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July617
United States72 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:33 playerboy345 wrote: You are contradicting yourself. First you say you don't want to waste your vote on someone who doesn't post and then you proceed to push for a RANDOM lynch. Alright, allow me to clarify in lamest terms for you. If town lynches a lurker/afk that has not posted at the end of day one. Odds are, is that SAME person will proceed to afk and NOT VOTE (Which is mandatory I might add.) Resulting in a mod-kill. This outcome leads to the ENTIRE TOWN wasting their votes on a lynch that meant LITERALLY NOTHING Why take these odds when you have much better odds with a rng? We can alter rng votes according to what players argue. We can apply pressure to try to flesh of scum on day 1 with these votes. We can move the town in the right direction with these votes. Now please answer me; What the heck do you find scummy about my suggestion? | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:47 Seuss wrote: Odin, you basically have 50% of all posts since the game began. Curb your enthusiasm. I'm just trying to get discussion rolling Monte.. Why are you trying to stop it?  | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I don't think if istandwithmitt was mafia, he would throw his buddy so hard under the bus that hard and that quickly. So just because you think mafia won't bus their teammates means they are guaranteed town? It's thoughts like this that allow mafia to do such things. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:37 Vonthin wrote: He was just saying he disagreed with your methods, he didn't say anywhere(unless I missed something which i don't think i did) that we waste our votes lynching inactive members which you said he did in one of your earlier posts. Both lynching RNG/getting the inactive person is both sorta stupid Ok, sorry. This was my ms-understanding then. I think I've spent enough time defending my position on my recommendation. Hopefully people will get back to me on it. I refuse to set this up/ push for this if people seriously think I'm being scummy for doing it. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:55 OdinOfPergo wrote: Alright, allow me to clarify in lamest terms for you. If town lynches a lurker/afk that has not posted at the end of day one. Odds are, is that SAME person will proceed to afk and NOT VOTE (Which is mandatory I might add.) Resulting in a mod-kill. This outcome leads to the ENTIRE TOWN wasting their votes on a lynch that meant LITERALLY NOTHING Why take these odds when you have much better odds with a rng? We can alter rng votes according to what players argue. We can apply pressure to try to flesh of scum on day 1 with these votes. We can move the town in the right direction with these votes. Now please answer me; What the heck do you find scummy about my suggestion? "We can alter rng votes according to what players argue." would it still be a rng if you alter your vote?  And chill, I never said that your suggestion is scummy. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Makes a good point, but would it really be all that smart for scum to play risky? I don't necessarily agree with his post but I don't see it as scummy. @PLAYERBOI, I was referring to this comment. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:57 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm just trying to get discussion rolling Monte.. Why are you trying to stop it? YES SEUSS WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO STOP IT, ARE YOU SCUM? On a more serious note, please do post your thoughts. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On October 14 2013 17:01 OdinOfPergo wrote: @PLAYERBOI, I was referring to this comment. Wait, where in that post am I reffering to your post as scummy? | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
You brought up something about me not referencing (I'm glad you did now that I re-read.) So I jumped to conclusions. Sorry, like I said, I work really long hours. If I say something retarded; I hope you guys don't write me off for it. But please do allow me a few hours to explain myself. (Because unless I have the following day off I will most likely be asleep before any meaningful convo. takes place.) | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 16:33 playerboy345 wrote: You are contradicting yourself. First you say you don't want to waste your vote on someone who doesn't post and then you proceed to push for a RANDOM lynch. I tried to clear this up. This is what I was talking about Player. If I failed at it, I will try to re-word it so it is easier to understand. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
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E00e
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I think the discussion about a semi random lynch or an afk lynch was somewhat pointless because the day is still early and we might find something else to lynch on. In the rare (?) case that we dont get any information we can argue about that again. On that topic I dont think it is reasonable to immediately vote for SagaZ (who suggested afk lynch first) like istandwithmitt did. I like that GGTeMpLaR started giving thoughts about the players in this game, because ultimately we need to do that to find our lynch target. Something else we could and maybe should discuss is when the Cop should come out. Should they come out after checking X Mafia or Y Town or when they are about to be lynched, etc... We dont need to do that on the first day and I dont want to sidetrack the discussion but it is something to keep in mind for the next day or if we run out of things to talk about. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Give me a few minutes. I'm not too familiar with how to combine quotes in TL foryums (if my post count wasn't enough to give me away HAHA hehe )But I'll try to string it together the best I can. Rough ETA probably 20 mins. | ||
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July617
United States72 Posts
