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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 17 2013 17:20 GMT
#721
On October 16 2013 02:39 You-Know-Who wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 02:37 Ange777 wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
If there isn't already such a rule, can we forbid mass claiming flavor and what not? I could quickly see this turning into everyone claiming their character and using the flavor to lynch. Or will the game make no sense and people like harry potter can be mafia?


There is no need for such a rule. Claiming your flavor is allowed.



"No need for such a rule" heavily implies that claiming flavor as a reason for being town is bullshit.
Writer@WriterYamato
You-Know-Who
Profile Joined September 2013
Great Britain155 Posts
October 17 2013 17:20 GMT
#722
Watch your language guys. I have seen a couple of affronts and insults in both the thread and the QTs. We have stated repeatedly and explicitly that we wish this game to be a friendly playing environment. Attack the argument, not the player.

Ange
There is no good and evil. There is only power, and those too weak to seek it.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 17 2013 17:20 GMT
#723
On October 18 2013 02:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
Vayne, is yamato scum? if yes, why? If no, who is?


yamato should never be a concern in anyone's mind. By day 2 or 3 his scum game always falls off. This is why I advocated not lynched him day 1 in thug life but it happened anyway. yamato is either forgetting or ignoring the fact that I defended him in thug life.
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#724
On October 18 2013 02:13 Palmar wrote:
but I'm not scum grackaroni :

also hopelesswonder is maybe town

You dare accuse your doctor of a misdiagnosis? Maybe you should just take your business elsewhere. There are plenty of other doctors out there who will just let your disease fester. They don't even have the decency to kill you with fire.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#725
Also I'm pretty sure that scum aren't going to be left with roles like "Voldemort".

Worst roles of all time.

Ron/Herminoie/Harry are probably confirmed, anyone else is fair game.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#726
On October 18 2013 02:20 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 02:39 You-Know-Who wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:37 Ange777 wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
If there isn't already such a rule, can we forbid mass claiming flavor and what not? I could quickly see this turning into everyone claiming their character and using the flavor to lynch. Or will the game make no sense and people like harry potter can be mafia?


There is no need for such a rule. Claiming your flavor is allowed.



"No need for such a rule" heavily implies that claiming flavor as a reason for being town is bullshit.


I dont give a shit, they said that in golden sun too and the 4 main characters of the game were all blue roles but nobody knew the flavor thankfully. Im confirmed town as far as im concerned until a main character flips scum.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 17:24 GMT
#727
On October 18 2013 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
it is physically incapable for me to be mafia anyhow, I am one of the main characters. the one that banged harry potter. zer0 chance of me being mafia until a scum flips with a good guy name. I doubt that will happen tho.

Wasn't the sis of Ron quite awkward love story wise? She might be scummer in a love story themed Harry Potter game. That being said, you just going to hide behind adhom and your character name?

I remember you being very pro friendlyness in Thug Life.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 17 2013 17:25 GMT
#728
On October 18 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:20 yamato77 wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:39 You-Know-Who wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:37 Ange777 wrote:
On October 16 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
If there isn't already such a rule, can we forbid mass claiming flavor and what not? I could quickly see this turning into everyone claiming their character and using the flavor to lynch. Or will the game make no sense and people like harry potter can be mafia?


There is no need for such a rule. Claiming your flavor is allowed.



"No need for such a rule" heavily implies that claiming flavor as a reason for being town is bullshit.


I dont give a shit, they said that in golden sun too and the 4 main characters of the game were all blue roles but nobody knew the flavor thankfully. Im confirmed town as far as im concerned until a main character flips scum.

I am confirmed town. To myself. Because I have my PM. That tells me I'm town. I do not have this information for you. Therefore you are confirmed full of shit. Stop antagonizing yamato. After that, you can hunt scum or die. Its your choice.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 17 2013 17:25 GMT
#729
I don't really think that Vayne is mafia. I believe that he thinks he's confirmed town for his name and is now just doing whatever the fuck he likes because he thinks he's untouchable. early game town Vayne doesn't really try to get people lynched.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#730
On October 18 2013 02:24 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
it is physically incapable for me to be mafia anyhow, I am one of the main characters. the one that banged harry potter. zer0 chance of me being mafia until a scum flips with a good guy name. I doubt that will happen tho.

Wasn't the sis of Ron quite awkward love story wise? She might be scummer in a love story themed Harry Potter game. That being said, you just going to hide behind adhom and your character name?

I remember you being very pro friendlyness in Thug Life.


I don't play friendly with people like yamato, there's only one way to speak to people like him. I also provided multiple directly quoted examples but feel free to ignore all that.

and yes i will hide behind my name until I die given the rules
I come in for the scraps
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#731
On October 18 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote:
There is literally zero explanation for this play coming from town.

Seriously, he is mafia.


He was a dick to me in Thug, and even though I was mafia he couldn't be sure. And being a dick isn't acceptable anyway.

I wanted to do this at the start of the game but was willing to give him a chance and actually scum hunt other players who are lynched solely for their posts.

However Vayne is disrupting the thread and will be a nuisiance later on. I will in essence sup up my (good) reasons for lynching Vayne that I had outlined in Thug Life:

1. His playstyle is not to lynch people but to avoid getting lynched. This is a playstyle which needs to be discouraged.
2. Hes not going to contribute until Day 3/4 anyway.

