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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:33 GMT
#4811
feel free to read my filter
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:35 GMT
#4812
##vote: 24hr cycle
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:36 GMT
#4813
On October 29 2013 08:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 08:29 Mocsta wrote:
##vote: hopeless1der

guy has completely ignored everything I wrote.
gtfo scum

My role will self confirm. You gtfo.

by self confirm, I gather you mean: scum claim
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:41 GMT
#4815
hopeless,

stop pretending you are on a high horse.
it is not even a baby pony.



you were already ignoring me. plain and simple. you will be lynched this cycle. mark my words.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:42 GMT
#4816
and quit with the appeal to hosts

very poor gamesmanship
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:55 GMT
#4821
On October 29 2013 08:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't dived into Hopeless' filter yet and I am starting to consider the possibility that the hosts gave scum a role that would ordinarily be perceived as pro-town, but voting him solely for using his power on JAT is silly. He said he had to use each power once before he is able to use one twice.

It is nothing to do with the role use on jat.

Even now he is claiming that because all his potions are used he becomes confirmed town. We already had a role similar to that with storrzerg, an absolutely awesome role.

I assume you read nothing I wrote on hopeless during the night. Is this true?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 28 2013 23:59 GMT
#4823
Ok. When I get comp.access later I will muster town onto hopeless
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 00:15 GMT
#4825
On October 29 2013 09:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mocsta, do you think SCUM would have ALIGNMENT checks? Based on the pm from drinking amortentia, do you think the pm for veritaserum would specify the type of check (eg alignment or role or name)? Do you think my role can self confirm in this manner?

1. I thought you used the check potion on yourself. So the outcome is non verifiable.

2. Amortization potion was as you described, as was syllo potion.
Why is this meaningful? There were many reasons for scum to give those potions to town.
And my judgement on you is based on overall play, not your potions.


3. You have provided zero detail to how you wills self confirm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 01:02 GMT
#4828
1. Are you suggesting that you had two alignment chcks?
If so, is there an order to how you release potions?

2. You keep wanting to prove your alignment through use of your role. I keep telling you that my issue is with how you have gone about playing the game..
Specifically the lack of what you have pushed;
The timing of your interjections;
Your reactions to majir thread items;
And;
Your explanation for role usage.

Next you are going to tell me that you played intentionally scummy like cephiro.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 01:34 GMT
#4831
Good for you hopeless
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 03:08 GMT
#4838
On October 29 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh Mocsta what was your night action. Did you misdirect?
I did not. I used Lumos.
So still have 2x protects, 2x redirects. I plan to use the redirects when 1 scum is left to win the game.

Regarding the read into Rayn: I don't object to you doing this.
In my opinion though, I think Rayn is better left as a candidate for the third and final scum.

Todays lynch most likely needs to be between

Onegu
Hopeless1der
Blazinghand
Skanjab



Skanjab
It makes no sense to me why he refuses to claim.
I could consider policy lynching him this cycle whilst we still maintain a numerical advantage.
Hes a dark horse: difficult to read, doesn't want to interact with the thread, and I am not certain he will vote with the thread.

If we want to get rid of drift wood, this is probably our only cycle left.

Hopeless1der
I wanted to lynch him as he was my strongest read.
I was hoping for some thread feedback as I am not sure if tunneled - never got it.
Holy raises a fair point though with BH

Blazinghand
Every cycle I keep wanting to lynch zaragon/Blazinghand, but, for whatever reason I can't compel myself to do it - I think I am scarred from mislynching two town doctors last game.
Perhaps why I RB him but not vote.
He clearly doesn't give a shit about the game; doesn't have an excuse for the RB or misdirect and probably is the best lynch this cycle.

Onegu
I'm not seeing him as scum.
If he is, well done, not that my reads have been perfect, but hes completely fooled me.
In my opinion, his only questionable item is the Vet Claim; which is not specific to just him.


