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On October 24 2013 08:38 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 07:48 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Especially when you have crumbed your check on D2... *sigh*
-rayn Also for this... I did crumb beforehand who I'd check. I also crumbed the result, but that crumb is so complicated that there is a snowflakes chance in hell anyone finds it out. I'll give a hint though for those who don't think it's bs: Finland. If you find this one out before I claim it tomorrow, I'll be very, very impressed. For now, good night.
On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either: 1) I am no threat to them. 2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them. 3) Have planned something for me later.
Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town.
that's not really breadcrumbing if you come out and say it......
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On October 24 2013 09:42 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game. This is the quote. After this you try to cover it up by saying this: Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 08:22 Grackaroni wrote:On October 23 2013 07:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game. last comment on this game. I have only accused Cephiro and ET on this gme D1. Thank you. -rayn yeah but those are the reads that will show up post game. Not the Day3 reads of Me/JAT/Mattchew which are probably all wrong. The problem is i hadn't given out those reads on you/Matt/JAT before you made the first comment. Therefore you can't possibly say my reads are bad as you did in your first post. TLDR; "rayn's all reads are bad because he asccuses everyone" "i ahve only accused scum if Cephiro is scum" "yeah but these D3 reads are bad" (they were not there when Grack made that argument) -rayn That was my general opinion of your play for every game. You think I'm scum for lying about your reads being bad on flipped scum?
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On October 24 2013 08:56 Grackaroni wrote: [It could be Rayn but I'd honestly just lynch into scan/CR. On October 24 2013 08:57 justanothertownie wrote:Ok... I'm not that against this actually.
I am struggling to reconcile myself with this Cephiro vote. I never thought he was mafia; I thought he was 3rd party. Whereas Syllo seems to think he has potential to be mafia.
Regardless, I am struggling to reconcile because I feel like I am placing a vote on Cephiro due him being an asshole, not necessarily because I think he is our best vote.
Considering Chairman has been non-existent in 48hrs, I am leaning towards moving my vote there quite heavily. I will give him another 4 hrs to post a meaningful contribution, otherwise, I will swap my vote to CR.
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Also judging from today, allthree of those reads are even more likely wrong. Lol.
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Why vote for the guy that will probably get modkilled mocsta?
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So why is everyone wanting to lynch outside me/Cephiro? It's a 50% chance of hitting scum. For Cephiro, if he is town, lynching me would be 100% and he is hesitant to lynch me.. lol..
I do not believe there is a framer. Given that the only check we know of is a house check, which means framer is incredibly powerful, as instead of hitting one person, it hits a most of 6. If a check says "there is X scum in house Y", what happens when there are 3 people left in the house (see our house atm). We lynch one. They turn up town. We lynch another one. They turn up town. The last guy must be scum. They turn up town.
Framer role would be indredibly BS, there is no way there is a framer.
-rayn
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On October 24 2013 09:53 Holyflare wrote: Why vote for the guy that will probably get modkilled mocsta? I didn't contemplate that actually.
BUT..
On October 23 2013 14:00 Chairman Ray wrote: um hi, so I'm kinda surprised to see I didn't get shot. Vig, where are you!
hi
That is his 1 required post / day.
I suppose when I said he hasn't posted in 48hrs, that was technically hyperbole.
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3 cops (we have 3 claimed) without a framer would be BS.
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On October 24 2013 09:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote: So why is everyone wanting to lynch outside me/Cephiro? It's a 50% chance of hitting scum. For Cephiro, if he is town, lynching me would be 100% and he is hesitant to lynch me.. lol..
I do not believe there is a framer. Given that the only check we know of is a house check, which means framer is incredibly powerful, as instead of hitting one person, it hits a most of 6. If a check says "there is X scum in house Y", what happens when there are 3 people left in the house (see our house atm). We lynch one. They turn up town. We lynch another one. They turn up town. The last guy must be scum. They turn up town.
Framer role would be indredibly BS, there is no way there is a framer.
-rayn
That's why there are cop roles to check.
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I also do not believe Cephiro is telling truth about his power. He says he gets more powerful. He has checked me on N1, he has checked Matt on N2. Where is the "getting more powerful" part?
-rayn
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And that's all cephiro has done this game. Zero scumhunting. He's just flip flopping around his role.
-rayn
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Yeh but he has to vote today too and if he does then.... I presume we can lynch him.
and this:
Also, from a framers point of view, why would he frame someone from gryffindor? There was posts from storr in our qt that said he was checking scum in either ravenclaw or slytherin so if there ws mafia in hufflepuff a frame on gryffindor would be really dumb. So either cop flips red and everything makes sense or cop flips green and hufflepuff is less suspicious. Based on this information i think the cephiro lynch is actually quite apt unless he reveals his powers because syllo seems definite mattchew is town/cop even though i don't see it.
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Either the cop is lying and is scum (not likely because of the modkill event) or there are no scum in hufflepuff and the framer made a guess or there are scum in hufflepuff and they are dumb.
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Can I see the rest of the case now Rayn? The thread really seemed to take to the first part. Also, comment on Skanjab1s.
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JAT is vigi and shot lonemeow so he is out of the question right now so that leaves rayn or cephiro, I am much more confident in a cephiro lynch.
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On October 24 2013 10:00 Holyflare wrote: Either the cop is lying and is scum (not likely because of the modkill event) or there are no scum in hufflepuff and the framer made a guess or there are scum in hufflepuff and they are dumb. Or Cephiro is scum and there is no framer and there is scum in hufflepuff?
I agree with your statement on the framer regarding N2. I know that if Cephiro is town, i was not framed on N1. JAT is pretty clearly town as he shot scum. Therefore the only explanation is that Cephiro is scum.
-rayn
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On October 24 2013 10:02 Holyflare wrote: Or there is no framer.
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On October 24 2013 10:03 Grackaroni wrote: Can I see the rest of the case now Rayn? The thread really seemed to take to the first part. Also, comment on Skanjab1s. You use BS reasons to discredit people. You did the exact same thing Golden Sun. You are arrogant and cocky in a different way than you are as town. As i said, i don't need to make a case on you now, we are not lynching you. Why do you want to distract the thread from today's lynch`?
-rayn
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On October 23 2013 08:32 Cephiro wrote:Okay, so I'm caught up. I had originally planned skipping this evening of discussion since I'm really fired up (don't provocate me now.) about a discussion of our classification system in the machine dance gaming organization in Finland. I'll be here for ~30 minutes and I should go to sleep then or I'm going to be sorry for it tomorrow morning. I don't know what to think of this hufflepuff shit anymore. If the claim is true, then we should obviously lynch JAT. (I know myself to be town, I have a greencheck on rayko from N1, which I claimed here: Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either: 1) I am no threat to them. 2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them. 3) Have planned something for me later.
Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town. Based on our discussions in the QT, I'd like to raise the hufflepuffian way of discussion and claim that the check is either bullshit or we've been framed. I do not believe JAT to be scum currently.
That is the post cephiro is referring to for his D3 claim. Find the breadcrumb, get a cookie
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