I actually had a town read on him which I wasn't certain on, but he's a good enough lynch as honestly we probably wouldn't lynch scum anyway today.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#732
This is the last time i say this:
On October 12 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 23:48 phagga wrote:
Also, I think some towns are hard to lead. While most townies are looking for a leader (which makes them susceptible to scum manipulations), there are some who want to do just their own thing. Vayne is a good example of the latter, and I think you wasted too much time trying to get him to do more (after all, you know how he plays) while also being unnecessary aggressive towards him. It was ok that you started ignoring him for a while, but you should have done that much earlier and concentrate on other players.

This is what most people go wrong with Vayne. That just doesn't work. He does stuff and interacts with you if you do it right. But never ever be aggressive or threaten him. He is usually quite spot on with his reads but how to interact with him is the question here, and being aggressive is not the answer.

Now stop it. If you think he is mafia, vote for him and give your reasons (hint: he's not) but don't do this what you are doing atm yamato and Pandain.

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 17 2013 17:46 GMT
#733
So Cephiro has now made 4 posts in house QT. One was a setup speculation post that he could have posted in thread aswell. Three other posts are attacking me and Pandain for calling him out for posting in QT but not in thread (Cephiro posted twice as much in scum QT than in thread in Noir). What gives?

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
LastArgument
Profile Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
October 17 2013 17:48 GMT
#734
On October 18 2013 02:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So Cephiro has now made 4 posts in house QT. One was a setup speculation post that he could have posted in thread aswell. Three other posts are attacking me and Pandain for calling him out for posting in QT but not in thread (Cephiro posted twice as much in scum QT than in thread in Noir). What gives?

-rayn


I've been toying with this vote for a while, good enough for me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Cephiro
If i have learned one thing from life, it's that every man wants something
You-Know-Who
Profile Joined September 2013
Great Britain155 Posts
October 17 2013 17:48 GMT
#735
Second and final warning for Pandain (editing in QTs is not allowed).

<3
There is no good and evil. There is only power, and those too weak to seek it.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#736
On October 18 2013 02:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
This is the last time i say this:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 12 2013 23:48 phagga wrote:
Also, I think some towns are hard to lead. While most townies are looking for a leader (which makes them susceptible to scum manipulations), there are some who want to do just their own thing. Vayne is a good example of the latter, and I think you wasted too much time trying to get him to do more (after all, you know how he plays) while also being unnecessary aggressive towards him. It was ok that you started ignoring him for a while, but you should have done that much earlier and concentrate on other players.

This is what most people go wrong with Vayne. That just doesn't work. He does stuff and interacts with you if you do it right. But never ever be aggressive or threaten him. He is usually quite spot on with his reads but how to interact with him is the question here, and being aggressive is not the answer.

Now stop it. If you think he is mafia, vote for him and give your reasons (hint: he's not) but don't do this what you are doing atm yamato and Pandain.

-rayn

You are wrong. And I did vote. I'm going to continue to play today, but make no mistake, Vayne hangs at the end of today.
Writer@WriterYamato
I-be-Pro
Profile Joined September 2013
Azerbaijan97 Posts
October 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#737
On October 18 2013 01:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 00:52 LastArgument wrote:
I can't think of an occasion in the last however long that a self-aware miller didn't claim on Day 1.

And they were certainly never lynched for it.

Mattchew was lynched...about a year ago due to a self-aware claim day1.
Sidenote, get your vote off me or re-explain why im scum.


Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 01:00 yamato77 wrote:
Also, if anyone wants to comment on the waffle from Toad, I'd like some other perspectives.

[big]Short answer is he sees a bunch of null tells and a couple town tells. ergo you're a townread. Grats.


Palmar, you're not much for discussing closed setups iirc, but what do you make of Yamato and Mattchew outing their QT playerlists (Top of page 25)? If you'd rather not comment on this, can you do something other than sit and wait on mocsta's return?



In other news, we're on track to policy lynch someone. Will it be the lurker, the troll, or the claimed self-aware miller?

[/b]

Yes that's the short answer. The short message trimmed down to what's important would be:

I do understand why ska...-whatever is saying what he's saying and I'd agree with him if it wasn't Yamato we're talking about. The post about Yamato is about Yamato but more about the fact that I actually like ska....'s posting ever since he took the break and clamed down a little.
I do like his case despite me disagreeing with it because of my game I played with Yamato so far.
I might not really be Pro
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 17 2013 18:00 GMT
#738
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.


Secondly,

Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far?


Thirdly,

I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion.


Lastly,
I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this.

I am a self-aware miller.

After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this.
So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it.


one question are you a squib?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 17 2013 18:04 GMT
#739
On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
Hi all,



Firstly,
I'm not sure why Supersoft/Toad want to release the house member distribution so eagerly?

Could either of you please divulge some reasoning behind this play

I know neither of them played GoT; but IIRC, the end-game discussion resulted in agreement between players/hosts that it was in towns best interest NOT to give out the house information. Though the setups are not identical, there are enough commonalities for me to conclude that the reasons in that game, pertain in this game.

i.e. mafia are randomly distributed; and there is potential there is at least one house they have not corrupted. Why give this information to them for free --> especially when we don't know what type of roles they have etc.


Secondly,

Raynkonoshi, can you please confirm that because no posts have been signed by Rayn; you are responsible for every post made by your hydra so far?


Thirdly,

I have no opinion on the skanjab stuff so far. I'm acknowledging it occured because obvious thats the biggest matter going on in the thread so far; but I need to re-read it all again before stating an opinion.


Lastly,
I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this.

I am a self-aware miller.

After my doctor fake-claims as town last game, I can understand those that refuse to believe this.
So if this ends up in my lynch, so be it.


one question are you a squib?

what a dumb question lol.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#740
Given the fact Palmar isn't going to do shit without X happening he's good chance of scum. Also I haven't played with him in forever but isn't he good on day one and nail people?
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