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Play nice, Holyflare, or I'll have to spank you.
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Leave innocent holyflare alone, rayn.
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On October 03 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok HF is like confirmed town. Cool shit.
Rayn, it is a random lynch.
No it's not. It is not. If you know the target before you say if you agree/not with a random lynch it's no more a random lynch. I was about to tell you you're being silly, then I suddenly understood what you meant. The fact that I was confused for a moment suggests to me that there isn't that much to be made of the point, though. Now do you think Blazinghand is stupid enough to not know this in the first place? As he proposed the shit.
I don't think that much of it. It *is* a conversation starter, and what was the agenda? Random lynches never go through.
Generally I find random lynch stuff really null, because I never really get any decent reads out of either the proposer or the followers.
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On October 03 2013 21:52 marvellosity wrote:
Play nice, Holyflare, or I'll have to spank you.
It would be different if a guy that said he has read the thread and then made a list post only to question things that have already been answered didn't say these things.
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On October 03 2013 21:50 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
Also, as it progressed I kept it on oats because his play was tunneled and did not bother with questioning other people. So what did you expect Oats to do when people in thread were you, BH and him (and to some extent Risen)? How was his play tunneled? Have you read this shit? I've made at least 1-2 cases on oats that explained all this. You aren't helping my view of you. Your cases were bad. Now, again, how was Oats' play tunneled and what he should have done instead of trying to figure out people's alignment that were actually posting at that time? Then you've read jack shit. Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? My case before all these things said things similar to all this. Please don't insult things you haven't been bothered to actually read.
On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum?
Oats saying "stop posting long posts" is not alignment indicative. Oats gave his thoughts on you/BH/Risen during the rng shit. So the rest of your post is incorrect. There was nothing else to figure out at that time.
On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".?
If you do something scummy people think you are scum. What's wrong with that regardless if you are noob or not?
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Anyway, enough with this crap. What do you guys think of my points and specifically Sloosh? Is he the most scumlike based on his overly defensive nature on people? Or are you still thinking on a Dirkzor vote?
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On October 03 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:50 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
Also, as it progressed I kept it on oats because his play was tunneled and did not bother with questioning other people. So what did you expect Oats to do when people in thread were you, BH and him (and to some extent Risen)? How was his play tunneled? Have you read this shit? I've made at least 1-2 cases on oats that explained all this. You aren't helping my view of you. Your cases were bad. Now, again, how was Oats' play tunneled and what he should have done instead of trying to figure out people's alignment that were actually posting at that time? Then you've read jack shit. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? My case before all these things said things similar to all this. Please don't insult things you haven't been bothered to actually read. Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? Oats saying "stop posting long posts" is not alignment indicative. Oats gave his thoughts on you/BH/Risen during the rng shit. So the rest of your post is incorrect. There was nothing else to figure out at that time. Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? If you do something scummy people think you are scum. What's wrong with that regardless if you are noob or not?
My post explains why I don't think oats is scummy anymore, my vote isn't even on him anymore. There are far more scummy people to look at. Why are we still talking about oats?
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On October 03 2013 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway, enough with this crap. What do you guys think of my points and specifically Sloosh? Is he the most scumlike based on his overly defensive nature on people? Or are you still thinking on a Dirkzor vote?
Honestly I'm waiting on answers for them both.
When I re-read slOosh's filter earlier I don't know how I came to the conclusion at the time of posting that his posting felt townie, because it didn't really.
Other than what was said, I don't like at all how he left the Risen situation open-ended and left me/others to comment on it.
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On October 03 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok HF is like confirmed town. Cool shit.
Rayn, it is a random lynch.
No it's not. It is not. If you know the target before you say if you agree/not with a random lynch it's no more a random lynch. I was about to tell you you're being silly, then I suddenly understood what you meant. The fact that I was confused for a moment suggests to me that there isn't that much to be made of the point, though. Now do you think Blazinghand is stupid enough to not know this in the first place? As he proposed the shit. I don't think that much of it. It *is* a conversation starter, and what was the agenda? Random lynches never go through. Generally I find random lynch stuff really null, because I never really get any decent reads out of either the proposer or the followers.
You know, to me it did not look like a conversation starter. BH never said it was, at least before someone else (Clarity) said so. To me it looked more like "let's gun for Oats as he was randomed" and then BH developed a shit read on Oats.
