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On October 22 2013 04:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Stutters:
You claimed to be masoned with LA? That does make you town how?
You have not done anything at all.
-rayn
It doesn't. I even said that when explaining what was going on between him and I.
I've laid out why I think Ceph isn't town and stand by that. And given our considerable lead, if he is 3p (other than survivor, in which case he'd be playing like he was town) any KP is going towards town.
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Blazinghand
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syllo can confirm that he has pot
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On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot
and that confirms alignment how?
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On October 22 2013 04:23 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Stutters:
You claimed to be masoned with LA? That does make you town how?
You have not done anything at all.
-rayn It doesn't. I even said that when explaining what was going on between him and I. I've laid out why I think Ceph isn't town and stand by that. And given our considerable lead, if he is 3p (other than survivor, in which case he'd be playing like he was town) any KP is going towards town.
So did you or did you not read the house QT?
-rayn
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I assume they consider the fact if he gives syllo a untargetability potion, it would confirm him as town.
While I do agree that it is an extremely pro-town move (mainly late-game oriented.), I still don't think it's enough without a few things explained.
Firstly, there was a claim there should be a claim about a potion in the daypost. With this claimed cop-check potion on toad there wasn't. (Which is argued for not being there because Toad died. I guess this could be asked from mods?)
Secondarily, how will we be able to confirm it works as intended?
Thirdly, for all I know he could as well be a scum potionist (inventor?), as well as a joat, or whatever one can think of. I just do not trust him yet at all.
And I'm not sure if that plan will make me trust him either. I feel it still has too many holes in it.
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I mean technically hopeless could be scum tossing around the same potions but giving invincible potion to syllo seems like enough upside for now. Next he can give him "live another 24hrs" potion or w/e lol.
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On October 22 2013 04:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear Chairman Ray: Vote somebody. Stutters would make the most sense.
Dear Town: Stutters kill over CR? I'm down for the swap but we need to be fairly unanimous since Cephiro still has 4 votes for bad reasons.
I just read through his filter. This strikes me the most:
On October 22 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Well after catching up on Ceph and his role, I'm with Mocsta and still think he should be number 1 lynch today. This dude is simply not town.
Gonna go catch up with the other candidates, but I'm still for a Ceph lynch currently.
Two reasons:
1. From of browse of Cephiro's filter, I think Cephiro is null at best. He's not giving me a strong scumread. I doubt that with Stutters' activity, he could have really gotten the strong read that he claimed. I think he's just piggybacking on Mocsta.
2. He still hasn't caught up with the other candidates, despite saying he will
If we're going to be lynching a lurker today, I think he's the best target IMO. I would be willing to vote stutters, but not Cephiro.
##unvote
##vote: stutters695
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Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi.
On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's. That being said i think HF is town. -rayn
On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?
If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)
Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad. Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me. Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!) CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._. not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._. how scummy was yamato before he replaced out? Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.
Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him.
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The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.
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On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot and that confirms alignment how?
it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt?
@Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message"
There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM.
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On October 22 2013 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:Question: What is with the miscommunication between you and Koshi. Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 22 2013 01:06 Mattchew wrote:
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's. That being said i think HF is town. -rayn Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 22 2013 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:On October 22 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:On October 22 2013 03:15 Cephiro wrote:
Why aren't there more votes on Hope?
If I understood correctly, he claims his night 1 action was to put a cop check potion on Toad, and he got no results since toad died and was unable to chug the potion. (Irrelevant anyway due to the flip.)
Does anyone else see this as incredibly coincidental if we had a tracker that was aware of his night actions? I smell an easy lie here. More likely he just went and shot or killed Toad. Yo that aint wat happened. He's making syllo invincible for a day as a check of his claim. If he's lying then we lynch him. For today, I'm letting him slide. Lynching CR seems good to me. Yeah i mean if we plan to have hope and I use our powers, then either a) we've averted some mislynches or b) caught scum when hope or fails to save syllo. I don't think lynching either of us is a good move today (but then again i am a biased source!) CR would basically be a policy lynch on a lurking replacement ._. not sure if I want to encourage that idea ._. how scummy was yamato before he replaced out? Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I. Raynoshi also seems to me to be trying hard to push the lynch away from Yamato while saying they aren't opposed to lynching him.
I dunno. I don't think Holyflare is scum. Apparently Koshi thinks so. We have not discussed our townreads a lot.
We are not pushing CR lynch away. Stutters is a better target imo.
[i]-rayn[/y]
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On October 22 2013 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot and that confirms alignment how? it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt? @Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message" There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM.
If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative
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Well if we confirm that you have the claimed abilities eventually your alignment should become clear.
Meanwhile there are other options for finding scum quite easily.
DEAR HOPELESS VOTE SOMEBODY NOT CEPH thx
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On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.
NK's only. Delays flip for that 24 hours. I'm not sure if the thread is made aware of the death, but the potion drinker will be aware they are set to die.
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On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.
why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo
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On October 22 2013 04:32 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot and that confirms alignment how? it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt? @Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message" There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM. If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative
I know and I agree. However, if you think I am scum, at the very least my powers are being used in the most "protown" fashion. Felix is at least worth the chance of keeping me around a day, isnt it?
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On October 22 2013 04:33 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect. why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo
Because this is not how you design roles. I will keep that in mind if you host a themed game, however.
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On October 22 2013 04:32 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot and that confirms alignment how? it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt? @Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message" There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM. If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative
Maybe. But he still has to do pro town things to stay alive. Sounds fine to me.
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On October 22 2013 04:33 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect. why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo
How? Their vote wouldn't count by the end of the day. The benefit of the ability is to guarantee return checks from night actions and possibly for strong townies to give analysis on new content from other NK's, or even on their OWN death. Its a very pro-town ability.
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