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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 20 2013 21:15 GMT
#2007
And I know BH fits that bill too but he didn't throw a goddamn hissyfit over the thought of being lynched for it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:10 GMT
#2290
On October 22 2013 00:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
StorrZerg you have absolutely no idea how Pandain interacts with his scumbuddies.

Storr & Matt, rephrase your QT. Now. I don't believe your bullshit with no proof given.

-rayn

Hufflepuff as a house has established that storr and matt are town. Stop trying to strongarm them. They had a mason chat and decided they were mutually town.

Deal.
With.
It.



Cephiro
What in the hell was up with your vote on Palmar?
What are you thoughts on me, grack, or holy?
Stop blaming hufflepuff for not solving who to lynch FOR town. Are you part of us or not, do your own work instead of pawning responsibility onto everyone else. You've been active. You haven't been actively hunting scum. Mattchew absolutely doesn't count, especially in light of you apparently stealing someone elses case.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:20 GMT
#2299
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Shut. Up. Please. Hufflepuff will decide when we want to lynch from within.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:21 GMT
#2304
On October 22 2013 01:13 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear Hopeless,

You promised a reread of the D1 lynch did u do that yet?

PS are you scum?

I did, i don't like cephiro's voting pattern and want an explanation. Its easily the most conspicuous part of the end of Day 1 to me. Further, LoneMeow's post here makes me think scum were sincerely attempting to swing a (successful) mislynch on Palmar. Its hard to say whether the draw of Palmar's death was worth sticking his neck out the way he did, or if there was the added bonus of saving a teammate.
On October 19 2013 03:48 LoneMeow wrote:
I feel Cephiro is unsafe lynch, despite the lack of (earlier) content. I don't understand why he'd play this way, but to me it seems his current frustration is genuine.

I'd far rather lynch Palmar, his filter has a distinct lack of scum hunting in it.

##Vote: Palmar

Its one of the only posts he has, and certainly the only one that shows any kind of motive.

PS No, I'm not scum

PSS I'm not clear on why you insist ceph is not scum, but I havent read that closely the past couple pages. Can you spell it out for me?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:23 GMT
#2308
On October 22 2013 01:20 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
StorrZerg you have absolutely no idea how Pandain interacts with his scumbuddies.

Storr & Matt, rephrase your QT. Now. I don't believe your bullshit with no proof given.

-rayn

Hufflepuff as a house has established that storr and matt are town. Stop trying to strongarm them. They had a mason chat and decided they were mutually town.

Deal.
With.
It.



Cephiro
What in the hell was up with your vote on Palmar?
What are you thoughts on me, grack, or holy?
Stop blaming hufflepuff for not solving who to lynch FOR town. Are you part of us or not, do your own work instead of pawning responsibility onto everyone else. You've been active. You haven't been actively hunting scum. Mattchew absolutely doesn't count, especially in light of you apparently stealing someone elses case.



I would have loved to hear this statement that it is an common opinion that you all agree with. (Storr & matt both being town.)
If you all very firmly believe so, that leaves only you and holy for me, and atm I think you are looking better than holy. I have not provided analytive case posts because I have wanted to hear more from the house members and what has been going on in your QT, and your opinions on each other before finishing them. Even in the few hours up to now my reads have changed significantly. I don't see why I should make an "unfinished case".

As for the case-steal, I will come out now and say that it was just a ploy. JAT & rayko can confirm this. I intendendly copied his read after asking if he was okay with, and asked him to call me out for it. I got what I needed from it, so I wish that will be left alone now as it's very likely something others will not get much out of.


A) You ignored the palmar vote shenanigans.
B) The highlighted is scummy considering we are discussing things in our QT and can vouch for our reads concerning one another. You should not require OUR reads to form your own. You're stalling and planning to tailor your reads to Hufflepuff sentiment however it can suit you.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#2323
On October 22 2013 01:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:27 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2013 01:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So, apparently everyone in Hufflepuff knows a lot of townies. Everyone has StorrZerg as a townread. Therefore you can trust his check.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KNOW WHO IS SCUM THERE?

-rayn

Frankly I think the odds of hitting mafia outside hufflepuff is roughly the same as in hufflepuff.

It's not about the odds. They trust StorrZerg. They have a lot of townreads. People should know who is scum, at least 50%. Why are they not even pressuring those people? They just tell everyone else to "shut up" about their house.

-rayn

There's been a lot of discussion revolving around the issue already and likely more in their QT. Everyone in hufflepuff is fairly active and has to stay that way. I would rather have them find mafia outside the house, as that is useful information and I would prefer killing people who aren't playing the game and may be mafia (bh,yamato, maybe stutters).

