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Shit goes down here: On October 19 2013 04:30 Cephiro wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Okay so.. I'm happy that I'm good enough to play with the same style as both scum and town and having them viable. I'm sad that established TL-players are so confident in their "meta-gaming skills". Maybe they'll learn one day. Maybe. I remember being sad about it over a year ago when I went to the army. I guess things don't change that much. Someone asked me about my opinion on the Sn0_Man lynch, I personally think it's a mislynch. The flaws in his play are that he hasn't been very committal nor active at scumhunting, but the way he responds to pressure and says his opinions make me think he's town. As well as the fact that even though he is on my wagon, he doesn't seem to be very content with it. (Of course a townie has to put his vote somewhere, and scum pushed me up well enough to not leave many other options.) It seems like players haven't even considered other options properly. Someone suggested I should die, painted me to look a little worse than what I really am due to my lack of activity, and boom, case closed. Train full speed ahead. Gonna post all my reads now since I'm not very positive about myself surviving. Even though I am a main character, I don't consider my role extremely powerful, so maybe a worse mislynch may get prevented if anything. Since time is short, this is a straight copypaste from my notepad file. This is up to date to my first post only (page 42-ish), but holds very true. + Show Spoiler + Hogwarts Mafia Player list by house: ******************* Gryffindor: ******************* 1. Cephiro - Towniest Town Alive Give coin to Toad 3. Pandain - Probably Town 5. VayneAuthority (Ginny Weasley?) - Bad start in thread. Puts time into setup speculation. Fishes for reaction from yamato, tbh I like. Plays too ignorantly. 6. raynpelikonoshi - Pushes at start for bad reasons. Ugh. Why not push if you could? Too wishywashy. Makes me look bad on purpose. 18. Stutters695 - Null/Lurk 20. justanothertownie - super null ******************** Slytherin: Active QT ******************** 2. Sn0_Man - Good points. Sharp. Fluff. 7. EchelonTee - Wants to hear from Mattchew, good pickup. Good points. Shares his house, late in the game. Valid points. Defends himself properly. 12. I-be-Pro - Seems ok, good points. Pro-town. Setup speculation. Thinks his role is anti-town. 14. Skanjab1s - Suspicious question in QT, good logic but false example. Ambigious answers. Defends rayko after pressured by him. Tries hard. Crap. Not useful. wants to fill? Seems like he gets helped by scumbuddies. 16. Blazinghand 19. Mocsta - Self-aware Miller claim. Seems like town. Would fit within theme. (Good guy Slytherin looks bad because Slytherin?) Plays pro-town. Coin? ********************* Hufflepuff: G+2H lots of discussion in topic instead of QT.. good thing? ********************* 4. Grackaroni - Suspicious about his own house. Town w/ hopeless? Wants to stay under the radar. Town blue? Too easy townread on yamato. 8. Mattchew - Almost insta-jump on miller claim, nothing else. Weird.. Random jump to talk with yamato, nothing else. Weirder.. Just like really bad. Addresses all points made on him, but poorly. 11. Palmar - Jumps in to question Mocsta claim, nothing else. Sticks to that. Nothing else. EXTREMELY useless. Too focused on claim. 21. Hopeless1der - A bit more careful in the G+2H discussion. Town? Interesting ability speculation. Reasonable in his opinions. Coin? Maybe not very tricky? 22. Holyflare - Seemingly ok attitude about QT, weird defense on Skanjab1s Very concentrated on Grack/Hopeless about not competing. A bit too trigger-happy? Interesting opinion about not caring about what scum does? 23. StorrZerg - Asked about how much mafia in where. Same as Skanjab1s Seems to be chiming in for irrelevant stuff. Random Sn0_Man accusation. ********************* Ravenclaw: ********************* 9. Onegu - Useless, too many sorries or truly busy? 10. LoneMeow - 13. syllogism - Setup post that he claims useless, doesn't make much sense. Points things out favourably for his opinion. (Ignores StorrZerg comment.) Good points when it doesn't hurt mafia play. 15. supersoft - generally good vibe 17. LastArgument - Valid point, I like. Coin? 24. yamato77 - Just bad, shares information related to activity only. Filler activity. Does, doesn't. Notices Matt's buddying attempt, good. Wants himself to be analysed. Not pro-mafia. + Show Spoiler + REDACTED Suggestions(Townreads): LastArgument Hopeless1der Mocsta EchelonTee Pandain I-be-Pro Scum: StorrZerg Mattchew Maybe?: rayko holyflare syllo Palmar VayneAuthority skanjab1s The first one to get his vote off Cephiro is sn0man. On October 19 2013 04:40 Sn0_Man wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Stutters Apologies for not giving stutter's full name but it wasn't in the post count and i'm lazy  There is NOTHING in the thread to explain this change and he moves to one of his "scumreads". Snowman has no reads this game but decided to go off Cephiro as first, not pushing an or his alternative. Hmm. I don't really like it. On October 19 2013 04:33 Sn0_Man wrote: What is this coin stuff (I assume it has to do with your role?) Second to get his vote off Cephiro am I. I had to leave for soccer in 9 minutes and felt like StorrZerg was the better lynch On October 19 2013 04:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: StorrZerg He and Mattchew are actually people I don't really like. I am liking Cephiro now. But only because of those notes. Cephiro: 1 fucking post is not enough, stop whining about we metaing you when it is the only thing we have when you decide to bitch and whine 24/7 and make 1 good post in 47 hours. With 15 minutes to go we get following votes: On October 19 2013 04:45 Hopeless1der wrote: deal with palmar tomorrow please. especially if he's going to get himself modkilled, but I'd rather give him a chance to try instead of last-minute hammering him. I also dislike mocsta insisting we lynch the guy who has been replaced, but I guess thats just me. ##Unvote Will end up on Stutters On October 19 2013 04:46 I-be-Pro wrote: ##unvote ##vote palmar That notesheet doesn't fit the reason we're lynching Ceph for. On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote: ##vote Palmar reason: On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote: I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.) and afterwards when mattchew gets traction: On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Mattchew Holyflare makes a case on Mattchew in the thread and votes accordingly: On October 19 2013 04:48 Holyflare wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew People sheep: On October 19 2013 04:49 Mocsta wrote: ##Vote: MAttchew On October 19 2013 04:50 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE MATTCHEW On October 19 2013 04:51 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Mattchew Now 8 fucking minutes before deadline it gets interesting. Remember kids: There was not much time left and Holyflare might have forced scum to show face with his case Mocsta moves off Mattchew AFTER 2 more people vote Mattchew and withing 3 minutes after his previous vote!!!!! On October 19 2013 04:52 Mocsta wrote: ##unvote ##vote: blazinghand And look at this. Cephiro his first vote and preffered lynch target was Mattchew. Guess what suddenly happens: On October 19 2013 04:54 Cephiro wrote: ##unvote ##vote Palmar This is not to save himself like Cephiro first used as reason to vote Palmar. This looks like trying to save Mattchew. The guy HE WANTS TO LYNCH. This happens 4 minutes after he votes for his favorite lynch of the day.... On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Joins the Palmar lynch. Reason: On October 19 2013 04:54 LastArgument wrote: I'm going back on what I said earlier about Palmar and voting to lynch him. Plus I like to sheep syllogism. Cephiro, if you're pulling this bullshit as mafia, I'll be distinctly unimpressed, and you will not be allowed to skirt by not contributing during the next cycle. Would prefer to kill Palmar than Mattchew, we're not losing an asset in Palmar if he's not willing to play, and I don't like the fact that Palmar is avoiding syllogism ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar The fact that LastArgument states that he is going against his earlier read is towny imo. Also, his town read on syllo was correct. