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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
S&B just makes a lot of good posts and has been carefully reading the thread. Aside from his posts on you I think he even brought up a decent point about my inconsistency with the random lynch. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:09 Grackaroni wrote: CR is mostly just a gut read. I could be mistaken there. S&B just makes a lot of good posts and has been carefully reading the thread. Aside from his posts on you I think he even brought up a decent point about my inconsistency with the random lynch. CR I agree with btw, I hadn't paid any attention to him so I just read through his filter, no reason to think he's scum based on what he's posted so far. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:10 Grackaroni wrote: S0lstice posted in here earlier as replacement I believe so RoL is out didn't notice, thanks | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
In fact if the hosts could just modkill everyone but me that'd be grand. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:17 Palmar wrote: Modkilling him would've been better though, sparing me the trouble of dealing with it. In fact if the hosts could just modkill everyone but me that'd be grand. Why not join 1 person mafia games? You win as either alignment. always. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:36 Oatsmaster wrote: who are you gonna vote for Palmar? I'm already voting for FT | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On September 30 2013 22:43 Koshi wrote: Why not join 1 person mafia games? You win as either alignment. always. Who am I supposed to call dumb then? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Nothing has changed to persuade me that palmar isn't our best lynch. I don't agree with bh's townread on him - anyone can point things out, and I don't get the same "town feeling" from palmar's later posts that bh did. Second point. Between shiaopi and firmtofu I would much rather lynch shiaopi. 1. My personal experience is that shiaopi has done much more in past games to show he can contribute as town. This makes his lack of contribution this game scummier than tofu's. people who host games tend to care more about mafia than people who don't, in general. 2. The way shiaopi joined the koshi lynch. Like I said a while ago, I find this actively scummy. No indication prior to the vote that koshi is a scum read. First one to join the randomly generated lynch train, but distances himself from the whole idea of the random lynch, then doesn't talk about it again. Also this post: On September 29 2013 04:46 ShiaoPi wrote: I must admit I am fine with yamato getting lynched instead of koshi, so I am just sitting here playing dota When was Yamato his scumread? Why? I see him "in favor of" a Yamato lynch but I see no reasons and no thought process - nothing that can distinguish it from just voting with town sentiment. Tofu, on the other hand, I just see as a mega lurker. He voted koshi for te random lynch and owned up to that, which I find to be a townie action. That said, he did say On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote: Anyone who supports RNG, myself included, should still scumhunt and make full use of the day. There is still much to say and much to find. Anyone who stops scumhunting should be subject to lynch as well. And then not do it. But I find shiaopi much more likely to flip scum. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:30 strongandbig wrote: Okay first question. Grack why aren't you voting palmar. I thought you were with me on that. You talked a lot more about him than about the other people you're voting for. Nothing has changed to persuade me that palmar isn't our best lynch. I don't agree with bh's townread on him - anyone can point things out, and I don't get the same "town feeling" from palmar's later posts that bh did. Second point. Between shiaopi and firmtofu I would much rather lynch shiaopi. 1. My personal experience is that shiaopi has done much more in past games to show he can contribute as town. This makes his lack of contribution this game scummier than tofu's. people who host games tend to care more about mafia than people who don't, in general. 2. The way shiaopi joined the koshi lynch. Like I said a while ago, I find this actively scummy. No indication prior to the vote that koshi is a scum read. First one to join the randomly generated lynch train, but distances himself from the whole idea of the random lynch, then doesn't talk about it again. Also this post: When was Yamato his scumread? Why? I see him "in favor of" a Yamato lynch but I see no reasons and no thought process - nothing that can distinguish it from just voting with town sentiment. Tofu, on the other hand, I just see as a mega lurker. He voted koshi for te random lynch and owned up to that, which I find to be a townie action. That said, he did say And then not do it. But I find shiaopi much more likely to flip scum. So you say you'd rather vote SP over FT---but your second reason essentially puts them equally scummy, and your first reason is useless. Shiao is capable of playing any way he'd like. In LXI he lurked and shitposted and was scum. In I Swear This Is Normal, he was super mega protown, posted a lot and 'scumhunted,' and was scum. I feel like I played another game with him as well where he was actually town as well but i forget. in conclusion, your reasons for voting SP over FT are shit---SP could still be scum but you're not going to catch him on weak meta. Vote FT because it's a surer lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:38 WaveofShadow wrote: So you say you'd rather vote SP over FT---but your second reason essentially puts them equally scummy, and your first reason is useless. Shiao is capable of playing any way he'd like. In LXI he lurked and shitposted and was scum. In I Swear This Is Normal, he was super mega protown, posted a lot and 'scumhunted,' and was scum. I feel like I played another game with him as well where he was actually town as well but i forget. in conclusion, your reasons for voting SP over FT are shit---SP could still be scum but you're not going to catch him on weak meta. Vote FT because it's a surer lynch. 1. Okay so he can play well as scum if he wants to. Do you have evidence that he can play like this as town? If not, you've said nothing that relates to my argument. Plus, one example is not enough to convince me. I'm talking about what I generally expect as town out of shiaopi vs what I expect as town out of firmtofu. 2. How does my second reason put them equally scummy? Shiaopi pushed koshi's wagon after the rng selection while trying to avoid responsibility for the random lynch if koshi flipped town. Ft was honest and owned up to what he was doing. Those are in no way equivalent. 3. Shiaopi's Yamato switch was also scummy. 4. What reasoning could you possibly have for why firmtofu is a surer lynch than shiaopi? Please explain. They are both equally lurky but there are plenty of reasons why shiaopi's filter is worse. 5. Why so aggro bro? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
2) I consider the reasoning you laid out making them equally scummy even though the reasoning is different. FT hasn't done shit even though he himself said that's what people should be doing after agreeing to RNG. Just because he owns up to it doesn't mean he actually followed through. 3) Agreed. 4) I made a case ages ago, plenty of other people have as well, including the confirmed town BH. On top of that I have significant reason to believe his activity this game is particularly indicative of him being scum considering his activity level in Noire in which he narrowly avoided a lynch and due to the threat was seemingly actually forced to post. (not indicative of his alignment in that game specifically, but it just shows when threatened by lynching he will be active----he is not active in this thread because he doesn't feel threatened.) 5) Cause this thread is dead and I'm fucking bored and want my preferred lynch to go through. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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