Thug Life Mini Mafia

On September 27 2013 04:11 Pandain wrote:
fucking grackaroni

On September 27 2013 05:24 Palmar wrote:
I'm member of one of the mafia teams. I'm requesting one person from the other team PM me, or if that's not allowed, just claim in the thread so we can work together.

On September 27 2013 05:30 Palmar wrote:


Now that would be pushing it dude, I want my team to win.

On September 27 2013 05:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't get what he is talking about when he says he knows stuff about the Noire game. Seems like he is just blowing smoke really which seems more like town WoS.

anyways I see no reason to not vote palmar or grackaroni this phase

On September 27 2013 06:03 Koshi wrote:

Ok cool. You roll the dice ->random.org<-
Who is it?

On September 27 2013 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

This is something more along the lines of something I'd submit to. Something not manipulable.

On September 27 2013 06:09 Koshi wrote:
I got no problem lynching Grack.

On September 27 2013 06:11 Koshi wrote:

I find that argument compelling.
##vote Grackaroni

On September 27 2013 06:19 Koshi wrote:

Tell me what you would do if we say:
1) mafia
2) trolling
3) trolling mafia

On September 27 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote:

VE, I'll explain this to you in simple steps.

Him claiming scum does not make him scum, and is not a good reason to vote for him.

What he's done since is another matter.

Him claiming scum doesn't make him tow, either. The tell is not absolute.

On September 27 2013 06:36 Koshi wrote:

It's more the part that you are not trying to find scum and are just bantering away like a mofo. I made that mistake in GoT. Townies try to find scum. Not do what you are doing.

On September 27 2013 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
we ARE NOT RANDOM LYNCHING

suggesting it does nothing

seriously stfu and find scum

On September 27 2013 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Ok so with the most analytical masterminds in the game we are going to random lynch?
Hilarious.

On September 27 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:




Ok. So not trolling then. Can't even keep story straight 2 hours in the game.

##vote Grackaroni

On September 27 2013 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:

Then why isn't your vote on someone who has opposed your idea out of hand?

On September 27 2013 08:08 Koshi wrote:
So defensive.

On September 27 2013 08:08 yamato77 wrote:

I like how you're putting words in my mouth and assuming town never lynches scum D1. It's because of players like you that townies get lynched.

Anyway, I'm actually off.

On September 27 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure what I'm looking for here, he didn't react at all. What specifically makes you think that we're seeing mafia here rather than townie who is slightly more comfortable reading you by virtue of having just completed a game with you?

On September 27 2013 08:52 Palmar wrote:
Grack could be scum, there is not enough evidence yet though. But he seems eager enough to create it so it's not really a problem.

Hey Grack, read through yamato's posts and tell me if he's scum or town and why.

On September 27 2013 09:00 Palmar wrote:


Oh well, then I guess voting you off for being a jackass is a valid strategy, I can't read you for shit anyway, so why even bother having you in the game?

##Vote Grackaroni

On September 27 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:

What I find interesting about this post is that you're only interested in discrediting him when he literally says "there's not enough evidence yet". I find this reaction to be suspicious.

On September 27 2013 08:59 Palmar wrote:


This is like the third time you point to something in your behavior is inconsistent with being mafia and therefore you cannot possibly be mafia.

On September 27 2013 06:36 Koshi wrote:

It's more the part that you are not trying to find scum and are just bantering away like a mofo. I made that mistake in GoT. Townies try to find scum. Not do what you are doing.

On September 27 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:




Ok. So not trolling then. Can't even keep story straight 2 hours in the game.

##vote Grackaroni

On September 27 2013 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh another thing I neglected to mention about Grack:

This was his reaction to my first post.
A lot less thought put into what essentially amounts to an 'easy' read with no real stance taken. Similar to VE's, yet different.

VE chose to actually try to read me and my actions while Grack simply looked into the last post I made in a thread he was reading that seems to corroborate what isn't even a read.
I don't know, call it a gut thing but even though I don't necessarily like either's reaction to my post, I like Grack's a LOT less.

