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On September 30 2013 01:45 Koshi wrote:
Oats mean that it is logical that a scum knows who is town. So nobody is going to say: "oh shit this guy that I think is scum is really good at figuring out who is town."
Grack means: "The reasoning for Palmar his townreads is pretty consistent with why I think these guys are town. Maybe Palmar does give a shit and has been reading the thread. My only point that he is scum might be shattered."
Both of you can thank me later by never voting for me again. ever. this means as long as you are alive. ever.
Yeah you're right. Palmar is way too much of a dumbass to be able to come up with town reads as scum. You have correctly identified my thought process and my alignment.
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On September 30 2013 01:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 01:48 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 01:45 Koshi wrote:
Oats mean that it is logical that a scum knows who is town. So nobody is going to say: "oh shit this guy that I think is scum is really good at figuring out who is town."
Grack means: "The reasoning for Palmar his townreads is pretty consistent with why I think these guys are town. Maybe Palmar does give a shit and has been reading the thread. My only point that he is scum might be shattered."
Both of you can thank me later by never voting for me again. ever. this means as long as you are alive. ever. Yeah you're right. Palmar is way too much of a dumbass to be able to come up with town reads as scum. You have correctly identified my thought process and my alignment. Wh0t you t0lking ab00t? Isn't that why you said his townreads were good?
I wasn't saying anything at all about why his town reads were good. I saw his list post and moved around reads as I saw fit.
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On September 30 2013 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 01:48 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 01:45 Koshi wrote:
Oats mean that it is logical that a scum knows who is town. So nobody is going to say: "oh shit this guy that I think is scum is really good at figuring out who is town."
Grack means: "The reasoning for Palmar his townreads is pretty consistent with why I think these guys are town. Maybe Palmar does give a shit and has been reading the thread. My only point that he is scum might be shattered."
Both of you can thank me later by never voting for me again. ever. this means as long as you are alive. ever. Yeah you're right. Palmar is way too much of a dumbass to be able to come up with town reads as scum. You have correctly identified my thought process and my alignment. it's possible you are being sarcastic here but palmar is actually a pretty good player
I am being sarcastic because Koshi was implying that Palmar giving out reasonable town reads should make Palmar town.
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As if he is incapable of seeing which players are likely town as scum.
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On September 30 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
I find myself in a catch 22 where if I contribute people will think I'm scum and if I don't contribute I am a good "policy lynch"
I wonder why towns are doing poorly lately...
that's just WoS. I will be judging you based on how intelligent I think your posts are 
Comment on my case. Good/bad/total shit from obvious scum on Koshi's scum team.
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On September 30 2013 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 02:14 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
I find myself in a catch 22 where if I contribute people will think I'm scum and if I don't contribute I am a good "policy lynch"
I wonder why towns are doing poorly lately... that's just WoS. I will be judging you based on how intelligent I think your posts are Comment on my case. Good/bad/total shit from obvious scum on Koshi's scum team. I don't know his playstyle but if you were quoting me for example, that wouldn't be scummy because I do not push lynches, in Palmar's case I don't know if that is true or not. Your case depends a lot on the personality of a player and I'm not a fan of those, hence why I would not vote for yamato. If on the other hand hiro or FT flip scum at some point, then yes Palmar should be heavily scrutinized. It's really just a null case dude. Nothing to be seen there unless you can cross analyze it with Palmar relentlessly pushing people in his town games.
You think that if those people flip scum Palmar is scum because he is trying to soft-bus them and push for them without actually getting them lynched like me /w BH correct?
I think he is more likely scum if they are town. I think he is scum because rather than looking for scum he is looking for people doing strange things to attack when he can't even explain why the things FT/Hiro/Me do make us more likely scum. He's uninterested and it shows. He normally chooses the day1 lynch and the best he's done so far is prove that FT is an illogical player for choosing to vote SP over me because there was a lot of people discussing me.
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On September 30 2013 02:31 Pandain wrote:
Hey grack you seem pretty active, give me a summary of where we are now?
We are in the night phase
Not really sure where we are at right now. I think the day 1 lynch was likely between 2 townies so it's hard to get much information from it. You can read what I think of Palmar; Mr. CC would also be an useful filter to analyze because I haven't gotten a good feel from him and he has not been discussed at all.
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On September 30 2013 02:43 strongandbig wrote:Ok I sti think palmar is scum, my case still stands. Fracks case contributes additional evidence to my argument that palmar is putting a lot of energy into "pattern finding" but doesn't ever use it to actually find scum. It seems like no one really disagrees, and palmar hasn't really been arguing with me directly. That said, grack also has a pretty good chance of being scum. There's his reasoning around voting koshi, which really strikes me as trying to push the koshi lynch without being connected to the random lynch itself in case it goes belly up. If he's telling the truth about his koshi read, he's spent a lot more of the thread talking about why koshi is scum than Yamato. He has much more well developed read on koshi than on Yamato, and yet once Yamato is leading on votes he doesn't try to persuade people, he just pops over to Yamato with a lol. Like, his most recent post about yamato before voting him was Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 07:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Quit reaching. I was going to switch regardless because Yamato came back and started doing things.
