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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:11 GMT
#581
shh.. marv. You'll hear the conclusions when i am done.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 03 2013 13:11 GMT
#582
Man Im so copying marv's classy response when people ask me if I read the thread.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:11 GMT
#583
It's also good that if you can't see what i am doing it makes this even better.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 03 2013 13:15 GMT
#584
On October 03 2013 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 20:51 Dirkzor wrote:
I am at work now so this will be fast.

I never did a 180. I still think some of his post are more for show then for real scumhunting (like the post I linked that you quoted). What changed was my belief of him being unoriginal and sheeping BH.
The 2nd post you are quoting are during the process of comparing..


I presume this is in reply to Oats' post. What comparing are you talking about exactly?

Still at work don't know If i'll get through the entire thread so I'll post as I go along.

I make my initial post in HF. Then marv post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2013 18:55 marvellosity wrote:
Ok now I read it. He provides two quotes as contextual evidence for his non-read on Oats, and none with his scumread on Holyflare. Seems like my vote is quite good.

I see the truth that I really didn't give it any context or quotes so I go back to find it. That means I have to dig in his filter and compare that to BH to find where he was sheeping. While doing that marv post:
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On October 02 2013 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
HF has tried harder than most other people in the game and at the very least has been active and the centre of attention. He felt quite town reading through to me.

A vote on him feels pretty opportunistic coming in to the thread when you did.

Especially with the line "and he hasn't really done anything" - that's a bit rich.


As an answer to that I make the 2nd post oats quoted. This: (which I btw still think is correct to some extend as I wrote later on with his big post with no punch or vote attached)
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On October 02 2013 19:10 Dirkzor wrote:
Yes he have been posting, but when I read it I don't really see any meat. Might just be me but that's how I see it. Some of his posts seems to be just for the sake of posting.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2013 12:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 02 2013 12:48 Holyflare wrote:
Risen, in a game of 9 players in which I know nothing about any of the players there is no better system to accept straight off than RNG. Obviously there are ways to get my attention drawn to other people, however, in a 'world heavyweight championship' as you so lovingly pointed out, is it really going to be that obvious when people screw up? I think not. Like I said in my original post, however, I am open to peoples opinions on other players.

except that we have 48 hours to find scum and its only 2/9 chance that we get scum. And probably another 4/9 that we hit an obvious townie that is obvious town after 48 hours. Now its not so useful is it?


Do you even read what is posted?

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On October 02 2013 12:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Also to all the RNG doubters: RNG has a 2/7 chance of hitting scum today! Not 2/9 as you might think. Why is that?

Well, first off, I'm talking to people who aren't Oats and are town. You personally know that of the 8 non-you players, 2 are scum. So you'd think it would be a 2/8 chance of an RNG hitting scum. Pretty lame right? WRONG. If the RNG is on the doctor and the lynch starts to gather steam, he'll surely claim. This means that the doctor isn't even in the lynch pool, and we can roll again for a new RNG. this means we can discount one town player from our odds, meaning that you have a 2/7 (over 30%!) chance of lynching scum with RNG!


On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum?



When I read through his filter it feels clinicly clean. Don't know how to describe it really... it like trying to get rotten wood look fresh on the surface.

Thats what I mean about the 2nd post was while I was comparing.

On October 03 2013 20:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dirkzor, ok the point isnt that you 180ed, the point is that you backed off of your read and found actually a lot of evidence for HF to be town, but very little for him to be scum. Which begs the question, why did you even have a scumread on him in the first place?


If the point isnt that I did an 180, why do you keep bringing it up as the reason I'm scummy? I think I've explained why I found in scummy in the first place.

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On October 03 2013 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nope that 180 for Dirkzor still the scummiest thing in the thread.

On October 03 2013 19:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dirkzor, how do you 180 after reading the same filter twice?

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:17 GMT
#585
Dirkzor why didn't you vote for Sloosh or me in the first place if you found us scummy and HF not?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 03 2013 13:17 GMT
#586
180 = exaggeration.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 03 2013 13:18 GMT
#587
And I 100% do not understand what you just said above.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 13:18 GMT
#588
Dirk, I think my biggest issue is that you say

his filter feels clinically clean

then later repeatedly say that it was just a feel post. How can it just be feel if you'd been spending time in his filter? arrrrrrg.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:22 GMT
#589
Hey Holyflare where did you go?
Why do you feel like i am talking about Oats when i am clearly not?
Also do you think your case on him was good or not?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 13:23 GMT
#590
This game is hard. I really want to lynch mafia today :/

Dirk thing is tearing me apart because it all reads as so fucking scummy and twisty, but at the same time I "believe" what he's telling me. It's actually infuriating.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:24 GMT
#591
I really don't like Holyflare trying to flush my argument away with made up reasons..
table for two on a tv tray
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 03 2013 13:24 GMT
#592
@oats: Try reading. It helps.

@marv: Because his filter does feel clean. Some parts of it still does. It is not something where I can say "Look here what he wrote. Thats stupid. He is scum." It's more the general direction of his filter or how he makes me feel when reading. And I feel like he is trying to portray something that isn't
I pointed out here again:
On October 03 2013 17:06 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't think he is a good lynch if that's what you are asking...

There are something about him. He posts the way I would If I was scum. Openly and making cases without really following through with anything. Like this post Link. It is a good constructed post and actually have some good points, but where is the punch at the end. What is he trying to do beside having thread presence? So, yeah it is still somewhat feel based...

Thats what it is...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 03 2013 13:26 GMT
#593
I did read it.
I do not follow.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 13:27 GMT
#594
##Vote: slOosh

That's where I'm at right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:29 GMT
#595
On October 03 2013 22:24 Dirkzor wrote:
@oats: Try reading. It helps.

@marv: Because his filter does feel clean. Some parts of it still does. It is not something where I can say "Look here what he wrote. Thats stupid. He is scum." It's more the general direction of his filter or how he makes me feel when reading. And I feel like he is trying to portray something that isn't
I pointed out here again:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 17:06 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't think he is a good lynch if that's what you are asking...

There are something about him. He posts the way I would If I was scum. Openly and making cases without really following through with anything. Like this post Link. It is a good constructed post and actually have some good points, but where is the punch at the end. What is he trying to do beside having thread presence? So, yeah it is still somewhat feel based...

Thats what it is...

Wait what? Are you saying Holyflare is scum but he is not the best lynch today? Why?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 03 2013 13:29 GMT
#596
##unvote
##vote sloosh
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:30 GMT
#597
EBWOP: nvm, i misread..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 13:31 GMT
#598
Dirkzor what do you make of HF's big post and his contributions after that?
table for two on a tv tray
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 03 2013 13:36 GMT
#599
I'm at his big post now. I was trying to skim to catch up but missed a lot. So I slowed down and It might take a while....
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 13:39 GMT
#600
On October 03 2013 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Holyflare where did you go?
Why do you feel like i am talking about Oats when i am clearly not?
Also do you think your case on him was good or not?


Was making lunch. Talking about me talking about oats is what I'm implying. If only me, bh, risen and oats were talking at the start of the game and a person says that you are scum no matter what you say then they are stifling the discussion so yes, the points I made make sense and that is why I kept my vote on him further. He later dropped it and pursued other avenues of thought and thus, like I said, i removed my vote on him.
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