##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 03:27 GMT
#4840
Holyflare

Look at these series of quotes


Exhibit A
On October 17 2013 23:52 Pandain wrote:
Heck a player doesn't even have to play to his meta, it's honestly only a slight tell at best.

Meta is way over used in lynches.

Exhibit B
On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:

What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career.
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy.

This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms.
On October 17 2013 23:54 Pandain wrote:
Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches?

Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change?

Why are you voting him, is it just for that.

Exhibit C
On October 17 2013 23:54 LastArgument wrote:
I suggest you read my filter.
On October 17 2013 23:59 Pandain wrote:
Well if you want to convince me to vote for him, then lay it on the line. I only see that you think he should always value suspicions over policy lynches.



This series of posts is all related to an exchange between LastArgument and Hopeless1der because Hopeless1der proposed a policy lynch on Mattchew. LA provided quotes detailing in the past a town Hopeless is against policy lynching.

Facts
(1) Mattchew was town
(2) LastArgument was town
(3) Pandain was scum
(4) Pandain proposes a lynch on Mattchew before this exchange.

Please explain to me the scum motivation for Pandain to repeatedly butt heads with LastArgument and try to discredit his argument.
Please consider that in these exchanges:
Pandain makes zero effort to steer the lynch to someone else; rather,
he is purely laying out a defense for an unflipped player.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 04:50 GMT
#4844
I want skanjab voted off the island

Yes, skanjab instead of bh or hopeless
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 05:01 GMT
#4845
Actually with those quotes before. Hopeless was policy lynching vayne not mattchew
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 05:24 GMT
#4847
On October 29 2013 14:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
How many people visited your house?


Y
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 05:45 GMT
#4849
On October 29 201are wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 14:24 Mocsta wrote:
On October 29 2013 14:21 Holyflare wrote:
On October 29 2013 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
How many people visited your house?


Y


Are you asking me why or are you not going to tell?

Both.

I will tell just later on.
Im still doing my read through.

I keep coming today to skanjab being scum as 3rd.
Mainly that scum went after the people that attacked skanjab (toad and rayn) whilst giving ska jab a town read.
It's odd and ties in with the whole ... Why are scum posting right now.. motivations I discussed earlier with hopeless.


To be honest, my weakest lean right now with only partial reread is bh, but the Sno kill looks pretty bad. Especially with no rb or save notification.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 06:05 GMT
#4852
On October 29 2013 14:51 Onegu wrote:
Dit JAT or syllo do anything to BH? If not then we should lynch him. I would be ok with a Holyflare lynch also. Skanjab would be a outside shot as he is currently my 3rd scum. I will go over his filter during my sons nap.

I am most certainly not on with a holyflare lynch.

I think he misrepresents you, but I think in no way is he scum. Best answer is tunneled

Day1 his postulations to pandain are very towny.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 06:14 GMT
#4855
On October 29 2013 15:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 23:21 Mocsta wrote:
anyways, I asked my house to make BH a squib. with the challenge potion.

I put down my vote, it not sure if its a house majority thing.



BTW holy. I find it suiper unlikely skanjab is Mafia.


Why have your reads changed so drastically x_x

Instead of reading today from day 2onwards

I reread day1 again.

I just don't like how pandain et went about skanjab.

I also don't like how skanjab questioned zaragon, which toad did a good job of pointing out.
I also don't like how hopeless interacted with skanjab, but this is conjecture so I won't include.


Re reading also reminds me strongly why I thought you were town
Your post style reminds me a lot of me, which is also why I said day1 I agreed with you a lot.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 06:17 GMT
#4856
Also. As much as worst case scenario is that you are an active scum trying to close out this game... The simpler solution is that you are town still trying to figure out this game.

The ppl left that ONLY respond when spoken to are
Bh
Hopeless
Skanjab

This has been the case for several cycles now. They have let town mislynch I to itself. Cycle after cycle.

Onegu is a low poster I admit, but I still find him townier than the above 3
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 29 2013 06:59 GMT
#4857
As an aside, in Noir I believe Rayn started playing a second game and barely posted in Noir (he was scum)
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