Koshi posted some reads right before my switch which scum don't normally do and my case wasn't that strong to begin with, Koshi's case on me was weak and he was really sticking to it but it was entirely possible he was just having a bad day1. If you want to look for a random vote it's when I voted Palmar when Rayn told me to just for the fun of it.
My idea for random lynch is probably worse than an actual random lynch. My plan was always to have someone randomly selected and have extra pressure on that person rather than the usual inexperienced player that attracts all the attention and judge things from there.
On September 27 2013 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
we ARE NOT RANDOM LYNCHING
suggesting it does nothing
seriously stfu and find scum don't fight the random lynch. Ease into it and we'll all be happier! Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Ok so with the most analytical masterminds in the game we are going to random lynch?
Hilarious. Lots of analysis comes from random lynches. The lynch doesn't just fall into place when somebody is RNG'd what happens when a person is randomly selected. how will people react. will people flip-flop or will they go through with their vote. Could lead to one of the most informative days 1s ever.
Probably a dumb idea but I couldn't just come out and say: "Hey I want to random lynch but I might actually not vote for the person being random lynched"
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On September 30 2013 02:45 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 02:31 Pandain wrote:
Hey grack you seem pretty active, give me a summary of where we are now? We are in the night phase Not really sure where we are at right now. I think the day 1 lynch was likely between 2 townies so it's hard to get much information from it. You can read what I think of Palmar; Mr. CC would also be an useful filter to analyze because I haven't gotten a good feel from him and he has not been discussed at all. What hanged your mind on koshi? Your last post about him was basically "shit koshi is town"
That was from the flip-flop on his firm scum read on me and saying he would provide real reads. Which is just admitting that he wrote out some not very well thought out reads at the last second to avoid the lynch, and I think scum would not want to admit this and stick to what they posted.
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You do admit day 1 is your best day though. When was the last time you just failed to find anyone you thought was likely mafia while actively posting.
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Hiro posting 1 team actually probably is a scum slip.
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So Vayne, you want to kill Hiro?
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On September 30 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 05:37 Grackaroni wrote:
So Vayne, you want to kill Hiro? Tell me why Hiro is a better kill than FT.
It's not much better. The scum slip is something though.
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On September 29 2013 08:55 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah using vest N1 is like literally a terrible idea
scrub.
FT said earlier in his filter that Random lynch was statistically the best way to catch scum.
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On September 30 2013 06:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 06:09 Pandain wrote:On September 30 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Nha SP needs to be the second wagon. He doesn't deserve not being a wagon.
I'll think about the 6 scummers later. I will agree only because he does need to contribute more! Pandain Koshi scumteam, off! FYI I hold grudges against scummers that try to buddy me. We cool for now though. We cool.
LOL... interesting development.
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On September 30 2013 06:15 Pandain wrote:
Grack what do you think about FT? I know you've been afk for most of the thread, but what are your current thoughts?
Your case is wrong about his lack of a stance on RNG and I've already said what I wanted to say about the vote but he's been completely useless after saying he wanted to pressure as much scum as possible and hasn't done anything town-like so I guess I'm up for lynching him
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On September 30 2013 06:19 Pandain wrote:Speaking of which, explain these comments: Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I could definitely see firm tofu as town say I think you're scum but I want to pressure someone else I think is scum. Justification? Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:On September 28 2013 00:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT getting the pity vote.
Or not the vote because of pity. It's not even that. I think if Pandain was the person doing that it would be suspicious. I think FirmTofu could legitimately have been trying to push along the discussion. Why? I've done this in my previous games. Has FT? I think if FT becomes scum it will be an interesting analysis of Grackaroni.
Were you scum in the previous games you did this?
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On September 30 2013 06:26 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 06:23 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 06:19 Pandain wrote:Speaking of which, explain these comments: On September 27 2013 23:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I could definitely see firm tofu as town say I think you're scum but I want to pressure someone else I think is scum. Justification? On September 28 2013 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:On September 28 2013 00:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT getting the pity vote.
Or not the vote because of pity. It's not even that. I think if Pandain was the person doing that it would be suspicious. I think FirmTofu could legitimately have been trying to push along the discussion. Why? I've done this in my previous games. Has FT? I think if FT becomes scum it will be an interesting analysis of Grackaroni. Were you scum in the previous games you did this? Can't comment!
haha so you did it in Noir or you just don't want to?
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On September 30 2013 06:28 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 06:27 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 06:26 Pandain wrote:On September 30 2013 06:23 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 06:19 Pandain wrote:Speaking of which, explain these comments: On September 27 2013 23:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I could definitely see firm tofu as town say I think you're scum but I want to pressure someone else I think is scum. Justification? On September 28 2013 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:On September 28 2013 00:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT getting the pity vote.
Or not the vote because of pity. It's not even that. I think if Pandain was the person doing that it would be suspicious. I think FirmTofu could legitimately have been trying to push along the discussion. Why? I've done this in my previous games. Has FT? I think if FT becomes scum it will be an interesting analysis of Grackaroni. Were you scum in the previous games you did this? Can't comment! haha so you did it in Noir or you just don't want to? Did it in Noir! Take that as you will. Who do you want to lynch today?
Don't know yet. Maybe Hiro, maybe Palmar. maybe I'll even vote FT. A lot can happen in the course of a day!
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