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Look at the indecision of JAT On October 19 2013 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: ##unvote On October 19 2013 04:44 justanothertownie wrote: I would switch to palmar. On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote: I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Now because I think that Mattchew is scum I am really disliking JAT atm. See, I don't like Mocsta at all anymore. He goes from Mattchew which was in his eyes a good lynch --> Too Blazinghands because he is certain about Zaragon ---> PALMAR??????? Then there are these guys: On October 19 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote: ##unvote ##vote Palmar Only because stutters wont fly.  Mehhh. On October 19 2013 04:58 StorrZerg wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Palmar Ninjavote This is what Mattchew was doing during the vote race: NOTHING This is what he said when it was (almost) done: On October 19 2013 04:57 Mattchew wrote: wait what the fuck is going on Conclusion If Mattchew is scum I would take serious looks at Cephiro, JAT and Mocsta. Storrzerg ninjavote was terrible. I feel him as scum. Stutters played it all alone and I do NOT feel him as scum because of that. Snowman voting patters was terrible. Him going after Stutters for 48 hours is looking bad now. I have no other conclusions to make out of the vote race. Maybe others see things I missed. I do think this sums everything up nicely. So my current scumlist, or at least the list in which I would like to see somebody die: Mocsta Storrzerg Mattchew Cephiro JAT So can I ask a vigshot on Mattchew | ||
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On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote: this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily | ||
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Mocsta Mattchew Cephiro Any of these 3 will do. | ||
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We kinda lynched the vigi though D: | ||
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Can you explain to me why you said this: On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote: I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.) Why did you go Palmar to save yourself--> Mattchew your favorite lynch ---> back to Palmar for no reason at all??? (except to save Mattchew) Do you see how there is no Palmar in your updated reads: On October 19 2013 04:32 Cephiro wrote: Kill rayn, Storr, Matt. | ||
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Mattchew --> BH after Mattchew gets traction ---> Palmar | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case. I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though. No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me. There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar. So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam. But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew. Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it. ^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro) And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads. Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:28 syllogism wrote: I really can't see mafia Mocsta making this post knowing that Cephiro is mafia as well. It would either mean that he is faking his disgust or him taking advantage of very cheap play with similarly cheap play. Either way, I would be highly disappointed in him. I agree. But as both scummers Mocsta had an easy time to catch this monstrosity and might have been so disgusted he trew it in the thread. | ||
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On October 19 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: I reread Hopeless and am way less convinced than yesterday. If someone is interested in my reasoning I can post it but since he obviously won't be lynched I think this should be postponed for now. ##Vote: Cephiro Nothing on Cephiro. On October 19 2013 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: I have voted - that's why I said try again. My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him. Cephiro is a good lynch. Still no reasons. On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote: I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters. Actual reasons to vote for somebody. Except for JAT case on Hopelessder the first reasons JAT has to think somebody is scum. On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar Better vote Palmar!!! | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote: Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed. I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam. Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was. I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA. One of the 6 was this guy On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote: ##vote Palmar But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4. So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4. And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes. So JAT? Why so scummy? And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:50 Grackaroni wrote: Hah JAT isn't reading the thread. JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally. | ||
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On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum. You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great. It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive? Why so scummy? | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:02 justanothertownie wrote: It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand? Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment. Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again' You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2. I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway. | ||
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Must untunnel now. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: Why are you lying about me? Cephiro: Palmar: He didn't do shit. I did not like it. Yeah, I probably won't be killed - we agree on that. Ok cool. Thx. I kinda only looked at the posts you voted it. And a bit around that. Hmm. Dnu, about you JAT, Dnu. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote: My thoughts about people from my house Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town. Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him. Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. )Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting. If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both. | ||
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On October 20 2013 02:28 justanothertownie wrote: Look. We agree on something! If there is scum in every house - we don't know that. If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why? Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg? | ||
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