On October 14 2013 17:19 E00e wrote: Hello everyone, my first post! I think the discussion about a semi random lynch or an afk lynch was somewhat pointless because the day is still early and we might find something else to lynch on. In the rare (?) case that we dont get any information we can argue about that again. On that topic I dont think it is reasonable to immediately vote for SagaZ (who suggested afk lynch first) like istandwithmitt did. I like that GGTeMpLaR started giving thoughts about the players in this game, because ultimately we need to do that to find our lynch target. Something else we could and maybe should discuss is when the Cop should come out. Should they come out after checking X Mafia or Y Town or when they are about to be lynched, etc... We dont need to do that on the first day and I dont want to sidetrack the discussion but it is something to keep in mind for the next day or if we run out of things to talk about. I dont think anyone is sidetracked, I just think we need to talk more so we can get idea's of the active players and a direction in which to go towards . Preferably a sane one. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On October 14 2013 17:19 E00e wrote: Hello everyone, my first post! I think the discussion about a semi random lynch or an afk lynch was somewhat pointless because the day is still early and we might find something else to lynch on. In the rare (?) case that we dont get any information we can argue about that again. On that topic I dont think it is reasonable to immediately vote for SagaZ (who suggested afk lynch first) like istandwithmitt did. I like that GGTeMpLaR started giving thoughts about the players in this game, because ultimately we need to do that to find our lynch target. Something else we could and maybe should discuss is when the Cop should come out. Should they come out after checking X Mafia or Y Town or when they are about to be lynched, etc... We dont need to do that on the first day and I dont want to sidetrack the discussion but it is something to keep in mind for the next day or if we run out of things to talk about. No the discussion isn't pointless - it forces people to talk which is a good thing. And going ballsdeep on SagaZ AND istandwith mitt.... Dude I can't even be bothered to mention the last paragraph: ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 15:52 OdinOfPergo wrote: Well, I read through my last post, And then decide how bad that thought is. Judging by what you just said July, a 100% GUESS at a "afk lynch" is better than a 40% chance to land a scrum roll on the first day within the first 4 hours. My only question is; Are you being serious right now? Because trying to throw off town that hard would seem pretty scummy to me. I'll hold my vote for 2 hours for you to respond. After that I will have to start thinking about going to sleep since I have to work real early. I'm already staying up late for this. My pre-arguement on why we should do this instead of "Silence" or "afk" lynch. ou're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum? Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me . July's response to me. This is stupid, because you are trading chance to lynch (All-be-it 4 to 6), For a 100% guess. Setting up an RNG to lynch someone is really stupid, especially with those odds plus it also takes away the fun/skill of the game. Also seems silly to be talking about an afk lynch when the game literally just started, would rather vote for someone suspicious looking like SagaZ who was so quick to start talking about lynching people minutes after the game started. Vonthin supports this view point. Which makes me wonder about him too. Why would people freak about about of 4-6 chance when they are willing to jump on a 1-10? Nothing adds up right now. So now you join in. On October 14 2013 16:24 playerboy345 wrote: Agree with this post 100%. We have to keep people talking and find oddities, it's our best chance at catching scum (and something they say might bite them in their ass later). You jump in supporting my suggestion. On October 14 2013 14:38 istandwithmitt wrote: ##vote: SagaZ Lynching lurkers gives us no information for future days & keeps scum from having to lay down a real vote. The way he's trying to guide the town is really scummy too & makes him look town without contributing anything. Well, see ya That is a ballsy move, what makes you think it's a good idea to go ballsdeep on him because of his ONE post?[/QUOTE] Again we agree. On October 14 2013 15:29 July617 wrote: You're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum? Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me . Makes a good point, but would it really be all that smart for scum to play risky? I don't necessarily agree with his post but I don't see it as scummy. [/QUOTE] This is where you lose me. They are trying to call me out for my RNG. But what better plan are they suggesting? Because alls I've heard to this point is "lynch afk". Which, most likely, means we waste our votes on someone who is going to get mod-killed/replaced the following morning. Describe in detail if I have not followed peoples logic soundly. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I do not think our cop role-claiming would be a good move at this point. The scum already know one of our roles and we don't want to add to that. I'd much prefer to gather intel. from him first. If he just points us in the right direction without giving himself away in the first few days... Well, honestly, I'll be ecstatic. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On October 14 2013 17:00 playerboy345 wrote: "We can alter rng votes according to what players argue." would it still be a rng if you alter your vote? And chill, I never said that your suggestion is scummy. I am a bit confused by this post. From what I can get.. "Would I support a RNG if it pointed vs myself?" Simple answer is no. This method only for sure works if you roll town. It works more efficiently the more players you can for sure eliminate from scum. | ||
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