On October 25 2013 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
Who else would I vote? Firmtofu?
Who else would I vote? Firmtofu?
Theres 3 scum still alive Chairman, dafuq!
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On October 25 2013 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote: Who else would I vote? Firmtofu? Theres 3 scum still alive Chairman, dafuq! | ||
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On October 25 2013 03:56 Chairman Ray wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2013 03:52 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote: Who else would I vote? Firmtofu? Theres 3 scum still alive Chairman, dafuq! FIIINE ##unvote ##vote: skanjab1s Make a case on the peeps you think are scummy, dont just switch votes buddy. It is rather scummy to just remove your vote as soon as you get questioned on it. | ||
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On October 25 2013 04:11 Chairman Ray wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2013 04:02 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 03:56 Chairman Ray wrote: On October 25 2013 03:52 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote: Who else would I vote? Firmtofu? Theres 3 scum still alive Chairman, dafuq! FIIINE ##unvote ##vote: skanjab1s Make a case on the peeps you think are scummy, dont just switch votes buddy. It is rather scummy to just remove your vote as soon as you get questioned on it. We're right before the deadline and the vote is almost unanimously on Cephiro. My vote doesn't do anything at this point, and it's pretty clear that I'm not even voting seriously. I started off voting myself, and then swapping to a confirmed town, and then swapping to you, all without any explanation. You're putting way too much emphasis on my trollvoting and I'm starting to think that you are mafia trying to ensure my lynch on the next day. So if Cephiro flips scum, I'm not gonna martyr myself anymore, because I think we're bound to get at least one scum if we lynch you, and then holy (who also didn't like my trollvoting). Of course I'm trying to secure your lynch for the next day, I have been saying you are scum this entire game. Your lack of caring is indicative of defeated scum. If you care about helping town lynch scum you should stop your martyr stuff and make cases on who you think is scum, like I'm trying to get you to do. | ||
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On October 25 2013 06:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says. It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab. htf can I be scum with CR? | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2013 06:59 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 06:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says. It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab. htf can I be scum with CR? Where is the problem? You wanted to kill stutters over him. But I wanna kill him guuurl | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:59 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2013 07:48 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote: On October 25 2013 06:59 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 25 2013 06:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Let's say Grack is town for being right. Onegu still town for reasons everybody says. It's Holyflare, CR and Skanjab. htf can I be scum with CR? Where is the problem? You wanted to kill stutters over him. But I wanna kill him guuurl That's what you claim. Do you want to test me tomorrow ^_^? | ||
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On October 25 2013 07:07 justanothertownie wrote: As soon as he really was in danger of being lynched your scumread on him kinda vanished only to appear again later. Also this is factually inaccurate. | ||
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On October 25 2013 10:50 Mocsta wrote: Skanjab filter I searched his filter for cases and Skanjab effectively has 1 case (on Yamato day 1). Later on, he swaps to Sn0 with some reasoning, but it is far from a case. Thats pretty much all he has done. Show nested quote + I thought this was a good case Day1 (maybe i was biased, because I asked him for thoughts on Yamato in the QT which led to this case I 'spose).On October 17 2013 21:48 Skanjab1s wrote: + Show Spoiler [yamato case] + In the QT, I was asked about my thoughts on yamato, these are them: I think he is scum, I dislike a lot of his posts: (1) He has been making a habit of lightly FoSing a bunch of people, but then not following up. Which feels to me like he is fishing for someone to latch on to, and waiting for town's consent before being willing to proceed. Examples: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Skanjab1s On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##vote: Skanjab1s Bring it on slytherin scum State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall. "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote: Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia. Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house. Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. On October 17 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Skanjab1s On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##vote: Skanjab1s Bring it on slytherin scum State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall. "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote: Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia. Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house. Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" who posted this? I wanna know On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 10:38 Mattchew wrote: yo yam, does that mean your thinking what im thinking that if it was Rayn I would lynch him on the spot? + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote: I will say about Matt, it seems odd to me that he instantly seems to trust me this game when I believe he thought I was mafia last game on D1 for absolutely no reason. I expect town Matt to be very suspicious of other people; it seems out of place for him to have such friendly interaction with me. All of these show yamato lightly FoSing people, and then failing to mention/pursue them again. (2) Here is another example that would fit in #1, but I feel it deserves a special mention because it shows yamato's inconsistency in his scum choices. On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote: Hi all, Firstly, I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly? Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game. i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc. Secondly, Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far? Thirdly, I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion. Lastly, I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this. I am a self-aware miller. After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this. So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it. zzzzzzzzzz Moc your opening posts always reek of scum He mentions Moc's post as "reeking of scum" but refuses to state what was scummy about the post. He futhermore, does not further pressure Moc, and instead, a short while later, defends Moc for the exact same post that he just said "reeks of scum": On October 17 2013 10:41 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 08:57 LastArgument wrote: On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote: Firstly, I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly? Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game. i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc. I don't understand any of this reasoning. The only situation where mafia don't understand the exact player make-up of each house is when all the mafia are stacked in 1 or 2 houses. If they're in 3 houses they can obviously deduce the fourth. A mathematician will probably be able to tell you how likely it is that all mafia are in 2 or fewer houses, but I don't think the probability is very high. What information do you think mafia are being given by releasing the members of people's houses then? this is true, but town in GoT were the idiots who came up with the secrecy idea in the first place, so this doesn't mean Moc is mafia unless he's playing intentionally stupid (3) After some game mechanics talk, we arrive at his OMGUS vote on VA. After VA casted "Expelliarmus" on him, he cast a vote onto VA with the reasoning "I'm sick of you". If we just ignore the OMGUS, this is still very poor reasoning for a vote, especially considering the amount of FoS's he has made with actual points. There is no reason given as to why he might think VA is scum whatsoever. Just after this post, he FoS'd Koshi/rayn again with this: On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Skanjab1s On October 17 2013 06:25 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##vote: Skanjab1s Bring it on slytherin scum State your house, challenger, and prepare to see it fall. "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' On October 17 2013 06:51 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote: Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia. Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house. Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. There is actually a lot to get out of that, if there was 1 scum in each house it would make it a hell of a lot easier to find the scum. If the answer had been "yes" then we'd get like, 5 conftown every scum lynch. "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. But still does not vote for him, nor attempt to further push him, preferring instead to keep his vote on VA. To sum up this last point: This vote on VA feels to me like a reactionary vote in fear of VA's cast ability. It is further scummy when read in comparison to the other people he has FoS'd with actual reasoning that he neglects. ##vote: yamato Show nested quote + This is terrible. He drops the well-detailed yamato case for this crap; where is jsut nitpicking bad play as opposed to scummy play. He doesn't detail why this is scum mindset either.On October 19 2013 00:15 Skanjab1s wrote: ##Vote: sn0_Man + Show Spoiler [Sn0 reasoning] + Leans scum on palmar, says that he "could lynch him". Later backs down on this, and now in the QT says that he wants to sheep palmar's policy lynch on Mocsta and that even though he dislikes plynches, sheeping palmar's seems reasonable. A plynch that is agreed by the majority to be the correct play. I find it scummy that he would sheep his former scumread onto a policy lynch when he admits that he usually dislikes policylynches, and especially such a bad policy lynch.. On October 18 2013 14:11 Sn0_Man wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2013 14:06 Mocsta wrote: On October 18 2013 11:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games ![]() Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho. Sn0, you are one of those players that a few are publicly finding difficult to read and/or scummy. Can you please give me a run down on why Toad gets a hard town read. Can you also please also choose 1 of (LA/ET/SS). Thanks sir Not "hard" townreads. More like, No interest in lynching, and i'm lending value to what they say simply because all of them have well thought out posts. I'm considering them town/pro-town until evidence comes up. I dislike the phrase "until evidence comes up." It gives off a willingness to just sit back and wait for other people to scumhunt instead of showing an initiative to do it himself. He is also totes sheeping onto Cephiro and hasn't given any reasoning at all as to why he thinks Cephiro is scum. Show nested quote + Seriously... is this sequence of posts going to actually result in a lynch of the target? Considering the brevity of his former case on yamato; his current actions are not congruent. Reads as distancing to me.On October 21 2013 06:11 Hopeless1der wrote: I want ceph or stutters up for lynch today. Both have made promises of activity that remain unfulfilled. Show nested quote + Again.. why would this receive traction?On October 23 2013 05:07 Skanjab1s wrote: I was hoping someone would shoot CR. ##Vote Chairman Ray Thoughts on a massclaim in the future? This is all his votes as detailed in the thread. Guy has done nothing all game aside from bussing yamato. And has then never pushed it. Conversely; this makes Grack town for this post: Show nested quote + Unfortunately, at the time; it was written with too much personal opinion as opposed to fact/logic so it did not receive the respect it deserved.On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: Skanjab1s + Show Spoiler + Skanjab1s writes a case on Yamato and pushes him in the thread early day1. Eventually Yamato disappears off his radar. On October 19 2013 00:47 Skanjab1s wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote: On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote: You didn't discuss it, you ignored it until Mocsta questioned you on it. False. I tossed it out there in the QT for opinions. Then I went to the thread, thought about stuff, and posted a list of lynches that soudned reasonable. Leaving out mocsta since he's got 0 votes and nobody in teh QT was discussing it with me (very short period of time here). THEN mocsta cried in the thread about the QT without even discussing anything in the QT itself, that was a wtf for me. I didn't ignore it I left it in the QT for discussion which eventually happened. You posted that you wanted to plynch Mocsta in the QT, then did not mention him at all thread. That is ignoring what you said in the QT. Obviously you posted about him in the QT initially, otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about him. On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote: It is scummy because you have: (A) Already stated twice that you dislike any of the current lynch options. (B) Refuse to give any input of your own as to why Cephiro is scummy. Even previously you say "Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well". Also not offering any original insight. I never like lynch options day 1 because nobody's flipped. So what happened to yamato? He's sheeping the same case with the same lack of reasons, why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason? There are also many far more egregious lurkers than me. You still lack any reasoning that makes me scum, you want to lynch me for laziness over your longstanding scumread yamato and over all the actual lurkers. What gives? Classic "why me?" scum defense. I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby. When questioned by Sn0 Man, "why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason?" He says that Yamato's reaction to the case was satisfactory meaning he no longer had a scum read on him or wanted to lynch him. Then when Yamato goes MIA in thread for a long time he comes back with, On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 22:08 Onegu wrote: @ Skanjab1s Can I get a update on your sn0 and yamato reads? Im really interested in yoir yamati read because he hasnt done much of anything since n1 at all. I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing. I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now. This is completely contradictory to what he said earlier. Also unlike Yamato, Stutters' scum meta isn't to post less and less as the game goes on that's his every game meta, yet his voted ended up on Stutters. On October 22 2013 05:00 Skanjab1s wrote: Yeah ill vote for stutters, CRay looks like he will contribute mo' Final reasoning for vote switch is terrible. He had actual reasons to believe Yamato was scummy and they were much better than his reasons to lynch stutters. Skanjab1s didn't even mention Stutters before his last minute switch. Also his reasoning directly contradicts what he said earlier. On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote: Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet? Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets. he was very confident in Yamato being scum and I don't think he could have been as confident in his read on stutters based on the reasoning he put out. On October 22 2013 06:06 Skanjab1s wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2013 05:51 Grackaroni wrote: On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote: On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote: Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet? Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets. I don't believe you. Show me the things Stutters was doing that were in your opinion scummier than what you posted on Yamato. In retrospect, the things Stutters was doing were not scummier than what I posted on Yamato, I do not even know why I switched, but alas these are the things that made me think Stutters was scum: Show nested quote + On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote: Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town. Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently. > Coming out of nowhere with just "Ceph is not town, because his role". Not offering any further insight into his scum read on Ceph Show nested quote + On October 22 2013 04:14 Stutters695 wrote: On October 22 2013 03:56 Blazinghand wrote: Reading through stutters' filter, it seems he's posting just enough not to get modkilled. I'm comfortable lynching him. Since we have a lot of space after the N1 actions, it's reasonable to use a lynch or two to clear out chaff. ##unvote ##vote sutters695 On October 22 2013 03:54 Mattchew wrote: as of right now i am going to vote hopeless, i am treating Yam/CR as if they don't exist in this game because in my mind they dont, and should be modkilled hopeless situation will resolve itself though, right? I really don't like how this is worded. Based off of this post and your next post after, you imply I'm intentionally coasting by on the minimum to avoid a modkill. Given your considerable experience with me, you should know that as town I don't do that. I am an infrequent poster but I make my thoughts known (which I feel I've done with Ceph). Yet you feel the need to justify lynching me by saying we can spare(I.e. waste) lynches. Covering your ass for when I flip exactly what I claimed? > Says that as town, he doesn't just coast by (which he was doing). Then says that he is an infrequent poster, but as town he makes his thoughts known. As I've just said, he wasn't making his thoughts known at all. Show nested quote + On October 22 2013 04:37 Stutters695 wrote: CR: Read my summary of his actions in the Griff qt and it will make more sense. > Him telling someone to read the summary of Ceph's actions in the qt, but then someone else pointing out that there was no such summary, made me think that he was just saying it in thread to make it seem as if he was contributing, at least in his QT. Those were the things he posted that gave me scumfeels. Points 1 and 3 are totally invalid. 1) Stutters had a scum read before this post on cephiro and gave reasons besides he's scum because of his role. I would think if Skanjab1s was reading Stutters as scum he would have looked over his filter and realized this. 3) No scum in the history of mafia has lied about having posted something in a QT that he actually didn't and directed somebody to take a look at it in order to "appear contributory". 2) is just weak and I don't see why he would think him doing this is scummier than Yamato doing this. Aside from that Skanjab1s was very confident that Yamato was scum earlier and he was the only one I remember that wrote a case on Yamato. All mafia players have big egos; I think a natural response would be for him to want to have been right about Yamato all along and lynch his original scum read. Beyond all of that other reasoning I don't believe for one second that him showing up in the thread in the last minute was mere happenstance. He wanted Stutters to be lynched but he didn't want to risk losing the town cred from pushing Yamato so he waited it out without posting thoughts in thread that may look bad on him later. I can see the secret vote and him voting doesn't exactly line up but these situations can be very chaotic and scum teams don't have perfect organization. The crux of his case is how skanjab didn't follow through with his case on yamato. The points here re-enforce all the reasons why I think Skanjab is scum distancing yamato/chairman_ray LYNCH WITH FIRE !!! The only point in that case is that I have been "bussing" yamato, but not following through. Which is just wrong. I have been pushing for the lynch of this scum for the whole game, not for "towncred" but to kill scum. You say I have been distancing, which is simply silly, given the amount that I have pushed him this game. There is no distancing whatsoever. You even say that my pushing hopeless for thoughts on yamato, is distancing. It is the exact opposite of distancing. As for me not following through with the case on yamato - it is practically all I have spoken about, and I've had my vote on him at the end of every day. I am a giant rolling boulder of follow-through. | ||
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On October 25 2013 11:43 Grackaroni wrote: lol Skan which case is better. Mine or Mocsta's!? Only you can settle this... ![]() Yours is much better. | ||
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On October 25 2013 11:43 Mocsta wrote: My case details the extent of your pushing You clearly jumped to the summary and avoided the meat and potatoes. Well done skanjab No, that was really the whole case. Also a part about me making a case on snoman, as if pressuring my scumreads is a bad thing. | ||
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