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I do not need to defend this squib thing again, you wasted the entirety of day 2 doing the same thing and quite clearly i have rectified myself since then. Yet somehow, people have seemingly ignored it right until now? That's a little TOO convenient don't you think? It's not the hardest fucking thing in the world. I don't need to make any counter cases because I've solved the game for you. BH DIDN'T SAVE SN0 AND WASN'T RB'D his pissy shit sob story is pathetic. Skan refuses to reveal his role at this point in the game, doesn't contribute, parks a vote on a wagon and afks. Has questionable day 1, shit rest of the game because?? Demoralised?? Totally useless. Onegu claims vet and that he was shot after rb'd bh, has nothing but tunnel, soft pushes bh and then totally drops it after last night even though BH evidence is damning. | ||
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I am not going to yell or cry and make excuses about what you are doing other than call your play shit. Some guy posts nothing for 2 days and claims medic at the end of a day after a lot of pressure and doing nothing. His medic was put to the test last night. It quite clearly failed. Yet, that's not enough evidence for you?? His posts were nothing like town bh meta and then he's quite clearly forced into saying how hes demoralised, you wabt to know the really stupid part?? THAT YOU BELIEVE IT. Syllo claims that if sn0 gets shot that is like BH claiming mafia. Yet he has done nothing to follow up on that and quite clearly won't today. I'm tired of letting him past and I've been on this guy for like 3 straight days but when my suspicions come fo fruition and actually become really obvious to everyone they turn around and lynch me. Yeh great town you're with there. Onegu has been a dark horse. His play isn't like his meta which I've semi properly read now, his play as been constantly tunneled upon me with inconsistencies. He thought the 2 people that I was pressuring hard;Bh abd mattchew were scum but that was how he initially derived a scum read on me? How does that make sense. He's fake pushed me all game and has come up with no evidence of why I am scum, he just states that I am and that he has read. Look at his votes? They follow thrwad sentiment all they way, never following his suspicions, never making cases on his scum reads, and then claims vet because after the entire thread has revealed, he has to right? Not to mention that they even shot him in the first place. I have no idea why people find that believable. Scum would not visit the house that contains the person with lumos in it to shoot a guy whose powers they don't know over 2 medics who couldn't heal each other and 2-3 town reads. | ||
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On October 30 2013 10:39 Mocsta wrote: Yes, that was a major down point for Holyflare. Especially given that the response to the "slip" by ET was spoilered. I literally just told you i spoiler long quotes or cases. | ||
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What i also want to point out is: what i wanted to say was at the bottom of the quote. Does that not look like a formatting error to you? | ||
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Format will be terrible because phone but hopefully effort will shine through: Onegu All game he has done nothing but state things. No cases, reads based off of nothing, i can't comprehend why you see him as town. Firstly, let's start right back at the start of the game. All of onegu's first few posts are based in him telling us he is catching up - will catch up etc etc. While this is not alignment indicative there are certain tells that make him scum. Take for instance :+ Show Spoiler + On October 18 2013 18:22 Onegu wrote: Lol you got me, sorry about that. But for realz you going on about setup speculation and how there are going to be many power roles because it is a themed game is just like you are backpeddleing from a slip and the onlything you have to go on is speculation. This is his first real interaction with ET. Bear in mind that at this point ET had made a case on onegu for saying sorry a lot, which he dignified with a 1-2 line response and the rest of it was throwing in town reads. At this point ET has straight up voted for onegu and his only reply is to respond to ET speculation. Nothing about his case, no content, nothing. This is because he knows the pressure is fake and won't need to back it up. Not to mention he is only piggybacking off of rayn/koshis post adding nothing new. Why would you not try and actively disuade pressure from yourself? Compare this to his game where he is town. People make cases on Onegu and he fights, trying to determine motives, trying to establish reads for other townies to see and constructing posts that are helpful to read + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2013 14:57 Onegu wrote: So Im in the hospital now so this will be brief, I should be out tomorrow but not sure. So the two biggest things that stuck out to me. Im not really up for a yamato lynch. Have to go over his filter again but why wouldnt we lynch the other scummy person in sn0? Second we need to take a closer look at firmtofu there are a few reasons for this. This post is a big reason, why would you ever ignore a red check? If we just ignore it there will always talk about it, or it will come back, makeing a even bigger waste of time. He should be vig shot or lynched otherwise town atmosphre will be completely destroyed. My scum games I am very active vayne made a post about its so much easier to play when you know everything. Firm knows this. I like this post alot makes me feel better about crazy. Anyway my pain meds are kicking in. So Im out for now. He states reasons, he backs up reads, he does stuff that is useful. Now look at this game. His culmination of day 1 is displaying his town reads. He votes mattchew early because of 1 case of his even though he says: On October 19 2013 04:49 Onegu wrote: Im fighting the internet gods now so going to put a vote down on mattchew as of page 58 where I am he never answered my question to him and his vote was random with very little reasoning ##VOTE MATTCHEW There is so little basis for this it dumbfounds me. He switches after I make a case on matt so that means he follows it right? He must think reasoning is solid and he votes after mocsta. However if he thinks mattchew is scum, where does his incredibly adamant scum read on me come from? Let's get to the bottom of this. We saw Onegu's town post, he constructs thoughts when he can of who is scum, he actively tries to say why and come up with reasons. Does that occur in this thread? He briefly questions storr on matt asking things like: Why is matt town to you? How are you sure matt is town. He never questions anything else to do with hufflepuff other than my vote on mattchew. After this it becomes: On October 22 2013 02:13 