On September 27 2013 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

Hmm I think I this went differently in my head. I suppose it wasn't exactly a lie, no, and you have been pushing for the RNG since. I'm not sure why you bothered explaining that you were trolling about Palmar, but whatever. Why did you explain the reasoning for your shot on me last game?

Alright, give me a read now.

On September 27 2013 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man I keep picking on Grack but all I remember is hating his posting as I was catching up:

This is just flat out wrong. You have no what faction pushed CR's lynch in Noire, and therefore you cannot be sure that's what scum will do.
I was basically pushing FT's lynch (since I didn't want CR lynched) in Noire D1 but I flipped town. Most of the time, D1 lynches are an absolute crapshoot, and/or between two townies so scum can just rest on their laurels.

On September 27 2013 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:

One weird thing I picked up on, you attempt to shit on my post and nitpick without commenting on the meat of it.

On September 27 2013 13:07 WaveofShadow wrote:

Everyone?
I count Palmar and me. I also haven't called you scum.
I'm surprised you didn't pick that out as well.

On September 27 2013 13:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
My best read?
What did I read you as, Grack?

On September 27 2013 15:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Ok, my first impressions are that Yamato, WoS, and VE look super town. Grack is probably scum. His posting is terrible.

I've never played a legit game with BH or Palmar, so I can't read them yet.

On September 27 2013 15:38 FirmTofu wrote:

We've already discussed you quite enough. There are at least 5 other scummers out there. I'm interested in discussing as many people as possible. I'll discuss you if you end up being the #1 or #2 candidate later in the day.

On September 27 2013 15:43 VisceraEyes wrote:

So how about you explain your vote? Clearly you aren't adding to the discussion by just voting and leaving...you've given more reasoning for thinking Grack is scum and you're not even voting him!

On September 27 2013 15:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm on a tablet so he gave reasoning while I was meshing my fingers against glass...but like BH I'm not impressed with his reasoning. Any number of players in the game aren't playing to their potential.

Unlike Grack and BH however, I don't take it as a scumclaim. I take it as a bad-tell which is null.

On September 27 2013 16:14 VisceraEyes wrote:

Why RoL and not one of the Otho as-yet-to-post players?

On September 27 2013 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:

He posted like 4 posts about someone that both me and VE think dont really make that dude scum.

How is that BH being normal?
Like he hasnt even been attacking people for the right things

On September 27 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:

I kinda do need to understand how you formulate reads to know if you are town or scum.
For example, I think that your current reads on me and VE are not very well substantiated and you are avoiding giving Palmar a town read for no good reason.

On September 27 2013 23:24 Palmar wrote:


Why would he want to do that if he thinks you're "probably scum".

That makes absolutely no sense.

On September 27 2013 23:49 Palmar wrote:


I wouldn't know, never played with the guy. Maybe he's just bad. Doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it when he does stupid or strange things.

On September 27 2013 23:59 Palmar wrote:


No it shouldn't. I'm not trying to kill him yet.

When I'm trying to kill someone the whole thread knows.

On September 28 2013 00:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT getting the pity vote.
Or not the vote because of pity.

On September 28 2013 00:32 Koshi wrote:

How is this not the exact same thing. And what do you mean with "still don't agree". Did we disagree about FT before?

On September 28 2013 01:52 Koshi wrote:
Like you don't even try to talk with WoS why he thinks I am town.

On September 28 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:

So... many... things... wrong... here...

But for starters. Who is useless? And don't say inactives. Because they won't prevent me of being lynched nor be lynched themselves so?

On September 28 2013 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Grack explain why my points against Yamato aren't good please. You've called me useless based on it, and I feel like I've been among the least useless so far in the game so I'd really like you to qualify that statement.

On September 28 2013 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's why you should vote for WoS.