Do you think ceph is legit "playing the game" at this point?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#2325
##Vote: Cephiro
The Palmar vote shenanigans Ceph. Y u do dis?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:43 GMT
#2328
On October 22 2013 01:40 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
A) You ignored the palmar vote shenanigans.
B) The highlighted is scummy considering we are discussing things in our QT and can vouch for our reads concerning one another. You should not require OUR reads to form your own. You're stalling and planning to tailor your reads to Hufflepuff sentiment however it can suit you.


A) Sorry, did not mean to. See below.

B) I want to hear your opinion of the QT stuff because it's extremely valuable information that none of us outside has. I don't want to steal your reads, I want to hear them. More importantly, I WANT THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN YOUR QT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. Makes reading into the posts by hufflepuffians much easier.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:50 Cephiro wrote:
Also for the "Palmar modkill speculation"

Assuming worst case scenario: (Both me and him are town)

If we lynch Palmar -> Palmar dies (-1 Town?)
If we lynch Me -> I die (-1 Town, possibly -2 if palmar gets modkilled and is town)

All aboard the Palmar wagon? >_>


Is there something unclear about this?


Yes, the part where you were not going to die and a scumread was an available target. What is your motive for not wanting to push Mattchew at the end of Day1?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#2329
Syllo does Ceph's narrative make sense to you? Would you in desperation just park your vote on Palmar and be happy you were not dieing? Or would you try to get Mattchew lynched at the same time?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 17:08 GMT
#2359
On October 22 2013 02:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town.

Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently.

So Scum voted Ceph when the voting was CLOSE yesterday then peaced all the way thru the lynch. Ceph can't be scum tho I admit he looks kinda anti town.

Try again

The WIFOM is strong with this one.


On October 22 2013 01:49 Cephiro wrote:
Also we definitely should lynch either hope or holy tonight. If all these hufflepuffians believe in Storr & Matt so strongly, that either leaves.

A) Scum is holy or hope (Grack is extremely unlikely to be scum based on his thread presence, and the pandain mason query.)
B) Cop check is bullshit
C) Scum matt managed to talk Storr over to believe in him.

With matt's recent reactions I am very firmly believing it is either hope or holy. Holy looking worse right now in my opinion.

Elaborate please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 17:09 GMT
#2362
On October 22 2013 02:08 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town.

Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently.

Role claim please

He did syllo
On October 21 2013 04:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 04:08 syllogism wrote:
Stutters: role claim please

Parvati Patil role pm was identical to LA's except with the names switched.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 17:32 GMT
#2386
I'll be back around 30 minutes to deadline again. Someone consider how Ceph has gone from Matt->Holy->me.
I don't want to lynch within Hufflepuff, but Holy's got my number on not giving Grack enough of a read to have an informed opinion.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 18:08 GMT
#2433
On October 22 2013 03:05 syllogism wrote:
So if the potion is given on n1, it has to be chucked on n2 and takes effect on n3?

Takes effect immediately. For example if toad lived I would have gotten his alignment, assuming he drank it, once hosts had confirmed the actions. Potions show up with the day post and a message saying mysterious potion like storr was asking about earlier.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 18:13 GMT
#2438
On October 22 2013 03:09 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 03:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:05 syllogism wrote:
So if the potion is given on n1, it has to be chucked on n2 and takes effect on n3?

Takes effect immediately. For example if toad lived I would have gotten his alignment, assuming he drank it, once hosts had confirmed the actions. Potions show up with the day post and a message saying mysterious potion like storr was asking about earlier.

So you are saying that if you give me one of the potions and I quaff it tonight, I can't be targeted by actions?

You won't be able to drink it until start of day 3.So long as you don't die tonight then I can guarantee your safety from start of day 3 to start of day 4.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:30 GMT
#2530
On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot

and that confirms alignment how?

it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt?


@Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message"
There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:32 GMT
#2534
On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.

NK's only. Delays flip for that 24 hours. I'm not sure if the thread is made aware of the death, but the potion drinker will be aware they are set to die.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:34 GMT
#2536
On October 22 2013 04:32 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot

and that confirms alignment how?

it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt?


@Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message"
There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM.

If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative

I know and I agree. However, if you think I am scum, at the very least my powers are being used in the most "protown" fashion. Felix is at least worth the chance of keeping me around a day, isnt it?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#2540
On October 22 2013 04:33 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.

why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo

How? Their vote wouldn't count by the end of the day. The benefit of the ability is to guarantee return checks from night actions and possibly for strong townies to give analysis on new content from other NK's, or even on their OWN death. Its a very pro-town ability.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#2541
On October 22 2013 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
"felix"?

immunity/untargettable i.e. what we're saying i'll give to syllo
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#2550
On October 22 2013 04:42 StorrZerg wrote:
Voted Hopeless


...uhhh why? You dont want to chance me making syllo invulnerable?
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