Onegu wrote: ##UNVOTE ##VOTE BH Stutters is around and will give CR a chance to post or get modkilled. With no reasoning and then with the post straight after: On October 22 2013 02:49 Onegu wrote: ##UNVOTE ##VOTE CHAIRMANRAY With no reasoning again. This is very unlike town onegus posts from his filters in other games. This is pretty much the only interaction I've had with onegu all game at this point: + Show Spoiler + On October 21 2013 03:28 Onegu wrote: In that order with how much space in between? Is it close between all three or what? I'm glad he can get a read off of all this interaction because seemingly at this point half of the thread said i was towny. He must have mystical powers. Not to mention he makes a post identical to this straight after. His scum read on me stems from here. That is why ot is not logical. Currently I had pushed a case n mattchew (his top scum read) abd bh (his second scum read) so what reasoning does he give for his scum read on me? Oh yeh, none, like the rest of his content this game. This is a recurring theme in his filter that just isn't consistent with townish onegu. On October 22 2013 18:36 Onegu wrote: Im going to filter JAT and skan tonight as I dont have a food read on either of them at this point. He posts that he will read and then just self confirms in the hope that someone will believe he has read through: On October 23 2013 00:53 Onegu wrote: You guys have any questions for me? I just finished reading JAT I doubt he is scum, going to go over skanjabs now. Despite all of this unnecessary setup speculation (thought he hated that when he said it to ET) mocsta shuts him down with logic + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2013 15:57 Onegu wrote: Alright Ill drop it for now, can lynch HF or CR tomorrow. So he replies with whatever the shit he wants - an unsubstantiated claim on me or on CR. Despite the facts checks at this point can be seen to most probably tampered with. He doesn't care he'll vote whatever because it doesn't matter and he doesn't need a reason. Now if his play wasn't questionable enough for you there is this: + Show Spoiler + On October 28 2013 23:30 Onegu wrote: He is saying if bh is scum he has to say he protects sn0 if sn0 still dies BH confirmed scum... Then i get into a confrontation with him because of his claim. It's dumb and now that I've reread it i have found out he was in fact quite categorically lying. We'll get to that in a second though: + Show Spoiler + After everything i said he ignores it all and writes 1 line about it which doesn't address anything I've written bar 1 oversight. However, apart from his replies being incredibly lackluster like most of his game there was the dispute on why somebody would frame chairman ray that night. Clearly at that point mocsta was a revealed town pandain abd hopeless was questionable but with 1 cop check that he used. So why on earth would a framer if there is one target ray if nothing was said about cephiro. Quite clearly scum knows a house cop is dead, there is one vig who did not reveal till the grace period of the next day that he was a joat and there was syllo who had a watcher ability from the night befoere. There is no way scum would use a frame on ray at this point. Syllos lower is too dangerous because townies would just claim they visited that night and confirm syllos count. Thus leaving an odd count if someone didn't reveal. That risk is way too high. Not only that but that risk is doubly amplified by somebody going to kill onegu for the same reason. That night sn0 could not protect bh , so why didn't sn0 or bh die? Why would they not use their 1kp on free healer kills, 1)because bh is mafia, 2)because bh was rbd, 3)because they have 1kp any free healer kill is a no brainer over an unconfirmed role from onegu. There is nowl justification anyone can make to say otherwise. He was forced to claim vet at this time to draw suspicion off of bh because no kill occured, bh was unprotected and a free kill. The fact he didn't die was way too suspicous. Finally, as bh is a no brainer lynch onegu becomes very aprehensive and doesn't vote him at all but wheb it all piles onto me he does his trademark vote with no reason On October 29 2013 23:56 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE: HOLYFLARE Onegu, bh scum team gg. Yes this badly laid out, i have a tiny box on my phone to read from. | ||
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On October 30 2013 15:01 syllogism wrote: It's not the only strong point against him. See e.g. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20022026 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20022049 Whenever I read that day 1 post from him I keep concluding that there is no way a townie would make a post like that. Besides what I stated in those posts, look at what he is saying. He is suggesting that town is, 24 hours into day 1, lacking direction and he has to give it some. The direction he offers is 100% repackaged content and wants to lynch Palmar ridiculous reasons. Look at his "case" against Palmar - does it look like a lynch you should be "MOST comfortable with" and would that be the kind of direction town desperately needs. Nowhere does he even say that Palmar's play makes him mafia and in fact he suggests that Palmar playing more would help town. None of it is repackaged, i fully stated that is was lurker policy lynching thrown in, i added that it could change based on future posting. I have 20+ pages of filter and the only posts you can point out are those, you are total garbage my friend. I quite clearly answered you coherently and sensibly and that is why you dropped that previous line of nonsense here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=94#1861 If you are going to pretty much afk the game and only come back and vote me because of the wording of my role that's fine. But do not make it seem like you are putting effort in by rehashing a past resolved post. Thwt is really bad play. | ||
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On October 30 2013 15:57 syllogism wrote: I'm sorry, quoting my own posts is not repackaging and the context is not the same as all as you were claiming to be giving town direction it desperately needed when all you did it was repeat what had been said before and presented a policy or a lurker lynch as the road map to winning the game. Again, I'm not going to discuss this any further with you as I'm not trying to convince you of anything. It's ridiculous because A) one of the people i mentioned got policy lynched anyway B) stutters case made sense C) sn0 had content that looked fishy If 2 out of the 3 people i made a case in got lybched during the course of the game, that's totally an irrelevant case basis in the first 24 hours of the game isn't it. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=94#1861 Just gonna link that till people realise you make no sense. | ||
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