On September 28 2013 02:39 Blazinghand wrote:
19854944 mod 19 = 1. RANDOM LYNCH IS ON KOSHI.

now you guys can stop complaining about there being no RNG.

seriously though vote FT.

On September 28 2013 02:52 WaveofShadow wrote:

I will gladly vote Koshi for RNG but there's no real point in doing so since everyone else who supported it has since given up.

As for my above post, haters gonna hate. Rayn givin' me them scumfeels. Bring on the votes though, I can take it, I promise.

On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.

On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

On September 28 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:


? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later

On September 28 2013 03:14 VayneAuthority wrote:


This post only cements my read on you as scum, you did the same thing in golden sun. Went out of your way to call people out on "bad reasoning" constantly. really nothing left to say to you

On September 28 2013 03:17 VayneAuthority wrote:


It's more the fact that you have to go out of your way to do an ad hom attack. Instead of just explaining why it's bad reasoning you go into douchy loser mode which is what scum is forced to resort to.

On September 28 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote:

Yup

On September 28 2013 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like it's really REALLY hard for me to not take this as a scumslip. LMAO

On September 28 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:

You are fucking bad. You get voted for fucking trolling and doing shit all in your first 40 posts by 4 people. You vote me because my case on you is forced? Roflllllllllll. Would be easier to stop trolling and give reads in this game but you are just too bad. And the. rng rapes me in the ass and all the baddies jump on me.

On September 28 2013 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hrmmmmm....

BH/Koshi/maaaaybe SnB.

Yamato/Grack/maaaaaybe hiro protagonist.

My maybes are thrown in there mostly because we're missing half the playerbase still...I don't feel strongly about SnB or hiro.

On September 28 2013 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

Man scumteam A is definitely better than scumteam B.

On September 28 2013 11:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why am I on none of these scumteams? I feel so left out!

Fun fact: if i were the sole member left of my team, i would be forced to bus myself. In other news, home in 1hr to do things in thread.

On September 27 2013 16:12 Grackaroni wrote:
What's the ruling on how much time we have to wait until we can vote RoL for being a lurking scum? Is it soon?

On September 27 2013 16:15 Grackaroni wrote:

Because he's RoL. I feel his scumminess in my bones.

On September 28 2013 23:27 Koshi wrote:
By doing almost nothing. That says enough about you people.
Also he is voting his scumbuddy from last game. No1 pays any attention to that though.

On September 27 2013 06:36 Koshi wrote:

It's more the part that you are not trying to find scum and are just bantering away like a mofo. I made that mistake in GoT. Townies try to find scum. Not do what you are doing.

On September 27 2013 06:38 Koshi wrote:

I asked him a question. He answered with #yolo-iamdoingnothingjustaskingquestionsyay

On September 27 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:




Ok. So not trolling then. Can't even keep story straight 2 hours in the game.

##vote Grackaroni

On September 27 2013 08:08 Koshi wrote:
So defensive.

On September 27 2013 21:41 Koshi wrote:

But he includes somebody else. His first posts also look way too hard as the start in Golden Sun. Why would you even do that as town? Wouldn't it be smart to avoid confusing like that? As town you think about it and decide against it because it is silly. As scum you are probably thinking about WIFOM and shit and never consider it is bad for town.

On September 28 2013 00:32 Koshi wrote:

How is this not the exact same thing. And what do you mean with "still don't agree". Did we disagree about FT before?

On September 28 2013 01:52 Koshi wrote:



You are hilarious & scum.

On September 28 2013 07:25 Koshi wrote:
And then there this grack kid. So very likely scum. Scumbuddies all over me.
The kid has done nothing except call me scum for not posting enough. Rofl. WoS gives townread on me and Grack doesnt even care why. I give exact same analysis on FT and Grack didnt notice this from his only scumread.

Ah well. This rng shit is so bad. But w.e.

On September 27 2013 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rayn, your opinion on Grack?

On September 27 2013 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I dunno yet, leaning town.


Interesting, should we lynch you?

On September 29 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
I didnt read that wall of text Grack, so WHY SHOULD I?

