 16:48 GMT
#1855
On October 21 2013 01:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 01:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Why does no one want to take credit for shooting a mafia?

There is no reason to claim.

I am thinking somebody might have had a dual gun. Like you need to target 2 of the same alignements for it to go off. I just cant believe there were so many vigis. And then there was a scum vigi.

If this is true there is no SK and we can trow a party next night with only one kill. It's 14
vs 3 atm with a confirmed town and a lot of townreads. Party on!

At least the KP in the flipped scum (ET and Pandain) are already enough for a kill. So maybe there actually were 3 kills by scum but I really don't understand why they would shoot toad. This is really stupid - I mean ET kinda knew his lover was in his house and Toad was the obvious candidate.
Pandain looks very much like a SK shot.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 20 2013 16:58 GMT
#1856
Pandain is quite the crazy shot. There is not really a reason for the SK to shoot him. Unless because Pandain was on to him or to overlap shots. Also as SK you want to play protown and shoot scums because town tends to perform horribly. So putting them on the right track is better than kill one of the town leaders. Pandain was kinda being really active. I think the SK might be in our house. It was rayn saying before deadline Pandain might be scum. Dont know if other houses were on to him.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 20 2013 17:02 GMT
#1857
we toyed with the idea of a PGO being the reason for Pandain and ET dieing, and therefore Toad. Lonemeow looks like a vig. SS and LA are normal targets for mafia kp.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 20 2013 17:05 GMT
#1858
I've some theories regarding how they may have died, but I don't think they are worth making public. Personally I don't find it likely that there is a SK, because neither mafia or town win cons suggest anything like that and because the cop role appears to only reveal mafia (Storr can confirm whether this is the case).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 20 2013 17:07 GMT
#1859
It's extremely likely that mafia used all their available KP on n1, which is at least 3. One is missing (0.5 + 0.5 from pandain and ET) and I believe it was likely also aimed at Ravenclaw.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 20 2013 17:10 GMT
#1860
On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote:
@ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all.


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.
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