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On October 03 2013 21:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:50 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
Also, as it progressed I kept it on oats because his play was tunneled and did not bother with questioning other people. So what did you expect Oats to do when people in thread were you, BH and him (and to some extent Risen)? How was his play tunneled? Have you read this shit? I've made at least 1-2 cases on oats that explained all this. You aren't helping my view of you. Your cases were bad. Now, again, how was Oats' play tunneled and what he should have done instead of trying to figure out people's alignment that were actually posting at that time? Then you've read jack shit. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? My case before all these things said things similar to all this. Please don't insult things you haven't been bothered to actually read. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? Oats saying "stop posting long posts" is not alignment indicative. Oats gave his thoughts on you/BH/Risen during the rng shit. So the rest of your post is incorrect. There was nothing else to figure out at that time. On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? If you do something scummy people think you are scum. What's wrong with that regardless if you are noob or not? My post explains why I don't think oats is scummy anymore, my vote isn't even on him anymore. There are far more scummy people to look at. Why are we still talking about oats?
lol. Because you voted for him with shitty reasons. And because you defended your shitty cases on him. I am not talking about Oats here, i am talking about you. Why are you turning this into "talking about Oats" when it's clearly not what it is?
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On October 03 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok HF is like confirmed town. Cool shit.
Rayn, it is a random lynch.
No it's not. It is not. If you know the target before you say if you agree/not with a random lynch it's no more a random lynch. I was about to tell you you're being silly, then I suddenly understood what you meant. The fact that I was confused for a moment suggests to me that there isn't that much to be made of the point, though. Now do you think Blazinghand is stupid enough to not know this in the first place? As he proposed the shit. I don't think that much of it. It *is* a conversation starter, and what was the agenda? Random lynches never go through. Generally I find random lynch stuff really null, because I never really get any decent reads out of either the proposer or the followers. You know, to me it did not look like a conversation starter. BH never said it was, at least before someone else (Clarity) said so. To me it looked more like "let's gun for Oats as he was randomed" and then BH developed a shit read on Oats.
Same difference imo.
A game I have in mind while thinking about this is Rockband. BH effectively fabricated a case on prplhz right out the gate, together with weird meta arguments, and it was all ridiculously much. It got the game going (even though the case was a total stretch) and BH was town.
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rayn, why are you going after Holy now when you've shown no incliniation to go after him before he came back to the thread?
I don't understand.
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On October 03 2013 22:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok HF is like confirmed town. Cool shit.
Rayn, it is a random lynch.
No it's not. It is not. If you know the target before you say if you agree/not with a random lynch it's no more a random lynch. I was about to tell you you're being silly, then I suddenly understood what you meant. The fact that I was confused for a moment suggests to me that there isn't that much to be made of the point, though. Now do you think Blazinghand is stupid enough to not know this in the first place? As he proposed the shit. I don't think that much of it. It *is* a conversation starter, and what was the agenda? Random lynches never go through. Generally I find random lynch stuff really null, because I never really get any decent reads out of either the proposer or the followers. You know, to me it did not look like a conversation starter. BH never said it was, at least before someone else (Clarity) said so. To me it looked more like "let's gun for Oats as he was randomed" and then BH developed a shit read on Oats. Same difference imo. A game I have in mind while thinking about this is Rockband. BH effectively fabricated a case on prplhz right out the gate, together with weird meta arguments, and it was all ridiculously much. It got the game going (even though the case was a total stretch) and BH was town.
Yeah i know what you are saying. I am not arguing about if it started conversation or not, as it did, and it has produced a lot of content.
My main point is that during the argument both BH and HF attacked Oats for reasons i think are shit.
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On October 03 2013 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, why are you going after Holy now when you've shown no incliniation to go after him before he came back to the thread?
I don't understand.
Because i tend to interact with people who are in thread. I'm impatient to wait for answers for hours, i have a train of thought and i want to disclose it with quick back and forth discussion. That's what i always do.
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On October 03 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:56 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:50 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
Also, as it progressed I kept it on oats because his play was tunneled and did not bother with questioning other people. So what did you expect Oats to do when people in thread were you, BH and him (and to some extent Risen)? How was his play tunneled? Have you read this shit? I've made at least 1-2 cases on oats that explained all this. You aren't helping my view of you. Your cases were bad. Now, again, how was Oats' play tunneled and what he should have done instead of trying to figure out people's alignment that were actually posting at that time? Then you've read jack shit. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? My case before all these things said things similar to all this. Please don't insult things you haven't been bothered to actually read. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? Oats saying "stop posting long posts" is not alignment indicative. Oats gave his thoughts on you/BH/Risen during the rng shit. So the rest of your post is incorrect. There was nothing else to figure out at that time. On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? If you do something scummy people think you are scum. What's wrong with that regardless if you are noob or not? My post explains why I don't think oats is scummy anymore, my vote isn't even on him anymore. There are far more scummy people to look at. Why are we still talking about oats? lol. Because you voted for him with shitty reasons. And because you defended your shitty cases on him. I am not talking about Oats here, i am talking about you. Why are you turning this into "talking about Oats" when it's clearly not what it is?