On September 29 2013 00:03 Koshi wrote:
There are some good things in it like not asking rayn why you are.town. I shoulsld improve that. Rest is garbage.

On September 29 2013 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

There's nothing in there that Koshi can even really speak to - and why is it mostly for Koshi are you trying to CONVINCE him that he's scum? What if he's not? What's the point?

On September 29 2013 01:31 Koshi wrote:
Is this really happening?

On September 29 2013 02:48 Blazinghand wrote:
ok rayne im done with you. time to bury you.

If I am scum I would shoot rayh 100 percent tonight. I always shoot loud players who oppose me.

I know I am town therefore there is at least one scum team that doesn't have rayne on it. I'm talking to you guys. please shoot rayne tonight. he's annoying me and im tired of reading his posts. it will make me look bad when he gets nked potentially netting you guys a mislynch. consider it!

On September 29 2013 03:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Grack, I've explained other reasons as to why I believe Koshi is town. I forget, have you addressed those?

On September 29 2013 04:21 Koshi wrote:
Another reason why this random lynch is supergood for scum. 3/19 own team, 2/19 hits a cop. Look at is. Its perfect play for.scum. I am certain one of the fucking random lynch people before the thing was a thing knew this and promoted it. Please let me know endgame if you remember this questikn.

On September 29 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'd like a VA lynch or even FT better but I'm not going to push my own scumreads this late in the day.
The only reason I'm not yoloswag on board from the start is because I don't have as concrete a scumread on yamato as some people do. It's made worse by the fact that he's not exactly here to defend himself (though of course I admit that a scum yamato who doesn't give a shit would fit this pretty well).

On September 29 2013 04:31 WaveofShadow wrote:

Um....what do you agree with exactly?

On September 29 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote:

Except what has he actually done?
Can you show me?

On September 29 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not vesting either.

On September 29 2013 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi put on the imba vest, Grack is gonna shoot you!

On September 29 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Seriously though scum, shoot rayne. I bet he won't even use his vest tonight. It'll make me look bad because I want him dead! YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. It'll be hilarious! Plus, you like me, right? Or maybe you hate me and want me to get lynched. Either way, shooting rayne is the right move tonight. I'm just saying: consider it.

btw scummy looking townies don't use your vest tonight in case the cops cocaine you.

"oh no bh is coaching here" stuff it it's important to say that

On September 27 2013 08:59 Palmar wrote:


This is like the third time you point to something in your behavior is inconsistent with being mafia and therefore you cannot possibly be mafia.

On September 27 2013 09:35 Palmar wrote:
I didn't say you were defending you, I was just pointing out a pattern, the context is irrelevant.

On September 27 2013 18:42 Palmar wrote:
More patterns!















My favorite part is that he repeatedly asks people to give out reads and opinions, but doesn't provide any himself. I think the only read he's given so far is a "null" read on me, with absolutely no meat on it, just a "Palmar is hard to read". No attempt at analysis or anything.

Not sure if this makes him scum though tbh, Hiro is notoriously timid even as town, at least he was when I last played with him, but this doesn't look good.

Must evaluate.

On September 27 2013 20:39 Palmar wrote:
I like Blazinghand's big post on FT, but also want to add my own perspective.



This exchange is very, very interesting.

First off, take note that everything FirmTofu has done in this game was done in a span of half an hour, ie: in a single session. This is important because he intentionally drifts away from his conclusion that can be seen in the posts above.

He seems quite certain Grack is scum, albeit with little reasoning. But his logic is completely off. If he thinks the chance of Grack flipping scum is so high, why doesn't he pile on? After all, trying to scumhunt the entire team on day 1 is completely retarded, you find scum, and you run with it.



Additionally, ShiaoPi is 100% not the only person that falls into this category. I don't particularly mind the ShiaoPi vote at this point, but note again the timing is important. Less than 20 minutes after calling Grack probable scum, FT is voting for someone else with equally awful reasons.

Again, I don't mind voting ShiaoPi, but WHY does FT vote him over Grack? That's the important question here. Nothing in FT's posts explains his choice to do so, there is no logical reason for him, from the information he presents us with, to go after SP over FT, yet he does it.

Also, I don't give a shit about you going to bed or reading other games FT, stop with the excuses.

On September 27 2013 23:49 Palmar wrote:


I wouldn't know, never played with the guy. Maybe he's just bad. Doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it when he does stupid or strange things.

On September 27 2013 23:59 Palmar wrote:


No it shouldn't. I'm not trying to kill him yet.

When I'm trying to kill someone the whole thread knows.

On September 30 2013 01:17 Koshi wrote:
So Grack. Is Palmar still scum?

On September 30 2013 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

Who says this about a scumread?

On September 30 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:

Thats not the point. Its hard for me to explain. But its really odd.

On September 30 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:

Not that you dumbass.

On September 30 2013 01:45 Koshi wrote:
Oats mean that it is logical that a scum knows who is town. So nobody is going to say: "oh shit this guy that I think is scum is really good at figuring out who is town."

Grack means: "The reasoning for Palmar his townreads is pretty consistent with why I think these guys are town. Maybe Palmar does give a shit and has been reading the thread. My only point that he is scum might be shattered."



Both of you can thank me later by never voting for me again. ever. this means as long as you are alive. ever.

On September 30 2013 01:49 Koshi wrote:

Wh0t you t0lking ab00t? Isn't that why you said his townreads were good?

On September 30 2013 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:


it's possible you are being sarcastic here but palmar is actually a pretty good player

On September 30 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
I find myself in a catch 22 where if I contribute people will think I'm scum and if I don't contribute I am a good "policy lynch"

I wonder why towns are doing poorly lately...

On September 30 2013 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:


I don't know his playstyle but if you were quoting me for example, that wouldn't be scummy because I do not push lynches, in Palmar's case I don't know if that is true or not.

Your case depends a lot on the personality of a player and I'm not a fan of those, hence why I would not vote for yamato. If on the other hand hiro or FT flip scum at some point, then yes Palmar should be heavily scrutinized.

It's really just a null case dude. Nothing to be seen there unless you can cross analyze it with Palmar relentlessly pushing people in his town games.

On September 30 2013 02:31 Pandain wrote:
Hey grack you seem pretty active, give me a summary of where we are now?

On September 30 2013 02:43 strongandbig wrote:
Ok I sti think palmar is scum, my case still stands. Fracks case contributes additional evidence to my argument that palmar is putting a lot of energy into "pattern finding" but doesn't ever use it to actually find scum. It seems like no one really disagrees, and palmar hasn't really been arguing with me directly.

That said, grack also has a pretty good chance of being scum. There's his reasoning around voting koshi, which really strikes me as trying to push the koshi lynch without being connected to the random lynch itself in case it goes belly up. If he's telling the truth about his koshi read, he's spent a lot more of the thread talking about why koshi is scum than Yamato. He has much more well developed read on koshi than on Yamato, and yet once Yamato is leading on votes he doesn't try to persuade people, he just pops over to Yamato with a lol. Like, his most recent post about yamato before voting him was

On September 27 2013 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:

don't fight the random lynch. Ease into it and we'll all be happier!



Lots of analysis comes from random lynches. The lynch doesn't just fall into place when somebody is RNG'd what happens when a person is randomly selected. how will people react. will people flip-flop or will they go through with their vote. Could lead to one of the most informative days 1s ever.

On September 30 2013 02:45 strongandbig wrote:

What hanged your mind on koshi? Your last post about him was basically "shit koshi is town"

On September 30 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:

Tell me why Hiro is a better kill than FT.

On September 29 2013 08:55 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah using vest N1 is like literally a terrible idea

On September 30 2013 06:12 Koshi wrote:

FYI I hold grudges against scummers that try to buddy me.
We cool for now though. We cool.