I posted something that people jumped on, I explained why, no matter how I explained things he didn't post anything other than "i know he's scum", what's more to add, this was all in the first few hours of the game. So much has happened since then. There are people on your list that are scummy for things they have done that you are not discussing and you are picking up on something that happened in the first 6 hours.
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On October 03 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, why are you going after Holy now when you've shown no incliniation to go after him before he came back to the thread?
I don't understand. Because i tend to interact with people who are in thread. I'm impatient to wait for answers for hours, i have a train of thought and i want to disclose it with quick back and forth discussion. That's what i always do.
Maybe, but you still showed absolutely no issue with Holy's previous posting before this, and now suddenly it's a massive issue.
I'm not understanding the two together.
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On October 03 2013 22:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:56 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:50 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:48 Holyflare wrote:On October 03 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
Also, as it progressed I kept it on oats because his play was tunneled and did not bother with questioning other people. So what did you expect Oats to do when people in thread were you, BH and him (and to some extent Risen)? How was his play tunneled? Have you read this shit? I've made at least 1-2 cases on oats that explained all this. You aren't helping my view of you. Your cases were bad. Now, again, how was Oats' play tunneled and what he should have done instead of trying to figure out people's alignment that were actually posting at that time? Then you've read jack shit. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? My case before all these things said things similar to all this. Please don't insult things you haven't been bothered to actually read. On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? Oats saying "stop posting long posts" is not alignment indicative. Oats gave his thoughts on you/BH/Risen during the rng shit. So the rest of your post is incorrect. There was nothing else to figure out at that time. On October 02 2013 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
The fact you can't just click my profile (you can even see my post count??) and see that I've only been in newbie games is just more testament to your alignment. Shouldn't you be discerning these answers before you know that "He's surely scum".? If you do something scummy people think you are scum. What's wrong with that regardless if you are noob or not? My post explains why I don't think oats is scummy anymore, my vote isn't even on him anymore. There are far more scummy people to look at. Why are we still talking about oats? lol. Because you voted for him with shitty reasons. And because you defended your shitty cases on him. I am not talking about Oats here, i am talking about you. Why are you turning this into "talking about Oats" when it's clearly not what it is? I posted something that people jumped on, I explained why, no matter how I explained things he didn't post anything other than "i know he's scum", what's more to add, this was all in the first few hours of the game. So much has happened since then. There are people on your list that are scummy for things they have done that you are not discussing and you are picking up on something that happened in the first 6 hours.
I am picking it up because you are here, Sloosh, Dirk, etc are not. They are things that bother me in you.
I don't see what's wrong in this?
Also could you answer my question in my last post?
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On October 03 2013 22:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, why are you going after Holy now when you've shown no incliniation to go after him before he came back to the thread?
I don't understand. Because i tend to interact with people who are in thread. I'm impatient to wait for answers for hours, i have a train of thought and i want to disclose it with quick back and forth discussion. That's what i always do. Maybe, but you still showed absolutely no issue with Holy's previous posting before this, and now suddenly it's a massive issue. I'm not understanding the two together.
Did you even read my post when i got here today? I explain my issues with HF in that post, which is exactly what i am talking about now..
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On October 03 2013 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 22:04 marvellosity wrote:On October 03 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2013 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, why are you going after Holy now when you've shown no incliniation to go after him before he came back to the thread?
I don't understand. Because i tend to interact with people who are in thread. I'm impatient to wait for answers for hours, i have a train of thought and i want to disclose it with quick back and forth discussion. That's what i always do. Maybe, but you still showed absolutely no issue with Holy's previous posting before this, and now suddenly it's a massive issue. I'm not understanding the two together. Did you even read my post when i got here today? I explain my issues with HF in that post, which is exactly what i am talking about now..
I did, but maybe I'm being stupid and forgetting. I'll check. My apologies if so.
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Hmm. meh. I only semi-retract, still seems odd. Maybe it's just rayn-odd though. Carry on I guess?
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