On September 30 2013 06:15 Pandain wrote:
Grack what do you think about FT? I know you've been afk for most of the thread, but what are your current thoughts?

On September 30 2013 06:19 Pandain wrote:
Speaking of which, explain these comments:


Justification?

Why? I've done this in my previous games. Has FT?


I think if FT becomes scum it will be an interesting analysis of Grackaroni.

On September 30 2013 06:26 Pandain wrote:

Can't comment!

On September 30 2013 06:28 Pandain wrote:

Did it in Noir! Take that as you will.

Who do you want to lynch today?

On September 30 2013 06:32 Pandain wrote:


Why would you post this, Grack?

What did you hope to accomplish?

On September 30 2013 06:41 Pandain wrote:
Grack why didn't you push for Palmar? Why did you do more analysis after voting for him? When you and Rayn both voted, why didn't you contribute like you always do to convince other's he's scum.

On September 30 2013 06:44 Pandain wrote:
In conclusion I also think your targeting of Koshi was weak and an attempt to justify your vote when in reality it could just be for RNG, and you're actions are inconsistant with what you actually believe in. I also think you did horrible defending yourself just now which means you don't have a clear mindset which indicates scum.

However I still want to lynch FT.

On September 30 2013 06:48 Pandain wrote:

What? Does that matter? This is like a scum response using others as a benchmark in determining how scummy you are.

Also wtf please explain voting mentality so I can understand why you would vote someone who you don't think is scum.

On September 30 2013 06:50 Koshi wrote:
Grack when did you know you weren't going to get lynched?

On September 30 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
One last thing.

Explain the palmar vote more for me. Was it a pressure, policy, or scum vote

On September 30 2013 07:06 Pandain wrote:
More detail

On September 30 2013 06:48 Grackaroni wrote:

But do keep it coming. Where are my actions inconsistent with my beliefs and what is wrong with my defense.

On September 30 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:

This screams of horseshit btw.
Just tell the truth. Lying as town sucks.

On September 30 2013 07:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

Ok now we gettin' somewhere.
Why did you feel the need to lie?
And what do you think annoying Palmar would get you?

On September 30 2013 07:19 Pandain wrote:
I think his responses are fine for the moment. He's not more scummy then FT.

Grack have you just been defending yourself or also reading into our alignments and if so what do you think.

On September 30 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:


and who in the thread currently would use lethal force on a person that can be very useful as town when you can just precision shot him?

On September 30 2013 08:00 Chairman Ray wrote:


I am pretty caught up with the thread.

The reason I switched from Koshi to Yamato was because at the time, Koshi was leading by a large margin. I swapped my vote so make the votes a lot closer. This would give others the opportunity to swap or people who voted a useless vote to all make a difference. I feel that later on if we figure out that Koshi is scum, then I will focus on looking at the people who swapped after me, and try to get reads on them.

On September 30 2013 08:28 Pandain wrote:


Didn't actually read it.

On September 30 2013 18:44 Palmar wrote:


This is, as you probably know, a change of heart from day 1, where you were the number one guy trying to shut down cases on FT.

I understand your original defense was simply "Well I expect him to be bad because he's always bad". I'm just getting a clarification, do you still put no value in the points made by me or even bh back on day one, and is your sole reason for changing your mind the fact that he "hasn't done anything town-like".

On September 30 2013 21:20 Palmar wrote:


Is that a question?

On September 30 2013 21:40 Palmar wrote:


Pandain was on my scumteam but I fired him for aids and bads.

(see personality mafia, I have a reason to think pandain is awful as scum).

On September 30 2013 21:46 Palmar wrote:
Anyway, I can convince you I'm town later.

Can you give me your top 8 townreads?

On October 01 2013 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:

I don't understand this point on Palmar. How do you mean "poor scum hunting"? Poor as in not making sense? Poor as in he's been wrong? Please clarify your point, so that we can further discuss your suspicion of him, because presently I'm town on Palmar.